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when buying USED PC parts, I wish I could have AVOIDED THIS! (Season 3 Flip Up Recap)
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Күн бұрынFlipping up from $100 to an RTX 4090 I came into some problems, things I regret doing, and things that were done really well.
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Chapters
00:00 This was a crucial mistake on buying this "gaming pc" for $100.
04:24 Older used radeon cards....
7:37 Just because something is free doesn't mean it's bad... Also this GTX 970 PC actually did come back with a 'problem'
11:19 What I learned about my second time being hosed on a used Radeon Card. And a discount on a 1650 means I can turn a bad situation into a good one.
16:15 RTX 2080 Ti vs RTX 3070, similar price but huge perceived difference on the market. When to sell Setups and not.
19:10 Changing gears to adapt to a different environment.
21:34 USED power supplies and the negative stigma, the secret thunder that charges Tech YES City
25:30 Broken Ryzen pins and a unique situation regarding particular B450 Motherboards
28:07 Though a bad seller's market means you can upgrade your PC for much cheaper too! The RTX 4090 thought train.
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@physetermacrocephalus2209 4 ай бұрын
I know a Corsair power supply that has been running for 13 years 😎
@aeroflopper 4 ай бұрын
i bought my cooler master in 2004 its still working in my daughters pc, and its been on everyday
@TheNorthingNL 4 ай бұрын
Same. Corsair PSU bought in 2012 and will be used in my next build! 😄
@Vitormarques542 4 ай бұрын
Antec 650 since 2010 latest build amd 5800x /red devil 6700xt
@chovekb 4 ай бұрын
Just that they have literally different tiers of PSUs from average quality to top quality.
@dev1anceONE 4 ай бұрын
Wait until some guy tells you that their PSU Tier list(which is mainly based on reviews from other websites) says that you have to replace these PSUs XD
@Thumper68 4 ай бұрын
There’s nothing wrong with what you did with the psi guarantee. You stayed with the 100 dollars that’s all that matters and you did right by your customer.
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
As long as ur garanteeing then thats fine, plus when they come back u can upsell them or they can give u a referral.
@Willbme4EVA 4 ай бұрын
I know I will watch this way more than once as time goes by, It is like how to flip a PC 101. Cheers Bro!!
@MarcoGPUtuber 4 ай бұрын
You know what I never avoid? Tech YES City.
@MelloBellow 4 ай бұрын
agreed
@Willbme4EVA 4 ай бұрын
@MarcoGPUtuber You always find , just the right words !cheers
@tradingnichols2255 4 ай бұрын
Hey, works great by me! Me thinks he's speaking about Rx570 and dodgey customers...
@HazewinDog 4 ай бұрын
The problem with used PSUs here in The Netherlands (and I have no idea how it is elsewhere) is that people sell them for at most 10% off compared to a new quality unit, where I determine quality with the PSU tier list. At that point, it just makes no sense to buy them used. This has been the case year after year, even before the mining craze started. They're just consistently, vastly overpriced. Heck even for higher end PSUs, people genuinely demand around 150 AUD if not 200 AUD for a 7 year old modular 1000W PSU. I couldn't care less that you've paid hundreds for it and want it to have been a good investment. EDIT: There is one recycler that sells PSUs all the way in the north of the country, where I have ordered used PSUs before, however these mostly come from OEMs and the pictures aren't great, so it takes quite a bit of time to figure out the necessary information about the units and pick out the usable ones, again making it poor value.
@techyescity 4 ай бұрын
:( that's a shame brother, JP and AUS and even when I was in the US it was a gold mine for used PSUs.
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
overpriced used parts is a real problem all over the world 😄 like Bruuuuh! what are you smoking!
@gorjy9610 4 ай бұрын
Same here in Croatia, not just with PSU but with most hardware too. Prices are especially crazy with stuff like GPUs, for card like 6600 (or something similar powerful but older) best price you can find is around 20€ less than for a brand new card with 2y warranty. Older CPUs are also something you want to buy new, it's like people don't understand that today entry level 120€ CPU can eat their 5y old not-so-high-end processors for breakfast.
@TrevorM1992 4 ай бұрын
He's right. I live in northern california and people will ask $50 for a used 600w power supply from like 6 years ago. I can get a new one for that price.
@clautos2787 4 ай бұрын
That's my problem with the SSDs. Used SSDs with 3000+ hours of usage are at the exact same price as brand new ones.
@PK01234 4 ай бұрын
Great Job B, Great recap.. Way back in 2019, when you inspired me enough to start flipping, I did it for just over a year and it took me about 4 to 5 mths to earn my stripes (Red flag detection, bad neighbourhoods, very dangerous situations), for the latter 6 mths, i was doing avg 3 flips a week @ $500 profit and made several thousand. The stongest lessons learnt was "ALWAYS" make sure what you're buying is 100% working before you buy, have patience when selling and have some balls when it's neccessary; when in the process of getting hosed. 👍😇💯❤
@buda3d2007 4 ай бұрын
Posting your losses is gold, I have almost been hosed with a used card, there are just dodgy people out there, no ifs or buts, but I bought through ebay so I had them on my side, I did get a refund but I should have picked up on sideways language in the original sales posting like (only used for work and not games, kind of a red flag).
