Tekken 8 Lee Chaolan Analysis! Is He Strong???

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camacho

camacho

6 ай бұрын

heyo! here is a fun video i made talkin about the new lee stuff!
Markmans video:
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@Gigalink07
@Gigalink07 6 ай бұрын
I'm already getting goosebumps on how excited I am with T8 Lee, there's so much stuff to explore and try, I'm looking forward to your stream on T8 with Lee, watching your indepth analysis on Lee is very fun to watch!
@shhheee
@shhheee 6 ай бұрын
As a Lee player, I was looking at it the wrong way. Luckily, I'm a man of logic and can be convinced otherwise, which you just did.
@IzNebula
@IzNebula 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this Incredibly detailed breakdown of this excellent, marvelous and brilliant character. I can't wait to play him in Tekken 8. All those hours learning his just frames are coming full circle and I can't wait to learn the new stuff. Feelsleemanclub members rejoice! Let me say, I was a little upset when I saw slide didn't knockdown and it was fully launch punishable, but since then I think I realized it's a valid nerf considering how strong his highs have become and the nerf isn't that bad since you can now completely mix up people from mist step with 3+4 being a real slide unlike in Tekken 7, so you can mix up mist step 3,4 and mist step 3+4 (slide).
@lostdreamer50
@lostdreamer50 6 ай бұрын
the mist step slide is like i25 man, my grandma can block it, you are not gonna be mixing that
@IzNebula
@IzNebula 6 ай бұрын
@@lostdreamer50 Damn didn't realize the mist step slide was i25, that really does suck. It looked faster, but I guess anything looks faster compared to the old one from mist step.
@INDRAyoutube349
@INDRAyoutube349 6 ай бұрын
HOLY SHIT, looking good. I've been saying this, Lee players always look the best. Also just want to say thanks. Been learning Lee recently and have watched alot of your old videos, they are really good. Glad to see you're back. Cant wait to see you play t8.
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
Glad they helped! And definitely expect alot more in the coming months post T8 release!
@TkBilalKaka
@TkBilalKaka 6 ай бұрын
so happy for you to have lee in tekken 8 brother! hope we watch you soon in tekken 8 rank :D
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
And i hope we get lei back, we need him
@AdachiCabbage
@AdachiCabbage 6 ай бұрын
KZfaq blessed me with this channel. I'm an OG and used to use him for fun as a pocket sub (with Kazuya/Jun as my mains,) in T1-2. He's one of my favorite and one of the most underused characters in Tekken. I'm going to sub him to throw folks off and he's fun. There is probably a universe where Lee adopts Kazuya in T3 and tells him what happened to himself and Kazuya, but Jin doesn't believe it until Hachi stabs him in the back after using him for bait. So T4-7 is Jin going back to his uncle Lee and trying to carry out the will of his mother and not turn to revenge like his father and grandfather, all while doing Lee's badass moves.
@lmyourfather
@lmyourfather 5 ай бұрын
🎉
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 5 ай бұрын
Hi pado!
@jannathanielausan4671
@jannathanielausan4671 6 ай бұрын
Mahvelous 🌹
@walmartian422
@walmartian422 5 ай бұрын
I don’t like how back 1,1 doesn’t pick up anymore after the counter hit 4.
@FshineK
@FshineK 5 ай бұрын
As far back in t4 ive always loved lee/violet solely cause of his visual and characterization, tbh at this point i dont care what bamco do to lee kit-wise id still main him nonetheless, but oh boy am i so glad we got so many new things, im so fucking hyped for tekken 8!!
@Bottles7
@Bottles7 5 ай бұрын
Yeeess
@IzNebula
@IzNebula 6 ай бұрын
To note couple things you might have not realized: db3+4 is now i21 as opposed to i23-25 in Tekken 7, meaning it's unseeable and +4, unfortunate but there is no reason to use db3 anymore. Also slide at the range it becomes -9 or less punishable, can be anywhere from +7 to +9. Last couple things since his ff2 can go into mist step to be +5 on block into mist step mix-up (I can see it a some combo filler for more damage into b2 loops as well) and ws1,2 can do the same since it goes into mist step for potential mist step mix-up now.
