Join ex-Google/ex-Facebook engineers for my coding interview training: techinterviewpro.com/ [edit] sorry, that isn't a Razer Viper, but it is the Deathadder V3 Pro. I was researching both for the video - afaik, they're almost identical, with the Deathadder being a bit taller in shape.

Man I just want a gaming mouse version of the MX Master 3S....

As a a millionaire - what we've been waiting for

You just spanked all those expert youtube reviewers, this is how a review is done. You got skills for reviewing. I had Logitech mouse fail many times, its like intentionally it will start double click issue after 2 year or so. No matter its 40$ or 150$ mouse.

Quick tip for Logi MX3 when using the browser: Before pressing CTR check first if the wheel is still spinning, or you'll get zoom 1000x 😲

Simplest and fool-proof way to customize the Razer mice on MacOS is to do all the customization of it on a Windows machine and then store those profiles on the mouse itself. Except very few features that are clearly indicated with "Synapse Only", each configuration and setup will work on MacOS as well. Once you configure it to your liking on the Windows machine, store the profile on the mouse and then just connect it to your Mac and voila - everything works perfectly.

Great video. no fluff, just tech. Love it! That polling info was great I had no idea that BT was that much worse than the dongle.

Thank you for this elite-level review of these elite-level wireless mice. I expect nothing less from the TechLead.

Mx 3s has been great to me. Love all the options you have when paired up with the keyboard, it’s an amazing work experience.

unpopular opinion: i have the mx master 3 and i think buying the 3s is worth it for the silent clicking. Just a small detail that makes sense: productivity mice should be silent if you are bringing it to libraries, classrooms, studyrooms, etc. The same reason why even if you like the sound of thocky keyboards, you wouldn't bring one out to public.

I really just want a variant of the mx master that's got some better gaming features; slightly lighter, better glide pads, the ability to charge via the wireless mousepad, yadayada. I used the mx revolution that got released in 2005/6 and I absolutely loved it. used it till it died. I want to go back to a mouse like that one day. I want something that doesn't look like an epic gamer mouse but that can actually function as one.

Based on my experience, I use all the button on my G502 hero, mainly for media player, the original DPI selector, I use it for volume control, the side buttons for forward and backward, and the sniper button for Play/Pause. Use it pretty much all the time, all day everyday.

The kensington expert track ball is the best productivity mouse I’ve used.

True fact, I change from the palm grip to the claw grip and I now have less bugs in my code.

I am surprised that you didn't review the G502 Lightspeed as a replacement option for the G502. It is the logical mouse choice that has to be in this review. I was looking for the same - having good productivity/coding/gaming mouse and regular traveling, it is the mouse that won the battle for me. Great review nonetheless!

I picked up the DeathAdder V3 pro and the Razer Pro Click mouse last year. Pro Click was very smooth and quiet as well as taller in the hand. All around a great productivity mouse.

Hey man, as a developer you truly reflect the feels and needs of everyone else in the industry ! Covered all my pain points when I was looking for the mouse, and without having to struggle, finally I found the best based on your review ! Also subscribing for more such content!

The Basilisk V3 (not the Pro version) is the real successor of the G502 (Proteus Core/Hero): optical switches, a far better mouse wheel, better side surfaces (the sides of the G502 regularly need to be cleaned) and no double click bug after using it for several months. The disadvantages compared to the G502 are the two missing buttons on the top left and the non-adjustable weight. The Basilisk V3 also feels a bit less valueable at the beginning until you get used to its material and lighter weight. The only thing I miss is one small button on the right side either to replace the aim button on the left (which is imho too far away for practial usage, anyhow) or generally for an additional function (like fastly switching to hypershift mode with your pinkie or ring finger which otherwise have nothing to do, at all).

Thanks everyone is recommending the 502 your perspective is appreciated.

The "snipe" button on the G502 can also be remapped. Plus on any G502 mouse, you can click the scroll wheel down, but also side to side (left or right), so that's 9 programmable buttons in total, not including the left and right mouse buttons.

I have the V3 Hyperspeed and with Steermouse for Mac I can only program the forward and back buttons, not the other button which defaults to side scroll. I wish it had a scroll wheel like the MX series from Logitech where you can control the amount of resistence for each notch you ratches as you scroll too. Common Razer, release V3 for Synapse for Mac!!!