@Lurch-Bot 4 ай бұрын
I ordered some DDR3 RAM recently and I bought what was advertised as 16GB of Corsair Vengeance LPX. They sent one half of the kit. If I had looked closer at the listing, I probably would have passed it right up. I had to open a case to get my money back because the seller just ghosted me. Then I got a Patriot G2 kit that ran fine at 1333 MHz but was totally unstable at the rated speed of 1600MHz. Got a refund on that. Seller was cool. It went into a retro gaming build I just did where it is working just fine, albeit at 1333MHz. Finally got a good kit of Corsair Vengeance Pro. By this time, I had just put some green stick RAM I had in the build I'm trying to sell and boxed it up so I had a 16GB kit for my new dedicated capture PC. The irony was the green stick kit benchmarked just as well as the Vengeance Pro kit, which just goes to show you that expensive RAM doesn't always net a performance increase.
@josephdias5859 4 ай бұрын
i got hosed for a card but i got my money back and i and was able to fix the card and get for free it had some cracked solder joints
@tradingnichols2255 4 ай бұрын
Hey, maybe if the Mhz is down, you can also decrease the latency and get some of that performance back? I had a 2300x that didn't like a 4000Mhz ram chip, and faster CPU's like my 5950x didn't like the 4000mhz as much as a 3800mhz even though it could go to those frequencies.@@Lurch-Bot Now the challenge was to get the post with the 4kMhz memory, but once I did, and lowered it to 3200, tried to be greedy higher 1 more time, but eventually I was at 3200. It worked... .. then I lowered latency a bunch as the memory kit was supposed to be stronger. Well, my KH/s went from 1.2 to 2.5 Kh/s and it's a kick but retro gamer now. :) I only bought the 2300x to try and get a x570 right for a 5800x3d working on it, but no success there yet.
@amartin3893 4 ай бұрын
The RX 500 cards were great miners and put to work in their thousands in farms, and PCs world wide. Wouldn't be surprised if every RX 500 card you've been hosed on had a history of mining.
@dev1anceONE 4 ай бұрын
Even that old HD 7xxx was used as miners years ago, so its hard to buy old GPU from random dude and be sure it will work, and today even used GeForce is not safe choice because from GTX 10xx was also used in miners so u never know if u get card from miner rig or gaming rig
@MrNota500 4 ай бұрын
Yeah 100%. RX 500 series and GTX 1000 series are old and have lived a very tough life in the mine for sure. Same is true for anything up to the RX 6000 and RTX 3000. The used market will be safer in a few years when those cards are irrelevant. What a mess that whole GPU mining was/is.
@gt8200-0 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I bought a used RX 570 4GB that died after 2 months. Lesson learned about buying GPUs from ebay sellers that have hundreds of cards in stock
@patriclcool1968 4 ай бұрын
bought an rx 580 red devil for like $80. I overclocked a little bit and had lots of green and purple screen errors that shouldnt have been happening. I guess a 10 mhz overclock broke it xd.
@Lurch-Bot 4 ай бұрын
I've bought GPUs from miners and from gamers. Guess who I got the one faulty card from...a gamer. Turns out a GPU doesn't cool very well with the heatsink filled with carpet lint and cat hair and neglect is a great way to kill a GPU. Meanwhile, far more miners than gamers actually maintain their hardware properly. Also, most miners are running their GPUs significantly undervolted whereas a lot of gamers just crank that power slider all the way up. I wouldn't be surprised if none of those bad RX580s had ever been mined on. That HD7970 was a total red flag he should have caught immediately and just left it in the box and kept his money. If there is that much buildup between the fins, you're highly unlikely to be satisfied with your purchase.
@ashenwattegedera 4 ай бұрын
In my country Intel CPU's and AMD AM4 motherboards are barely discounted from the brand new price in the used market, sometimes they ask for more than than the price of the part brand new.
@mikekelly5945 4 ай бұрын
I've followed you on this $100 challenge the whole way(and I've been a subscriber for a year and a half, I believe) and found your journey fascinating. You're one of my fav tech channels and also so personable when showing us, the viewer, the "how's, why's" etc. of what you do. So a big thank you from Mike here in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada.
@Lurch-Bot 4 ай бұрын
My own personal flip up challenge will take all year and won't be half as interesting.
@tradingnichols2255 4 ай бұрын
I have an ooops, saw the recap before the final video! Ooops! Still loved it, LOL.
@xkxk7539 4 ай бұрын
Got a Super Flower Leadex Titanium 1600W from 10 years ago, used it in many different setups such as gaming, workstation, server and mining rig. Still working till this day on my workstation.
@michaelwood9866 4 ай бұрын
i tend to have a lot of spare parts so if something like the psu issue were to happen, then i would just replace it and then sell the pc accordingly....i don't take risks with half working parts i just replace them.
