Tenet - How High-Concept Becomes Harmful | Anatomy Of A Failure

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3 жыл бұрын

Christopher Nolan's 2020 blockbuster Tenet features an outside of a great sci-fi action adventure movie, but also a pretty empty inside -- all stemming from its all-in mentality with the concept of time inversion. Tenet looks and plays cool but at the same time doesn't feel like much, which becomes very evident if you compare it to something like Inception for example. So in today's Anatomy of a Failure, let's see how -- despite succeeding in concept the way we've talked about in videos about The Old Guard and Gemini Man before -- Tenet suffers from the negative side of high-concept.
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Tenet (2020)
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@cowsandwich
@cowsandwich 3 жыл бұрын
"did you enjoy it?" "loved it" makes an anatomy of a failure video on it
@TomEyeTheSFMguy
@TomEyeTheSFMguy 3 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch half of the video before making this comment?
@yanjirujan193
@yanjirujan193 3 жыл бұрын
Just talk to Star Wars fan about how they love the franchise but hate some of the movies
@austinjones1084
@austinjones1084 3 жыл бұрын
haven't seen the video yet but you can like a movie that's a failure- they're not mutually exclusive
@TheBackOfTheClassroom
@TheBackOfTheClassroom 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomEyeTheSFMguy it's a video about Tenet. The comment before watching the video is completely appropriate 😁.
@tabaflip
@tabaflip 3 жыл бұрын
You know it's possible to notice flaws in stuff you like, right? I could write a novel about how one of my favorite movies of all time, 2004's Dawn of the Dead, has a horrible ending, most characters are shit, save for CJ, whose catch phrase "Fucking nursery school!" I use myself to this day... Etc... A normal person has the capacity to understand their subjective views, while also keep an objective view. If you can't... Well... Got bad new for you.
@chickenlegsTV
@chickenlegsTV 3 жыл бұрын
People need to realize that critiquing a movie doesn't mean it's bad at all.
@shirubionicle
@shirubionicle 3 жыл бұрын
Criticizing means it's bad, CRITIQUING doesn't.
@themasteronhigh1665
@themasteronhigh1665 3 жыл бұрын
@@shirubionicle No, No it doesn't. you can criticize and still agree. See, just did it.
@isekaiguy9113
@isekaiguy9113 3 жыл бұрын
Criticism is simply a way for people who think they are smarter than others to fuel their egos. Because people will continue to love and watch shit no matter how strong the criticism is. Just look at the fans of Transformers - they are just happy and don't give a damn about the critics. The only people, who really should care about critic - are movie-makers, to learn their mistakes. The rest should don't give a shit.
@deadschooled
@deadschooled 3 жыл бұрын
But this dog sh!+ was bad.....
@knowdaqueen177
@knowdaqueen177 3 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin McCann exactly some of my favorite movies are considered “bad” and I love picking apart what’s “wrong” with them just as much as I enjoy watching them.
@MrHantz101
@MrHantz101 3 жыл бұрын
The most impressive thing about this movie for me was my newfound respect for Robert Pattinson. I never watched any of the Twilight films, so my only opinion of him was a sparkly romantic vampire. But I came away from this going, "Yeah, Robert played a damn good role."
@prathamyadav2508
@prathamyadav2508 3 жыл бұрын
He has been incredible in all the movies he's been since Twilight.
@MweepleSyrup
@MweepleSyrup 3 жыл бұрын
Check out The Lightouse. His performance in that gives me hope for his upcoming Batman
@MrHantz101
@MrHantz101 3 жыл бұрын
@@MweepleSyrup I was just talking to a friend last night about that movie. Its on my watch list. You recommend it?
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 3 жыл бұрын
@@MweepleSyrup Pattinson's actually a damn good actor. It's unfortunate that he was stuck in Twilight in his early career but he's proven himself a tour de force in the years since.
@viljamtheninja
@viljamtheninja 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrHantz101 If you haven't seen The Lighthouse yet, then yes, watch it, definitely. It's... very different from your typical blockbuster, but it's a fantastic movie. He was also pretty good in Good Time, which I wasn't too fond of but plenty of other people are and I will say that it's very well-executed.
