Whenever techmoan has covered all obscure music formats, the universe shifts to create another one.
@bastardjokemen85182 жыл бұрын
Yes
@dimiturtabakov11082 жыл бұрын
*hits blunt* Duuuuuuuuuuude
@gladspooky94552 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that this never existed and only popped into existence a week ago. MP3s on an SD card? And music companies signed up for that? No chance.
@werlder2 жыл бұрын
Techmoan is not a person. It is a title, a role, a universal constant if you will.
@emanuelepolloni40022 жыл бұрын
@@gladspooky9455 I think that it could have worked… if it came out a few years earlier. And even then it would have been driven to extinction by Apple.
@brick63472 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like SanDisk had a warehouse full of 1gb cards they couldn't shift.
@stevenrais93602 жыл бұрын
Yeah, aside from having to pay for advertising and packaging design
@BrightSpark2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenrais9360 I mean, Nintendo made the original Arcade Punch-Out!! specifically because they had too many CRTs in storage, so...
@ShockingPikachu2 жыл бұрын
@@BrightSpark yep specifically too many CRTs for Donkey Kong machines and I believe a few of the donkey Kong machines were repurposed too
@LOLHICRONO2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenrais9360 and, you know, all the licensing
@warrenlewis43492 жыл бұрын
@@ShockingPikachu : I think they were Radar Scope machines first. The game had been a flop in the States. Nintendo had spent a good chunk of money on them. It would have been cheaper to convert those into Donkey Kong cabinets.
@rienpost31452 жыл бұрын
And everytime I think "Surely he's out of obsolete audio formats now", no, Mat finds another one. Brilliant.
@hartleyc37822 жыл бұрын
I was Thinking about that the day before this was posted
@gregx50962 жыл бұрын
I'd heard of these formats before and was happy to see Mat give them a treatment. 😁👍
@CaptainApathetic2 жыл бұрын
He's gonna end up discovering some obscure failed early audio storage format that was invented before the wax cylinder and lost to time in search for every format that has existed
@vogelvogeltje2 жыл бұрын
Ja hoor
@randallcraft40712 жыл бұрын
Obsolete media, ummm...finds a way.
@neonwired49782 жыл бұрын
"how are we going to compete with free unrestricted music?" Record labels: "how about something really restrictive and very expensive?"
@madeupfred2 жыл бұрын
Neither of the formats here were expensive at all especially for the time. iTunes in 2009 was damn train robbery.
@xxportalxx.2 жыл бұрын
@@madeupfred I remember it was like 3 bucks a song when I was using it, long story short I pirated all my music bc frig that, for a library the size you'd see someone have on say Spotify you're talking thousands of dollars! Nuts
@AileTheAlien2 жыл бұрын
I'm annoyed nobody tried a full-size SD format for music. They're big enough to print album art, they'd be easier to handle, and you could have a collection in a wallets-sized thing, like they sell to hold Switch game cards. People go out of their way to use dedicated devices to listen to music without distracting notifications on your phone, and I'd have enjoyed a proper SD-sized format a lot back in 2008, especially if they had proper cardboard sleeves with good artwork! :)
@xxportalxx.2 жыл бұрын
@@AileTheAlien kind of reminds me of ds games tbh
@AileTheAlien2 жыл бұрын
@@xxportalxx. Yeah, I was going to mention DS (or even the original Gameboy) but I figured my message was already turning into a wall of text! :)
@Omegapork2 жыл бұрын
"Breakup Make-Up" *Next Playlist* "Wedding" Sounds like there's a free reality TV story with every slotRadio card.
@TechnologistAtWork2 жыл бұрын
I'd lose my mind if I'm flipping music and this dumb voice is always there. Incredibly annoying.
@Psevdonim1232 жыл бұрын
What a load of crap...
@urishima2 жыл бұрын
"Wango Tango" Who comes up with this shit?
@xboxiconliker7776 ай бұрын
I think the voice is good for blind people because they can't see what's on the card(s).
@snapsnappist45292 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1980s, us kids dreamed of the day when we our music would be stored on microchips. Cos is was all futuristic and stuff. Then 20 years later it happened and it never took off because it was rubbish. Oh well.
@nthgth2 жыл бұрын
A lot of things that seem all futury and cool are actually mediocre or bad ideas in practice. It's basically "don't judge a book by its cover" with technology.
@yakovhadash2 жыл бұрын
flying cars would be horrible
@totoroben2 жыл бұрын
Must have missed the whole decade mp3 players dominated the music space.
@ultrahevybeat2 жыл бұрын
@@totoroben yeah i mean i remember loving my mp3 player and that everyone at school had one. It was more compact than cd and a lot cheaper since everyone just pirated the music and shared it. This stuff was just way to late and misguided.
@industrialvectors2 жыл бұрын
Acctuuually, if your medium is stored on flash storage, your music is stored on microchips.
@wal2 жыл бұрын
Your dedication to cover all the different types of musical formats is impressive! I'm never shocked with what you find to show off, but love seeing them, so keep them coming!
@AustinSteingrube2 жыл бұрын
The target devices for these were so-called “music phones” of the day. This is right about the time the iPod Touch first made its debut. A 1GB SD card was roughly the cost of an album so you could get music, an SD card, and a reader for cheap.
@TechnologistAtWork2 жыл бұрын
Back in mid to late 00s I had 1GB USB/MP3 player that contained over 300 songs so this would've been a great product for people like me who couldn't afford an iPod.
@redeye0072 жыл бұрын
I had the LG chocolate and it has a music player on it and took these micro sd cards I loved it. I was able to bring my music everywhere I went. Then I bought a iPod video player and the charging port on the Lg chocolate broke.
@sberOntrO2 жыл бұрын
@@kanedaku did that iphone spite ever wear off?
@-whackd Жыл бұрын
Brb plugging in an SD card reader to an ipod touch lol
@paul_grimsley2 жыл бұрын
I’d imagine the word Radio and the inability to skip back simply enabled the record company to pay radio royalties to the artists which would be significantly less than physical sales royalties.
@darkcoeficient2 жыл бұрын
It sounds so far-fetched and evil that it is probably right.
@betadecay61652 жыл бұрын
Isn't that along the lines of how Spotify Free works
@rpavlik12 жыл бұрын
Yeah they really charge extra for being able to pick your song, I suppose a compromise dating back a long time from radio.
@paul_grimsley2 жыл бұрын
@@darkcoeficient Evil is as evil does. The recording industry has long been accused of exploitation. Then again, it employed (especially when physical media was sold) so many people that needed to be paid. The cut the artist gets could never 'sound' fair really could it.
@johnruschmeyer57692 жыл бұрын
It also seems reminiscent of how radio stations play songs "on rotation".
@wiktorszymczak47602 жыл бұрын
I think slotRadio creators underestimated my willingness to skip over 986 songs just to find that one perfect.
@VintageStuff2 жыл бұрын
Back when the SlotRadio cards/players were first introduced, my dad asked for a player and one of the music cards for his birthday. Being the "tech guy" of the family I was skeptical of the format but once I looked into it I liked the premise for exactly the reasons you mentioned. So I bought it for him and he loved it. I feel like if Sandisk had come out with additional volumes for each genre the format would have fared better!
