TEAM TALK: THE BIGGEST MARINE INDUSTRY CONSPIRACY EVER!!! (ARE THEY LYING???)

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TEAM TALK: THE BIGGEST MARINE INDUSTRY CONSPIRACY EVER!!! (ARE THEY LYING???)
Have they been lying this whole time? What's the deal? Why can boat builders get a near unlimited supply of outboards when us small guys get told over and over by our reps that there just aren't any outboards available! This needs to stop! Let's demand better from our manufacturers or atleast demand the truth! Comment below on if you were upsold into a new rig when all you wanted was to repower.
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@bow-leggedfishing5883 Жыл бұрын

The whole entire USA economy and the covid scam explained by a boat mechanic. I have always loved your red blooded, no bullshit approach keep it coming. I believe this is exactly what happened.

@burneraccount9253 Жыл бұрын

Once again Andy you are only one telling the truth in this industry.

@timroyall6513 Жыл бұрын

You can bet Johnny is getting all the motors he wants, lol. But, I completely agree with you Andy, as usual.

@joelkluewer8578 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for being real Andy, COVID was the easy scapegoat for far to many things, and almost nobody questioned that response

@lightning9279 Жыл бұрын

About a month ago Ford executive stated on video that they are purposely slowing production to keep the price of their vehicles artificially high. Keep supply low to keep demand high. It will be a cold day in hell before I buy a Ford. What you pointed out is happening everywhere. Well spoken Sir.

@georgeadcock2347 Жыл бұрын

Ford went "Woke", too. I'm out

@jmac6242 Жыл бұрын

IMHO... You are on point. America NEEDS MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU! Thank You for ALL YOU DO!

@bradmatz8622 Жыл бұрын

I will say in 2020 I ordered a 2021 alumacraft trophy 185 with Yamaha motors drive and kicker big dealer boat came in with no motors and they couldn't get them I waited 3 months and then got my deposit back on the whole deal kept my old boat then finally bought a 2022 that was on the floor with mercury motors

@Tarponpimp1 Жыл бұрын

Andy you are absolutely correct! I shared this video with a friend of mine who is a mercury dealer and this is what he sent me back. “Mercury rep told me, if you don't get engines 5 guys loose a job. If boat builders don't get engines, 800 people loose their jobs.” You nailed it!

@joemichels4530 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. In my estimation what they did was a sound strategy. If you want to blame people, don't blame the boat motor companies; blame the lockdown fanatics. Lockdowns killed our economy not the bad flu.

@yankeebass1 Жыл бұрын

I agree. Had a buddy who's rebuilt merc 200 died on us during a tournament last spring. He looked into a new 200 Merc to put on his Nitro and could not find anywhere. Finally one dealer said hey we will just pull one off of this pontoon boat we just got in. Got him a new motor and when he picked it up the sales guy said they ordered a motor for there floor model pontoon they took his motor on and it came in that morning. But they couldn't order one for him to replace because they were told 6 months to get one in. the dealer called the pontoon manufacture and they sent them one to replace the motor. funny how that works.

@johnnysaechao6218 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Andy for telling the truth to the bass boat,bass fishing industry! I order an 250 mercury in July 2022 and got it in January 2023 and my dealer told me that usually it’s up to a year.

@bigdadys98x Жыл бұрын

I work for a small marina in upstate ny and can honestly say I’ve been saying the same thing for the last three years . We are selling boats with brand new mercurys on them but yet when a customer comes in to try and buy a simple 9.9 to use as a kicker motor on his salmon rig we can’t get one . I’ve had to convert at least 3 tiller motors we had in boxes to remote for these boats at an additional cost of about $1000 . Preach on Brother you’re right ! If you want o do another video on this subject I’d be happy to fly out to Wisconsin and back you up 100%!

@chaddrumm6809 Жыл бұрын

Team Marine is the shit! You WILL continue to grow this channel! It’s true to the heart man talk about the marine industry. Always look forward to a new vid!