Thank you for the indepth review. I am looking for a new mouse for a mix of productivity and casual gaming but features are super important.

Thank you! Tou described my exact use case of being hot swappable from gaming pc to a work mac. Finally have a good reason for the basilisk.

Logitech G903 wireless is great also have the 502X which I still use at my other computer as a non-millionaire.

You can modify the scroll wheel on the G502 X Plus. You can actually swap out the G502 scroll wheel for the one in the G502 X Plus. There's a video by Beardedbob on tearing it down.

I don't think you're right for bashing some of these devices about bluetooth support - I'm using G604 and I've never used the bluetooth feature - I just plug in the receiver to my work computer, my laptop and a pc at home. I just don't have the nerves to deal with bluetooth pairing and all of its quirks... not to mention that everything bluetooth uses all possible permutations of key presses to enter pairing mode. When I plug in the dongle I know that the OS will pick it up like any other mouse, no weird software, no bluetooth pairing nonsense - it just works.

best yearly vid on this chanel already dropped, great job!

The g502 hero nowadays also has a plastic cable instead of a braded cable.

That was a goddamn amazing review/comparison video mate. 10/10.

Finally a TechLead video I want to watch.

The basilik v3 pro is a beast, I have it designed, I browse the web and the game is excellent. I recommend it. You will not regret that investment. It is the most beautiful and advanced gaming mouse from Razer.

I'm a huge fan of the Logitech M305, because it's small & light. I have small hands. When I use bigger mouses (mice?), I get hand cramps.

Thank you for broadening our knowledge about mice technology.....I don't need to mess up choosing the best mouse for almost everything now.

Just bought the mx 3s last week. I am very happy with it.

Nothing beats separate mice for gaming and deving. Being a progamer and a pro programer I know what I am speaking of.

I just purchased the normal Basilisk V3 and not the pro. It's got wire and it's not Bluetooth. So far it's been great and I love it.

Wow, this is an awesome review!

Pretty sure it was the Logitech MX-3 Master I originally got when I got my M1 MacMini while it was super-newly released, in hopes that the thumb side-scroll wheel would work well. It was Bluetooth. How well did it work? It was the shittiest experience I’d ever had, with delays of several seconds between rolling it and getting a response. Was it perchance a problem with their drivers or the Bluetooth stack/HID stack in the version of the OS? Perhaps, but it wasn’t worth wasting time and effort on it once I saw it behaved poorly on my other Macs as well. So I returned it and found the Logitech G502 Hero SE or whatever the exact name, wired, as I was done dealing with Bluetooth. For a mouse, it works very well, and I especially love the free-wheeling center mouse wheel, and it’s a shame they went stupid on that, as that’s one of the nicest features of the mouse for me for productivity: the side buttons and enabling side-to-side motions, I’m just not coordinated enough to not mess that up in fine maneuvering scenarios, and that’s also a problem I found with the MX3 regardless of all else: if you push a button hard enough on the side to register it, likely you’ll move the rest of the mouse the wrong way, so that sucks if you’ve not got that finesse: I suspect that’s a large part of why it was made that heavy as well in comparison to everything else.

Thank you so much for this video!! Funny cause I was in a dilemma over deciding on a higher end mouse a few days ago! This video basically solidifies one of two paths I may take. Before I had two cheap gaming mice, I do a mix of work on my machine: design, video editing/rendering, programming, and gaming so I like a powerful and versatile gaming mouse usually. I saw the awesome productivity MX Master 3S mouse at BestBuy and bit the bullet! I agree it is hands down a top knotch mouse for general office work and development. However, it lacks the style and flaire of a gaming mouse with no LEDs (fair because it's not a gaming mouse). Now I'm contempleting getting a second equivalent design and ergonomically comfortable gaming mouse to match it and not using my old cheap mice. I'll be building a highend desktop in some months and need some new gear to match the upgrade as well! I'm so happy you gave the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro your official thumbs up as the current ultimate productivity + gaming mouse. I can either return my MX Master 3S and get the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro or I can have both, either work for me. The MX Master 3S is so nice I have no problem keeping it for future use as I want to transition to mice with nice comfy thumb grips from now on, no issue with switching between them based on usage but it looks like the Razer Basilisk will do everything I want in a great all-in-one solution if I decide to go that route too. The MX Master 3S has some really nifty features you often don't find in gaming mice that truly benefit office work and multi-tasking like switching tabs on the fly too.