@MrNota500 4 ай бұрын
You will sell a half working part? Odd, if it's broke it's junk, can it.
@michaelwood9866 4 ай бұрын
@@MrNota500sorry wasnt clear enough i would sell the pc with a known good part
@itsmedavidd 4 ай бұрын
another thing i'd like to add regarding your safety. Make sure you text someone you trust the address you are at if you plan to enter someone's home. As tech yes city said he almost got into a fight with someone in this series. It's extremely helpful for your family or close friends to know your last location if anything happens to you.
@SirDaffyD 4 ай бұрын
Loved the series mate. Looking forward to the next one. Loving your channel. I bought a second hand RTX3070 about a year and a bit ago now. The guy said he'd parted out his pc and couldn't show me it working. He was happy for me to bring my pc for testing. It tested fine so I bought it. I've since re paisted it about 5 months ago, and also undervolted it, and gave it a mild overclock, and it's running better than ever.
@techyescity 4 ай бұрын
Nice deal and the undervolting will definitely stretch the life of it!
@Hoboswaggins 4 ай бұрын
On the topic of used PSUs.. I don't think it's that they are inherently bad, but rather, if they do, by chance, fail and take your entire system with it, you have to eat that cost. A new reputable brand power supply is at least under warranty and will cover the replacement cost of any damaged parts. There's also a lot of unknowns around a used power supply like how old it is, how much it's been used, has it been hit with a surge, or are the capacitors starting to leak, or is it just dodgy etc none of those are a concern with a new supply. Also, that deal on the 2080ti was crazy good value.
@Lurch-Bot 4 ай бұрын
At least a $40 US Thermaltake SMART 500 is known to be a safe PSU. It will probably brick itself if you ever trigger OCP but still...your PC will be safe. GN tested one not too long ago.
@techwandoUS 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video man, I totally agree on the power supply topic, and the mix and matching aspects of flips. It's legit the only way to extract good value for both you and the buyer. So many times I'll come across a PC that has, say an 800+ watt PSU with something like a 2060/3060. Take that out, swap it with a 550-600 and use that 800 for a better system. Appreciate the video.
@shanemcknight1583 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate you doing such a good recap and breakdown- Always enjoyable going along for the ride with all these builds, and the insights learned and shared are gold.
@brockysthoughts1662 4 ай бұрын
Yeah on motherboards make sure you get the m.2 screws so many boards I have brought and then had to search for those pesky little screws
@NYC-Potatoes 4 ай бұрын
Some heatsinks come with it
@realonepx9885 4 ай бұрын
I bought a set of m2 screws or Asus, Gigabyte, ASRock, Msi, Motherboards (10 pieces for each brand) for like 3,5 euros and Im good
@patrickmcgovern4004 4 ай бұрын
Power supplies and hard drives are two things I'm extremely reluctant to buy used. Where I live it's hard selling any pc once you get above the maybe 450 usd range. It's tough times, people are broke. So I mostly focus on the 400 and under range and with the peripherals and speakers and monitor etc can provide relatively good value and still make a profit.
@t3amb4sh 4 ай бұрын
Some good scores right there mate! Informative video ! As for the PSUs.. . My older PSU (replaced it with a Be Quiet 850W unit, as I bought a 4080), is a Seasonic Focus+ gold 650W, now sitting into my gf's PC (11600K, along with my old GTX 1080 Ti). In my PC was sitting for about 5 years straight (8700K, 1080Ti , Lots of HDD/SSD and RGB stuff), with very little rest. It's about 6y old now, and it's got 10y warranty. This is an immortal PSU , I believe, super good quality. On the other hand , a best seller here in Greece, Thermaltake Smart SE530, was in my gf's PC previously, and before that , in an HTPC that drew very little power. After replacing it with my older one, I put it in another HTPC (even lower energy - a pentium G3260 and stuff from OEM system , with an RX460- which was previously in my gf's PC). It died suddenly 2 weeks ago. No warnings, nothing. Just died. It didn't work hard in its entire life and it stayed in its box for several months during that time. So , used power supplies, aren't always bad but aren't always good either. As you see, though, a good unit, lasts for many years, powers up many systems before it dies (if it ever will), but a cheaper one, with very little use, can die out of nowhere. With that being said, I have a cheap-o one that's working and I keep it to test potential PSU failures. My HTPC now has a System Power 10 , 450W (couldn't get a 350W which is plenty )from be quiet. My server has a system power 9 500W, also be quiet. They are basic but good for the long run! My point is , do not cheap out on PSU, even a lower end system, needs a good enough unit. It needs to have the basic protections so in case it dies, it won't take anything with it. Luckily, TT had those certain protections, it died alone :p PS: I rarely sell my PSUs, I usually keep them, except if I sell a whole system!
@radradR0bot 4 ай бұрын
The guys son thought he was getting $100. Instead, he got $50 and the belt.
@MrEMeat-kk9tc 4 ай бұрын
09:50 Good on you mate. The brother can’t even afford shoes!
