heyo! here is a fun video i made talkin about the new lee stuff! Markmans video: • TEKKEN 8 PREVIEW EVENT... xlnt
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@Gigalink076 ай бұрын
I'm already getting goosebumps on how excited I am with T8 Lee, there's so much stuff to explore and try, I'm looking forward to your stream on T8 with Lee, watching your indepth analysis on Lee is very fun to watch!
@shhheee6 ай бұрын
As a Lee player, I was looking at it the wrong way. Luckily, I'm a man of logic and can be convinced otherwise, which you just did.
@IzNebula6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this Incredibly detailed breakdown of this excellent, marvelous and brilliant character. I can't wait to play him in Tekken 8. All those hours learning his just frames are coming full circle and I can't wait to learn the new stuff. Feelsleemanclub members rejoice! Let me say, I was a little upset when I saw slide didn't knockdown and it was fully launch punishable, but since then I think I realized it's a valid nerf considering how strong his highs have become and the nerf isn't that bad since you can now completely mix up people from mist step with 3+4 being a real slide unlike in Tekken 7, so you can mix up mist step 3,4 and mist step 3+4 (slide).
@lostdreamer506 ай бұрын
the mist step slide is like i25 man, my grandma can block it, you are not gonna be mixing that
@IzNebula6 ай бұрын
@@lostdreamer50 Damn didn't realize the mist step slide was i25, that really does suck. It looked faster, but I guess anything looks faster compared to the old one from mist step.
@INDRAyoutube3496 ай бұрын
HOLY SHIT, looking good. I've been saying this, Lee players always look the best. Also just want to say thanks. Been learning Lee recently and have watched alot of your old videos, they are really good. Glad to see you're back. Cant wait to see you play t8.
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
Glad they helped! And definitely expect alot more in the coming months post T8 release!
@TkBilalKaka6 ай бұрын
so happy for you to have lee in tekken 8 brother! hope we watch you soon in tekken 8 rank :D
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
And i hope we get lei back, we need him
@AdachiCabbage6 ай бұрын
KZfaq blessed me with this channel. I'm an OG and used to use him for fun as a pocket sub (with Kazuya/Jun as my mains,) in T1-2. He's one of my favorite and one of the most underused characters in Tekken. I'm going to sub him to throw folks off and he's fun. There is probably a universe where Lee adopts Kazuya in T3 and tells him what happened to himself and Kazuya, but Jin doesn't believe it until Hachi stabs him in the back after using him for bait. So T4-7 is Jin going back to his uncle Lee and trying to carry out the will of his mother and not turn to revenge like his father and grandfather, all while doing Lee's badass moves.
@lmyourfather5 ай бұрын
🎉
@supercamacho7745 ай бұрын
Hi pado!
@jannathanielausan46716 ай бұрын
Mahvelous 🌹
@walmartian4225 ай бұрын
I don’t like how back 1,1 doesn’t pick up anymore after the counter hit 4.
@FshineK5 ай бұрын
As far back in t4 ive always loved lee/violet solely cause of his visual and characterization, tbh at this point i dont care what bamco do to lee kit-wise id still main him nonetheless, but oh boy am i so glad we got so many new things, im so fucking hyped for tekken 8!!
@Bottles75 ай бұрын
Yeeess
@IzNebula6 ай бұрын
To note couple things you might have not realized: db3+4 is now i21 as opposed to i23-25 in Tekken 7, meaning it's unseeable and +4, unfortunate but there is no reason to use db3 anymore. Also slide at the range it becomes -9 or less punishable, can be anywhere from +7 to +9. Last couple things since his ff2 can go into mist step to be +5 on block into mist step mix-up (I can see it a some combo filler for more damage into b2 loops as well) and ws1,2 can do the same since it goes into mist step for potential mist step mix-up now.
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
Thanks for adding those!
@LwNickV6 ай бұрын
So odd, why on earth is db+3 -1 on hit and only 1 frame faster than DB 3+4, makes 0 sense balance wise. No reason to use it at all. Overall i'm very dissapointed. It's literally T7 Lee with some minor tweaks, If i wanted that i'd just paly T7. He seems the least updated compared to the rest of the cast. Not asking for an overhaul. But new things to use 10 years later would be kinda the least they could do?
@rko72936 ай бұрын
The db3+4 buff is definitely a big one for me since Lee can now mix this up with 1+2 in the neutral and fish for a CH with either 1+2 or db3+4. He could already do this a little bit in T7 even though it was more efficient to use b4 instead of 1+2 because of the similar animations of b4 and db3+4. This always felt somewhat off to me, but thankfully, this seems to be in the past. My man Lee finally has some good lows in slide (even though the opinions are still mixed), db3+4 and b33❤
@elliotsmith5676 ай бұрын
Db3 OH leaves you in the same situation that df1 OB does. Lee is quite good when -1. If you expect a jab then you move, duck, ff4, or d3. If they press anything i12 and mid he can 223 CH fish, and i13 or slower he can use his magic 4 stuff to launch or enter heat. People are more likely to press when they know youre negative vs when they know you have plus frames. I'm not saying that db3 isn't nerfed. It is objectively nerfed, but I still see a use for it. Chip damage low that leaves Lee exactly where his df1 does when blocked. I get damage + the situation.