The Logitech MX 3s has a secret thumb button that is customizable with the logi options+ app. A great dupe is the rapoo mt760. I own both and they are great. I love Logitech software it is amazing!

Thanks for this great video! I'm also on Mac, but like you, I think I would prefer the Basilisk, for all the reasons you say. I've given the Magic Mouse a try for over a year and I've come to hate pretty much everything about it, including the fact that it seems to have a mind of its own (and we don't see eye to eye). Cheers!

Just wrapping up my new Razer Basilisk V3 Pro as we speak. I've never had a jankier mouse. Not even macros work properly. Yet, the same macros work beautifully on my Logitech MX Master 3S. The latter would be the mouse of my dreams, if it were just a tad faster. The worst thing is, that I can't find a gaming mouse that offers the same slanted palm as the MX Master does.

Thank you so much for this video. Its like you been reading my questions and answering them 1 by 1... cheers !!

The MX 3S is the latest and greatest for productivity from logi, but it is too heavy for contemporary demands. I hope MX 4 will drop the weight. If you want ergonomics, the Razer DeathAdder v3 Pro is fine (no Bluetooth, though). The best all-in-one (productivity, gaming, ergonomics, RGB lighting, and Bluetooth) might be the Asus ROG Harpe Ace Aim Lab Edition mouse. Don't thank me ))

FYI: For any Linux users, buttons on Razer mice CANNOT be programmed in Linux. They are not supported by third-party software (Piper/Liberatbag) and Razer's official software doesn't support Linux. Go with the Logic G502 series.

Very good review not many other reviewers have mentioned what you did on experience on Macs. I didn’t find that out on my Razor RGB Keyboard until I purchased it. Thanks.

I use the G604 for gaming, work, and going into the office. No issues with the scroll wheel ratcheting. And of course, it's cordless.

Without a doubt - Basilisk v3 Pro.

Excellent, as usual. Your presentation is extremely airtight and logical. Great job!!

Thanks a lot. Very informative and on the point video. It helped me to decide my next mouse

Nice review. Wish it included at least 1 vertical mouse such as the MX Vertical

I have or have had several of these mice. My favorite is the roccat leader. Has all the buttons of g502 plus some. Specifically it has the 2 extra buttons to the right of the right click. These buttons are great for push to talk and other things. Allows you to continue working while still able to left click etc. I wish more companies put the extra buttons to the right of right click because these buttons are much more useful then the ones they put to the left of left click.

I use the Aerox 5 on Mac, it has bluetooth and rgb. Feels and looks good, just not a fan of the klick sound.

I picked up the Basilisk V3 wired, for a discount. Coming from a low-mid end old mouse.... damn. Felt really horrible the first few days, but after a week, I kind of like it. The scrollwheel is really nice for "rage" scrolling.

Best comparison. It's exactly my case scenario. And comparison between mises I actually were looking for.

r the clicks fuckn silent tho?

Very helpful review, thanks

Because of this video, I have just noticed that my g502 wears down on the thumb grip rubber.

Logitech g604 is best among all for productivity. Unique selling point is that switching bluetooth to wireless button is on the top of mouse so I can easily switch between two computers without picking up mouse. Other all mouse having switch wireless to bluetooth mode buttons are under the mouse. Logitech should bring new version of Logitech g604 mouse.

Great video thanks, I wanted an 'all in one' and I was drawn to the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro - I did at first want the MX3s but did not like the form factor, felt too claw like to me so think I will go for the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro as I thought :)

Deathadder V3 is my favourite by far. I'm not that fond of my MX Master. The weight is stupid for any serious mouse-work. For programming, it's probably ok, but for CAD work it's un-ergonomical because of the weight, and the shape is less ergonomic than the classic EC2-like shape of the DAv3. However, I'm using a Steelseries Prime Wireless now, which has an even slightly better shape than the DAv3, and fantastic mouse-buttons. However, it has a horrible scroll wheel (QC issues on several units I've owned).