@theislandsc Жыл бұрын

I’m glad I didn’t have to deal with this on the marine diesel side of the industry. Beside ZF transmissions and Cummins dropping the ball everyone else kept up with supply(for the most part).

@johnguardabasso1651 Жыл бұрын

I dealt with this exact problem. You are 100% correct. Like the auto industry the big corporations corn holed us

@deroldmanker465 Жыл бұрын

Good for you Andy, behind you 1000%. These corporations have used the consumer for years upon years. I’m a plain ole working class proud to be so American. These boat companies have priced me out of owning a new boat and good luck getting a new outboard so i can enjoy the sport i love so. Thank you so much for being the voice of the working man.

@jakestetson7770 Жыл бұрын

Just watched your father tribute video a while back. Your father raised a great man. Keep doing you Andy. This industry needs more leaders like you.

@yellowladdermedia9101 Жыл бұрын

Mercer lives in a sugar coated world, he WILL NOT risk having you on!

@MJ_Bass Жыл бұрын

I don’t mind Mercers podcast now and again, but you aren’t wrong. He won’t say anything remotely controversial

@kevincrawford6936 Жыл бұрын

Damn Andy, you definitely hit the nail on the head. Corporate will always make the money but the "real workers" will struggle, especially in times like Covid, Recession, etc. If I lived in your area I'd use your shop as my repair shop for sure! We all look forward to your videos because your the Trump of Boat Service!! Keep making us proud, Sir

@joemichels4530 Жыл бұрын

Blame the people who caused all these problems. The lockdown Nazis. They are the cause. Vote accordingly.

@timanderson4539 Жыл бұрын

Absolute Honesty real with the people no filter 💯 love this guy 👌👊

@krisramos7453 Жыл бұрын

I’m in my early twenties, been fishing out of a 16ft aluminum boat with a 50hp for 4-5 years that I bought for $1500. Got a decent job getting close to the point I wanna do an upgrade and get into something different. But in this market it’s impossible to find something reasonable. Saving money hopefully I can stay stable when everything crashes and buy a nice phoenix from a bank lol.

@joemichels4530 Жыл бұрын

It's not there yet. When you hear about companies laying off the type of people who fish, boat deals will be around a few months later. So far, high-tech, HR, and banker workers are getting the axe. But if you follow the hidden news, people are not buying cars and trucks. That means the workers will soon have their hours cut or sent home. Boat payments will come after food, shelter, and transportation. It's coming; save your money and keep your job!

@phoenixw2w Жыл бұрын

Thanks Andy and Team Marine.

@brentdodrill6242 Жыл бұрын

Your exactly right. We are from Smallville USA. I wish I just didn’t live 12 hours from LaCross. I have a G2 and I’m now think of Suzuki sense I’ve been watching your channel. Please keep up your good work with this channel .

@mrh6201 Жыл бұрын

Ready for the bottom to fall out of these prices. 40k for a 15 year old boats is absolutely insane

@Ds-xi2sq Жыл бұрын

Just like buying a used pick up...JUNK ! and they want a gold fillings out of your teeth !

@loadedhot1034 Жыл бұрын

Prices are staring to come down in the Midwest now.

@marknewton1747 Жыл бұрын

Floor plan is the Key to this. Motor builders teamed with boat builders because they could get their money from dealers. I saw this in the mid to late 80’s. Major boat builders required dealers to take a quantity of boats and huge floor plans payments. Mariner was about the only way that you could get small outboards. Pencil pushes and folks that never wet a hook are what are driving this.

@outdooorob63 Жыл бұрын

Andy you crack me up! You are so right I bought a 2017 SeaArk 2072 VXF with a 2013 Suzuki 115hp motor in 2021 was told I would still have a full warranty cuz the motor had less than 20 hrs so after I took delivery they told me that Suzuki would not be able honor the warranty. It took 5 months and ton of phone calls and emails with the dealer/ manufacturer. I was able to get a new 2022 Suzuki 115 from SeaArk shipped to a really good small dealer near me in Indiana. The dealer said they can't get any Suzuki motors and couldn't believe that I was able to get one. Keep telling it like it is!