@Tamajyn69 4 ай бұрын
I just got a 2080 Ti FE on ebay for $450. Been stressing her most of the day and aside from not overclocking too great (expected on a 2080ti tbh) she's a beaut and a huge upgrade on my old little 1070 😅
@benjamintenhaken8662 4 ай бұрын
I recently had a similar case. I wanted to do a Tech Yes PC Flip. I found a bequiet 500 watt power supply with an MSI B350m Mortar motherboard for 40€ 20 kilometers away. When I picked it up, the guy assured me that everything was working perfectly. When I got home and tried to test the hardware, neither the power supply nor the mainboard worked. I then wrote to the seller and was blocked right away. But since gasoline is very expensive in Germany, it would hardly have been worth it to drive another 40 kilometers just to confront the seller. In the end, I was able to recoup the loss and even make some profit with the finished PC. I have installed the following components: Ryzen 5 2600 : 10€ Enermax PC Case : 5€ MSI B450m : 33€ Intenso SATA SSD 265GB : 15€ Samsung NVME SSD 500GB : 20€ G.Skill 16 GB DDR4 : 18€ Corsair 450 Watt power supply : 20€ Fan Hub : 5€ AMD Wraith Prism CPU Cooler : 10€ INNO3D RTX 2060 12GB : 110€ Total price spend : 246€ I sold this PC for 350€ and made 104€ profit to spend for the next PC Flip :)
@SwiftMCy 4 ай бұрын
+1 to great people. Have met some really genuine guys on the road. Always makes me feel good about the extra effort I put into flips often, even if it doesn't make all too much sense financially. Love the hobby!
@fuzzylumpkins6034 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. We started with a free budget and took less time because we had a 990fx 8150cpu r9 290 with 32gb ddr3 that was sitting as an old pc we had spare that had not been used from 2016. Due to starting with a perfectly serviceable out of date pc we bagged £340 quid for it and quickly were able to work our way up to an AMD 5600x/ RX 6800 (non xt) 32gb build. Not optimal by any means but will see our youngster right through skipping the AM5 chipset while more than meeting his needs.
@AssassinKID 4 ай бұрын
Some graphics card vendors just re-use their equivalent Nvidia card's components and cooler, slap them on the AMD cards and call it a day. Perhaps you anecdotal experience lines up with those kinds of AMD cards.
@ashryver3605 4 ай бұрын
23:30 you will be happy to hear at this power supply segment, that my old pc - which is 10~11 years old now, using a 4790k with DDR3 and an old Supanova G2 850W power supply - is STILL working and going on that same power supply today. And I haven't treated it well... It definitely has a lot of gunk and dust and hair whatever inside the unit... But because I bought a higher PSU than needed, it's never been stressed very much (max 500w usage before with a 2070S in the system on upgrade probably) and the fan turns off when usage is low. I've recently repasted and used my R9-290 within the last year while testing and benching my newer 13900KS pc, and that one is still going strong too!
@gamesbtl6730 4 ай бұрын
How about bringing a test bench, portable monitor and a battery power station to test dodgy components on the spot without risking to get hosed? In can all be housed in a portable suitcase to easily load it in the car boot when driving to a pickup spot.
@techyescity 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I got a powerstation ready to go, will get onto setting it up soon! looking for the hardest motherboard known to man to swing in that boot, any suggestions?
@Hoboswaggins 4 ай бұрын
@@techyescity NOT Gigabyte I can tell ya that much.
@gamesbtl6730 4 ай бұрын
You have most definitely much more experience than me with mobo endurance so I don't really have a suggestion for what would work best for this. Since I don't think many have done something like this, it will be a trial an error scenario so I wouldn't go with something expensive.
@AmosDohms 4 ай бұрын
@@techyescity I don't know what the most durable motherboards are, but I'd go with some of the old AMD motherboards, AM2/3/3+. Basically worthless except for a few of the high end cpus for the socket, and there are plenty of them out there.
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
@@techyescity 🙂 if your testing old radeon cards you have to find an old motherboard that has both legacy bios and uefi bios so u can still see the bios screen and not get a black screen. Also the monitor has to be old enough that it has all the inputs such as VGA DVI analog and digital HDMI and displayport or carry two or three montors to cover all the inputs by legacy cards
@3pokrobloxvideos456 4 ай бұрын
this theory is true my friend has a r9 390x from 2015 and it just randomly one day just died and gave a picture but any load just black screen
@aeroflopper 4 ай бұрын
have they tried cleaning the card and re applying thermol paste?
@3pokrobloxvideos456 4 ай бұрын
yes everything repaste new bios flash undervolting and a custom undervolted bios@@aeroflopper
@3pokrobloxvideos456 4 ай бұрын
yes everything repaste undervolt and a even new bios flash and undervolt@@aeroflopper
@GrabASpriteB 4 ай бұрын
I admire your bravery to take risks and hoping you land a bargain. I haven't wheeled and deal'd on marketplace nearly as much as you, but when I have, I always stand on the safe side so I have no doubt I'll be scammed. I was hosed on a cheap broken Xbox One that I thought I could fix with a simple HDD swap and I was never the same. Seeing your losses and gains has been an inspiration for me to start dealing again and I love that you don't take any BS from the dodgy sellers. I really enjoy your videos about the labors of buying from marketplace and other sites.
