while he did lose part of his lung, this was many years ago and isn't going to be effecting his future work in terms of sound, although it could effect his overall music and health down the road, but hopefully that won't have to be worried about for 25 years or more..

@@zachbarsher9391 yeah but it's still badass to say he's missing half a lung, it's got to be a great pick up line, lol.

@@zachbarsher9391 but that's only 1½ album from now :(

Theres a interview where Jari says that this track (Sons of Winter and Stars) has 1682 different tracks on it, so I can understand his computer running quite hard :D

@@waiskil yea but not at the same time. Tracks in these softwares don't consume processing power if there's nothing in them. I think I remember him saying that at most, 400sth tracks are playing at once

Jari said in an interview that he didn`t think he could do the drums well enough so he sent the song to Kai who then added the drums. Everything else he did himself.

It hurts me that Wintersun needs to crowdfund for a studio/production

what about Ensiferum ? :) do u like it?

Thanks for the kind words!

Kai's drumming is great, if you want to nerd out on it, specifically for this song, here's a link- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/psVzgdanu67SdI0.html

Kai was known for wintersun before nightwish

Hahto for president!

@Mantvydas Nenartavičius Blame Jari. Damn perfectionist 😅

Martijn van zuilen facts

jajaja sad but true xDDD

Yes!

I would add to that list Land of snow and sorrow

Also add Beyond the Dark Sun and Winter Madness. Still remember having trouble picking my jaw off the floor after buying their first album

I just wish I could see his face when he realizes that this is the same drummer now playing in Nightwish ...

kai drumming still wintersun also. lucky guy have 2 awesome band :)

@@lujalainen1 : No. Heikki Saari is.

@@ImperiumiTV Yes Heikki (Finntroll) is their session drummer. But Kai in a recent interview (on a different react channel) said he is still part of the band and was never out of Wintersun. He never left or was kicked out, but he is just too busy with Nightwish to drum at their live shows, so Heikki stepped in for the Wintersun tours. Btw Finntroll is an awesome band live! The only two other bands were I was dancing instead of moshing that much were Ensiferum and Alestorm beside Finntroll. If you ever have the chance to catch one of those three go to their shows, you wont regret it (although expect some serios muscle pain the days after ^^)

@@Paapyna he refers to Jari's "wait for it" from Wintersun YTP "wait for it"...15 seconds interlude..."wait for it"....Am I right?

My metal journey started out about 8 years ago with Within Temptation. Now I'm into all of the big ones except for Death and Black metal. But I can get into some melodeath on occasion. For me the Big Four in Symphonic metal are: The Gathering, Within Temptation, Nightwish and Epica, but you can also throw Delain in there if you want. Partly I pick these because they were pretty much the first bands that I got into and they are the most popular of the Symphonic metal genre just like Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax (who after all this time i still haven't listened to), and Slayer (also have only listened to one of their songs)(don't worry I have a list that's about 40 ish bands long I need to listen to) are the Big Four of Thrash metal.

@@senditkevin Metal music is a bottomless treasure chest with almost 4000 bands in my home country (Finland) alone, not to mention those over 100K bands in the world. I've been listening to metal occasionally for several decades, but got seriously into it about 2 years ago when I reached 60 years of age. I try to discover new metal bands each day using resources like KZfaq, Spotify, Bandcamp, Metal Storm, Metal-Archives (i.e. Encyclopaedia Metallum), Metal Kingdom, Soundcloud etc.. My favourite genres/subgenres of metal are (After the first three just a list, not a ranking): 1. (Progressive) symphonic (power) metal (e.g. Nightwish, Epica, Avantasia, Metalwings, Dialith, Scardust) 2. Progressive metal (e.g. Dream Theater, Soen, Symphony X, Ayreon, Threshold, Opeth) 3. (Symphonic) melodic death metal (e.g. Wintersun, Insomnium, Mors Pricipium Est, Aephanemer, Amorphis, Omnium Gatrerum) 4. (Extreme)/(pagan)/(viking) folk metal (e.g. Ensiferum, Grai, Arkona, Saurom, Finntroll, Borknagar) 5. Gothic (doom) metal (e.g. Draconian, Trees of Eternity, Katatonia, Swallow The Sun, Paradise Lost) 6. (Progressive) power metal (e.g. Galneryus, Helloween, Blind Guardian, Powerwolf, Sabaton, Stratovarius, Angra, Vandroya) 7. Technical/progressive death metal (e.g. Fractal Universe, Allegaeon, Death, Obscura) 8. Heavy metal (e.g. Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Dio, Rainbow) 9. Alternative metal (e.g. In Flames, Lacuna Coil, Dir En Gray) 10. (Symphonic) death metal (e.g. Septicflesh, Fleshgod Apocalypse, Ex Deo, Genus Ordinis Dei)

Starchild 2.0 lossless 🤤

Starchild or Sadness and Hate have always been my favorite OG wintersun!