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for adding those!
@LwNickV
@LwNickV 6 ай бұрын
So odd, why on earth is db+3 -1 on hit and only 1 frame faster than DB 3+4, makes 0 sense balance wise. No reason to use it at all. Overall i'm very dissapointed. It's literally T7 Lee with some minor tweaks, If i wanted that i'd just paly T7. He seems the least updated compared to the rest of the cast. Not asking for an overhaul. But new things to use 10 years later would be kinda the least they could do?
@rko7293
@rko7293 6 ай бұрын
The db3+4 buff is definitely a big one for me since Lee can now mix this up with 1+2 in the neutral and fish for a CH with either 1+2 or db3+4. He could already do this a little bit in T7 even though it was more efficient to use b4 instead of 1+2 because of the similar animations of b4 and db3+4. This always felt somewhat off to me, but thankfully, this seems to be in the past. My man Lee finally has some good lows in slide (even though the opinions are still mixed), db3+4 and b33❤
@elliotsmith567
@elliotsmith567 6 ай бұрын
Db3 OH leaves you in the same situation that df1 OB does. Lee is quite good when -1. If you expect a jab then you move, duck, ff4, or d3. If they press anything i12 and mid he can 223 CH fish, and i13 or slower he can use his magic 4 stuff to launch or enter heat. People are more likely to press when they know youre negative vs when they know you have plus frames. I'm not saying that db3 isn't nerfed. It is objectively nerfed, but I still see a use for it. Chip damage low that leaves Lee exactly where his df1 does when blocked. I get damage + the situation.
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
@@elliotsmith567 yeah, i wing my videos for the most part (not great i know lol) but im pretty sure i make a point saying "yeah but -1 for lee ain't shit -1 might as well be +1" so yeah its not a big deal, just a seemingly inconsequential decision
@pretzel_aksmash353
@pretzel_aksmash353 6 ай бұрын
I've been thinking that slide isn't as bad as everyone thinks it's gonna be, being at worst +3 point blank to force a full crouch mix is super good. Curious what the point of the blue spark slide is tho other than getting heat gauge back, doesn't seem to do anything unless I'm just missing something
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
More damage
@pretzel_aksmash353
@pretzel_aksmash353 6 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 Oh lol guess I'm blind
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
@@pretzel_aksmash353 nah man youre not blind its hard to miss haha even king jae didnt notice it :)
@seandukebernadas9845
@seandukebernadas9845 6 ай бұрын
@booleann___
@booleann___ 5 ай бұрын
Do you know if the b3,3 pick up timing is still tight? I can't get it consistently on CH d3, uf 3+4, bb4, and even my ff4 timing isn't amazing.
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 5 ай бұрын
The timing is alot easier now! And also i saw in some gameplay that you can actually pick up with b33 even if you dont go into crouch! Which means more options after d3 without sacrificing the combo if you get a counterhit
@booleann___
@booleann___ 5 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 Thanks goodness. I'd like to main Lee, but I'm not sure I could deal with inconsistent combos in T8. I feel like he is hard enough, that they shouldn't make the b33 pickup inconsistent
@IeuroI
@IeuroI 6 ай бұрын
who knew tekken would come full circle that bryan and lee, my mains went from B tier characters to basically the best characters in the game
@qaasimhussain3203
@qaasimhussain3203 6 ай бұрын
@camacho was wondering if you could do a tutorial on how to lab characters and learn character match ups in tekken 8 please
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
As soon as i figure it out myself sure LOL
@qaasimhussain3203
@qaasimhussain3203 6 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 hahaha thank you!!