@Josh-gu5fy 4 ай бұрын
>BEFORE I LOSE MY SHIT Bryan you should offer out Jake Paul with that energy
@techyescity 4 ай бұрын
Jake Paul would have a rough time in QLD.
@Josh-gu5fy 4 ай бұрын
@@techyescity Straight outta Nerang, the Goldy will swallow him
@ulas8201 4 ай бұрын
Where I live no logic buying second hand pc parts. If it's working they never sale you with good price. As like 20% cheaper than new one. And no guarantee. If it's cheap 100% something wrong with that part. Also too much scam going on. I prefer buy low performance parts new with guarantee. Better than paying something not working at all
@foxskyful 4 ай бұрын
Lot of people also sell because they upgrading including me. You can get 20-40 cheaper with stronger components in some countries. Its always more risk yes, but also can be more rewarded.
@Myself-yh9rr 4 ай бұрын
The thing about power supplies is true! I have an 800 watt that has been used on 3 motherboards and no trouble yet. Just watch out for cheap supplies and ones that don't supply enough power. You are better off to get a good one that is a bit of an overkill than a generic one with questionable quality components. Just beware that sometimes when a power supply fails it can fry a lot of things connected to it. In even worse and hopefully rarer cases they can burn a house down! Get a good brand that is rated for a little bit more than you really need and hopefully you won't have these problems! A power supply that is a huge overkill on how many watts it can supply should not damage things if it is hooked up properly. If you have a Dell, HP or other prebuilt system make sure that the power supply in it is not some weird proprietary thing. Sometimes Dell does that and sometimes HP uses similar parts. Just make sure to remind Dell that Apple called and wants their proprietary parts back!!
@TheGameBench 4 ай бұрын
I recently got a good deal on a 3060 12GB off eBay. When it showed up, two of the display ports weren't working and it was running at 80 degrees with the fans at 100%. Thankfully, the seller agreed on the $20 partial refund, and I was able to fix the display ports, which I can see how he didn't know about those, but he had to know it was overheating. I don't know... maybe he thought it was just running normal for a Strix with an overkill cooler. After a re-paste... it's now at 57 degrees, and much quieter. Always a risk to buying used. Too bad some people are just out to screw other people. If it weren't for my local prices on GPU's, I don't know if I would buy them locally.
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
🙂 Microcenter sells used refurbished video cards now, if they don't test out well for u you simply return it and try another one
@abercrombiepatrick 4 ай бұрын
love the deals and flip up videos
@SushikiIIer 4 ай бұрын
I deffenitly agree with GPU's needing to be tested. There is another channel "nerd on a budget" who does a good amount of mobile IT & used part hunting and he runs a pretty slick testing setup out of the back of his car. He just uses a simple ATX tower & portable monitor from the back of his car with a UPC that he just charges before heading out to pick stuff up.
@samiusdad9050 4 ай бұрын
ewaste is the worst thing ! That's why I love your channel, because you're an advocate against ewaste and you're showing everyone that you can all combat it a little bit. Trying to fix things before chucking it in the bin.
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
yup I don't like ewaste either, Adopt a Used PC 😇
@tradingnichols2255 4 ай бұрын
My feedback is that I really enjoyed the entire journey. That said, when you said 1 of the videos was your largest production ever? Oh yeah! I loved that one especially! Great job!
@cracklingice 4 ай бұрын
Hey Bry, you can still start with $100, you just don't have to buy/sell a whole PC with it.
@rathstar 4 ай бұрын
Great video, its great hearing this retrospective and the things that went bad and well. With the economic squeeze I'm seeing more scams happening and over inflated prices for old tech. I just have to know the worth of the parts and stay strong on what I'm willing to pay. And yeah, seeing things running is a must nowadays. I've also been one of those that shied away from buying used psu on their own, but after having a few they have always worked fine and the price on the used market is really cheap.
@banaanhaan 4 ай бұрын
You could do it with 100 USD instead, which also adds up to 150 AUD like you mentioned.
@Willbme4EVA 4 ай бұрын
at this time and point it would be ok. We have no idea as to what the exchange rates will be the next time the flipping episode will begin.
@rbalcarse13 4 ай бұрын
5:50 It is a huge gamble when buying polaris/vega, gtx 10 series and prior cards as they are maybe on their final years or days in their life span. I experienced these problems and my gt240 is the only card left working on my stack of old GPUs. Also try having a trusty UPS and a cheap usable PC setup at the back of your car. It may save you some time and hassle because you can test the part/s without leaving the seller's place.
@Edward135i 4 ай бұрын
21:54 I have a Corsair AX860i that been running continuously since 2012 that's seen 4 different computer builds in its life, don't underestimate a good PSU.