I always wanted to know what are the best programming and gaming mouse of 2023 as a millionaire ex-Facebook ex-google techlead and now I know. Thank you techlead

Currently using the Logitech G604 which borrows a lot of the G502, wi tmore of a stealthy look. It has bluetooth/dongle connectivity, hyperfast scroll wheel. Plus 8 programmable keys that I use for quick action macros. I guess no rgb, and slightly heavy would be the cons.

thanks for your review. I decided to get myself a Razer Basilisk v3 (wired).

My g602, best ever, is starting to drop chess pieces while dragging. I might give the basilisk v3 pro a shot, but the mx master looks comfy.

The scroll wheel on the MX Master 3.... it's hard to change. Been using it for years now and using anything else just feels like crap.

@TechLead need your help! How you managed to solve the issue of Basilisk V3 Pro side buttons, "sniper" button and the wheel left-right buttons? They are just do not work((( Thanks!

Good video, I will have to check out some of these mice.

I have the basilisk and the scroll wheel has a lot of errors where it scrolls the wrong direction. This appears to be a common problem even straight out of the box.

Has Razr commented as to why they don't support Synapse 3 on the Mac platform? I believe Steel Series, Logitech and others support both platforms and are updating on a regular. I really want to get that "Razer Basilisk V3 Pro" but without the software support, it feels like a crippled device. Thanks for the video!

"It's not a good gaming mouse because it doesn't have RGB"->Clearly no idea what you're talking about. This is not even a serious video

AWESOME video! 10/10. Thank you man!

This was really helpful, thanks! Please do a video for the best keyboard for gaming/productivity as well

DeathAdder V2 Pro still my favorite. palm grip ergo no glossy parts that feel sticky and overall easier to handle than Basilisk shape.

Tech Lead - I thought you would appreciate these jokes had been in the programmer world so long - Rick - California Differences between languages: Ada : You aim at your foot and pull the trigger, but the safety stops the gun from firing. The safety won’t budge until you tag your foot with a sign reading “”Bullet Hole in this foot””, and call the paramedics. You do so, then shoot yourself in the foot. C : The gun comes in 38 pieces, with a set of assembly instructions. After painstakingly assembling the pieces, you pull the trigger and the gun promptly backfires and blows your head off. Assembly : The same as C, except you have to hand-machine all the pieces as well. When you pull the trigger, your whole house explodes. Java: You break into someone else’s home and steal their water pistol. You then make a child gun that uses .38 rounds instead of water. When you pull the trigger on the child gun, nothing happens to you, but everyone who visits your house gets shot in the foot. Basic : You aim the gun at a straight horizontal and pull the trigger, which causes a stream of water to be squirted straight down onto your foot. Perl : You aim the gun at your foot and pull the trigger. There is no explosion, but gravity causes the bullet to slide out of the barrel and bounce off your foot. Lisp : You do a small part of the remaining work involved in shooting yourself in the foot. You then call yourself, and tell yourself to shoot yourself in the foot. Pascal : The same as Ada, except when you pull the trigger a little sign pops out reading “”BANG!””. C++ : The same as Java, except you try to build the parent water pistol using the gun tools from the C gun. When you pull the trigger on the child gun, the parent C gun explodes, spraying water everywhere, including the chamber of the child gun. This causes the child gun to backfire, blowing your head off. Visual C++ : The same as C++, except that the bullets, the gun parts, the tools you use to put it together, the hospital you get taken to afterwards, and the ambulance that takes you there are all owned by the same company. APL : Whenever you pull the trigger, no matter where you aim the gun, the bullet ricochets off of 13 objects and lodges in your foot. The gun has been examined by ballistics experts, mechanical engineers, and even the person who made it, and none of them can figure out how it works. FORTRAN : When you aim the gun at your foot and pull the trigger, a table indexing error causes the gun to shoot its firing pin into your foot instead of the bullet.

Deathadders just fit my hand so good and offer the basics what I want. basilisk as well. I am a Razer person when it comes to mice, they just are most comfy for my hand.

