Oot adult link doesn’t have the master sword when he is a child and he turns back into a child before majoras mask and after so of course it would look different and it is also confirmed by developers that twilight princess is 100 years after oot when he talks about his regrets I get that he had the ocarina of time but that doesn’t make him not have regrets BOOM you just got debunked by a young teen

People tend to wonder why you haven’t used the manga as source but they also don’t know that in the oot manga, Link was friends with Volvagia the dragon that literally eats gorons.

Why would you say it’s “debunked” over so little evidence?

"The scabbards don't match up." They do... they do match up... like, incredibly well, with only minor differences. I'm actually really surprised that the developers got enough detail to match them up as close as they did. If anything, this shows that the Hero of Time intenionally customized his personal scabbard to imitate the Master Sword's, cause like others have said, it wouldn't make sense for him to still have the Master Sword or its scabbard. "The shade didn't recognize Link as the hero despite having the triforce of courage and the Master Sword." Um, TP Link doesn't have the Master Sword when they first meet... in that very clip you just showed. Also, maybe this is just me, but I think it's debatable whether or not Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf actually have a piece of the triforce in Twilight Princess. I think it's more like they have a right to each piece because they have been chosen by the gods to hold it. In any case, the shade does recognize Link as the hero of legend, or at least that he's destined to become the hero, but simply holds doubt about whether he's ready to face the challenges he's up against. "The Hero's Shade doesn't utilize any moves the Hero of Time used to take down Ganondorf." None at all? And why are we talking about JUST Ganondorf? He taught TP Link both the Jump Attack and the Spin Attack. Both moves were used by OOT Link consistently throughout his journey. The other moves he probably learned later in life as a knight. Even without official confirmation, it's very obvious through the shade's dialogue alone, not to mention also through the songs he teaches TP Link, that the shade is meant to represent OOT/MM Link.

The Theory’s in this video have a good ring to them 😊❤ I love it

My guy really tried to argue against Nintendo, creators of LOZ about Link.

Honestly, in the absence of greater evidence that this is Zelda dreaming, the most reasonable explanation seems to be that Nintendo simply wanted to save money by reusing a game engine they'd already developed a few years ago. And I don't have a problem with that.

You do realize he was 10 then 10 in a 17 year olds body in oot? Shade is a grown ass Link that became a trained hylian night And why would he have the master sword he put it back c'mon man ...

Not to be rude, but in several things, it is confirmed that it is the hero of time. Also, if it was literally any other link other than the hero time that would be flipping stupid and literally make no flipping sense. Why the hell would it be just some other link or even worse someone random. that would be boring and good storytelling in any way. It would be so unfulfilling and just less impactful. The reason it was so impactful in the first place was because it was a link that we played before not some random night of hyrule, and yes, I know commenting feeds interaction, vampires like you. But people who keep on trying to shit on things that are fun really piss me off. Even if you’re not spreading misinformation, you’re spreading boring information that makes what could be good storytelling stupid. Stop ruining a good story because you want to theorize and make everything. Not fun for everyone. just because you wanna be controversial doesn’t mean you shit maybe you should work on writing and you realize maybe if it is the time hero it would be a lot more interesting and less stupid as an inclusion

f gay af

I reject your reality, and substitute my own

I like this style of video!

Makes me think of a link to the past

I was sorely disappointed to check your channel and find out that fi wasn’t in more of your shorts ):

The Legend of Link Zelda's awakening.

I always took the Hero of Time to be a title rather than a person, and assumed the Shade was just another Hero who'd come before Link.

They should've just named it "Legend of Zelda; Oracle of Echoes" The world building fits, the style fits, Oracle games are mostly unconventional LoZ games. Only thing that doesn't fit are the Deku Scrubs and "Tri" theme (fairy and rod)

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If it actually A Zelda awakening then maybe it represent the awakening of the triforce. If this is correct then the next game would be Ganondorf awakening

Bros trying to be different

I get that the CD-I Zelda's were bad, but we need to stop pretending they don't exist. Because this isn't Zelda's first outing as the hero.