@lancemabry6707 Жыл бұрын

You’re the man Andy. Thank you for speaking up for the consumers. WE are the ones buying boatsn motors etc and the big companies are gonna keep pushing until we all quit buying new shit… Oh have you heard anything at all about Evinrude coming back next year??? I’ve read a few comments that they are but I can’t find anything about it. Figured you would know way more than me…

@CamBassMaster Жыл бұрын

I ordered a new Xpress x18 pro with 115 yamaha sho in October of 2021. They told me boat would be ready by March. I called in March and my dealer, Wild Bills Boats in Mead, Oklahoma told me that Xpress didn't have a motor for my new boat. I didn't get my boat until mid July 2022 due to lack of an available115 sho. My dealer is a small dealer, probably 5 employees in total. My dealer was told by Xpress that they didn't have a motor for the boat. Just sharing my experience, thanks for all the content. Love the channel!

@garybisbeeii8465 Жыл бұрын

You are my hero. Thanks for the truth. I wanted to take a vacation for you to install a F70 , but I had it done here and got lucky. Thanks you.

@richadams8458 Жыл бұрын

Keep it up Andy!!! Speak the truth. Totally true

@johnburris5927 Жыл бұрын

Keep it up!!! Stay the path of looking out for all consumers!!

@paulgsmith9874 Жыл бұрын

Tell us how you really feel Andy!! But I’m pretty sure you are spot on! F#*~ the consumer.. it’s becoming the American way. Keep calling them out!! Way to go!!

@blaineschwarzel2440 Жыл бұрын

As a small dealer I know of what you speak of. You hit the nail on the head.

@MrAcekoomboom Жыл бұрын

Right on point. I bought a boat during covid and i didn't want a motor because i had a 250. My dealer asked me if i could request a motor and they would take it off and sell me my boat for the agreed price. Then they sold the motor to another customer.

@kendalessandro2209 Жыл бұрын

Andy, you hit the nail right on the head. We are a smaller dealership and the companies take our money for school, service manuals, and online ordering and parts catalogs but then when you need a motor in March it’s wait until December which you won’t get by then. I was waiting over two years for a stainless prop and canceled it. We are getting it in the butt and when the rep tells you to save money and quit being a dealer and buy from the big dealers, what a kick in the ass. I have been in retail since 1987 and it is a total s#$t show. I’m with you, just doing service and let the big dealers eat the turds.

@B.A.P. Жыл бұрын

100% Andy. I've only been waiting 13 months for a motor I already paid for. Every time you say "Jordan", I think you are talking directly to me...which is nice.

@chrissmith2305 Жыл бұрын

Andy is 100000% keeping it real on his outlook and videos!!!!

@keithowens4942 Жыл бұрын

Great channel with awesome content. Keep it up from lake Livingston Tx

@kevinwebster3023 Жыл бұрын

Spot on Andy! It's not just the boating industry either. Consumers haven't been "customers" for a long time - I doubt customers are even considered Marks these days. Pathetic!

@HookedOnTuna Жыл бұрын

Definitely on to something there. We see it over here on the coast in MA. Some places have no idea when they can get an outboard yet down the road another place has one ready to rock. Dealer size and who you know is definitely a factor. We’ve seen a few new dealers pop up and it’s interesting how suddenly there is outboards for them to sell.

@mikeolson7188 Жыл бұрын

You tell em Andy,im glad i dont have to deal with the sales stuff anymoore.We use to move about 200 to 225 outboards per year and around 125 to 150 boats,but our bread and butter was in our service dept and proppeller repair shop.i didnt do much pre-rigged stuff as we liked to do our own rigging and let the customer choose whatever engine,electronics and trolling motor that they preferred.Probly coulds made a lil more profit on pre-rigged units,but it just wasnt my cup of tea.Sounds like now its about the only way to get a boat/motor/trailer.You've hit the nail on the head in this vid,keep up the good work fellas,im glad someone has the balls to tell it like it is!!!