Brilliant video. Loved your sense of humour.

Best explanation. Thanks very much!

Rival 500 remains king for power users & players. It's my favorite mass produced mouse of the last 20 years. Amazing for all game types, excellent for productivity, and some truly useful OOAK features like the cool down alerts and customizable 3d print name plate. Crazy to think it only cost $80 new and now you can't find them anywhere and for no less than $200 (if you can find one. ) Glad I bought 3 of them. As for these "new" mice...It's a sad "me too market" void of innovation. I still see the mx500 influence in these designs...yes a mouse from 20+ years ago for god sake. I still face palm over the pointless free scroll and now all the stupid gamer marketing terms for the scroll "feature" which has ZERO purpose on a game mouse. Oh cool, I can scroll through my weapons really fast for 2 minutes without touching the wheel again......Video editing is the only context where free scroll was truly useful for me, in which case a Logitech Triathlon / marathon mice will fit the bill. The only thing innovative I've seen from logitech in the past 20 years has been the "Logitech Options" app with gesture support...and funny enough I don't think it's event supported on their gaming mice. Demanding more out of your mouse means you're demanding more out of yourself... so until gamers actually start questioning things and challenging themselves this generic crap will continue to reign supreme.

i bought a logitech G 602 in 2016. and it still works great

Razer Naga V2 Pro Wireless Gaming Mouse for macro plus it has 5 on board profiles game changer if you're on the go. The options to macro coding or productivity is a game changer. Things i use often are copy paste new tab close tab bunch of templates or libraries for coding and common cyber security commands Linux commands as well

Instead of buying two mice, one best for gaming and the other best for production, you burn so much money to find a mouse which is good for 2 things but best for nothing.

Logitech G604. It has 8 programmable buttons for productivity and gaming. For example, I like to map cut, copy, paste, undo, redo, and switch app windows. Additionally, I like to map the scroll wheel press to the app expose

Excellent! 👍 Very effective & efficient review. Thanks, millionaire

Exactly the review I was looking for

Thinking about buying Basilisk V3 Pro to use with my iMac + Windows. Important thing for me to know: will the SMART-REEL MODE work on Mac? Thanks in advance!

For me important thing is having switch of computer on top of mouse not on the bottom since I click it very often

As a left handled guy that doesnt like wires and have a big handl, i have and recommend the logitech g903 and the g pro.

Thanks a lot for the recommendation of 3rd party Razer app on Mac. This was a dealbreaker for me.

You might also like Logitech G604. A LOT of programmable buttons with a shift function to achieve even MORE buttons. Infinite scroll wheel, HERO sensor, and runs via a Lightning dongle (NEVER LOSE THIS ONE!) or Bluetooth.

Strip the wired mouse parts and replace the wheel in the wireless one make it abit heavier

For straight up coding you could use a cheapie dell mouse and be good.

I want a mouse that is ergnomic, usb based (no lags and works on a normal KVM switch), and where the mouse wheel will survive the 10-15 years i want to use the mice (environmental and personal issue). The mouse wheel mechanics therefore needs to be all metal. 5 buttons of course. And the mouse easily repairable. And all in less than $70. Bonus if it is a vertical mouse.

great video, but I am seriously invested in the longevity of a mouse...mostly for DCC apps like blender, but I do game dev, so coding, creativity and gaming....multi button is a + but also weight and, most of all, longevity..I don't like to buy a mouse more than every 2-4 years...I would love them to last longer but as long as they have min 5 buttons and last long...I'm satisfied..willing to spend more the longer they last.

You forgot the 5 customizable buttons on the thumb pad for the MX Master!

The thing I hate about the basilisk v3 is the rubber on the thumb rest for some odd reason it peels off this is the second one I own and they both have that issue

Takes me back to the nineties when i got a dose of Nintendo thumb.

"I have gone through the liberty of aquiring like several 100 dollars worth of mice as a millionaire." gotta throw in that "I'm a millionaire" flex ofcourse

You should have tried the Logitech G604 It's comfortable, has 8 programmable buttons, and works for 6 months on a single battery

it's funny and subtle how he just threw the millionaire title.