@snesguy91762 жыл бұрын
Yeah I still like this idea. Some people still like physical media. If back then they had made a bigger effort on it and better cases.(maybe like Nintendo DS) then this could have still been around today.
@TomatoTomato9112 жыл бұрын
@@snesguy9176 nintendo is still doing this with their console by selling games loaded in memory cards. except the cards have proper labels.
@VidweII2 жыл бұрын
I will laugh at nothing harder in life than how I did at Mat's palpable disinterest and then obvious disdain at seeing a Chris Brown slotMusic album (2:00). Lovely.
@ForEternia2 жыл бұрын
Not that I'm a huge Chris brown fan, but why doesn't Matt like him?
@funghazi2 жыл бұрын
@@ForEternia Chris Brown's a domestic abuser
@syahminorizan80642 жыл бұрын
Chris Brown punched Rihanna once
@ltbq2 жыл бұрын
@@ForEternia nobody likes chris brown
@ForEternia2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember that from 2009. That was pretty messed up. But since the video is about music, I assumed Matt didn't like Chris Brown for something else other than the obvious.
@Stoney3K2 жыл бұрын
Those slotRadio cards look like they have a hidden partition that contains the actual music. The BIN file is probably some kind of boot loader to tell the player to execute some code that loads that partition and go into slotRadio mode as opposed to regular MP3 playback.
@WalnutBun2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually tempted to buy one and see if that's the case. Edit: Nevermind, people are charging up the ass for them.
@kbhasi2 жыл бұрын
Yep, and that hidden partition probably uses a proprietary filesystem.
@PierceAndjelkovic2 жыл бұрын
I’d be interested what the partition table looks like. Perhaps a dd .img backup from Linux?
@hi-tech-guy-18232 жыл бұрын
More likely a CDFS partition in the scurrility layer Encrypted partition like U3 Portable apps TF Card - Micro SD Card have supported that Encrypted Security Layer for years
@protezaglowy2 жыл бұрын
TrustedFlash v1.0 - microSD
@MrSchimpf2 жыл бұрын
22:14 Wango Tango is basically that radio station's big summer concert show in Los Angeles at an American football/baseball stadium or amphitheater; equivalent to Glastonbury in the UK, but narrowed down to the current pop of the era. Jingle Ball is the same...but in December, and with a bunch of extra Christmas songs held indoors. So they're sort of genres, but more just 'today's hottest hits' more than anything.
@CallumAi2 жыл бұрын
“Equivalent to Glastonbury”, except completely different?
@@that_colin_guy Glad I'm not the only one ... haven't lived in Southern California since 2005 and hearing that made me visibly shudder.
@paul_grimsley2 жыл бұрын
So how do you explain Jingo Wangle??? egghhh?? Eggghhhh??????
@GGoAwayy2 жыл бұрын
Dancing the wango tango is almost as scandalous as doing the donga conga.
@xaenon2 жыл бұрын
8-year-old me on Saturday morning looked forward to hours of mindless cartoons on the television. 58-year-old me on Saturday morning looks forward to a new Techmoan video with just as much anticipation.
@MrTaxiRob2 жыл бұрын
Seems like there was a silver age in the early 90s when Saturday morning cartoons made a solid comeback, and then they disappeared again.
@xaenon2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTaxiRob They actually might have, if all the hypermoms hadn't collectively badgered the FCC into mandating 'educational content' into ALL children's programming. I'm all for education, don't get me wrong. But this approach was pure wrong.
@kaitlyn__L2 жыл бұрын
@@xaenon ngl, that episode of Adventure Time where they fix up the old truck was the first time I finally understood how an internal combustion engine actually worked, but idk if that was from the era of that policy…
@xaenon2 жыл бұрын
@@kaitlyn__L Way, way back in the 1960s, there were cartoons that discussed how things work. Like a steam locomotive, for example. Of course, it was explained in very rudimentary terms that a six- or seven- year old could understand, but still. The thing was, though - it wasn't mandated. It was just part of the show and hooked into the story of the cartoon. The ones I'm talking about, though, were the kids shows that ditched the entertainment altogether and basically tried to replace the kids' parents.
@Tuning34342 жыл бұрын
@@kaitlyn__L Yes, just like how I learned about Testicular torsion from Venture Bros.
@dashcamandy22422 жыл бұрын
If anyone is wondering about the songs played... 22:43 - "Ex-Girlfriend" by No Doubt. 22:49 - "Forever" by Chris Brown. 22:52 - "I Do (Cherish You)" by 98°. 22:57 - "I Wonder if I Take You Home" by Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam (with Full Force). 23:02 - I dunno, being on the "Jingle Ball" playlist I imagine it's a Christmas song. 23:07 - "Show Me the Meaning of Being Lonely" by Backstreet Boys. 23:11 - I dunno. Yes, Cuba Baion has certainly become a little more mainstream thanks to your discovery on the Tefifon. I've heard it used as background music on other videos, and I've used it myself. And then there's Anders Enger Jensen's brilliant cover. If more companies used Cuba Baion as their "on-hold" music, people might be a little less observant over the wait time!
@thebiggerbyte59912 жыл бұрын
Having few controls and no display, some people find the Sansa stark. I'll get my coat. :) Slot radio had its merits - a low cost, long battery life music source that could come into its own where there's no access to wi-fi or even radio broadcasts - on a plane, or in the middle of nowhere, for example.
@goeland45852 жыл бұрын
You'll get your coat,... cause winter is coming, right? I'll be following you :p
@MrTaxiRob2 жыл бұрын
@@craigjensen6853 on long drives, AM radio is your friend. Especially Coast-To-Coast at night...
@scottplumer36682 жыл бұрын
It seems like that's the market they were aiming for: people with no 'net access or that weren't tech-savvy enough to manage their digital music collections. Also, people who just wanted background music and weren't really enthusiasts (which is probably a majority of the market, to be fair).
@MrTaxiRob2 жыл бұрын
@@craigjensen6853 I'm in San Diego and there is one really good Mexican station, sounds like a pastiche of 80s rock sans keyboards, but I have no idea what they're singing about. AFA am radio, night time is the best due to clear channel broadcasts bouncing off the atmosphere. I especially love the drive from San Diego to Phoenix, you get a nice view of the Milky Way without much light pollution while listening to some nutbag on Coast-To-Coast talking about aliens, lol
@Vysair2 жыл бұрын
Spotify have offline downloads and it's on auto I think. Plus, I download my own music so I don't need internet lel (and the library currently less than 5k songs with half a thousand to be download)
@HKT-43002 жыл бұрын
When you want "Wedding" but you accidentally hit everyone with the "Break up makeup" genre
@davidsmith72082 жыл бұрын
I can tell you that value wise the card readers were hard to find in stores, and $10 for a SanDisk branded one was actually a pretty good value. I'm pretty sure I still have my slot music player somewhere around; I ended up using it for audio books, as a no screen sequential player with amazing battery life was perfect for the job.
@qwkimball2 жыл бұрын
I have an ancient Sandisk Clip with a bunch of Great Courses lectures on it that I still use. Hundreds of 30 min lectures, insane battery life, tiny format. Perfect for the use case.
