Thanks for watching and for mentioning your experience with it too. Cool to hear you got pretty similar results, though also a shame the ammo doesn't do better.

Minute of man is good enough. Minute of angle. And AK shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.

Thank you for the comment and for watching, I'm glad you liked the video!

Did you end up buying any? I'm curious if it's actually corrosive or not, despite what the box says.

@cheech9283 No, I never did. However, if I do, I will consider it as corrosive ammunition and clean accordingly after my shooting session. I have no issue at all with shooting corrosive ammunition.

Thanks for watching! On the plus side, at least the ammo is reliable, so it'll work for closer-range practice at least.

@@Feldmutze so I cruised through reddit and someone said the first batches in March had QC issues and later made stuff has been solid. Not sure if that applies here.

Good to know. I'm biased as I only have a small sample size of the ammo I tried, but if others are reporting QC issues then there's probably some out there. Hopefully the newer TelaAmmo actually has fixed the QC problems you mentioned now.

​@rabidkitten01 what kind of QC issues did they have? I bought 500rds from Atlantic Firearms around August.

@@bluedownC sorry for the delay. But mostly just being quite inaccurate with a large fps spread.

exact same markings as the the stuff i got

I could see that normally, but this handguard actually is free floated.

Interesting, I hadn't heard that before. I'll compare some of that ЗП ammo with the other stuff I have some time and I'll see if it's any different.

@@Feldmutze the only two other options for "ЗП" could be запасные патроны (reserve ammo) or заводская проверка (factory checked) but I think it is most likely забракованные патроны (blemished ammo).

I haven't had any problems with corrosion after shooting this ammo and I didn't clean the rifle for several months after doing this video. Thanks for mentioning that test Buffman did, though, as I wasn't aware of it until now and that's really good to know at least as a precaution.

Thanks for the reply. I guess I’m just going to have to get some and do a little testing myself.

I’m guessing a few batches might have used corrosive primers accidentally or something.

Fuddlore extreme

If you're having issues with that many different types of ammo, it's more than likely there's an issue with your rifle itself. I'd check your firing pin for obstructions or damage. I had the same issue with this rifle a year or so ago and the firing pin had cracked in half and needed replacing.

Unfortunately it's not a good time to get into 5.45 so I think going 5.56 would be a much better option. I'll be testing Tela 5.45 when it comes out, but imo even if it fares better, it'd be a better idea to not have to be reliant on 1 manufacturer for all your ammo in case imports dry up again.

My thought process exactly. Azerbaijan just doesn't seem like a reliable source long term anyway. Tired of riding the import roller coaster of here one day gone the next. If a manufacturer inside the US sourcing its own raw materials in the US I'd be more optimistic for 545. Wishful thinking at this point.

Well now Atlantic has Tela 5.45 lol

@@Deathtroll1499 Oh cool. I need to try some of that.

Yes, it's one of the Kruschiki Multitarn smocks.

There's still a lot floating around but all Russian ammo is now banned from import.

The ammo worked correctly here, it's just extremely imprecise. I'm sure Kalashnikov USA was able to shoot >50K rounds and have each of them work without malfunctioning, but the precision is another matter entirely.

It's not a bad idea to do consistency measurements in practice, but in a lot of cases, and especially this TelaAmmo, it's nowhere near precise enough to bother with, and most the inconsistency comes through on target anyway.

@@Feldmutze but to understand the inconsistencies on target wouldn’t it be in good faith to explain why that happens? I’m not calling you out in anyway. It’s just something I noticed that can educate people on why ammo is good or bad and why the ammo is far more important than people actually think. I think it would greatly benefit those who don’t reload. It would also separate your channel from the rest.

I can see that. I don't think I'd do that in every ammo test for the sake of brevity since these can have a lot going on in them already, but you brought up good points and I'm heavily considering doing an in-depth explanation of it once in a standalone video that I can reference whenever I do future ammo tests.

Are you referring to the ammo or something else on the rifle? If it's the ammo, I haven't seen any differences from shooting it off-camera and how it fared in this test.

@@Feldmutze ammo

​@Feldmutze been hearing that this is corrosive, can you confirm or deny?

TelaAmmo had some lots that got corrosive primers mixed in. It's not something I ran into myself on the 7.62 x 39 or the 5.45 either, and it does seem like they fixed it on their newest production ammo, but it's definitely something to watch out for.