@SwornSon
@SwornSon 3 жыл бұрын
This is why Interstellar was about the protagonist trying to secure the world's future for the sake of his child instead of some impersonal "save the world" mission.
@semperfi2314
@semperfi2314 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! The relationship between Cooper and his kids in Interstellar is so well done, and for him as the main character, they represent the world that needs to be saved, they are something concrete. Not just a sort of... thing that's here because hey guys apparently the plot needs a goal, so... any ideas
@Xgil2Play
@Xgil2Play 2 жыл бұрын
Nolan did that twice, he can't use it again.
@mlgamings6110
@mlgamings6110 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xgil2Play well, he didn't need to use a child. Like Filmento stated, a friend or something.
@Cobalt360Degrees
@Cobalt360Degrees 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xgil2Play You're missing the point. The point is not 'Nolan should've reused something from one of his previous movies', the point is 'we know he can make high concept that has an emotional heart and he didn't do that in Tenet'.
@heavybattle6650
@heavybattle6650 2 жыл бұрын
Let's not pretend that Interstellar is not dumb as hell too.
@gabevillarrealedits
@gabevillarrealedits 3 жыл бұрын
According to IMDb, once DiCaprio was cast, he spent quite a bit of time working with Nolan to make “Inception” more character driven and less conceptually centered, whereas with Tenet, pretty much the only person who knew what the hell was going on was Nolan himself. It seems his best work is made when he’s challenged and balanced out by his peers.
@YuzuruA
@YuzuruA 3 жыл бұрын
apparently that was also the role of this brother in the script
@aashiv93
@aashiv93 3 жыл бұрын
Damn...really? If this is true, it proves that like George Lucas, Nolan needs someone to rein him in a little in order to get the best of him.
@CapitalFProductions
@CapitalFProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Watch any interview with a Tenet cast member where they’re asked about plot and they’re all just 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
@magiv4205
@magiv4205 3 жыл бұрын
@@aashiv93 Doesn't surprise me. Most good or even great directors don't stand alone. We all need others to bring out the best in us sometimes, and directors are just as human as any of us. If we keep raising directors and filmmakers to godhood, they can get full of themselves, lose their way and will stop accepting criticism because everyone told them they were perfect.
@MAXLD
@MAXLD 3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting because if you ask most people to describe them Inception, I doubt they'll even describe his family drama as a particular key plot point or even refer it at all. I really have a bad time with this type of "if there's no family killed or at least kidnapped, there's no emotional connection by the viewer to the movie or character" argument. Almost every single movie script includes that kind of stuff, someone very close (family member, friend, dog, whatever...) in distress or dead that drives the protagonist to do what he does in the movie. Good lord... talk about cliché. It actually puts me off when I see a movie go for that easy trope to try establish character / audience connection. I mean, it's not like in the real world out there people only get stuff done if their family has been killed or kidnapped. It's fake, cheap and overused hollywood melodrama. If the movie doesn't explain enough the implications and consequences of a major plot going on, then fair enough, I'm on board with kind of discussion. But going with the "we don't understand why the protagonist is invested in this because he has no personal life drama" and/or "if he had a family member killed, then this would make more sense" arguments, it's something I really can't really agree with. Just my opinion, I respect all other points of view, including the ones I listed here and I'm aware that it's how hollywood movies work for general audiences, unfortunately.
@Klishar122
@Klishar122 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: even the actors didn’t have any clue what was going on.
@angelabby2379
@angelabby2379 3 жыл бұрын
not even acting 😵 robert and Elizabeth is great though. i dont even know the character name
@EmpReb
@EmpReb 3 жыл бұрын
@@angelabby2379 it’s literally Protagonist
@jc8153
@jc8153 3 жыл бұрын
That was a theme apparentlt
@melvinch
@melvinch 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : neither do the movie-goers.