@davidsmith72082 жыл бұрын
@@qwkimball My Sansa clip is unfortunately greatly diminished in battery life. Thinking about trying to open it up and source a battery as I still love that little thing. Always enjoyed shoving in the faces of iPod shuffle people; same basic size and soooo much more capable.
@jonathansabinvarietyfilms2 жыл бұрын
After 3 failed cards in different devices I wrote off SanDisk, or maybe I'm just unlucky, but I've had no problems with other brands.
@NopWorks2 жыл бұрын
"No downloads. *No subscriptions.* " SanDisk predicted the future where everything is locked behind a subscription.
@kaitlyn__L2 жыл бұрын
There were already paid “internet radio” services though
@der4rdi8 ай бұрын
By the time this launched, Spotify and Deezer had already launched in a few markets.
@HRW6532 жыл бұрын
Interesting side fact: That Hendrix album contains a studio version of 'Red House' you cannot find on YT. There are multiple live versions of it, that with all due respect, sound like cats drowning once you've heard the studio version.
@michaelv33402 жыл бұрын
The Hendrix estate blocks everything on KZfaq, even people doing cover versions, so it's not surprising.
@robertschnobert90902 жыл бұрын
@@michaelv3340 what a shame. It should be illegal exploiting an artist's legacy like that after their death. 🌈
@marsilies2 жыл бұрын
@@robertschnobert9090 Copyright law was explicitly updated to extend copyright beyond the creator's death, currently 70 years after death in the US. It was called the "widow's clause" to support a widow and children after an untimely death, but it's likely too long now.
@ryballs45692 жыл бұрын
Is this it? music.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5h8ZK6r19XYfWw.html&feature=share
@mooniejohnson2 жыл бұрын
Normally I'd defend Hendrix's live tracks but you're spot-on. I don't remember when or how I got the studio version of Red House but it *kills*
@weltschmerz882 жыл бұрын
I had a cheap SanDisk 'Sansa Clip Zip' Micro SD based DAP several years ago, which at the time was receiving a lot of praise amongst audiophile types due to its apparently very good DAC. It was a nice little unit, and there was a custom OS called 'Rockbox' that you could flash it with, which had tons of customisation features which weren't available in the stock OS. You could even run Doom on it. Edit: It was a 'Clip Zip', not a 'Zip Plus'
@KaitouKaiju2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, people are still running rock box on a lot of things. You can even run rock box on your Android phone
@tonecapone80212 жыл бұрын
I used a RockBoxed Sansa Fuze for years. It was a great little player. I miss it. I'd still be using it but I dropped it and it got run over. (Only broke the screen). I actually fixed it by frankensteining it with another Fuze that my kid drowned. It worked for a while, but it was flaky so I had to move on.
@MasterYoshidino2 жыл бұрын
Have my Fuze with Rockbox too with 8gb card loaded with mp3s. The plastic back has gotten sticky though so I avoid touching it.
@FunkatronicDingus2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Clip/Clip+. I had a Clip+ which I used for years with rockbox. Battery life was very good and the sound quality was excellent for a player that size. The screen suddenly stopped working at some point however and I've been using a Sansa e200 with rockbox on it since. The Clip and Clip+ could not run Doom however.
@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele2 жыл бұрын
I still have a Sansa Clip+, the little player with 2 colours oled display 2gb internal and SD slot. I bought it because was one of the very few to play also ogg vorbis file.
@Shermanbay2 жыл бұрын
Your "discovery" concept is one of the reasons I utilized Napster 25 years ago. Not only to browse songs/artists I never heard of before, but also to find obscure material from artists that I did know and wanted more of, a function KZfaq performs today. Napster was an archivist and music enthusiast's dream. Long live Napster!
@briangiles89792 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Apple Music.
@tghidsgn2 жыл бұрын
If this was launched 5 years earlier it might've made a dent in piracy. iTunes was already quite well known and the smartphone era was just beginning, which pretty much put the final nail in the coffin for the dedicated mp3 player market.
@kalofkrypton2 жыл бұрын
At the time, my friends and I were regularly using p2p (largely for stuff we owned in all fairness) and had amassed immense libraries. I'd used a few digital players (Sony's A3000 being my favourite) and carried on using a Sony A818 for a time even when smartphones were on the rise. Personally, I think if Apple had made iTunes universal - while possibly denting the perceived iPod capacity wow factor - piracy would've been minimised massively.
@am_pm.172 жыл бұрын
@@kalofkrypton I have a Sony A1000 (smaller version of the A3000). Such a lovely thing. I've been flirting around with the idea of using old Walkmans and iPods again in place of phones.
@kevinmencer37822 жыл бұрын
Not really. Around that time, my dad bought a couple of cheap USB drive MP3 players. It could play music for ages on a single AA battery, for a fraction of the cost of a IPOD.
@wktodd2 жыл бұрын
SlotMusic, must have been a useful way to shift chips that have partial failures
@bobblum59732 жыл бұрын
*_Next Time on Techmoan:_* Mat demonstrates a slotMusic / slot Radio changer!
@superscatboy2 жыл бұрын
From Japan. That uses a different playback speed. And was only used in submarines.
@ForEternia2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@djalienprime2 жыл бұрын
With a ski-slope mechanism!
@movieedge73702 жыл бұрын
For the life of me I don’t remember this format at all but watching how this format works you can make one yourself . Great video 👍🏻
@tipulsar852 жыл бұрын
When slotMusic was released, I had a bar phone with an 8 gig microSD card loaded up with AAC files as opposed to mp3 because not only could my phone support the format, but also for the same audio quality as my 156VBR mp3s. At the time I was using cd rips for music to keep sots down and because we had well over 500 albums on CD and that was just the legal stuff. The mp3s were what I listened to while working on art projects in the school. The omly thing trhat's changed in the intervening has been the size of capacity of the phone.
@barrymaaslow34802 жыл бұрын
For my money, this is THE most enjoyable (and relaxing) YT channel around. Top marks, me boy. Thank you!
@caramelldansen22042 жыл бұрын
"me boy"? are you matt's da?
@TsiolkovskySportingLocks2 жыл бұрын
This is a fascinating video - thanks for putting it together. I bought one of those slotRadio device on a trip to the states back in the day. I think I paid 70 dollars at an airport shop. It was utterly fascinating but a bit terrible... Some of these intros sound like something Mitchell & Webb might say.... was waiting for Numberwang!
@Techmoan2 жыл бұрын
I thought an Airport would be a good place to sell them, I had a bit where I mentioned this…but dropped it for length. So it’s good to know that I wasn’t talking nonsense for a change.
@alanb.morphman86752 жыл бұрын
This content was uploaded a few hours.... how did you comment on it yesterday? What kind of dark magic is this?
@Savannah_Simpson2 жыл бұрын
@@alanb.morphman8675 Patreon donors get access to videos early.
@alanb.morphman86752 жыл бұрын
@@Savannah_Simpson What is a Patreon? And how do I donate one?
@Savannah_Simpson2 жыл бұрын
@@alanb.morphman8675 Theresa link in the video description. Long story short is a service that allows you to donate money to a KZfaqr which helps make up for the awful ad revenue. You k join and set up to donate a set amount each month .You can get rewards such as early access to video depot the donation tiers a particular person has
@EarlySwerver2 жыл бұрын
The Sandisk Sansa players prior to the cost-cutting exercise of the Sport/Jam/etc models were marvels of engineering. Fantastic audio specs and versatile hardware, as realised with probably the most successful Rockbox firmware ports. They must have had a talented group working for them at the time.