@antonhei2443 4 ай бұрын
2 second hand HD6850 I bought from different people started fire on the first benchmark after just 2 minutes of use. No issues with the older ATI 9250, HD5770 or my newer R7 260 and 270X.
@Beary98 4 ай бұрын
I do a several month long flip once or twice a year, always binge your channel when I do. Recent pickups were an old 4790k on a tomahawk z87 boardwith sli'd 1080tis for $160. Then a 5800x for $100, bent a couple pins back and she sings now.
@kevlarandchrome 4 ай бұрын
I've been building and reselling PCs for closing on a decade now, I've NEVER had a computer come back for a power supply issue. I've also never had a power supply fail in any box I've built for myself, friends, or family members.
@danieljackson5497 4 ай бұрын
As a gamer myself, before buying and selling anything, i would ask the question, "Would i buy that"... if the answer is no, then id stay away. Id never buy a used keyboard and mouse, id never buy a square monitor, id never buy anything above 1000 because id just build it myself if i have that money
@wingmanemu3473 2 ай бұрын
the rx 470-480-570-580 had really good mining performance back in the day so they were used very heavily for mining. thats why you see so many duds and scammers trying to sell them
@dualbeardedtech 4 ай бұрын
Hey Brian, how do you determine what prices to put on youre PCs? I usually add 15% to 20% to my cost. Depending on the hardware.
@NYC-Potatoes 4 ай бұрын
That's the usual just depends on your area
@dualbeardedtech 4 ай бұрын
@@NYC-Potatoes that's what I thought. Thank you
@HazewinDog 4 ай бұрын
from what I can tell, he happily adds more on top, simply listing the PC for its value.
@techyescity 4 ай бұрын
I base on a few things, what the competition is selling around my area, the price performance vs new and of course how much I paid for the build.
@dualbeardedtech 4 ай бұрын
@@techyescity Thank you for clearing that up!
@jamescampbell6728 4 ай бұрын
I feel like power supplies will either last forever or will die very soon. That is why you see so many power supplies have a 10 year warranty. Because they know it won't die before that. So buying a high quality used power supply is a better idea that a low quality new one
@PhysicsOperator 4 ай бұрын
Tech yes please another video
@seatslider 4 ай бұрын
You’re a legend. I found you years ago in my beginnings of pc building. Now I’ve got some used parts in my PC and happy with my setup. I just stay tuned into to your show cause your a legend. Do you keep a price list of what you value certain items in the used AUD market?
@WhaleRacer 4 ай бұрын
I let a friend use an old system for a while with a Sapphire HD 7950 and apparently the card just died on him recently. Card was BIOS flashed and modded and was pushed hard for some benchmarks in its lifetime before I flashed more reasonable power targets and clocks to use as a media PC. It may just be the end of life for parts of this generation.
@RiftRavingRogue 4 ай бұрын
My daughters are both running my old RX480(XFX) and 580(Power Color Red Devil).. I did crypto mine on both of those cards too but not on an industrial level.
@Zalionn 4 ай бұрын
I think some people forget that some of these power supplies have long warranties. I was gonna sell my Evga 750 and realized it had a 10 yr. warranty and I'm like "holy shit, I would rather keep this as a back up...and if it breaks then I'll just RMA it". Of course, people who buy them can probably do the same, but not sure how that works for second buyers.
@marstedt 4 ай бұрын
That's some stylish [mic holding] you got there. ;)
@antondovydaitis2261 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your journey. Subscribed, looking forward to the next campaign.
@janos1993 4 ай бұрын
I love your used parts content and I have been buying some used parts and even building a PC with that hardware. People don't realise the fact, that you can build a r5 5600/rx 6600 (m. 2 ssd, etc.) for like 350 bucks in my country. I have a question for you: what are the rules you play buy when buying used hardware (be it the way you talk with sellers or potential buyers, or even testing parts, do you have a standardised process?).
@Turtlecuber 4 ай бұрын
yeah i got a used evga supernova 1300w g2 for 50 in 2020 and its still running strong been in through multiple thunder storms even having a bolt of lightning knock out the power from near by
@adamlaker7106 4 ай бұрын
My Nephews PC had a gpu issue I was stumpped with, after playing games one night, woke up in morning went to play same game and fps bombed (70-120 usual all of a sudden 15-20). any game he tried it would be laggy and no fps or crash... but he could run 3d mark and hevean benchmarks with high fps decent temps and above avge score... swapped gpus with a spare i had no issues 14 months later....
@drunksupportcharacter 4 ай бұрын
Yeah i totally get the power supply thing, If your building for yourself, sure you want something new and specific, but if its not your main build and something that is an alternative, I do like the used market for specifically cheap gold and better PSUs, because its highly likely they have just been used in a single build and someone is just upgrading.
@ewasteredux 4 ай бұрын
I really enjoy hearing your thought processes behind what you buy versus what you stay away from. This is invaluable knowledge based on practical experience that most of us do not have. I will say that I have had some success doing heat gun re-flows on AMD cards of course this tends to be a temporary solution.