@bryanmoring4298 Жыл бұрын

I absolutely believe this to be true. I know a little over a year ago it was hard to find places that had electronics in stock if you wanted to upgrade them but you could go to a boat dealer and every new boat had those electronics already on them

@Choffa09 Жыл бұрын

Andy!!!! Amen! Speak the truth!!

@daleb2786 Жыл бұрын

Love your honesty and videos

@CaptMako Жыл бұрын

You nailed it down, I been trying to repower for the last 3 years in Saudi Arabia Finally I managed to get 3x300’s yamahas

@TeamMarineService Жыл бұрын

Nice, you will be happy with them. Hello from 🇺🇸

@aaronrobinson3517 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the everything you do. I didn’t have an outbound problem, but pretty sure I found the last Minn kota ultrex in the US during “Covid” and I definitely overpaid but unfortunately I needed it.

@JosephSmith-sg9yv Жыл бұрын

You are correct, that's why I now have a Tohatsu on mine.

@robbiereese9203 Жыл бұрын

Andy you hit the nail right on the head!!!!!

@mikevovos2617 Жыл бұрын

You are spot on

@DatGuy960 Жыл бұрын

Taking care of the customer is what drives a good business. That's why your name is mentioned by many people all over the country. I was from Michigan and now Florida and your name has been mentioned frequently. My fishing days are over and that Ranger project is, too. If ya run into anyone that's interested in a project boat is still running 60mph keep me in mind. I wanna see it back on the water.

@davidappel5840 Жыл бұрын

You're partially right on the motor thing, great video.

@texasbasstours Жыл бұрын

Hey Andy, I'm the guy from Texas that called you about re-powering 3 months ago, in which you stated it would take 6+ months to get a motor. You said it would be easier for me to call dealers and ask if they would sell me one and ship it to you for mounting. Wellllll, I called 8 dealers and NOT 1 had a motor, that wasn't already mounted to a NEW boat, to sell. This BS the motor manufacturers and mega dealers are pulling on us is an absolute crock of 💩!!!

@marcushuffman1998 Жыл бұрын

I totally agree on some points but not all . I work at a medium size dealership and we had boats delivered from the builder without engines and if they did have engines they didn’t have steering. Some came without gauges or other electronics. It was a shit show and it’s hard to point one solid finger . Love your point of view and the videos plus your in my home state, on Wisconsin!

@ScruffyCityFishing Жыл бұрын

Wow! This exact thing happened to me. I wanted to repower. Called tons of dealers around the area and no one could get one for months or even a year, but guess what?? They had a boat I could buy. Finance it for the next 100 years. I just put the money into fixing my old motor. I think it didn’t help that Evinrude exited so early. Stretched the supply even further. Thank you for keeping it real as always!

@bdanglea1 Жыл бұрын

The truth hurts!! 💯 agree as usual great video andy!

@spencercline1957 Жыл бұрын

Same problem with reloading ammo. When Covid hit you couldn’t find primers from anywhere. But on 2 hand markets you could buy them for 5x the cost and now when you can find the from shops or online retailers now the price has triple. And like your said the boat makers gets first choice same with big ammo companies. They got to hog the market

@clearwater1539 9 ай бұрын

You are exactly right I waited 12 months for my sea pro I was told by the dealer Mercury had to fulfill its contracts with the dealer's first.

@sandman70131 11 ай бұрын

Andy love your videos. Love how you tell everyone the truth. My father and i started a motorsports and marine shop 3-1/2 yrs ago and i figured we would be booming and in retrospect we cant get enough customers to even survive. I know az is land locked but people in the desert love lakes.😅

@takasalo Жыл бұрын

You Are absolutely right.These things happen here too(Finland)

@Lorensfishpatrol Жыл бұрын

Andy being blunt and honest once again.

