Rayleigh* And yes he is a real one.

This is a fair point.

@@Tekking101 it also wasn’t a sure thing that he would win he only found out about it well after oden was dead and he was probably getting weaker he wasn’t at his marine ford barely holding his sick body together level but he was probably 60 something when he found out that kaido killed oden

Also look at marineFord after the war, no way wano wouldn't end up like that after the war.

@@toliniewilliams6562 It would actually end up worse, cause the Marines were playing on the defensive, the Beast Pirates most certainly would not as they themselves are a hyper aggressive group.

@@faizadazene1894 exactly

He's like the inverse of Josuke

Ya i dont think any other OP KZfaqr could even recreate His content

He should've played Ameno

@@rshadhoward qQQ

Well there his KoL and his praise n worship segments of the 2nd son and the holy donuts every chapter reaction

Who the hell is Berry

100% feel the same

I'm hoping it's something closer to PTSI. Unless there were _several_ more battles w/ similar outcomes we've yet to learn of. Since that does not seem likely, I lean toward PTSI

I bet. I wonder what it was like fighting bb’s crew and why/how they lived?

​@Jamal Robertson Idiots! There will be a Pirate King!

Nah. Whitebeard Pirates are battle hardened.

Something he and i have in common

Not only that but it is said that kaido built onigashima so at the time of the whitebeard crew talking about attacking wano with ace only ace would have ever seen or heard of onigashima because kaido built it after izo left and it is also stated that kaido and Orochi started the fire festival to help keep the people in line and to have their own party so izo would have never heard of it, I think the fire festival was even based on oden burning in oil and them burning kozuki castle but I could be mixing that one up.

These are all such good points that I'd never even thought of

@@lillabet5556 Thanks ^_^

hmm... 🤷🏽‍♂️

the fire festival was already a thing for wano civilians. after oden's death, orochi used it as a commemoration of the eradication of the "evil" kozuki family, but it was a festival held for years prior to that

@@ragnarmeh8156 I don't see any reason Izo would assume that Orochi continued the tradition after he started enslaving people and destroying the country or that Kaido's crew would also have a party on the same day.

Maybe 🤔 kaido was going to marinefort cuz he knew white beard was going to die and wanted to pay his respects to whitebeard as his father/big brother like yeah he was definitely gonna wreck havoc and kill pirates and marines but I feel like he maybe would’ve been more in white beards pirates after all kaido does have respect and some type of love for the people that had defeated him or maybe he just antes to go to destroy the marines then kill whitebeard himself cuz in his mind he was probably like if someone is going to defeat whitebeard is going to be me

Unique? It's decently common really

@@Koushakur not as common as regular fire which is boring for a majority of the time. Sure we have blue exorcist but there it has fire Elementals being rare but it's not as common

Ha your fire pales in comparison to magma! Technically it can get hotter but come on magma is so awesome. Dosen't help that akainu is my favorite character. Both because power but also I find his mentality and philosophy fascinating.

@@jamesakin9996 magma should only be for the extremely special who can actually destory people. Most of the time it's not used to it's full potential

I doubt Oda would just let characters like Marco, Jozu, Vista, Izo get taken down by someone like Weevil. Maybe the lower end WB pirates? But even then they’ve suffered enough unless Oda just hates the WB pirates lol

And Izo mostly new the customs from before Kaido showed up at Wano. Maybe back then the festival was held at the capital, because why would a shogun take it away from the people to an uninhabited island (unless you were Orochi)

Whitebeard pirates were able to make a surprise entrance on marineford even when they knew he will be coming so it could have been possible especially since they had Izo.

Two common enemies for the price of one 😂

he won't be a commander, more like an ally with HUGE connections like Reighley.

​@@revenantronin8377 I can see him joining Luffy. The reason why he didn't join Shanks makes total sense. They were rivals & enemies since Roger days. Still were enemies when the Red Haired Pirates became a Yonko crew. Difference is that's not the case with the Strawhats. Luffy carries Ace will & able to turn people around him into allies. Marco has constantly complimented the Strawhats throughout Wano war. When he heard Luffy was going to War with Kaido he immediately came. Yes. I see Marco joining the Grand Fleet & leading remnants of Whitebeard. Of course this will all take place during the final war.

An Ally, but I doubt he will join the Grand Fleet. He still needs to continue Whitebeards legacy.