@randallcraft40712 жыл бұрын
I remember having a SD card holder that had the cover of a Nickleback album printed on it. I found it empty in a house we were restoring. I never knew what it was, guess it was one of these
@nhand422 жыл бұрын
Listening to random playlists is also my favourite way to enjoy music these days. They were onto something with this player.
@nrgspike2 жыл бұрын
I really miss iTune's 'Genius Playlists'.
@joeblow85932 жыл бұрын
Chris Daughtry started out as a contestant on American Idol. He lost but went on to be famous as the leader of his band called "Daughtry", they went on to have several top 40 hits here in the states. I saw some Stones greatest hits album in this format at Best Buy somewhere back about 10+ years ago...
@_Mr.Tuvok_2 жыл бұрын
He also had an affinity for his hometown. One could say he belonged there.
@SmilyTheMare2 жыл бұрын
i love daughtry
@enemycoke2 жыл бұрын
Yesssss, thank you so much for this video. I thought I just made it up in my head. I had gone to The Walmart with my mom and while she was shopping I was walking around looking at video games and I saw these next to the cds and wasn’t quite sure what it was but then after getting home I told my dad they had “SD card albums now” or something. A few days later my dad says let’s go look at this SD card thing, as he was a bit of a techie, and they weren’t there anymore and I couldn’t remember what they were called to look it up
@BlankBrain2 жыл бұрын
I'm still amazed by the technology we have today. I upgraded the microSD in my phone to ½TB a few months ago. I have over 800 FLAC albums on it, and it's only a little over half full.
@volvo092 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I'll never buy a phone without an SD slot. 500GB will prob cost an extra $300+ from big fruit company, or one of their sealed up device admiring competitors, if storage that high is even offered.
@ErraticPT2 жыл бұрын
Pretty pointless to use FLAC on a portable player IME (unless of course you have the ears of a bat, a player with exceptional DAC AND headphones you need a mortgage to buy), just convert to a decent lossless format and get atleast 5x as much on it.
@BlankBrain2 жыл бұрын
@@ErraticPT I have an LG V20 and Sennheiser headphones. I sync my phone with my NAS, so the format is the same as my home system. Not much I can do about my ears, but use hearing protection around loud stuff.
@michaeltempsch52822 жыл бұрын
@@ErraticPT What is not decent about flac? (I ask, as it is a lossless format (Free Lossless Audio Codec)
@kaitlyn__L2 жыл бұрын
@@ErraticPT do you mean decent lossy format? If so I mostly agree - I carried my favourite albums on FLAC on my phone for a while but only when there wasn’t too much traffic could I hear any difference vs streaming. And now more of them are using Opus while staying at 320k which is, what, equivalent to a 600k MP3? So that’s good enough for outdoors. Especially if using LDAC or AptX HD Bluetooth rather than wired out and about, even if the headphones can distinguish FLAC when wired.
@GlaciaDay2 жыл бұрын
Well in hindsight, if I saw one of these slotRadio devices on sale back then, I would probably get one. 500 or 1000 songs would be quite expensive to purchase on iTunes store as any individual track cost around 0.99 or 1.99. I still remember I quite often decided to cheap out by buying my favorite tracks individually instead of purchasing the whole album. Getting 1000 random tracks for 40 would be a bargain at that time even if you don't get to choose what you listen to.
@Keepskatin2 жыл бұрын
@Glacier It's just an MP3 player with micro SD....calm down and go buy one. Stop using your radioactive cellular. Stop texting and viewing your phone while driving or working.🤕
@mimegaming34442 жыл бұрын
Mate you ever heard of limewire 🤣
@chillstar2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that nearly word for word what Mr. Moan just said in the video?
@GlaciaDay2 жыл бұрын
@@mimegaming3444 i have moral standards and I would like my money to go to artists I support. :)
@GlaciaDay2 жыл бұрын
@@joearnold6881 no it does. Even playbacks on streaming platforms contribute to artist.
@erlendse2 жыл бұрын
I still remember my take on it, when I did see the introduction. The idea is neat, but get me a 5++ slots player. Like a player with 20 slots would allow me to bring a useable collection (or upgrade as I get the cards). Basically a player with 20 micro-SD cards slots under a cover, that is able to read from all of them. Even offer a multi-card shuffle. In the end, I ended up getting none of the players/slot musics. Nor did I see any major multi-slot players..
@mazda96242 жыл бұрын
That bit you mentioned about music discovery through listening to a randomly curated playlist is perfect. I'll never forget back in the day when I'd put on the Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (Playstation 2, 2002) disc in the console just to listen to all the different radio stations and discover new music that I still put on to this day.
@soliton_radar2 жыл бұрын
I was doing just this a few days ago on Vice City. Been going through my emulators and had a blast then left the game on for a bit cause Michael Jackson came on 😂
@HitmonleeDeluxe2 жыл бұрын
Love the Sansa line of mp3 players, been using them since 2010. I still daily drive a Sansa Clip+ with Rockbox for work. I always wondered what the slot music tab was in the menu, but never bothered to look in to, neat video!
@Bandrosonk2 жыл бұрын
I remember around 5th or 6th grade, everyone thought this was gonna be the future of music. But oddly enough no one actually had a slot music album or player.
@Lethaltail2 жыл бұрын
“TRY IT ON YOUR PHONE” had a bit of Ashens energy
@negirno2 жыл бұрын
Poundland intensifies.
@jk95542 жыл бұрын
It's just a slightly out of date music format... it'll be fine...
@Browningate2 жыл бұрын
Celery!
@controltelevision88622 жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see an Ashens+Techmoan collab.
@sohatyi2 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised you're not already an aficionado of Wango Tango, John Peel's favourite genre 1982 onwards. It's best described as a moist, aromatic genre. Some people credit Frank Zappa as the pioneer in the genre but really it took The Grunter's "Let's Wango" to establish it as a legitimate entity in its own right. Taking the best of Viennese waltz, soft rock, hair metal and power ballads along with music concrete, it was particularly popular in Estonia for years.
@danlavelle99892 жыл бұрын
My dad bought a slot radio device and card full of 70s music for his 40th class reunion in 2010. I remember him saying people enjoyed the music on it. I think he still uses it to this day. It was a cool concept for older folks at the time… long before Pandora, Spotify were mainstream.
@tomer45662 жыл бұрын
"Wow, I just heard a great song. Here, take my earphone. I'll just press Skip Track 100 times so it comes round again..."
@Techmoan2 жыл бұрын
That’s the line that the original reviewers took - but that wasn’t really the idea. Instead here you’ve got 1000 songs to listen to. If you prefer to just listen to one of those songs over and over again - it’d be better to just go and buy that one song. Same as if you want to hear your favourite new song - waiting for it to randomly come around on FM radio might not be the more efficient way to listen to it. This is how the music labels will have looked at this too - hoping that slotRadio would encourage sales of the featured songs or artists…just like hearing a track played on the Radio.
@erik33712 жыл бұрын
Didn't really the iPod shuffle do that? And iPod shuffle we loved?