That's actually slightly worse to what I was getting with Silver Bear. See 9:34. Wolf is just an importer. Depending on the actual manufacturer of the ammo (Tula, Barnaul, Vympel, etc.) it can vary wildly in precision.

I can see that. The AK isn't a tack driver but usually has adequate accuracy. This TelaAmmo, however, being 7.3 MOA, is way larger than a torso-sized target at 300 - 400 yards though.

@@Feldmutze welll I guess this is the type of stuff you store for a Teotwawki type of day since it’s Lacquer-coated and sealed

That's a good point, I'll think about doing that. I have the channel name as "Feldmutze" currently since most English-speaking people type it that way, even though it is incorrect. Though I don't think anyone even comes to this channel by searching the name anyway, so I might just go all the way and name it correctly with the umlaut.

Imagine being so braindead you think all camo is a military uniform, focusing on that during an ammo review and disregarding everything else said, AND making a comment about it. You don't belong here. Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

@@botakbishop1441 Thanks! I actually tend to avoid wearing camo in a lot of my videos for technical reasons with the bitrate and compression, but you bring up a good point and I could see it being worth wearing camo even more just for the sake of pruning out commenters like the OP lol.

Maybe they changed something with the ammo because when I shot it I didn't detect any abnormal smell, and the accuracy was really poor.

@Feldmutze was definitely really good shot 200 rounds telaammo and 200 wolf classic wolf. Wolf was a little more accurate but was sub moa or 1 moa putting rounds thru paper and putting round after round in same hole I was surprised myself your always nervous around new ammo I also tested out some new magazines from zastava arms polymer magazines with bolt hold open. Shoot thru my zastava m70 so it pretty much chews up any ammo but wasn't sure about this but my ffl said they have not had any complaints so I told them I would run 200 rounds thru my AK and let them know. So I switched between wolf classic and telaammo to make sure cycling both went back in fourth shot 400 rounds and not one malfunction and wherever I sent it the ammo went just smell real bad after 200 rounds of it and 200 rounds of wolf. But cannot be picky whet ammo is scarce I will live with smell but I would say repackage old military rounds but age of ammo overrated I have shot 10 15 year old ammo and no performance issues. I was happy to be surprised did not expect to cycle ever round and be that on target.

Are you sure you're measuring that MOA correctly? I've NEVER heard of or seen any AK shooting sub-MOA with any ammo, and even 1 MOA sounds like a stretch.

@Feldmutze Yes sending the ammo thru the same hole or close to it have not stretched it out 200 300 yards yet with ammo have to set appointment to use range but will be stretching it out within next 2 weeks ordering some more telaammo and see how it is longer range. So shooting 50 to 100 yards so far using vortex spark solar with zastava m70 and putting rounds right thru same hole or within half moa or 1 moa. Only bought 200 rounds to test out ammo and used 200 rounds wolf classic shot 400 rounds and rapid fire spread out more on target but still center mass unless I moved it myself. When shooting with a purpose was able to send rounds thru the same hole. Put apple size hole in paper target shooting thru the heart was very accurate. See what happens when I stretch it out more.

Nice. That's a good group regardless though if the rounds are touching at 50 yards that's not necessarily sub-MOA unless the holes are almost stacked on top each other. I'd be interested in seeing a vid of it being shot.

Lol Armenian?))

Vympel is much more accurate. If I need to buy 7.62x39 I’ll be sure to buy the Bulgarian, Romanian or Turkish stuff.

⁠​⁠@@fatefingerwhy does it matter, it’s all cheaper target ammo. I guess if you’re going for accuracy then I get it but I might get a case of this stuff.

​@itsrass1378 ive only ahot a few boxes i picked up locally, a But out of my wbp i got pertty decent groups for steel case, about 4 moa, so i dont see an issue with it. Other than it being kinda expensive.

Put that into context though. The Arsenal group is 9 inches *including a flier, and across the board even when I tested TelaAmmo against other rounds such as Silver Bear it still shot significantly worse (11 MOA vs. 4.52 MOA). Pretty dishonest to cherry pick out the single instance where there was a flier.

I've done a lot of groups through this and most average ~4 MOA. The TelaAmmo is just particularly bad. Also hopefully this comment actually posts this time, it's disappeared twice.