@bassfever4234 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Andy great real video. Thanks

@markmayon8594 Жыл бұрын

Thank u about time we bring all this out.

@johnpearce4349 Жыл бұрын

Andy RIGHT ON....I been interested in repowering my Ranger 520 with a Mercury 225 Pro XS 4 stroke. Last 2 years I've been getting delivery dates of 9-18-month deliveries with $500-$2000 dollars down. One dealer even said half down. I'm not giving anyone $2000 down on something I not going to receive for 9-12 months. I will run my 2002 Mercury Optimax till it dies, then I'll make my decision. It will not be a new boat for $80,000.... probably a rebuild. Thanks for what you do.

@kennyhaworth9606 Жыл бұрын

Well said and well thought out

@realestateinvestmentresult3723 Жыл бұрын

TRUTH!!!

@projectfishinchannel33 Жыл бұрын

It's more than just the boat industry but we need more people like you talking about this shit take the blinders off folks

@randybarger8649 Жыл бұрын

I love it, Andy keep on keeping it real 100% awesome job

@loadedhot1034 Жыл бұрын

At my local credit union there back parking lot looks like an used boat & RV dealship. They have about 4 nearly new Bass Boats and several near brand new campers that were all repossessed.

@prius_Brent_Goldie Жыл бұрын

Andy's always correct, that's why I'll always use team marine!

@rickrobinson7032 Жыл бұрын

Great show guys!

@scotttaylor4566 Жыл бұрын

I think you are on point. They make more on new boats than anything else 😮

@user-yz7ql6yh1x 10 ай бұрын

This is absolutely true!

@bigdoggsp1 Жыл бұрын

now i know why i like your videos,good job Andy

@user-gi1vt2fg4u 11 ай бұрын

Your right. It happened in the automobile industry too

@codyknight7481 Жыл бұрын

I hear you. I will run my 2001 Skeeter in the ground. Still sporting a Vmax 225 two stroke. I will just rebuild heads or whatever until they say they can't. Cheaper than a payment every month. I can go years with out a boat payment. Works for me.

@tommypv2 Жыл бұрын

I was out of the water for 6 months because my motor blew and NONE of the local dealers would work on it (200 Merc EFI) it’s too old they said. They can’t get parts and don’t want to bother with older motors. They mentioned that they have new boats in stock that I could trade in my boat. At $70K minimum, I couldn’t afford it without selling everything I had and going into debt. Had to find a mechanic 100 miles away to work on it, then we had to scour the used motor market for 3 months before we found a suitable powerhead from a reputable used motor dealer.

@garyglenn4238 Жыл бұрын

Went through the same thing, I wanted a new 200hp and Mercury and Yamaha dealers said minimum time 1 to two years but we can sell you a new boat with a new motor on it. I don't think so!

@timhall4154 Жыл бұрын

Dam good video ....Back i think about 8 months or so ago . The owner of prodigy boats posted a video on their page discussing ,the problems of getting motors,,live well pumps and switch panels ....

@evanshillcoxfishing7929 Жыл бұрын

Hit the nail on the head Andy! Good content

@chrishampton8842 Жыл бұрын

Spot on as usual, been waiting for this specific video, what a scam

@jasonboose9486 Жыл бұрын

Your so right. They are not making that many boat that nobody could get a motor

@edwardmarshall8795 Жыл бұрын

Great job Andy that needed to come out

@codyhooser3333 Жыл бұрын

Great video guy's!!!

@jamesschexnaider7930 Жыл бұрын

1980’s Yamaha was really not well known in Louisiana. What got them in the market is going to service centers and selling motors to people who repower or bought boat looked for motor. Cheaper, came with prop (Mercury & OMC did not) and fuel tank. They were $500 cheaper. Then oilfield companies and commercial fishermen put them on their boats. Then we had local aluminum boat builders who went from OMC & Mercury to Yamaha. All of a sudden Yamaha became a player. Local small guy that had a shop and sold engines made Yamaha and got them in the market dominated by OMC & Brunswick Marine (Mercury/Mariner/force).

