Tekken 7 - Crushes, Hitboxes & Evasion

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That Blasted Salami

That Blasted Salami

7 жыл бұрын

An in depth examination of the Crush System; High, Low and Powercrush, written by tournament veteran Dinosaur. This tutorial also covers Hitbox and Hurtbox Interactions, Rage Arts, and some general Tekken jankiness.
Wind-up frames for Crush moves and Rage Arts: imgur.com/a/Y83Fi
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Tekken 7 Frame Data: rbnorway.org/T7-frame-data/
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All tracks were from the Tekken 5 soundtrack.

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@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
Some minor corrections and clarifications: <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="525">08:45</a> <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="635">10:35</a> <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="685">11:25</a> Most moves in Tekken do 107-110% damage on standing opponents. Fast moves like jabs are about 107, and slower moves like Bryan's b+1 are towards the higher end (110-ish). Powercrush and Rage Arts do 100%, however Rage Arts seem to have some additional scaling on top of this, perhaps also related to move speed. Results are quite inconsistent, and unfortunately it seems impossible for now to get empirical data on the values. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="541">09:01</a>: Add Alisa to the list of i13 high Rage Arts. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="592">09:52</a>: Eddy's Rage Art was just patched not to break walls and balconies anymore. Apparently this was never intended. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="671">11:11</a> Low jabs start crushing at the 4th frame, not 5th.
@sten360
@sten360 7 жыл бұрын
9:01 Alisa's is the same, I believe.
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
Yes it is! Cheers.
@lwazinkasawe3887
@lwazinkasawe3887 7 жыл бұрын
"Claudio's DAH! Lars's DYEAH" I died XD
@yourboyrussell6738
@yourboyrussell6738 6 жыл бұрын
Lwazi_NK47 4:12 You're not the only one! 😂😂
@AleksTheLittleOne
@AleksTheLittleOne 6 жыл бұрын
how to punish claudios DAH move ? i get beaten all the time when opponent do this annoying move
@yourboyrussell6738
@yourboyrussell6738 6 жыл бұрын
Aleks ƬHeⱲΩLF Jab him out of it or use a Power Crush. It's -13 on block.
@akiamendoza8859
@akiamendoza8859 5 жыл бұрын
It's called a crush because in real life they also don't connect when you hit on them
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@Stryfe52
@Stryfe52 2 жыл бұрын
Tech Ken
@Joseju
@Joseju Жыл бұрын
I've been playing for years and I've just learned about animation elasticity. This saga just keeps on giving. It's a lifetime of learning.
@TKBadMoon
@TKBadMoon 7 жыл бұрын
Your editing makes these so nice dude.
@Susano19
@Susano19 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for another great video, this channel is producing the highest quality tutorials for Tekken I've found so far. Only other person who comes close is MainManSwae. Every time I watch one of these videos it feels like I am shaving off months of work when it comes to understanding a lot of these concepts and systems.
@natezen2445
@natezen2445 7 жыл бұрын
The best informative Tekken Channel ALIVE.
@krishbhalla4789
@krishbhalla4789 7 жыл бұрын
Nate Zen Yeah, along with TheMainManSWE and Frame Whisperer Tekken
@COMMANDLIST1
@COMMANDLIST1 7 жыл бұрын
love every vid u make, very informative and well put together....looking forward to dragunov, king and miguel character breakdown
@coleworld8265
@coleworld8265 7 жыл бұрын
This was a great video, so well put together and informative. All the examples were great. Good work, keep it up. Tekken community appreciates it.
@1bz2002
@1bz2002 7 жыл бұрын
brilliant tutorial , awesome work in helping new and veterans alike. keep up the good work bro
@Limca223347
@Limca223347 7 жыл бұрын
Im blown away at the attention to detail you guys went in to create this tutorial! Instant Subscription!
@TheTibasco
@TheTibasco 7 жыл бұрын
Man this video is so freaking good! Very informative even for veteran players. Liked and subscribed.
@DreadPyke
@DreadPyke 7 жыл бұрын
What a fucking gem of a channel... Can't wait for a Nina guide.