@user-dy2wt5ef6d
@user-dy2wt5ef6d 5 ай бұрын
Are you confident that 44 ch will launch? I'm worried
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 5 ай бұрын
Not at all, completely depends on what we find. Even if it doesn 43/434/433 is still good af and unique to lee for the most part
@VervongolagreenFGC
@VervongolagreenFGC 6 ай бұрын
Lee looking solid in T8! Always one of the entertaining characters to watch . I gotta play Kazuya or DJin now they got rid of my boy Miguel 😢 Hope we spar this game bro, hope you’re doing well ! -Vervongolagreen from twitch
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
Yo bro i recognized you! Yeah im suprised miguel isn't in the game alot of people will miss him. And dvj seems so sick im def gonna play him alot! We will for sure fight in t8 count on it!
@VervongolagreenFGC
@VervongolagreenFGC 6 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 LETS GO 🔥 Im salty Miguel is gone but I can say I will be playing way more chars I did compared to T7. I miss heihachi lowkey
@shino475
@shino475 6 ай бұрын
We need atleast one game where he's at the top.
@R.RHigashikata
@R.RHigashikata 6 ай бұрын
Yea he’s that boi
@shiekastate
@shiekastate 6 ай бұрын
Lee being in crouch at +3 after a slide also means ws1 is uninteruptible, which also gives you quick access back into Hitman.
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
Exactly, the new slide is worse than old slide but lee is still cooking!
@jovannyahumada7867
@jovannyahumada7867 6 ай бұрын
🤯😮‍💨
@dermert
@dermert 6 ай бұрын
The only thing i wish he had was a just frame version of hms 3 where after he slams you to the ground he curb stomps you like his sidethrow.
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
Thats a cool idea!
@qaasimhussain3203
@qaasimhussain3203 6 ай бұрын
Leeeee is theee most excerrrlennt character
@TGregers
@TGregers 5 ай бұрын
Aren't his slides only launch punishable from point blank? If you use it from range, it's almost buffed right?
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 5 ай бұрын
I say that in the video
@TGregers
@TGregers 5 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 Haven't watched the whole thing yet:)
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 5 ай бұрын
@@TGregers i know
@TGregers
@TGregers 5 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 Yeah that sounds like an overall buff to me. Dont think slide up close was that great of a mixup anyway, pretty risky to get floated for full combo.
@braxton414
@braxton414 6 ай бұрын
As a lee player, i just want a quick mid string.
@thoraero
@thoraero 6 ай бұрын
My guess is db3 will no longer be -12 on block but safer. The current i20 at that range for just +2 is already below average imo. There's no way they would nerf it.
@qaasimhussain3203
@qaasimhussain3203 6 ай бұрын
And counter hit d4 is still a launcher same pick up in back 33 mist step just like T7
@nishikiyamaa.4440
@nishikiyamaa.4440 6 ай бұрын
29:28 you didn't noticed there but that's his best buff he ever got. b3,3 has the damage displayed there meaning it's natural! It might be a display bug (tho it didn't show up on f41) but if that's the case, Lee has a low/high NC string, that's so crazy It also got a buff on the frame from -3 to -1 oH without going to MS which would be +2 to +4 oH This is one of the strongest low/high string I dare say Lee would have no struggle to open turtle with this
@rko7293
@rko7293 6 ай бұрын
I am so excited about the b33 buff. I also didn't notice it at first, and I was quick to say I was not going to use Lee in T8. But now I will definitely give him my all in conjunction with his other buffs😎
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
Oh wow youre, that was super easy to miss... It might be because the enemy isnt blocking so it shows up as NC like how ws24 into f333334 shows as NC if they neutral block but its very possible that they made it natural, if they did then yeah with new slide, db3+4 buffs, and this NC low string and all his new plus moves he will be so much stronger at opening people. Great catch!
@johnysimps1191
@johnysimps1191 6 ай бұрын
B33 natural on hit? Na. We gon need some proof for that.
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
@@johnysimps1191 watch markmans video it shows up as natural combo
@johnysimps1191
@johnysimps1191 6 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 i watched the video. I'm just confused with how y'all deduced that. Was the cpu set to block? Or when it counts as 2 hits is when it's natural? Coz there's a couple unnatural combos that string together when CPU isn't blocking.
