Nintendo has made it pretty clear that ToK will tie into SS - their expression that fans play SS in advance was pretty indicative that SS will be more important than TP or any other game.
@ratedn Жыл бұрын
Very true! The final memory containing the Fi noise from SS (in addition to all the other stuff about the "voice in the sword") should be ample enough evidence that SS is the direct tie-in here. However spend any length of time in the social spheres/online Zelda community and you'll see droves and droves of mostly disillusioned TP Fans who have vehemently been trying to tie elements from it to TOTK due to it's """darker""" approach. Case in Point why we made this video as a efficient and organized way of debunking those thought processes to save people some embarrassment and disappointment. - Andy
@javiervasquez625 Жыл бұрын
@@ratedn I should point out that according to the Hyrule Historia book the so called "Shadow Mirror" from Four Sword Adventures was used to "banish an ancient tribe who once attacked Hyrule long ago" AFTER Midna shattered the Mirror of Twilight in the Child Timeline where Four Sword Adventures *takes place.* The fact that such a SEPERATE mirror used for the banishment of tribes STILL EXISTS in the *Child* Timeline leaves open the possibility for other Mirrors of Twilight to exist "somewhere" out there in the Zelda world. I don't know about you but i'm still fairly open to possibility that the Twili (not Midna) will appear in Tears of the Kingdom precisely because of the existence of other mirror "gateways" such as the previously mentioned Shadow Mirror and the ironically named "Magic Mirror" from A Link to the Past. You guys assume that the shattering of a single mirror by a mortal member of a banished tribe somehow means permanent severing between the Light World and Twilight Realm but seeing as it was the omnipotent Golden Goddesses's decision to banish the Interlopers into such a realm in the first place that means they could just as easily either create or allow another such mirror to appear so that Midna's descendants may be given the opportunity to leave the Twilight Realm and bask in the Light of the Light World.
@ColtonMyers1 Жыл бұрын
@@javiervasquez625 I didn’t ever say there wasn’t a possibility of seeing the Twili appear again - I only reiterated what Nintendo has stated and inferred, which is that Skyward Sword clearly ties into Tears of the Kingdom.
@javiervasquez625 Жыл бұрын
@@ColtonMyers1 Very well then my apologies for misunderstanding your comment and rambling out of subject. I agree with your comment.
@GANONdork123 Жыл бұрын
Nintendo also said the same thing about Breath of the Wild tying into Twilight Princess, and that was a load of bunk. It was just marketing to get people to buy the remaster, and I imagine it's a similar situation here. "You're excited for our new Zelda game? You should buy this $60 remaster of an old one in the same series! There might be some clues that tie into the new game you're excited for maybe not really"
@barneyjarneyson6409 Жыл бұрын
honestly wasnt onboard at first but you have THOROUGHLY convinced me that Groose is the guy in the mural
@hiimbobbyo631 Жыл бұрын
Except he’s not lmao. It’s an ancient zonai hero
@antonywithnoh2923 Жыл бұрын
I haven't really seen any evidence of Midna's return, but my theory is that Fi is back and will have a role in restoring the Master Sword. (I have a video about it if anyone is interested)
@avatarkyoshi3405 Жыл бұрын
Please Midna come back!
@researchinbreeder Жыл бұрын
Tbh the only thing I really consider a connection point is that the architecture and placement of the bridge of Lake Hylia are clearly drawn from TP. But even then, that was probably done in reference to the Bridge of Eldin without actually being anything more significant.
@sethfeldpausch4337 Жыл бұрын
The only way bringing back the Twili people could make sense is if they were revealed to be the same race as the Zonai, as the Zonai clearly will play a major role in TOTK. There's some really convincing theories that speculate that they are the same tribe, but otherwise, I will be perfectly happy with whatever they decide to do!
@Galvvy Жыл бұрын
Well the interlopers did come from Hyrule and ended up banished, no reason they can't come back besides the mirror, which could have been reconstructed in theory on the Hyrule side. However I'm hesitant to assume that's the case. If the Zonai do end up just being some random tribe of literal who's who took over the sky I would be pretty disappointed though.
@ikeaira8701 Жыл бұрын
still haven't beaten TotK so bare with me, but I have a feeling with TotK/BotW Hyrule we'll see another sequel that may introduce the Twilight Realm as that's the place where the rest of the Zonai went to while Rauru & Mineru stayed behind to live with the Hylians, Gerudo, Zora, Rito, and Gorons. Good examples are Midna and Zants Helmets(more specifically Midna's and her completed Helmet) look very similar to the Zonai's in design. Depending on how TotK ends and if there's any hints(don't give me the Chasm is supposed to represent the Twilight Realm, cause that's bs. The Chasm is just what use to be the Surface long long ago, and is used as a Cosmetic/Amiibo dump mostly). So my thoughts are simply: The Twilight Realm is coming in the next Sequel.