@RetroGamingNook2 жыл бұрын
We got a Sansa player from the local Radio Shack that came with a sampler, I think it’s the Billboard 1000 collection. We had another, but she lost it… yup they are tiny chips. It’s s shame because they are valuable now. My wife managed a bank at the time so it was a mini Muzak machine for cheap. We would also rip our cds and Christmas music for the season to the internal storage then shuffle it all. It was perfect. Still have it, but could never rip the Slot Radio music out. Some day I’ll just record it all.
@kaitlyn__L2 жыл бұрын
@@erik3371 you could go back in shuffle mode though
@igorszamaszow1712 жыл бұрын
I was only aware of slotMusic thanks to your video about a more recent micro SDs with flac files on them. But at least those had album art and not so disposable packaging. I've never heard of slotRadio and that's probably for the better.
@xenotiic83562 жыл бұрын
This feels like one of the laziest music formats I have ever seen, the opposite of how I feel about this video. Stellar work as always Techmoan!
@p1mason2 жыл бұрын
When you note that record companies in 2008 were struggling to imagine their business without a physical media to sell, I think it's worth unpacking that a little. Since the beginning of publishing, the publishing of art works has had clearly defined roles. The artist pay the costs of producing a work of art. Then they deliver the completed work to the publisher who pays for duplication, distribution and marketing. This is the case for books, paintings and recorded music. With downloadable digital music, the value of duplication and distribution is diminished to (arguably) almost nothing. Music publishers struggled to imagine where they fit into the downloadable digital music market because their role was legitimately being substantially reduced.
@AnonymousCaveman2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know this was a thing really fascinating. Thanks for doing a video on the subject!
@Nukle0n2 жыл бұрын
Chris Brown getting exactly the amount of respect he deserves, love to see it.
@TheMadMuffster2 жыл бұрын
And I don't think I've heard robin thicke be pronounced with such derision ever before 😂
@elbert52082 жыл бұрын
Bruh no.
@mr.g-sez2 жыл бұрын
thats what i thought too bro!
@jadedheartsz2 жыл бұрын
I like the guy's music in spite of his behavior
@that1nerdyblackgirl7362 жыл бұрын
@@jadedheartsz im not one to support and promote illegal downloading music, but for fuckwads like chris brown that make good/decent music with shitty human track records. I have illegal downloaded every single one of his tracks before and after his bullshit and I don't feel guilty about it.
@MissMTurner2 жыл бұрын
"Daughtry" is a guy, namely Chris Daughtry who was on American Idol. I saw him perform at Bush Garden Tampa theme park many years back and he actually put on a good show. Mind you, the concert was free so I didn't pay for it, but still enjoyable enouh.
@tophernoswal2 жыл бұрын
The way he listen's to music is exactly why I use Spotify now-a-day's. Their Daily Mix playlist's are basically the only thing I use. Allow's me to hear song's I like while also finding new ones at the same time.
@paulsutton92782 жыл бұрын
Now here's a person that loves the apostrophe.
@kaitlyn__L2 жыл бұрын
yes, the balance of familiar and new is good in those
@OldSonyMan2 жыл бұрын
I've always used 8-track cartridges for 'music discovery', my current favourites are "The Scottish Accordion World of Arthur Spunk" (think of the Captain Pugwash Theme) and "Beautiful Black Girl" by Quincy Jones. Though I often have the same problem of identification as the labels often fall off or fade beyond recognition !
@roberte29452 жыл бұрын
It might seem obvious, but if you can't ID a song because there's no label, searching for part of the lyrics tends to turn up results. That's how I find songs that I hear on the radio.
@MartinWillett2 жыл бұрын
@@roberte2945 Try putting it on KZfaq and waiting for the claim.
@handlesarefeckinstupid2 жыл бұрын
Shazam is your friend here.
@jasonblalock44292 жыл бұрын
I had several SanDisk Sansa MP3 players back in the day, and really liked them. They didn't have the capacity of an iPod, but were tiny and easy to take anywhere. I kinda wish I'd hung onto them, although the internal batteries probably would have died by now.
@DwightKSchrute32 жыл бұрын
Mini Clip and Mini Clip +, those things were great for listening to music while exercising. Super small and as the name implies it came with a clip on the back of the device so you could just clip it onto your clothing. It also had a fm radio which I used alot to listen to sports radio. And as you said the batteries were an issue. I used mine some much the battery would die and not be able to charge. They were so cheap though you could just buy another one if for instance you accidentally left it clipped on your close and put it in the washer 😂
@caesarorzell6002 жыл бұрын
I got a Sansa Fuze when I was eight. I broke it in 2013 so Dad gave me his... which I broke a year later.
@IIVQ2 жыл бұрын
I have two, and used one op to a year ago when the battery quickly degraded to last about 15 minutes.
@MiguelAngel-nf5zy2 жыл бұрын
Well I have one SansaClip+ since 2012, and still use it dayly to hear FM Radio conected to a pair of cheap PC amplified speakers. Battery life is still acceptable. And when it dies I think it still will work connected to the power source I use to charge it.
@bluegreenmagenta2 жыл бұрын
I miss my first-generation Fuze. That thing was built to last -- I used it for probably 6-7 years. And the physical wheel control felt so whimsical compared to an ipod (though it was probably less robust...)
@uzaiyaro2 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes. The good old “this system is too good for the price so we have to deliberately gimp it in some way” trope. Never change, record labels, never change.
@ryanmitcham55222 жыл бұрын
Your completely missing the point. As Mat explained in the video, the price was only what it was *because* it was gimped. Without those limitations they wouldn't have been able to negotiate those prices.
@uzaiyaro2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanmitcham5522 oh, no, I absolutely understand the point. I’m just saying that record labels are corrupt, because they are.
@brialdridge2 жыл бұрын
I actually bought several albums for my wife when it released. She thought it was such a cool format and it was interesting. I actually was sad when the format died.
@lobsterwhisperer79322 жыл бұрын
It was peak torrent use, it was bound to fail.
@ZXRulezzz2 жыл бұрын
I can see the appeal in "get a thousand random songs grab bag" concept if you're into "surprising yourself", but in its entirety, the "music delivery" industry of 00's feels like its stagnating desperately because it's a solved problem. "Let's just take some open media, stuff music into it and DRM it to shreds" There's flash cards, MP3 nuggets, iPods, smartphones, dumb phones with player capabilities; and you don't have to be too technically adept to casually do a CD rip, in many ways possible. Then there's internet services for the ones willing to pay for owning bits and bytes. Bandcamp even, perhaps, where from some artists you could still get stuff on actual media. Minidiscs were on their way out mostly, audio tapes were mostly dead (not that there's anything wrong with them), but CDs were and are still there with us, keeping that compromise of good uncompressed PCM audio quality, and sort-of compact size. And vinyl for those who are into it. IMO, compact discs are "eternal", given that they were produced correctly and don't suffer from bit rot. (but I guess, that's the industry's problem with them. And PS4 owners, idk lol)
@LOLHICRONO2 жыл бұрын
arent basically all CDs susceptible to rot?