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
🙂 i suggest avoiding most older Radeon Cards unless its one of those special flashed ones that work in a Mac Pro then yeah pick all those up.
@fteoOpty64 4 ай бұрын
Jesus Brian. A potential punch up for $50?. Not worth that hassle mate!.
@Lauterec 4 ай бұрын
Something like a Jackery and a testbench in the trunk is probably the meta for testing used parts.
@therealericjackdaniels 4 ай бұрын
@5:45 I would have a hard time ever thinking that GPU would work lol It's sad when folks neglect their equipment and it results in (often premature) failure.
@chibonchibon3967 4 ай бұрын
Yes a dedicated video of a used power supply will be nice, and those are words I never thought I would say in my entire life 😂
@Willbme4EVA 4 ай бұрын
It is crazy how many PC's are out there and have never been used/ to any where near being used. This is a thing.
@Lurch-Bot 4 ай бұрын
I have a bunch of mining used PSUs that are still going strong. You really can't go wrong with an EVGA PSU.
@absolutesadlad2297 4 ай бұрын
I agree with the trend with recent PSUs. From basically 2020 onwards there have been issues with certain batches coming out of companies like infineon etc and other component manufacturer's.
@lloyde80 4 ай бұрын
I just had a 5800x with some broke pins ended up using a bread tie wire cut and striped for pins. Got it working and its married to that board now. When i am done with it probaly just pass it down to my kids to use.
@bstaznkid4lyfe392 4 ай бұрын
I hardly buy used pc parts now a day..I had bad luck three times in the past..It just stopped working..
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
🙂 its fun, i only do it with no expectations, if it works great, if it doesnt oh well
@2528drevas 4 ай бұрын
I usually use new power supplies, but at lower price points I'll put a used power supply in a system after I've tested it. I haven't had one come back yet. I bought a GTX 960 and a GTX 950 from a guy for a cheap price, but the GTX 950 wouldn't run stable no matter what I did. Fortunately, at the time what I paid him was what a GTX 960 was going for.
@CUSTARDP00DLETK 4 ай бұрын
Hey Brian - solution for getting hosed- buy a cheap powerstation ($500) from a store like Jaycar or Anaconda to run a basic pc to quick test GPU's / pc parts in the future in your car.
@d4nith3 4 ай бұрын
Just go for Seasonic power supplies, they offer now 12 years warranty. Just insane.
@Cbamptronious 4 ай бұрын
Old radeon cards draw soo much power and always had vram issues. I gave up on them pretty quick.
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
you can't see the bios screen with them
@jacksonbtb571 4 ай бұрын
I just checked and i have 5 polaris gpus that are dead/have issues. Some of them are in great shape cosmetically, but they don't install drivers. Already wasted hours flashing different vbios on all the cards. I agree that skipping these is probably a good idea! The gtx 10 series seems to hold up a lot better so thats about the oldest cards is still buy.
@iamspencerx 4 ай бұрын
I used to have a crappy no name PSU that with a fan that started making noise after 4-5 years so I just jammed the fan and kept the pc running, with hot summers where the temperature is around 30°C inside, it just didn't care
@d4mb20 4 ай бұрын
Some rx580s require the use of CSM and won't work in modern systems, the workaround is to flash a UEFI enabled custom bios.
@TeamTheAces Ай бұрын
Im just impressed you can get a pc with a 760 to even sell in the first place. If i built that in my market, its dying with me.
@dianaalyssa8726 4 ай бұрын
Another problem is inflation, the purchasing power of 100 (AUD in this case) isn't going to be the same as 100 years ago, in this series anyway. I think it's fine if the next one has a higher starting point.
@gaunterodimm3606 4 ай бұрын
Bryan, the thing with used PSUs is it's relative to its age and to the age and cost of the other hardware you pair it with. PSUs usually have a relatively safe lifespan under normal use of 7-10 years, 15 years on high end models, might last way longer, might not. So pairing, for example, an 8 year old PSU with 6 year old hardware is generally fine because the PSU will still probably outlast the other hardware and there is less cost on the other hardware involved it's risking. Using new(er) hardware with a 10-15 year old PSU is a bad idea because it's way more likely the PSU will not out last the life of the rest of the hardware and can take out other hardware when it goes.
@s13sil80 4 ай бұрын
Why not $200 starting budget? That way, you could buy a PC like that, and still have left over for a power supply if you need it, or whatever you come up against. It's not an unreasonable increase given inflation/challenges.
@kr00tman 4 ай бұрын
Soldering amd cpus, once you practice enough, its not too bad, alot of times people break pins off the edges of the cpu and they are reparable. You can also get broken pin amd cpus pretty cheap so its really no risk if you botch the repair, earlier this week I just repaired a 5800x3d I paid 27 bucks for.
@POLARTTYRTM 4 ай бұрын
I wish I lived in a place where you could buy used stuff. Many people go "missing" (you know what that means) when going to meet someone to buy something used. It must be such a fun pleasant hobby and second source of income.