@violetadams4428 Жыл бұрын
I think you are absolutely right. It would be kool to see Midna again though. Even though it would make no sense at all.
@myWeirdNerdyNeighbor Жыл бұрын
I really hope your channel takes off! 😄🤩
@dustycadet1589 Жыл бұрын
I simp the imp.
@10k-Noodles Жыл бұрын
To me it feels more like Fi would make a return than anyone else. But Midna is peak companion. She's not annoying as hell. That's all it takes to be peak companion in Zelda. Not only that. But she had me worried about her and racing to save her. I ain't doing that for Fi, Navi, or King of Red Lions. They can rot.
@seanbaritone Жыл бұрын
I got to that part and I was literally WHITE!
@MegaVirus700 Жыл бұрын
Take back that King of Red Lions slander. Which companion could you mount a canon to? That's right, only the King
@10k-Noodles Жыл бұрын
@@MegaVirus700 You do make a compelling point. But Midna helped me cross large distances instantly with the press of a button. Whereas he helped us cross long distances over the course of an hour.
@Kyleneedsalife Жыл бұрын
Btw there is no way that link would turn into the wolf because he’s the link of the wild only the link of twilight will turn into the wolf because he’s the one who got cursed also the link of twilights curse does not exist because he can change in between wolf and human
@companyoflosers Жыл бұрын
twilight princess was my favorite game... but I think people are getting way too damn desperate to see the twili make a re-appearance. give it up guys. they will come back when Nintendo wants them to come back, and it wont require this level of speculation and grasping at straws to notice.
@wolfyashysadness5117 Жыл бұрын
*Good talk. I'll be so glad he's back, or even a new story, who knows what the future holds? Heh*
@eileensmiller8041 Жыл бұрын
The only theory I've ever had was that the Zoni were embassies of the Goddess of Courage at a time when there was no hero
@gpt6 Жыл бұрын
I heard all sorts of theories about TOTK, but I never heard, that anyone believes Midna or the twilight realm come back. I think, there is no chance it will. Not just because of the points you mention in the video, but just because, that's not how Zelda games are crafted. The development of Zelda games always starts with a specific gameplay mechanic, not with the story or characters: OOT: First 3D Game MM: 3 Day cycle & transformation (masks) WW: Open world (first try -> Nintendo said themselves, that it only took place on islands to make an open world possible at that time) TP: This is literally the only game, that does not 100% apply, but I'll get to that in a minute :D SS: Motion control BOTW: Actual/modern open world TOTK (Most likely): Crafting & Sandbox (Crafting weapons, vehicles, outfits and I expect, that you will be able to actually also change some things around in hyrule itself) Little side story for anyone who cares why TP doesn't apply to that rule: If you like TP or not, Nintendo said, that they actually never wanted to make TP and they didn't like it. It's a game specifically done like a game from and for the western market without the usual development cycle, because Zelda never sold that well in Japan and the flop, that WW was in the west, nearly killed the entire franchise. Don't get me wrong, I love WW and TP, but that are just facts you can look up. So, in order to revive Zelda in the western market, they just gave the western audience what they wanted, instead of focussing on a new gameplay mechanic and doing something new: - It has a lot of similarities to OOT by design - The Twilight world is also not really a new mechanic, but one, that was proven to work in ALTTP (dark world) - The transformation was also successfully done before in MM - And people wanted it to be darker (which is not a gameplay mechanic) You can actually see this, if you ask yourself which 3D Zelda is the odd one. You could think of any of them (not counting OOT, because it's the first) and see why they are the odd one, except of TP and actually make TP the odd one. They are all about taking your expectations and throwing them as far away as they can. - MM: Crazy sinister & depressing right after OOT, like whaaat? - WW: Toon style all of a sudden after MM and a huge ocean with islands? - SS: Takes a completely different focus with its motions controls and linear gameplay - BOTW: I guess that's obvious But TP literally feels like what you would expect.
@gergomi7289 Жыл бұрын
Yep yep yep!!!
@Vapecatlol Жыл бұрын
I thought the sounds reminded me more of fi than anything .
@hintonempire1178 Жыл бұрын
That Twili moan had me rolling 🤣
@ratedn Жыл бұрын
There’s more where that came from 😂
@seanbaritone Жыл бұрын
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@ihatemedia1946 Жыл бұрын
Really nice video, was very surprised we had around the same number of subs. You earned mine, great quality!
@steelphoenix8978 Жыл бұрын
tp was my 1st and is my fav zelda, botw might topple it im still undecided, i would think fi would have more likely hood of making an appearance than midna. my thought is the voice is prolly just whoever the hand is that grabs link.