@ZXRulezzz2 жыл бұрын
@@LOLHICRONO I mean, only time will tell, but in my case, my dad's entire audio CD collection (200 or so commercial pressed ones of different age starting since early 90's, and a few CD-Rs from the 90's) still works fine. All those CDs, however, are very well taken care of; no or very little scratches, dirt, stored indoors at room temp., etc. AFAIK this production defect affected laserdiscs a whole lot more. Granted, there's also a whole lot of error correction built into CDs (as opposed to LDs which have none at all) so they could age "gracefully"; But I've recently serviced a CD player and decided to check raw RF waveform (what the sensor "sees") with a scope. For many of those discs from that collection it is still in spec, which means CDs (and the player) are still in good condition. So, I'd say, CDs can manage to live at least 30 or so years, and probably many more.
@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele2 жыл бұрын
I agree. CD was so advanced, so technical superior, so well thought, designed and put together, that still now (it's almost 40 years...) we really don't need anything better for our ears and our convenience. I mean, in your home you listen to the CD with true hifi quality and you could put a 64gb or 128gb SD card in your phone for few Euros/Punds/Dollars and rip ALL your CDs to 192kbps (not really worth a higher bitrare to listen on the go with earbuds or at a party with a Bluetooth speaker/boombox) and have your music collection available without paying anything more to streaming service and data connection.
@chevanc2 жыл бұрын
@@LOLHICRONO I thought so too but from looking it up it seems to mostly be an issue with burned CDs and old PS1 games. Perhaps an asterisk of *properly manufactured CDs* is in order? I've definitely had CDs physically fail from the plastic on the inner edge falling apart but that's a different issue. I've only personally had one case where I think the CD might have been degraded, it was a copy of Geinoh Yamashirogumi's Ecophony Rinne. I couldn't get a good EAC rip off it, but IIRC it was an unopened import.
@chevanc2 жыл бұрын
Huh, had no idea KZfaq had markup! Neat. Also by that line about unopened import, I just meant I'm confident it wasn't scratches or oils or data layer damage
@mhoppy66392 жыл бұрын
I think this is about control. People like to feel in control of their music selection at the OUTSET and slot radio takes this away in an overt way. Curated lists on Spotify do something similar but the control remains with the user. As alway, a great vid. Thank you Matt.
@OrganicAct3 ай бұрын
Great video! I remember the slotMusic format but not the slotRadio format. Of the slotMusic cards I saw at walmart, the Katy Perry release stands out in my mind. Three quick comments. At 6:28, techmoan has a SanDisk clip sport without an Micro SD card slot. Sandisk makes an player with a micro SD slot and it. The player is called the clip jam. At the 20:27 mark, techmoan mentions KISS-FM. They are a popular radio station in California and the Jingle Ball is yearly Christmas concert they hold. At the 30:04 mark, he mentions the high prices for these cards on eBay. I suspect the high prices could be due to fans wanting to collect items by their favorite artists.
@crookedbiden61632 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I saw an ad that said "radio for sale, only $1. Volume stuck on full". I thought, "I can't turn that down"
@emdotrod2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why these exist is to sell Sandisk Sansa players. They were good for what they are and in the infancy era of digital distribution, some might prefer inserting these instead of buying music from iTunes. But we all know that a lot of people just rip their CDs or downloading music illegally and it's much better to buy real microSD instead
@Keepskatin2 жыл бұрын
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@stevenrais93602 жыл бұрын
@@Keepskatin proving nutters are everywhere
@Keepskatin2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenrais9360 You and your likes are proving simpleton linear minds like you are the masses.
@firesurfer2 жыл бұрын
@@Keepskatin You're lucky the downvote button is disabled. You would be invisible by now.
@Keepskatin2 жыл бұрын
@@firesurfer The down vote video is invisible for you, because KZfaq flagged you as a troll....which you are, and a racist.☝🏾
@nrgspike2 жыл бұрын
Good god, the voice for those SlotRadio playlists alone would make me want to hurl the thing in the bin in very short order!
@thephoenixhasflown2 жыл бұрын
Yeah for me it's big booming voice or not my choice. Think 80s 90s rock and pop radio.
@belstar11282 жыл бұрын
2000s teenage crap.
@Sb1292 жыл бұрын
I was still in HS when these were out, i remember seeing them in Best Buy and Circuit City but I also wondered what the point was even back then, the slotradio looks a bit more interesting
@donbest50242 жыл бұрын
I remember when best buy sold one of these that had all the Beatles songs ever made on a card for 179 dollars and art work with a book.
@ahujeffrey2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I would definitely love to own one of these, if there were decent classical/baroque offerings (i.e. Bach recordings from top recordings/artists). A brilliant idea that could have caught on given the right audience and variety of genres
@onedeadsaint2 жыл бұрын
another great video! really enjoy the way you present the info. ✌️
@give_me_my_nick_back2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it was a brilliant idea, i mean it did not have to and most likely never aimed for any great popularity the real point is they could just dump lower spec, low capacity cards instead of trashing them...
@phs1252 жыл бұрын
Finally, A device from a time when I was old enough to enjoy music... Let me think how I got my music... We had a DVD player, and we bought bootleg DVDs with 3-4 movies in one DVD, or CDs with like 200 MP3 songs. That was the norm. I remember seeing these weird CDs with only like 10-20 songs, I didn't understand why people would even buy them. In hindsight, probably because it was legal...
@Eli-dx2uj Жыл бұрын
Itd be cool to see a format like this reemerge. It sounds stupid at first, but these days you could sell an entire discography in FLAC on a single card.
@Kumimono2 жыл бұрын
One wonders, if you could make your own slotRadio disks, that would work as intended, sans DRM, on those players. Also, kinda thinking, as well as albums on a flash card will work, I figure Compact Flash might be a better form factor. Easier to handle, not much smaller than a minidisk, and has some real estate for album art.
@highpath47762 жыл бұрын
Easier to sell box set Albums - those readers digest ones in a CF format ! ( the book would have been bigger !)
@etekweb2 жыл бұрын
I mean, those devices were compatible with normal SD cards for music as well. At least their MP3 player models anyhow, and since you could load on your own album in the extra space, I'd imagine it would work on the dedicated slotRadio players too. So you could just put 1,000 songs on a larger SD card if you want, and then there you go.
@etekweb2 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyswafford2462 slotMusic had no DRM, slotRadio on the other hand had heavy DRM.
@Kumimono2 жыл бұрын
@@etekweb I think there's some coding, and DRM stuff in the device for it to function as a, skippable radio. Might be just an ini file or such. I suppose I wonder if one could replicate that sort of, set and forget functionality. Not much purpose with one's own music files, admittedly.
@vylbird80142 жыл бұрын
There is a DRM system built in to SD cards. That's what the 'secure' in 'secure digital' stands for: It's not for your security, it's for the security of the copyright holder! But I've never heard of any product actually using the DRM scheme CPRM. It was a commercial failure.
@Brookspirit2 жыл бұрын
I'm still using my Sansa Fuze from 2008, it works fine, especially using a 32GB sd card. Over 6000 songs i loaded onto it myself, it's not difficult.
@allysonhanks73672 жыл бұрын
Hi
@cScottD2 жыл бұрын
I've been making my way through your back catalogue of videos and was very glad to see a new one, and as always, it did not disappoint!
@Bunjamin272 жыл бұрын
Always amazed by how many different formats are out there!