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
@@elliotsmith567 yeah, i wing my videos for the most part (not great i know lol) but im pretty sure i make a point saying "yeah but -1 for lee ain't shit -1 might as well be +1" so yeah its not a big deal, just a seemingly inconsequential decision
@pretzel_aksmash3536 ай бұрын
I've been thinking that slide isn't as bad as everyone thinks it's gonna be, being at worst +3 point blank to force a full crouch mix is super good. Curious what the point of the blue spark slide is tho other than getting heat gauge back, doesn't seem to do anything unless I'm just missing something
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
More damage
@pretzel_aksmash3536 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 Oh lol guess I'm blind
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
@@pretzel_aksmash353 nah man youre not blind its hard to miss haha even king jae didnt notice it :)
@seandukebernadas98456 ай бұрын
❤
@booleann___5 ай бұрын
Do you know if the b3,3 pick up timing is still tight? I can't get it consistently on CH d3, uf 3+4, bb4, and even my ff4 timing isn't amazing.
@supercamacho7745 ай бұрын
The timing is alot easier now! And also i saw in some gameplay that you can actually pick up with b33 even if you dont go into crouch! Which means more options after d3 without sacrificing the combo if you get a counterhit
@booleann___5 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 Thanks goodness. I'd like to main Lee, but I'm not sure I could deal with inconsistent combos in T8. I feel like he is hard enough, that they shouldn't make the b33 pickup inconsistent
@IeuroI6 ай бұрын
who knew tekken would come full circle that bryan and lee, my mains went from B tier characters to basically the best characters in the game
@qaasimhussain32036 ай бұрын
@camacho was wondering if you could do a tutorial on how to lab characters and learn character match ups in tekken 8 please
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
As soon as i figure it out myself sure LOL
@qaasimhussain32036 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 hahaha thank you!!
@user-dy2wt5ef6d5 ай бұрын
Are you confident that 44 ch will launch? I'm worried
@supercamacho7745 ай бұрын
Not at all, completely depends on what we find. Even if it doesn 43/434/433 is still good af and unique to lee for the most part
@VervongolagreenFGC6 ай бұрын
Lee looking solid in T8! Always one of the entertaining characters to watch . I gotta play Kazuya or DJin now they got rid of my boy Miguel 😢 Hope we spar this game bro, hope you’re doing well ! -Vervongolagreen from twitch
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
Yo bro i recognized you! Yeah im suprised miguel isn't in the game alot of people will miss him. And dvj seems so sick im def gonna play him alot! We will for sure fight in t8 count on it!
@VervongolagreenFGC6 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 LETS GO 🔥 Im salty Miguel is gone but I can say I will be playing way more chars I did compared to T7. I miss heihachi lowkey
@shino4756 ай бұрын
We need atleast one game where he's at the top.
@R.RHigashikata6 ай бұрын
Yea he’s that boi
@shiekastate6 ай бұрын
Lee being in crouch at +3 after a slide also means ws1 is uninteruptible, which also gives you quick access back into Hitman.
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
Exactly, the new slide is worse than old slide but lee is still cooking!
@jovannyahumada78676 ай бұрын
🤯😮💨
@dermert6 ай бұрын
The only thing i wish he had was a just frame version of hms 3 where after he slams you to the ground he curb stomps you like his sidethrow.
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
Thats a cool idea!
@qaasimhussain32036 ай бұрын
Leeeee is theee most excerrrlennt character
@TGregers5 ай бұрын
Aren't his slides only launch punishable from point blank? If you use it from range, it's almost buffed right?
@supercamacho7745 ай бұрын
I say that in the video
@TGregers5 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 Haven't watched the whole thing yet:)
@supercamacho7745 ай бұрын
@@TGregers i know
@TGregers5 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 Yeah that sounds like an overall buff to me. Dont think slide up close was that great of a mixup anyway, pretty risky to get floated for full combo.
@braxton4146 ай бұрын
As a lee player, i just want a quick mid string.
@thoraero6 ай бұрын
My guess is db3 will no longer be -12 on block but safer. The current i20 at that range for just +2 is already below average imo. There's no way they would nerf it.