@DeezNuts-py4lv Жыл бұрын
i would love midna to come back but it just wouldn’t make sense at all
@javiervasquez625 Жыл бұрын
I mean it's always possible for her *descendants* to appear should either the Golden Goddesses deem them worthy to finally leave the Twilight Realm and mingle in the Light World once more or a different Mirror of Twilight is revealed to exist similar to the "Shadow Mirror" from Four Sword Adventures and the Magic Mirror from A Link to the Past.
@unLokii- Жыл бұрын
I think maybe they could come back but not in totk. There’s already so much going on in TOTK and they wouldn’t wanna take away focus from that. I would love to see Midna again and this time we save her instead of Zelda. Honestly, with all the talk about the cycle of hatred being broken in totk, I’d that does happen I feel like the hero will still reincarnate, just not Ganon or Zelda for it will now just be Links adventures. And maybe in some game in the future, instead of saving Zelda we might save Midna for some reason
@gergomi7289 Жыл бұрын
Spoilers much?!? 😹
@youropinionsareshitandsoar1954 Жыл бұрын
It could be a cool spin-off game a break from the breath of the wild series. I wouldn't mind if they did a remaster of Majora's mask either tbh.
@DarkLordTalon11 ай бұрын
You're forgetting one major thing here. We will never get Midna again at least in a continuing forward in time, timeline. Its been Over 10,000 years since TP. The Twili obviously do age and have generations. Midna would be Looooooong since dead and dust.
@projectdeadhand4413 Жыл бұрын
Certified Banger
@julien6871 Жыл бұрын
Yea nah The Twilight won't be returning in TOTK and I have legitimate proof
@davidrooker5141 Жыл бұрын
let's see it thin
@julien6871 Жыл бұрын
@@davidrooker5141 the magic is referred to as “Zonai” in nature and actually acts as power sources instead of soul energy
@ratedn Жыл бұрын
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@javiervasquez625 Жыл бұрын
Thank the goddesses there is no traffic police in Hyrule otherwise Link would get arrested for reckless driving and Ganondorf would be able to conquer the World unopposed.
@ratedn Жыл бұрын
@@javiervasquez625 we have cars now in TotK… You know what that means
@gergomi7289 Жыл бұрын
More fun vids with various sound effects ✌️👻.
@avatarkyoshi3405 Жыл бұрын
Please Midna come back!
@davidrooker5141 Жыл бұрын
midna is in hyrule warriors
@connermontee317 Жыл бұрын
How does this channel only have 45 subs?
@ratedn Жыл бұрын
Asking the real questions
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
“Haphazardly throwing points together because they fit your narrative is dangerous” I’m paraphrasing here, but nice statement!
@AlucardTheRedeemed Жыл бұрын
Maybe the next one will bring them back to meet with the new furry species. Heck maybe we'll even see the Subrosians come back. 😂
@uhhcallmejefe Жыл бұрын
Ok
@Thenewbagman11 ай бұрын
Hopefully they will kept Twilight Princess away forever.
@SIx1YaDone Жыл бұрын
But.. but.. what about the Twilight Princess Link Amiibo releasing alongside ToTK?
@SIx1YaDone Жыл бұрын
@Vickiraytive Games it’s a GameStop exclusive that releases on the 12th of May.
@SIx1YaDone Жыл бұрын
@Vickiraytive Games it’s advertised as “The Legend of Zelda Link Twilight Princess amiibo”
@SIx1YaDone Жыл бұрын
@Vickiraytive Games I would love that very much to be the case! I was thinking that it might have had something to do with Midna or the Twili making a return in ToTK
@kieranturner9014 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes the good old "this reminds me of this thing" but it still doesn't exist. Good argument there 😂
@wolfyashysadness5117 Жыл бұрын
*Well, I wouldn't play this game then.* *I like TP, I like wolves, I like Twilian's race, I like Shadows, and Midna IS not my favorite, Zant is*
@Repyhebuc Жыл бұрын
TOTK will work just fine even without involving the Twili and their story, though they can develop them in future titles.
@gergomi7289 Жыл бұрын
Nope.