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I’ve been seeing people say why the shade didn’t mention Navi… but now your theory might connect some dots with that because like you said maybe it wasn’t the link we think it is. Hmmmmm Good solid theory

Regarding the art style.. It's clear to me that Nintendo will be using it for any "2D" Zelda game going forward

Naaaah you’re reachin a bit, nice theory though frfr

I believe this game takes place after Link's Awakening link with sailing back to Hyrule from the Oracle games and on his way home he shipwrecked leading to Link's Awakening I believe this is right after link returns to Hyrule and finds out Zelda has been kidnapped leading into echoes of wisdom

They better not plot twist this with "it was all a dream" or I'm gonna scream!

This IS NOT THE FIRST TIME. PHILIP CD GAME?

Animation style seems similiar to link between worlds and the map is identical aswell

Zelda fans are so fucking annoying cause they’ll active argue *against* actually good plot points and characterization Hero's Shade being the Hero of Time is just a plot point that actively bolsters OoT's atory and actually gives that version of Link characterization thats more than just being a blank piece of wood. Bro gets actual character traits and youre actively trying to take that away Also, can i just point out it how insanely hypocritical it is of you to go "oh yeah Hyrule Historia isnt canon actually because I said so", yet turn around a d use fucking CONCEPT ART only ever shown in that very book as evidence for your claims. Either Hyrule Historia is canon, or it isnt. I fucking hate this wishy washy bullshit you fuck ass Zelda theorist love to pull with the franchise's lore books. It's canon until you arbitrarily decide its not in order to support your arguments On that note, I care way more about what the actual creators of the games have to say compared to just some random guy. Hyrule Historia says the Shade is the Hero of Time, therefore thats what he is. No amount of you acting intentionally obtuse or contradicting your own arguments will change that

Don’t wanna play as freakin Zelda

Not even gonna mention link between worlds the first game with this art style

Just because it's the same style doesn't mean its the same place

Link fails in his fight with Ganon...It's the START of the Downfall Timeline!! So we see some aspects common with OoT and ALttP.

CEO of waffling

As if every single thing you mentioned as being weird hasn't already happened in the games before

Oh no, a change in hyrules and geography

I just can't wait. I want the switch lite too!!

i just like the theory ngl like, whats the problem in thinking it ?

As for him accepting life as the hero... Also a far reach, for just because he is aware, does not mean that others are also aware by default. That's a fallacy.

The hidden skill talk of Shade saying that Link isn't a hero due to his lack of skill being a discrepancy is a far reach. Remember that what he said may not he supposed to be taken as literal fact. He could be darting as not being a full fledged hero because he is still growing. It could be personal bias from Time because of his regrets and even insecurities. He could have very well meant that Link is still lacking in skill, not that he isn't the true hero. It could also have been taunting, so that Link is more eager his best when fighting the Shade to prove himself.

As for the wolf transformation. Twilight Link would have never even known that he could transform into a wolf without being in direct contact with the Twilight. It is said that the transformation is supposed to protect the hero from darkness. OOT Link simply never had to transform into Wolf form due to the fact that he never had contact with Twilight energy. And as for why he knows, well, other people know too, before even Link knew it. Perhaps the knowledge could have already existed and was passed down to him. Or of course, The Hero's Shade could have been watching over Link, which is more likely.

The height difference doesn't matter at all. Stalfos are all the same tall size regardless of who they once were. Furthermore, he shouldn't go to Link's height, because most of Link's enemies are bound to be much bigger, for example, Ganondorf himself. Hero's Shade was preparing Link to fight not only against multiple foes, but also, his main antagonist. Kinda poetic that one of the skills is literally mandatory for you to finish the game. Even if he is not a Stalfos in specific, ghost monsters are known to be shaped weirdly. Just look at the poes in Arbiter's Grounds for example. His body could be warped due to his new form, or a fun theory from other fans is that he could even have absorbed some of the power within the fierce deity mask. But yeah, even if the manga accepts the Hero's Shade to be Time, this soldier could have very well been a knight who were trained by the techniques the Hero of Time passed down. I just don't get why he would call Link his child without being related to him.

This is why I NEVER believe in the Hyrule Historia.

Back then and to this day i velieve the shade was A link, but who knows how many there was between OOT and TP