@SkylerLinux2 жыл бұрын
I find it kinda funny, I've bought a number of MicroSD cards with the SD adaptor and a case; the little case holds the SD adaptor and the MicroSD reasonably well. Worse yet at local dollar/pound store.
@f4rr3r2 жыл бұрын
I vaguely see the logic behind these formats, I imagine it was easy to persuade music labels onboard as they would have had the data to show a significant portion of the market wasn’t accessing online MP3 stores and it would have been reasonable to provide a format to appeal to them. Of course what they didn’t predict is that CD would remain a relevant format right up to the present day, making stuff like “MP3s on SD cards” seem somewhat unnecessary in retrospect.
@stitchfinger76782 жыл бұрын
Aren't vinyls literally massively outselling CDs now? I'd say thats pretty well dead. Just because artists are still releasing music on a format doesn't mean it isnt dead/dying.
@polygondwanaland83902 жыл бұрын
@@stitchfinger7678 Artists releasing music on a format is the definition of the format not being dead...Vinyl may have overtaken CDs in revenue, but that's because LPs are collectable band merch and CDs mostly aren't.
@jennoscura23812 жыл бұрын
My favorite physical music format is CD. I can buy used CDs on Ebay or at a record store. From there I can listen to them on my hifi, rip the CD, or record it on to mini disc for on the go music. It's a cheaper way to get music. If something happens to the MP3 files I can just rip the CDs again. My favorite way to discover music is Pandora. It's not uncommon for me to be listening to Pandora and say "Alexa what song is this?". I found some great artists this way. It's also nice when I don't have any particular song or artist in mind. I just pop on the goth station and off I go.
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting2 жыл бұрын
When you were covering the MP3 market at the time, my inner dankpods was coming out "LOOK AT ALL THE NUGGETS!"
@Sheepy0072 жыл бұрын
Its speaks for the CD how much it just did right 40 years ago on it’s first try when you see all these forgotten formats that came after it.
@hilaryc86482 жыл бұрын
A bone fide late century classic.
@nickk65182 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I still buy my music on CD where possible, but I also have a collection of album reissues on Blu-Ray. Where neither are available, I would opt for a FLAC download, such as from BandCamp. Also, I still use my old 60Gb iPod 5, except I recently swapped out the hard drive for a 4x SD card adapter and installed 4 128Gb SD cards (which cost £12 each), so I now have an iPod with over 470Gb capacity!
@justincarr81782 жыл бұрын
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@KRhythm20132 жыл бұрын
I was searching for a comment like this someone got the reference 😁
@Mayernator872 жыл бұрын
I was a little shocked when you said that you liked the format. But when you explained yourself, I was inclined to agree. It's what I do these days on Spotify. The service will make playlists for certain genres that it thinks I'll like, and I'll gladly listen. It's how I've expanded on my music tastes over the years.
@dailycrittersinmyyard48492 жыл бұрын
I worked for the music distributor that supplied Walmart, Sam’s and others and remember this like it were yesterday. I finally got rid of my (free/promotional) slotMusic player and a bunch of albums away at a garage sale a few years ago. I had to install dedicated 4ft sections in the music departments at many Walmarts and it never did anything. The players were also merchandised in the same 4ft areas. We were definitely trained to promote these as easy ways for the lazy to jam into their players/phones and avoid the hassle of ripping CDs or downloading.
@markjames86642 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things about this channel is when you already own some odd device that fits right into whatever oddity you are covering.
All around the world Wherever you are Dance in the street Anything you like Do it in the car In the middle of the night
@sivalley2 жыл бұрын
I miss Pop Music on VH1. . . The little blurbs were always interesting.
@vermis83442 жыл бұрын
Downloadeo killed the slotRadio star
@LlamasWithiMacs8 ай бұрын
I remember I had a Sansa Clip+ and I always wondered what the slotRadio option on the menu meant. Thanks for sharing this rushed-looking strange format!
@t17389z2 жыл бұрын
This just dug the incredibly deep recessed memory out of my brain that one year for Christmas I got a Sansa slotRadio player. Never used the damn thing because I was gifted an ipod shuffle the year prior which was obviously superior.
@Nomad-Rogers2 жыл бұрын
I wish labels would start releasing albums on USB sticks similar to this do it on by order scale. The music being 24 / 192 for us folks that still want physical media Instead of streaming and there are plenty of us out there.
@vorrnth87342 жыл бұрын
Just buy CDs.
@hunterdavis30032 жыл бұрын
Some groups do, Einstürzende Neubauten has a few usb sticks for sale
@Nomad-Rogers2 жыл бұрын
@@vorrnth8734 CD that is not 24/192, and a SACD player and a separate DAC that has an HDMI in, and a headphone out is way out of my price range.
@vorrnth87342 жыл бұрын
@@Nomad-Rogers you cant hear the difference anyway.
@laurencebois51192 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, I have a ton of pen drives in my car for the stereo as it's safer than looking down at my phone when selecting artists
@thedishonorablewizardthorn24862 жыл бұрын
Woah my favorite band wango tango! Loved their hits such as living guy’s get together, completely regular chemistry, well known death, and more than a lad, daniel goblinman is so cool
@josenadie2 жыл бұрын
The slotRadio business model (1 drive, zero fuss, lots of random songs) has been for years a very successful one here in Mexico...for pirates. Every street market has a stand (between the fruit stand and the betterware stand) selling USB sticks for around 10 dollars or less so you can use it on your car stereo or home sound system. Most buyers are non-digital natives who are in not very familiar with streaming (other than KZfaq) or file download and management, so that SanDisk manager wasn't wrong at all. But that DRM and the need to buy a special device with no track control was a bad call, though....
@ShadowWizard1232 жыл бұрын
A lot of phones have the SIM card and SD card in the same little tray. So good luck swapping in your Daughtry album or whatever. I also recall that back then I had several phones where you had to remove your battery to change the SD card.
@Laurabeck3292 жыл бұрын
trays weren't really a thing back then
@PaulFisher2 жыл бұрын
Sidetalkin’ on your Nokia N-Gage!
@LouisSubearth2 жыл бұрын
@@Laurabeck329 back then many phones had the SD card slot under the battery so hot swapping was not feasible with many phones.
@Laurabeck3292 жыл бұрын
@@LouisSubearth I know but that's not what op said
@alexandrutereify2 жыл бұрын
@@LouisSubearth no they didnt really. Only sims. All nokias that were sd ready were hot swappable. Even before micro sd existed, SonyErikson phones took msproduo and had a door on the right side. Most didnt even need the battery cover removed because they had a side door. Nokia E series and N series had SD doors.
@burakgursoy13882 жыл бұрын
Check the card with the disk utility or some other software that can show all the partitions. Looks like it has a hidden partition likely formatted with another file system. You should be able to mount with osxfuse or under linux.
@chriscutress17022 жыл бұрын
Always informative. I never knew of this format. I guess you could load multiple card contents into a larger card for your actual usage and just store the originals where they would be safe in a small container. The biggest risk would be losing the original cards.
@zatramander2 жыл бұрын
Here's me completely surprised when Part 2 started because I didn't read the full video title. A happy surprise!
@SirRigbyBaconKaiser2 жыл бұрын
That's very odd with the SanDisk Clip, I had one of the original models (Sansa Clip) and it did have a Micro SD slot. This video has made me kind of nostalgic for it.