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers man! For now please check out the written guide: docs.google.com/document/d/1HAqCk5M_xbK8A-YVcyYwnOfCxa4EF52Y7VID3C_H4l4/edit#
@DreadPyke
@DreadPyke 7 жыл бұрын
That Blasted Salami Thanks so much man, I'll check it out now. Are you eventually going to release guide videos for all characters?
@lfieldsjr13
@lfieldsjr13 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you made this I was arguing on another video about a year ago that you couldn't crush a mid but you could duck or evade it. Wish I had your video editing skills.
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers man! Glad you liked it.
@huffee
@huffee 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative, answered a lot of questions I had.
@LobotomyPatient
@LobotomyPatient 6 жыл бұрын
I've noticed sometimes with characters with rage arts that make them jump, e.g. M. Raven, Lili and Eliza, if they rage art when the opponent does a high crush, the rage art will go straight over their heads.
@shivansh901
@shivansh901 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, super informative with perfect examples in regular and slow-mo.... Love your work buddy.
@Hypoo
@Hypoo 6 жыл бұрын
Great tutorials for a newbie to Tekken 7. Really learned a lot, and here's hoping I can apply them properly. Time to train!
@djschweiger
@djschweiger 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I learn so much from your Videos. Can't wait for the Feng Guide.
@shawncoakley5370
@shawncoakley5370 7 жыл бұрын
great video I've been playing since 2 and this content is great for any player of any skill 😀
@MaulLerGamer
@MaulLerGamer 7 жыл бұрын
I watch this video like... 5 times now Love it. Looking forward to a new video plsss
@bumpyface228
@bumpyface228 7 жыл бұрын
This is good. This explains y I get hit by lows when it looks like my jab is going to connect.
@vulapa
@vulapa 7 жыл бұрын
I also get confused by Claudio's DAH and Lars' DYEAH.
@vjuttujee5028
@vjuttujee5028 7 жыл бұрын
Most impressive, I found zero mistakes. Great editing and everything. Only things wish you had included were Yoshimitsu's RA ub1+2 damage reduction and numerous active frames as well as Alisa's RA's numerous active frames. But regardless this is without a doubt the best Tekken Tutorial I have seen.
@robobishnu
@robobishnu 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making best videos guides for tekken 🙏
@HobbesKarate
@HobbesKarate 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing and very informative
@TheDarkPrince
@TheDarkPrince 7 жыл бұрын
Loved this video ! Very informative!
@raitoyagami7975
@raitoyagami7975 7 жыл бұрын
nice you got yourself a fan can't wait for the jin breakdown..... also looking foward to some more advanced stuff
@Infragrim
@Infragrim 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video Man! thanks. casually play tekken 3 and 5 with friends. Trying to learn the new Tekken.
@freemanninja1
@freemanninja1 7 жыл бұрын
EMAILS OUT
@Buddhabear43
@Buddhabear43 5 жыл бұрын
Aris yelling "HARADAAAAAAAAA!!!!"
@ZiyaB3ast
@ZiyaB3ast 2 жыл бұрын
Knew I was gonna learn something new. Thanks
@Wladislav
@Wladislav 7 жыл бұрын
Very helpful as usual!
@JustH.100
@JustH.100 3 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="145">2:25</a> Look at Lars's torso. I love model breaking techniques.
@210LG
@210LG 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another TekKEN video! LOL
@CripplingMemeAddict
@CripplingMemeAddict 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Tuts namco didnt provide fam!
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
Real shame huh? Glad we could help!
@ShuusakuSama
@ShuusakuSama 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like this should be part of the game. I started T3, ... but I feel like the Tekken series in general are very difficult on the newcomers.
@MonkiiDeBejitto
@MonkiiDeBejitto 7 жыл бұрын
special mids are lows or mids, which can be blocked standing or ducking. duckjabs are lows, which can be blocked standing for example and can be either lowcrushed or lowparried. akuma's shoryuken for example is considered a mid, which can be blocked ducking, which cannot be crushed by lowcrush moves or lowparried
@Ossuten
@Ossuten 7 жыл бұрын
I need that Steve guide ASAP. Please I beg you, help another sighthound brother out
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
Steve guide coming up next week after the Jin guide! For now there's this: docs.google.com/document/d/1kYWy8Axt7oHsvltEkzyB_Ysfn0mqkNJgUrLyOPvcS14/edit Though I will be updating it soon.