@@davidortiz3094 he's either an ally or a neutral power like Mihawk, Crocus or Reighley. He won't become a commander to Luffy, let's be real. Marco was a Yonko candidate a few years ago and even currently he's respected by Big Mom, Shanks, King and Queen (among others). His power rivals Luffy's in more ways than you think, which is why I'm saying he could become an allied force but not a commander under Luffy. Saying he'd become a commander for sentimental reasons is like saying, Zoro would become Kid's commander if Luffy were killed. Zoro would not join Kid because if Zoro were to will it, he could command Luffy's crew and fleet. Just because the strawhats disband doesn't mean he'll be willing to work under Kid who he's already in the same league with i.e. Supernova, and in Marco's case Yonko candidate. Basically, Marco disbanded the WB pirates because they couldn't carry on WB's legacy into the new era and any further losses would be an insult to WB's record. He had already retired and was guarding WB's hometown as his final act of loyalty and gratitude. He ONLY came to Wano because Neko requested his assistance for Oden's sake, to redeem himself with a second chance to save the legacy of one of his heroes. He couldn't save WB's territories but at least he could aid in saving Oden's territory. And his speech about passing on the torch to Zoro and Sanji is the culmination of his whole character arc. And that's why he was so carefree after finally coming to terms with the reality of belonging to a bygone era, dude was sleeping and daydreaming in the middle of a war and smiling all the time. He could die and wouldn't regret a thing. Oda is telling us that he's finally done, Marco will remain retired after this and he'll spend his time helping out people in need. However, he still has a connection to Teech and he knows how his body works etc. If he's called upon once again by Luffy, he will definitely rise to the occasion as an ally for Ace's sake and for redeeming their loss to Teech during the payback war. A shared goal kind of alliance, like Law has with Luffy, not a subordinate type alliance like the strawhat Fleet or core commanders (just the strawhats basically) He won't actively join Luffy, and won't swear allegiance to him like Chinjao and the rest did in Dressrosa. He's an outsider, the samurai may join Luffy as a show of gratitude (like the Tontatas, Sun pirates(fishmen) and minks did) but Marco owes Luffy nothing, in fact it's the other way around. So far he has saved Luffy, Nami, Ussop, Zoro, and Sanji (I think he even helped out Brooke and Robin). Much like Crocus, Kuma and Reighley, he's acting as a sort of guide that ensures the Strawhats achieve greatness. That's his purpose, his fighting ability is just a segway into that. Not every character thats fond of the strawhats or Luffy needs to join them (we've had and still have a lot of those I could provide a list but I think you know this fact already).

TEACH SPARE THEM COZ OF FAMILY 😂😂 100%

Some might have joined him 😒

Well you need to keep in mind that Blackbeard is more of a Chaotic character, then being straight up Evil. He most likely spared them because they were in fact his Family for a long time. Otherwise there is no way he would let Fruits like the Phoenix and Diamond to escape Him OR the War was a lot closer that it was reported, maybe the BB Pirates were too injured and had to let them escape.

The WB likely retreated after suffering too many casualties. whether that came at the cost of their crewmates (Jozu, Vista, Whitey Bey, etc.) dying to buy time we don't know yet. Marco would have too much pride to take any deal BB had to spare his life. He would die as a WB pirate than to submit to BB. It is interesting to note that none of the Titanic Captains have a DF that belonged to the WB crew. maybe they didn't get to steal any of their fruits.

That could be part of it, I thought it could be because of white beards sickness (idk if he was sick at the time of the flashback so that’s more of a guess) or B that Kaido wouldn’t pull any punches off the bat. Liek kaido would pull out all his stops instantly because white beard is a lot different caliber of foe then Luffy.

If they went some of the crew wouldve for sure died or even WB wouldve died

I agree considering how much he is capable of

Sorry i disagree , we only saw him in mere sequecnes instead of full fights , contrary to what people think he is not admiral level as attacking them only once each(marineford ) isn't enough to prove it (same with big mom) , when it comes to king and katakuri they are equally capable ; king has monstrous durability(+ancient zoan and fire buff) and katakuri has special paramecia + future sight , besides marco' s regernation is not indefinite it will wear down when his stamina diminishes with time so the battle will be tricky and whoever wins it will be extreme-diff

Damn that'd be crazy

He was Rox all along...

@@XenoPon2 Damn that'd be crazy

@@XenoPon2 I’m not saying he was rox, I’m just saying his devil fruit awakening was probably a rebirth

@@monkeydgarp9663 I'm not saying he's Rocks either, I'm just saying you've never seen him and Rocks in the same room...

He did awaken the Cringe Cringe Fruit

Yeah, I was about to type about how Kaido and Orochi probably started the fire festival too.

king had his wings clipped

Yeah, but one of his wings was cut off by Zoro, so that's not happening.

@@BudokaiTH Great idea

Did he?

@@XenoPon2 I honestly thought yamato had more considering she's talked to luffy multiple times and I'm pretty sure she's met other members of the crew, i don't believe for a second that Marco surpassed her

But he probably doesn’t wanna get involved with blackbeard again, and honestly Yamato, could get development, plus she’s been around Luffy, and if he wants someone that interesting to join they will.

@@XenoPon2 yes

@@romram7984 read again the manga, marco has interacted with all of the strawy

Between being an ancient zoan and the abilities of the Phoenix his recovery and endurance gotta be near Kaido levels. He just doesn’t have the raw power of Kaido or the necessary level of haki to compete with a yonko.

@@nature_laughslast6438 Yet. Marco has still Room to Grow and is the fore barer of Whitebeards Will. What holds him back (power wise) is the fact that he is a Doctor and not a Fighter.

Well if Orochis Fruit revived him like 7 times, it would not be far fetched if The Phoenix Fruit can also revive its user. But maybe it is like an one time deal, you get the Resurrection, but you loose the Power, because you actually died.

I think Marco was reborn from WB's original vice-captain.

I think he meant while white beard was still alive. They definitely had some time between them learning of odens death and white beards attempt at saving ace. Not sure how that fight would go but they definitely had time right.