@kennethjenkins6695 Жыл бұрын

My local dealer is Watson's Marine in bluff city tn. Last year every new boat in the showroom had the lower unit off,I suppose they sold them.

@bassneckfishing2505 Жыл бұрын

💯💪🏾 I guess I will keep my 1993 75 hp mercury two stroke outboard

@CajunRobFishing Жыл бұрын

Keep on keeping on the kick ass videos ! Yup bean counters in overdrive at work in the industry

@BarkingRugers Жыл бұрын

Andy, you've treated me right the times that we have talked. Power of the people bro you ain't wrong. Honesty goes a long long damn way, even if it isn't what you wanna hear. America: fuck yeah !!!

@clarkholton461 Жыл бұрын

Preach it Brother!

@rickysullivan5844 Жыл бұрын

Andy you are 100% correct same way on a lot of things even with the new vehicle market during COVID u had to get on a waiting list to buy a vehicle made used market sky rocket and the dealerships was jacking up over MSRP bc or the market couldn't get em so yea Mr Andy u r very correct they know they can make more on the bigger company's than they can with the smaller ones it's all about money they don't care about the consumer they gonna make there's if us as Americans would stand up and not take this bs we could change it back very quickly cause a long as they are making money they not gonna change hell if tahatsu can get u motors hell go with them it is what it is

@garykeeney-th6wq Жыл бұрын

I had the bus run around on Mercury engine from 2 different dealers. One year later I finally found a Suzuki engine. Glad I did. I couldn't be happier.

@WestCoastChris138 Жыл бұрын

Yet again, shoutout to team marine and Andy for keeping it real an telling it how it is!!! Mercury and Yamaha should be ashamed of themselves if that’s the kinda deal they made behind closed doors with the big boys. Shit on the consumer an take care of your buddies, shits crazy.

@robganon3333 Жыл бұрын

You got it! Waited 9 months for a trolling motor! All kinds of boats were being sold with the same motor on it from factory. Called the company and complained. Told them I've been using there product for 40 years. Doesn't matter.

@bps9651 Жыл бұрын

100% that’s what happened, waited a year and a half for my boat. They ended up taking on 50% boat more orders than a normal year but said they were putting dealers on quota which was a lie. Boat showed up without a motor but dealer had ordered an extra for me because they knew Alumacraft was unreliable.

@Sixseven_Kevin Жыл бұрын

I got lucky. Paid for a 2023 Suzuki DF75 and the dealer had it for me 5 days later! Probably a totally different story with the higher HP outboards.

@eugenemattingly1408 Жыл бұрын

Awesome SHIT!!! Keep it up!!! AWESOME!!!

@devinlehmann2064 Жыл бұрын

All I know is I worked for a small marina called JNTs and we couldn’t get outboards that didn’t come on a boat, but when we got bought by the Boathouse, a much larger corporate marina, they had a warehouse full of loose outboards

@jodyburleigh2760 Жыл бұрын

Being in the industry here i washington i know the woes of getting a motor.....6 months for last one we got. Thank god we do mainly i/o stuff and dont sell a lot of loose motors.....our service is what built this bussiness!

@timarmstrong521 Жыл бұрын

My man out here spittin’ facts!!!

@user-oy9gt9lw4g Жыл бұрын

I would agree. I sell boats in MN and we have been told to order loose Mercs directly from Alumacraft as "it will be much faster and cheaper" to just go through them then the actual manufacturer as they have plenty of extra motors just laying around... Seems ass backwards to me but that is what we are being instructed to do. Suzuki has been the best for us as far as getting loose motors to sell by far.

@terryelson5396 Жыл бұрын

I didnt have any issues getting a 9.9 tohatsu in 2021. I had a hell of a time getting a 20hp tohatsu computer though. Keep on grinding! I think the entire bass boat industry is screwed. $100k plus for boat motor trailer. When do we get to a point when enough is enough.