@HazewinDog 4 ай бұрын
I would like to as well, but the cost of fuel here makes it cheaper to just have people ship the item, unless there happens to be a good deal close by. It's not as fun when it's online, but since I also don't have a car of my own right now, I also have limited access to a car.
@POLARTTYRTM 4 ай бұрын
@@HazewinDog here it's not fuel, it's just that the country is exceedingly dangerous full of people with really, really bad intentions.
@ashenwattegedera 4 ай бұрын
Wow, What kind of country are we talking here, I live in a 3rd world country and I've always bought used stuff and I've been fine.
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
tell them I need to see it tested, if they say NO then keep it moving
@POLARTTYRTM 4 ай бұрын
@@MrSamadolfo problem is, they will show you that they actually have it and it works, but the moment you pay or they send you, they will either send a brick, not send anything, or you get mugged at gunpoint or worse if you meet in person even in public spaces. So yeah, not a lot to do.
@jeanremydorval3785 4 ай бұрын
I stop buying GPUs like Rx 580 and older. I got scammed to many times the crazy thing it's only Radeon cards
@thesi9690 Ай бұрын
Recommendation is to buy old ketchup and mustard cables pcus, then ad on a 15 ddollar set of white sleeved cables and u have a new psu
@mr.arocenastech 4 ай бұрын
Nice recap of your Season 3 flip up challenge. The RTX 3000 series sell very well here too compared to basically everything else. Been sitting on an amazing RX 6800 system that offers so much performance for the price for a while now with no luck. I haven't had any issues with RX 580s/570s failing on me (even after buying them from miners) but another reason to avoid RX570/580 is that AMD no longer does driver updates for them. Which is a bit unfortunate as they are very good 1080p gaming GPUs.
@Budgetiers 4 ай бұрын
Love your stuff man. Great journalistic PC flipping. 😎
@ausfoodgarden 4 ай бұрын
Yep AU$150 is around US$100 so it's still a nice starting point. Mistakes were made but results still achieved. Go Tech YES City !
@n0.nam358 4 ай бұрын
Today i have bought rtx 3070 inno3d just for 225$ in Poland, found it on Facebook Marketplace and owner gave it to Lombard for selling. It looks just like new. Paid 50zl more for testing it in local repair. Waiting to pick it up in evening. Going to buy PC this summer.
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
🙂 3070 is a good decent card, just make sure your power supply is strong and reliable because it needs a little bit of juice to get it going, I believe it uses TWO 8pin plugs so make sure u get a good power supply with TWO video plugs
@michaelwood9866 4 ай бұрын
also brian most pc gamers/builders do not have psu testers as that's not common among builders that i have ever seen or been around.
@MrSamadolfo 4 ай бұрын
🙂 no they don't , they don't even have one of those cheap Voltmeter ones that cost 30 bucks, make it make sense? I rarely see anyone use a Watt Meter either? 🤔
@WASD-MVME 4 ай бұрын
I mean sometimes the person could be genuine about it working the last time they used it but I got to feel like that person would generally give you your money back. No problem because it is. Hey it was honest mistake you know might have been 6 months a year ago when I used it and now it's not. Hey you know
@Alpha-ms9nj 4 ай бұрын
Ah more good info man and that is why I really appreciate you and this channel. You must put a lot of miles sourcing your stock and you end up most times having to take sellers at their word and sometimes it doesn't work out. I remember that episode with the whole GPU in the mailbox bit and wow things got testy there. How difficult would it be to set up some portable test bench in your ride? Perhaps a solar backup generator or a battery with an inverter? Keep up the solid uploads man love this channel.
@notanapplefan 4 ай бұрын
i had a 900 wat psu gold evga it was 10 years old when i gave it to my mining friend jerry still happly running away in his mining rig haha
@DrForbin001 4 ай бұрын
Brian, I have built several PC's with mixtures of new and used parts. With the exception of one build all of the used power supplies were used. As for the GPU'S, none were new, and they never had an issue with Radeon or NVIdia used. Software has always been an issue, mostly NVidia 🙄.
@NYC-Potatoes 4 ай бұрын
I haven't used a new PSU in months most builds I did were corsair no complaints from anyone and my personal systems have them too
@aleksandersaski5387 4 ай бұрын
One thing is puzzling me for a long time. What does BFTYC stand for?! "Big fu**ing TYC"? :P
@ArtistSoftwareEngineer 4 ай бұрын
I believe the first time Bryan did it it was on a Black Friday 😁
@jamesdevine564 4 ай бұрын
when does the mail time parcel episode coming??
@Mopantsu 4 ай бұрын
The RX400/500 series were EXTREMELY popular in both the first and second crypto mining boom. I believe this is the reason why they fail so often.
@madmatt2024 4 ай бұрын
It's still crazy to me that you can get the deals you do. I just spent a little over $65US to get my brother's old Phenom II gaming PC up and running just so he could play Minecraft again and you spent the equivalent of $53US on a whole working 2nd gen i5 system that just needs a PSU.😖
@spentcasing3990 4 ай бұрын
Here in Vancouver, people sell garbage for more then what it costs for something new
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