@@futtbux agree though the forest that weeps is a close 3rd to me.

Starchild is insane song!

...live, just live. Jari still plays all guitars in the albums.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/naeDotmQ1LTXpZc.html Old but funny clip,mäenpää morning warmup :)

He is sick guitarist :)

And what about Opeth? The Godfather, even though I prefer Wintersun more.

Probably have to add Blind Guardian since they’re kinda the ones who brought symphonic elements into power metal.

@@TalussAthner Probably we have to add Queen since they created Stone cold crazy

What genre of metal something is is of course a point of huge contention. Most of those IMHO are not symphonic metal, but falls into melodic death and melodic extreme. Old In Flames are melodic death. Symphonic would be more Nighwish, Epica, Delain, Within Temptation (and some new bands). Wintersun with this song sounds a lot like new Skeletonwitch , which is classified maybe as melodic extreme metal. But who knows, the best part of metal is the blending of genres.

At the very least, Epica can not not be on this list. Being around since 2002 and literally have 6 strings and 4 back up choir full time...

@elektromanyaro I checked out couple of websites and they all said "only in Finnish". So I'm afraid not

Santiago Martinoli and there you have the problem: symphonic has so many sub-divisions. My symphonic big 4: Nightwish, Sonata Artica, Delain and Kamelot.

Depends if you want to seperate them by female lead or not. Agreed on the Nightwish/Epica/Within Temptation core tho. The other bands I can think of all lean towards another subgenre somehow (Amberian Dawn leans towards power metal, Tristania tends to be labeled as gothic metal etc...)

@Hotaru Tail Are you a Metalocalypse fan ?

@@martijnvanzuilen941 yeah, that's why I think there is no Big 4 like with Thrash...Thrash is very similar from band to band, even considering big differences (the big 4 are vastly different from one another). Symphonic metal is like a complementary sub genre...we usually combine it with other subgenres. Nightwish was symphonic power metal in early albums and in newer albums they have a folky approach, Within Temptation, although I haven't really listened much, has incorporated more pop and electronic elements in the latest releases I think, Kamelot is Power Symphonic, Epica is Symphonic/Death/Prog metal, Dimmu is Symphonic Black metal. Btw I forgot to mention Rhapsody on my "Big 4"

And I left out the distinction of having a female lead singer, which is a fair distinction considering how unusual it is, unfortunately...I think another important band to be added is After Forever although they are not together anymore...and also Therion, although I'm not very familiar with their music...

I just only wish Wintersun would come to my area in the US. I am in Metal hell. LOL Put Ensiferum and Wintesun together? Oh yesss.

Exactly same here and greetings from finland aswell 😬

Love blind guardian... but they are not symph metal.

@@cypherredux2771 agreed, they are more of a typical power metal

@@cypherredux2771 true, I think I just lumped them in to that group because I discovered all those bands around the same time. There are so many choices for a fourth! You could go more OG like Stratovarius or more modern like Within Temptation perhaps?

Delain, Blackbriar, The Gathering, Queensryche, Savatage, Therion ........ Legion.

Septic Flesh, Dimmu Borgir, Angkor, Rhapsody Of Fire, Haggard, Apocalyptica,- the list goes on.

@@ulfdanielsen6009 Personally I would never describe The Gathering or Queensryche as Symphonic metal.

Ulf Danielsen Add Carach Angren

funny thing you brought up ensiferum on the first 2 albums jari was the lead singer and guitarist for them. but ensiferum is legit good.

Ensiferum are amazing but I'm so glad jari went on to do wintersun..🤘🤘🤘

Evil Drive is insanely good too... And Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, Sinergy... EVIL DRIVE - Fire Is Her Name (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zp6Pg8emuLGyh4k.html

Battle Beast Noora is amazing.

Insomnium is a must!

@@maianation So is Finntroll and Korpiklaani

Also Ensiferum, but Stam1na is one of my favs too, fucking awesome band.

Stratovarius

I agree with you wholeheartedly here. But you've actually mixed an American band into that list. Funny enough, Kamelot is an American band. Thomas Youngblood, who is the founding member and the only founding member left, is from Florida.

@@s1lentsymphony607 Yeah, it's the Khan that derped my brain.

My guess for a topp 4 symfonic/power metal big four would probably be Nightwish, Wintersun, Sabaton and umm..... Hmmm............ Fill me in here

Sonata Attica was my fav band... but I truly find it painful to listen to their newer stuff 😪

Это с каких же пор Wintersun записали в sympho metal команды?

You forgot Wintersun

@@Spectre67Productions Wintersun is currently inactive, that's why Kai Hahto joined Nightwish. FYI, Kai Hahto has assisted Nightwish during Dark Passion Play live show as drum technician. During Imaginaerum (Showtime, Storytime Tour), Kai Hahto returned to Wintersun. Back again to Nightwish during Endless Forms Most Beautiful as replacement drummer since Jukka resignation.