@DayHikari-fj5fk
@DayHikari-fj5fk 6 ай бұрын
Lee chablan
@qaasimhussain3203
@qaasimhussain3203 6 ай бұрын
Forward forward 4 still combos
@heroce974
@heroce974 6 ай бұрын
Why did you say you were kinda glad they didn't make f2,1 a heat engager?
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
Because knockdowns are more rare in tekken 8, if they made it a heat engager then it definitely would not knd, so having the same hit confirmable 14 punish that wallsplats/knds is pretty good in tekken 8. My bad for not elaborating i get excited about stuff and forget lol
@heroce974
@heroce974 6 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 It's ok lol. Thanks for answering!
@GloryBlazer
@GloryBlazer 6 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure I saw a video where the slide gets blocked at bigger distance and it became -11
@lostdreamer50
@lostdreamer50 6 ай бұрын
that's something, but who eats a slide from faraway? This only happens in green ranks or yellow ranks
@GloryBlazer
@GloryBlazer 6 ай бұрын
@@lostdreamer50 maybe if you mix it up with ff4 or ff3 or whatever.
@lostdreamer50
@lostdreamer50 6 ай бұрын
@@GloryBlazer ff4 is a high.. you could mix with ff3 before. the problem is that slide is not strong enough anymore to make people not want to duck. So why duck against Lee at all? At 20 damage and no kd, no oki, Lee needs to risk his life many times to put a dent in the oponnent's hp bar. if they duck once, Lee dies (though combo damage/wall travel is less in t8? not sure about that). But I just can't see it as a viable move anymore.
@GloryBlazer
@GloryBlazer 6 ай бұрын
@@lostdreamer50 he doesnt risk his life, I just told you its not launchable, if you learn how mixups work in general then it's a good option.
@GloryBlazer
@GloryBlazer 6 ай бұрын
@@lostdreamer50 you are either downplaying Lee or you can't play the game.
@LeAntoine
@LeAntoine 6 ай бұрын
I thought this was the fortnite battlepass video. I wasnt disappointed.
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
i always deliver just for you, Ant
@rolandhidasi3028
@rolandhidasi3028 6 ай бұрын
Yea, that one voice line is questionable, I don’t really like it either. Apart from that, really cool
@lostdreamer50
@lostdreamer50 6 ай бұрын
are we 100% sure slide doesn't float on block? this makes the risk reward even worse, like why would you even do it? fc df4 looks better
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
Yes there is no float, i personality would use it simaler to how i would use hatchet with bryan
@lostdreamer50
@lostdreamer50 6 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 But hatchet is not launch punishable and Bryan doesn't need to crouch to do it (thus risking a hopick to the face)
@lostdreamer50
@lostdreamer50 6 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 I believe they should increase at least increase the plus frames to like +5 or 6 and play a meatier sfx when it heats, have the opponent animation look like thay are in pain... Maybe increase the damage to 23 and 27 for the just frame version... More likely for the opponent to duck when they see Lee in crouch. Now they are just gonna be blocking all day long.
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
@@lostdreamer50 yeah, but bryan doesnt have magic 4 in tekken 8, or d3, or ff4. I think thats a fair trade tbh, just my opinion tho
@lostdreamer50
@lostdreamer50 6 ай бұрын
@@supercamacho774 yeah... Of course it depends on how strong other characters will be as well. Still, my playstyle is heavily nerfed for sure... Slide mixup alone wins me entire rounds. I'd sacrifice the getup 3 or do the slower one or nothing- wake up crouching and force another mixup. That was probably my favorite thing to do in the game... Really sad it's gone, man. I guess the writing was on the wall when they changed Law's slide, now way they wouldn't mess up Lee's.
@RedLordGaming_FGE
@RedLordGaming_FGE 5 ай бұрын
Can someone buy me tekken 8 and a console. I'm the next breakout competitor. I'm going to be feared in this chapter of Tekken on and offline. I'll share 20% of my winnings with you
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 5 ай бұрын
Super generous offer bro, good luck with that 👍
@1boreal
@1boreal 6 ай бұрын
Lee nerfs incoming🙄
@supercamacho774
@supercamacho774 6 ай бұрын
You're probably right lol
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