@atumhotep833
@atumhotep833 3 жыл бұрын
3rd Strike players are on the way. Finally good information for Tekken.
@fabivs
@fabivs 7 жыл бұрын
Yay new video! when the next stream on twitch? :>
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
About to start streaming very soon! :)
@toobigaming624
@toobigaming624 6 жыл бұрын
Mids can also be crushed like Josie butterfly edge.
@nusaindah81
@nusaindah81 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@zolda
@zolda 7 жыл бұрын
love your video even i not quite understand your explanation. (maybe because im so stupid) keep up good work. looking foward to your next video.
@JPizzle44o
@JPizzle44o 7 жыл бұрын
Kamenrimau you're not stupid. Tekken is just a hard game to learn. Keep practicing 👍
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and no not at all you're not stupid. Tekken is a complex game, it takes a while to understand all the jargon.
@gelatin25
@gelatin25 6 жыл бұрын
If something wacky happens, make sure to e-mail Harada
@PrinceBiggiePotato
@PrinceBiggiePotato 5 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="676">11:16</a> you okay mannnn!??? XD
@OwlsNeck
@OwlsNeck 5 жыл бұрын
"there is no slowdown when hits are absorbed" *shows two pretty clear examples of slowdown when absorbing hits*
@boltz95
@boltz95 7 жыл бұрын
Subbed
@herokiryu2652
@herokiryu2652 6 жыл бұрын
how do we know this? where can we find this information?
@arcadehayabusu2295
@arcadehayabusu2295 7 жыл бұрын
Please make more of this
@arcadehayabusu2295
@arcadehayabusu2295 7 жыл бұрын
like Anti tutorials
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
Anti-strats are coming along with the character breakdowns.
@arcadehayabusu2295
@arcadehayabusu2295 7 жыл бұрын
That Blasted Salami oh nice
@mutsuhanma7807
@mutsuhanma7807 7 жыл бұрын
Yo Also Kings D+!+2 mid crushes some moves...
@KingQuetzal
@KingQuetzal 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, if you did this for T8 I'd love you.
@martinokezie
@martinokezie 7 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Aabil11
@Aabil11 7 жыл бұрын
The best part about this is the Tekken 5 music
@Ma3ckes
@Ma3ckes 7 жыл бұрын
Wait, so you tell me combo strings are not as stingy with frame perfect inputs as in Street Fighter, as animations blend together to some extent? Is this purely aesthetic or like a animation cancel for the last few frames?
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
It's a bit of both. The movement animation is cancelled into the move, and the move also takes on some of it's properties in a bid to make the transitions look more organic and natural. As a result they also become subtly more evasive in certain situations.
@mshklh2099
@mshklh2099 6 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="368">6:08</a> No way I tested it, try Bryan's f+2,1,4 and record a Rage Art in practice , you will damage different when it is a punish or hitting the Rage Art
@susanoo6696
@susanoo6696 7 жыл бұрын
Will you cover like the insane rare stuff like chickens?
@ezechieltahapary1038
@ezechieltahapary1038 7 жыл бұрын
Susano' o search avoiding the puddle he made a video about that pretty recently
@dydp1
@dydp1 7 жыл бұрын
You guys could also do a tutorial on keep away.
@avimehta1710
@avimehta1710 6 жыл бұрын
Hey when can we expect another character tutorial ..? Been a while since you posted
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 6 жыл бұрын
Kazumi will be up tomorrow :)
@avimehta1710
@avimehta1710 6 жыл бұрын
That Blasted Salami good to know anyways waiting for lee..(kaz king lee Steve right ?)
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 6 жыл бұрын
That's right! Kazumi, King, Lee, Steve, Claudio by the end of the month.