@davefink23262 жыл бұрын
The Clip was a very good device, the sound was great compared to other portable media, high capacity, and even recording capability which was surprisingly good quality.
@supernova64862 жыл бұрын
The 16GB version of that player had an SD card slot but can only use a 16GB SD card the 32GB one does not have the SD card slot. So you are limited to 32GB either way.
@thephoenixhasflown2 жыл бұрын
Mine was a nice red Sansa fuse 4 GB with SD card slot that could play video and had one of the best FM radios in it that I've ever used. now I have the clip sport which is all right but nowhere near as good.
@meandmyEV2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of people, including me, that really enjoy the randomness of music. That is why I listen to Sirius XM most of the time. Even on a station where I normally know all of the music like Lithium, the frequently play a song from that era that I missed back in the day and really like.
@stitchfinger76782 жыл бұрын
Yeah Its awesome when you've been hearing like Matchbox20 and Marcy Playground and suddenly they drop "Detachable penis" by King Missile
@polygondwanaland83902 жыл бұрын
I have exactly the opposite listening habits, I pretty much only listen to entire albums. I have a specific music player (Shuttle for Android) that allows me to shuffle albums (select an album randomly, play it all the way through, select another album randomly, etc).
@CarrotConsumer2 жыл бұрын
I can only enjoy music made from the cries of the Tibetan fox recorded on a solo cup.
@moloch58012 жыл бұрын
@@stitchfinger7678 Great song, other people always seemed captivated when I'd sing it at the bus stop.
@meandmyEV2 жыл бұрын
@@CarrotConsumer I liked that but then the fox went commercial and the music suffered.
@HardwareLust2 жыл бұрын
I vaguely remember the SD cards with albums being sold, but I don't recall hearing about slotRadio until today. Seems like it was an interesting idea. I'll definitely be keeping my eye out to pick up that Hendrix album for my collection.
@mollybaumann4152 жыл бұрын
I had a few slotmusic cards back in the day. I bought a SanDisk mp3 player, and whatever retailer I bought it from must have been trying to dump their stock, so they were practically giving them away. I thought it was a neat idea at the time. Looking back, it was peak pre-crash music industry nonsense. Physical media, DRM, horrifically wasteful packaging, and the Pussycat Dolls. Thanks for the nostalgia trip. Makes me remember how good we have it today.
@jorgepais28762 жыл бұрын
slotRadio would be perfect for backgroud music in stores or restaurants (like a XXIst Century version of a HiPac) since there are legal limitations for the environments where music can be distributed and played. So they could still made some money for some time more in that market.
@marsilies2 жыл бұрын
Stores and Restaurants aren't typically cramped for space and/or need something portable, so wouldn't need something on a microSD card. Hence, all the long tape play + changers Techmoan has shown for background music. Also, I know the store I worked at in 2007 was already using streaming for in-store music, and there's special services with specific commercial licensing and even customer players for that market.
@jorgepais28762 жыл бұрын
@@marsilies true, but could be the best target to Sandisk in order to extend the lifecicle of the product. Remember that even today are places where is difficult to get a internet connection with enough constant bandwidth for streaming.
@MrNside2 жыл бұрын
The slot radio was pretty interesting for both the consumer and record label side. If you think about it, record labels don't get a dime from actual radio play, but they would with these. As for the listener, how many days of listening to the radio would it take to hear 500 or 1000 different songs? Most radio stations cycle through 100 or so tracks and change them out of rotation one at a time as popularity rises or falls. Even "classic -genre-" stations tend to play the same songs repeatedly despite having an enormous library at their disposal. This would have been a great alternative to radio had it come out maybe 3 years prior. Around 2006, many people were still migrating to digital and didn't know how to make the switch. By the turn of the decade, they had already made their minds up of how they were going to listen to digital music, and this wasn't it.
@eddgreen38102 жыл бұрын
record labels have a lot of dime from actual radio play, don't know about all countries , but in europe stations pay fee for rights to play music
@marsilies2 жыл бұрын
For radio play, the average song length varies from 3-5 minutes, although it got longer going from 60s to 90s, and now is getting shorter. Assuming low end of at least 3 minutes per song, 1000 songs is 3000 minutes, or 50 hours, or 2 days and 2 hours worth of music, at least. A question then is: how compressed were they? 3000 minutes at 128kbps is around 2.8GB. If they were still stored on the same 1GB microSD as slotMusic, that means they'd have to be even more compressed. The alternate is that the slotRadio card was higher capacity, maybe 4GB, but the music bitrate was still likely less than the 320kbps the slotMusic cards used. I think the issue was that radio served most people's purpose for being served new music they had no control over up until streaming took over. Also, people were fine with not having control over the music if it's free/subscription, but it they "buy" the music then people have different expectations and will want to control the experience more. Even many Sandisk players, including slotRadio compatible ones, still included a radio tuner. So people listened to radio while on the go, while at home/work, they streamed Pandora, Spotify, etc. for free with ads, up until they could stream from their phone on the go as well. As for the paid subscriptions, I think people think of that more as paying not to hear ads than paying for access to the music, i.e. people pay for Spotify to stop the ads, since they can otherwise just listen for free with ads. The fact that the online catalog is so vast and always changing also allows for better discovery. So both slotMusic and slotRadio were trying to fill a niche that wasn't really there.
@MrNside2 жыл бұрын
@@eddgreen3810 In America, it's the other way around in the form of bribes. There's no fee for playing music on the basic radio or TV, it was considered advertising for the record. I know online radio pays a small fee, not sure about satellite radio.
@MrNside2 жыл бұрын
@@marsilies I doubt those SD cards were 1GB. Most likely 4 and 8GB. In 2009, I was buying name brand 8GB SD cards for $15 or less on the regular. I was often finding them for around $8 if I hunted for them. If you read my post again, I pointed out that it was too late. Your logic seems flawed considering satellite radio was very popular at the time, and that was up to $20 per month at the time. To this day, there are people who pay for satellite radio, even though they have no control over the content. Not to mention they lose signal under bridges, tunnels, and sometimes indoors or in bad weather. I had a free year of XM with a car I bought, and even though I rarely listened to the radio, I noticed that each channel only had a handful of songs they played repeatedly. I remember hearing the same L7 song on the alternative station twice in an 8 hour period. The same went for several other stations, but that L7 song seemed particularly egregious. A few of these slot radio cards would have been better than paying for XM IMHO, considering you can at least skip songs and listen to music no matter where you are. With streaming services now, it would be obsolete. I am talking about the mid-2000's. EDIT: I also forgot to mention, there appears to be no advertisements on the slot radio things, which make them better than regular radio, and even satellite radio eventually. I believe you can still pay for ad-free music from streaming services today, but again, I'm talking about 15 years ago.
@belstar11282 жыл бұрын
Still not being able to pick your songs was very lame.
@bivas1082 жыл бұрын
In India this idea is really successful with the older generation, it is called Caravan. It has a huge selection of Indian music from the 50s to the 90s, has a built in FM radio, Bluetooth, USB port, AUX-IN and small alright speaker. My sister bought it for my mom and she loves it.
@curiousottman2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting video. I had no idea this format even existed. Thanks TM.