@manea7074
@manea7074 3 жыл бұрын
It's not only the actors even the whole crew have no fucking idea what was going on
@franciscodanconia4324
@franciscodanconia4324 2 жыл бұрын
Inception had a concept that you could follow. Dream within a dream within a dream. A fairly linear path. Tenet was two opposite paths going by each other at the same time. And was so hard to follow that actually following the plot was secondary. We spent an hour after the movie discussing how the time thing worked just to wrap our heads around it. And some of us still didn't get it.
@GothamThotSlayer
@GothamThotSlayer Жыл бұрын
And when it's fruitless you just end up not caring about the concept. Anymore and just moved on. That's why I only saw this movie once
@adrienperie6119
@adrienperie6119 Жыл бұрын
It's really meant to be watched multiple times and each time you understand a new thing. I'm a high IQ quick witted person and it took me two viewings to feel comfortable with the concept and 3 to find out who is "Neil" which was amazing.
@Kserijaro
@Kserijaro Жыл бұрын
There is nothing to get. They break their own rules in the movie. Magically having access to processing facility that can field entire squads? Bunch of action that doesn't stop? Annoying ass music? "dont understand it- feel it?" Guy takes a clip with reversed bullets, loads it into a gun.... and now the gun that didn't shoot bullets in a slab, rewinds bullets into reverse clip? They also want us to believe that they packed gallons of real food and air so they can eat and drink while in aired zone in reverse ship? How the fuck do you go to the bathroom? Its a concept that literally isnt feasible. You move forward in reverse time so normal time flows backwards to you ? Why? Why they couldnt make his actions be those that UNDO themselves in realtime. This creates a paradox. How the fuck do you reverse time for entire world and not destroy it? This is literaly the master evil plan. The "algorithm" can reverse whole world... yet doesnt that happen when you reverse one person? Its idiotic to the max. Its all about the shitty mechanics that just don't make sense. And then the story is like "ITS YOU MAN! THIS IS ALL A MASSIVE REVERSE ITS SO DEEP!" Shit ass movie. Inception was amazing purely because Nolan ripped of Paprika by Satoshi Kon that had a mind of a true creative artist.
@adrienperie6119
@adrienperie6119 Жыл бұрын
@@Kserijaro "How the fuck do you reverse time for entire world and not destroy it? This is literaly the master evil plan. The "algorithm" can reverse whole world... yet doesnt that happen when you reverse one person?" See I really don't want to sound superior or anything because I liked the movie and you didn't, every human life is precious because each person has a specific way of experiencing reality and none is superior to another. But I must tell you you didn't understand how the movie's idea works or at least that's what you're saying in your comment. It's not about reversing time, it's about reversing the entropy of objects and peoples relative to the "normal" direction of time. To me this is no more ridiculous than the idea of dreams within dreams, the point is to play around with the meaning of time (which fundamentally doesn't exist, only the present moment ever does). The evil plan is for the people in the future to reverse time for the whole earth because they have basically used up earth's resources. The main idea is people going backwards in time to change the outcome, but remember WE ONLY SEE THE REALITY WERE THEY ALREADY CAME BACK which is confusing at first, seeing characters and objects meet themselves, but there is a basis for it in physics. Personally I'm so used to movies were I end up predicting everything that happens way too early it was so refreshing to be left not fully getting it at first and having to watch it again, and trust me the more you watch it the more you understand it makes a lot of sense, and I feel a lot of people decide to find flaws because they don't want to bother and throw the baby with the bath water, which again is fine not everyone is meant to enjoy everything ! But I would wish on anyone I like to one day experience the joy of finding out just how much thought went into it, and the twists you learn about Neil and other characters. I can't explain it all here because it's already a long ass comment and you might not even read that far. I hope you have a nice day anyway !
@karimshebeika8010
@karimshebeika8010 Жыл бұрын
@@Kserijaro I liked Tenet more than Inception exactly BECAUSE it made me go down a line of thought just like you just did. looking for paradoxes and inconsitensies in movies
@noumena6456
@noumena6456 2 жыл бұрын
As a Nolan fan, i agree 100% with your analysis. My hypothesis on why Tenet has these issues is twofold: 1) Nolan is no longer working his his brother Jonah… a much better WRITTER. 2) Its evident that Nolan tried to emulate the high-concept of Inception with the stale character minimalism and intensity of Dunkirk. Both of those approaches worked great in the two films, but when combined in Tenet it left it lifeless.