@mmwwism
@mmwwism 6 жыл бұрын
Tankyou
@VanBurenPhilips
@VanBurenPhilips 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! One question: the slo-mo 3rd Strike shot at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="786">13:06</a>, what is this illustrating? btw <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="435">7:15</a>, very satisfying XD
@davidc4941
@davidc4941 7 жыл бұрын
Man I hate Claudio's 'Dah!' Move
@AleksTheLittleOne
@AleksTheLittleOne 6 жыл бұрын
David C any advice how to get rid of that during matches against him? jeezzz i hate those dah moves especially by spammers
@yourboyrussell6738
@yourboyrussell6738 6 жыл бұрын
Aleks ƬHeⱲΩLF Jab him out of it. It's -13 on block.
@10_Bit
@10_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
@@AleksTheLittleOne hop kicks are usually heavily punishable though
@AleksTheLittleOne
@AleksTheLittleOne 5 жыл бұрын
@@10_Bit 1,2 it works but with king i dont have many option left except this and maybe back 1 2 and thats not very good damage tho
@10_Bit
@10_Bit 5 жыл бұрын
@@AleksTheLittleOne not sure how many frames king's hop kick is though since I mainly play with jin though and I usually respond back with another hop kick after a block 🤔 or a 10f launch punish
@Chartreugz
@Chartreugz 6 жыл бұрын
@That Blasted Salami You get rage at 44 health, not 42 health.. minor nitpick..
@Dr_Zenbu
@Dr_Zenbu 5 жыл бұрын
noctis "down, 3" move makes him invincible to high and mid attacks from my experience, its extremely useful to bait players even pros fall for it especially when followed up with 2,2 or 1,2
@WAZAAAAA0
@WAZAAAAA0 6 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="784">13:04</a> it has nothing to do with kara moves, it's literally called animation blending, it's used to make animations transition more smoothly as commonly seen in many other games outside of fighters so it probably affects evasion because kekken is a 3D game that uses hitspheres that are tied to the body instead of handmade hitboxes "kara exploits" exist in SF as a byproduct of trying to add leniency to multi-button moves (such as throws) by making most moves cancellable after the first startup frame with an higher priority move (throws, specials). DOA used a different method to achieve the same leniency: adding 1 frame of "delay" which waits to see if you actually wanted to press P+K instead of P. Kekken has no leniency there, that's why multi-button moves need to be frame perfect (and it does indeed feel clunky as shit). also, can't crouch tackle throws because they're mid, and lows (and throws?) can't interrupt the armor of running shoulder, they should've probably been mentioned but kekken is full of exceptions it's impossible to remember all of them lol
@BejittoSan
@BejittoSan 7 жыл бұрын
"mid crushes don't exist" aren't EX Shoryuken of Eliza and Akuma technically a high, mid and lowcrush moves at the same time?
@ThatBlastedSalami
@ThatBlastedSalami 7 жыл бұрын
Well that's just full body invincibility. A new concept to Tekken but I think as we see more meter dependent characters, possibly in TxSF, this will warrant a section to itself. Maybe on a future tutorial vid :)
@Keelox100
@Keelox100 5 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="835">13:55</a> but off course, why get angry? This can happen 5 times during match and as a result lose the entire match. Why is there a reason to be angry? Not like it’s a waste of time or anything? Right?
@dusty2515
@dusty2515 7 жыл бұрын
DAH
@112523
@112523 7 жыл бұрын
you can punish rage arts users with a low move. and i believe you can even low parrie lucky cloe's
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior 3 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes hitbox/hurtbox interactions can be kind of wacky" okay, but when it's the final round and the camera does that zoom in and slowdown thing, you feel even *more* cheated.
@queencard97
@queencard97 5 жыл бұрын
You missed the Mid crush. #Xiaoyu #AOP
@adibz959
@adibz959 7 жыл бұрын
EMAILLL OUTT
@SY-no7di
@SY-no7di 7 жыл бұрын
First? Finally, a new vid comes out!
@Zagryzaec
@Zagryzaec 2 жыл бұрын
How angry is too angry? I play Dragunov.
@crashingblow3753
@crashingblow3753 2 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="284">4:44</a> There is no such thing, or there SHOULDN'T BE SUCH THING!?
@theguy110
@theguy110 7 жыл бұрын
im waiting for mother russia, octopus, arab and mr.cyborg
@VTEC313
@VTEC313 2 жыл бұрын
Except in Tekken 7 you get rock, paper scissor style mid crushing moves. Probably the biggest fault with this game.
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