@qaasimhussain32036 ай бұрын
And counter hit d4 is still a launcher same pick up in back 33 mist step just like T7
@nishikiyamaa.44406 ай бұрын
29:28 you didn't noticed there but that's his best buff he ever got. b3,3 has the damage displayed there meaning it's natural! It might be a display bug (tho it didn't show up on f41) but if that's the case, Lee has a low/high NC string, that's so crazy It also got a buff on the frame from -3 to -1 oH without going to MS which would be +2 to +4 oH This is one of the strongest low/high string I dare say Lee would have no struggle to open turtle with this
@rko72936 ай бұрын
I am so excited about the b33 buff. I also didn't notice it at first, and I was quick to say I was not going to use Lee in T8. But now I will definitely give him my all in conjunction with his other buffs😎
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
Oh wow youre, that was super easy to miss... It might be because the enemy isnt blocking so it shows up as NC like how ws24 into f333334 shows as NC if they neutral block but its very possible that they made it natural, if they did then yeah with new slide, db3+4 buffs, and this NC low string and all his new plus moves he will be so much stronger at opening people. Great catch!
@johnysimps11916 ай бұрын
B33 natural on hit? Na. We gon need some proof for that.
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
@@johnysimps1191 watch markmans video it shows up as natural combo
@johnysimps11916 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 i watched the video. I'm just confused with how y'all deduced that. Was the cpu set to block? Or when it counts as 2 hits is when it's natural? Coz there's a couple unnatural combos that string together when CPU isn't blocking.
@DayHikari-fj5fk6 ай бұрын
Lee chablan
@qaasimhussain32036 ай бұрын
Forward forward 4 still combos
@heroce9746 ай бұрын
Why did you say you were kinda glad they didn't make f2,1 a heat engager?
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
Because knockdowns are more rare in tekken 8, if they made it a heat engager then it definitely would not knd, so having the same hit confirmable 14 punish that wallsplats/knds is pretty good in tekken 8. My bad for not elaborating i get excited about stuff and forget lol
@heroce9746 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 It's ok lol. Thanks for answering!
@GloryBlazer6 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure I saw a video where the slide gets blocked at bigger distance and it became -11
@lostdreamer506 ай бұрын
that's something, but who eats a slide from faraway? This only happens in green ranks or yellow ranks
@GloryBlazer6 ай бұрын
@@lostdreamer50 maybe if you mix it up with ff4 or ff3 or whatever.
@lostdreamer506 ай бұрын
@@GloryBlazer ff4 is a high.. you could mix with ff3 before. the problem is that slide is not strong enough anymore to make people not want to duck. So why duck against Lee at all? At 20 damage and no kd, no oki, Lee needs to risk his life many times to put a dent in the oponnent's hp bar. if they duck once, Lee dies (though combo damage/wall travel is less in t8? not sure about that). But I just can't see it as a viable move anymore.
@GloryBlazer6 ай бұрын
@@lostdreamer50 he doesnt risk his life, I just told you its not launchable, if you learn how mixups work in general then it's a good option.
@GloryBlazer6 ай бұрын
@@lostdreamer50 you are either downplaying Lee or you can't play the game.
@LeAntoine6 ай бұрын
I thought this was the fortnite battlepass video. I wasnt disappointed.
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
i always deliver just for you, Ant
@rolandhidasi30286 ай бұрын
Yea, that one voice line is questionable, I don’t really like it either. Apart from that, really cool
@lostdreamer506 ай бұрын
are we 100% sure slide doesn't float on block? this makes the risk reward even worse, like why would you even do it? fc df4 looks better
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
Yes there is no float, i personality would use it simaler to how i would use hatchet with bryan
@lostdreamer506 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 But hatchet is not launch punishable and Bryan doesn't need to crouch to do it (thus risking a hopick to the face)
@lostdreamer506 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 I believe they should increase at least increase the plus frames to like +5 or 6 and play a meatier sfx when it heats, have the opponent animation look like thay are in pain... Maybe increase the damage to 23 and 27 for the just frame version... More likely for the opponent to duck when they see Lee in crouch. Now they are just gonna be blocking all day long.
@supercamacho7746 ай бұрын
@@lostdreamer50 yeah, but bryan doesnt have magic 4 in tekken 8, or d3, or ff4. I think thats a fair trade tbh, just my opinion tho
@lostdreamer506 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 yeah... Of course it depends on how strong other characters will be as well. Still, my playstyle is heavily nerfed for sure... Slide mixup alone wins me entire rounds. I'd sacrifice the getup 3 or do the slower one or nothing- wake up crouching and force another mixup. That was probably my favorite thing to do in the game... Really sad it's gone, man. I guess the writing was on the wall when they changed Law's slide, now way they wouldn't mess up Lee's.
@RedLordGaming_FGE5 ай бұрын
Can someone buy me tekken 8 and a console. I'm the next breakout competitor. I'm going to be feared in this chapter of Tekken on and offline. I'll share 20% of my winnings with you