@yuseifudogamer4717 Жыл бұрын
6:34 the Mirror was only destroyed in ONE TIMELINE. Breath Of The Wild is at the end of ALL timelines. You're trying to deny the likelihood that, by a majority rule, the Mirror could've been allowed to exist in this world. At least do your research. This is the most annoying "counter-argument" from people who try to argue against it. At least Acknowledge that it wasn't destroyed in the other timelines, and don't try to say it was destroyed in the Adult timeline via Wind Waker, because only those with the blood of interlopers can canonically destroy the mirror
@ratedn Жыл бұрын
Unless you can provide evidence that the mirror does in fact exist in other timelines via information within the games, then no, that’s only an assumption that it exists in other timelines. You can ignore all other points, like you did, but you’ll be failing to see the true nature of what’s going on. Truth of the matter is, we don’t know when the interloper war took place, sure you can look at Hyrule Historia for example for some answers, but it won’t give you a logical conclusion, one with evidence backed behind it that is. And before you say Hyrule Historia is canon this canon that, the book tells us that it’s up to the player’s imagination and things can change with new information. Where is the new information that the Twili are coming back and that they exist in other games? Again please provide evidence and information within the games themselves. - Anthony
@yuseifudogamer4717 Жыл бұрын
@ratedn it is absolutely canon that the banishment of the interlopers occurred long before even Ocarina Of Time. This is backed up by the story the sacred spirit tells Link before he sets out for the Lakebed temple. Not to mention that Ganondorf's banishment to the Twilight Realm was a result of the great war that occurs in the child timeline after the Hero Of Time goes back to the child timeline and successfully warns the king of Ganondorf's plot. While yes, certain aspects of the timeline are subject to change, the banishment of the interlopers is actually confirmed to take place thousands of years before Twilight Princess, and in turn before Ocarina Of Time. So yes, it exists across all timelines.
@hintonempire1178 Жыл бұрын
@@yuseifudogamer4717 You mean to say "existED across all timelines", don't you? It is not accurate to say that the Mirror of Twilight exists in a current tense in all timelines, as we know for a fact that it is gone in both the CT and the AT. CT because of Midna's farewell, and AT because of Daphnes' Triforce wish to wash away or 'erase' the ancient land of Hyrule.
@yuseifudogamer4717 Жыл бұрын
@hintonempire1178 only those with the blood of the interlopers can completely destroy the Mirror. NOT even Ganondorf's power, utilizing the Triforce of power, was able to completely destroy it. You are lying to yourself if you say the Mirror was destroyed in the Adult Timeline. No it wasn't, stop lying.
@yuseifudogamer4717 Жыл бұрын
Also, I ALREADY debunked that in the previous statement. Learn to read
@OmniSolaris Жыл бұрын
⚡ Midnå Twilight Leygate ⚡
@davidrooker5141 Жыл бұрын
what about hyrule warriors midna is in that game
@hintonempire1178 Жыл бұрын
Hyrule Warriors is not a Zelda game; Its a non-canon Warriors game.
@overdrive112 Жыл бұрын
Test
@melodymeh7934 Жыл бұрын
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@windchange711 Жыл бұрын
Why the curse words and foul language in a video game commentary? You do realize children often end up on their way here, looking for Zelda coverage.
@ratedn Жыл бұрын
Well, firstly, all of the swearing (to my current recollection) was bleeped or comedically cut-off. Our analytics show the 25-34 age range being our #1 age demographic (over 30%) with 18-24 being the second largest. Less than 3% of people who have seen **any** of the videos on our channel are under 18 according to the information we receive from KZfaq. In conjunction to this, we have signaled our channel and each individual video as "Not Made for Kids". As far as we know understand, it will not be pushed into the algorithm for anyone who KZfaq deems as an underage account. Regardless of all of this, we do produce videos in a more serious, lore-perspective manner, which can be seen in the video that was uploaded after this one. This was our first Zelda video on our channel and we are constantly changing and tweaking our content as we are still very fresh on the scene.
@DanielMazahreh Жыл бұрын
Twilight Princess was one of the worst 3D Zelda games alongside Skyward Sword. I actually find Midna completely overrated, poorly written, and more annoying than Navi. Twilight Princess is basically when the Zelda community develops a Zelda game. It’s so cringe.
@ratedn Жыл бұрын
I like the difference in opinion. And I definitely see your point! (this is Anthony (blue joycon)) although I do disagree with what you said, I say TP suffers from a lot of cliche writing techniques that often leave it feeling dry at points for sure
@zmija3846 Жыл бұрын
On a base level I enjoy the game especially for it's music and dungeon designs (It's probably only #3 or #4 on my favorite Zeldas though) but the TP circlejerkers are the worst thing to ever be birthed of the Zelda community. This video was essentially a indirect response to all the Midna copium huffers we've been seeing on Twitter for months
@kellerglee Жыл бұрын
OH hello rain-wall-climbing Daniel, didn't expect to see you again! Thanks for your help again haha
@ratedn Жыл бұрын
@@user-hy6hw1bk3n MM based.
@DanielMazahreh Жыл бұрын
@@kellerglee It is my pleasure! =) So nice that we bumped into each other. Small world.
@vaiyt Жыл бұрын
Your pet character ain't coming back, that's not how Zelda games work or ever worked. Lay off the copium.