@GothamThotSlayer
@GothamThotSlayer Жыл бұрын
It was just like TOOOOO MUCH CONCEPT
@emp9413
@emp9413 Жыл бұрын
I didn't find it lifeless at all, just different.
@Kserijaro
@Kserijaro Жыл бұрын
It felt like him trying to pitch a sale for a shitty product. Instead the product is the main focus and gimmick of a movie that is so barren, its only a gimmick.
@Specsy2004
@Specsy2004 Жыл бұрын
@@Natalia-po5lu it was covid bro +_-
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 Жыл бұрын
I think that trying to manufacture a "emotional motivation" for the hero is dumb and not necessary. Maybe the TENET guy just wanted to save the world from oblivion because its the right thing to do?????
@emilwallraff
@emilwallraff 3 жыл бұрын
This movie clearly lacks the main characters wife getting killed.
@alexmorenoac
@alexmorenoac 3 жыл бұрын
that theme is inverted too: this time is the wife that kills
@emilwallraff
@emilwallraff 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got it, the irony is just that the one time Nolan didn't kill the wife to make it personal, the protagonist isn't relatable enough
@alexmorenoac
@alexmorenoac 3 жыл бұрын
@@emilwallraff totally agree, although for me while it was not relatble it is still somewhat likable due to the actor's charisma
@darkdream1469
@darkdream1469 3 жыл бұрын
@@emilwallraff he wasn't relatable to me too. And i think the reason for this is that, we don't know what his personal motivation/goal in this movie is.
@emilwallraff
@emilwallraff 3 жыл бұрын
@DarkDream Yes, and in every other Nolan movie this motivation evolves around the dead wife.
@joshuaalbertwolfe9986
@joshuaalbertwolfe9986 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on the movie after I watched it: “It was really awesome to watch, but I had no idea what the heck was happening.”
@Nickalzz
@Nickalzz 3 жыл бұрын
I made it through 60% of it and turned to my wife and said do you have any idea what the fuck is going on? She said hell no. This movie had a lot of potential but honestly I think it’s one of the worst I’ve ever seen.
@bobbyhillthuglife
@bobbyhillthuglife 3 жыл бұрын
i defy anyone to name more than two characters’ names after having watched this movie without checking imdb
@su_K3N
@su_K3N 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyhillthuglife the protagonist, Neil, Sator, and Kat
@2kmichaeljordan438
@2kmichaeljordan438 3 жыл бұрын
This movie is better if you turn your brain off. If you try to figure it out, you won’t enjoy this movie at all, it’s not fun to try to go back and try to understand it
@hansgruber9685
@hansgruber9685 3 жыл бұрын
@@2kmichaeljordan438 It was boring af no matter how I watched it.
@jamilosan
@jamilosan 3 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the fact that our protagonist is literally called “protagonist” 😂 Looks like nolan really didnt want us to care for some weird reason
@Sam-ui1ll
@Sam-ui1ll 3 жыл бұрын
It's an analogy that hints at the fact that every time-inversion event (the movie's main plot point) is connected to the MC in the same way that plots often revolve around protagonists.
@Coolcoolcooldude
@Coolcoolcooldude 3 жыл бұрын
Clint Eastwood plays the man with no name.
@Rangeofranges
@Rangeofranges 3 жыл бұрын
I think that was kind of the point. I think Nolan didn’t want you to feel like you were watching characters on a screen do things, but rather experience the film through the eyes of the protagonist, similar to a video game
@papus615
@papus615 3 жыл бұрын
Some of these replies are a neat way of showing the leangths of bullshit people will go to to not call a male character a mary sue, when thats clearly what they are.
@BobExcalibur
@BobExcalibur 3 жыл бұрын
@@papus615 Pro spends most of the movie getting laid out, outmanoeuvred, maimed, confused and non-figuratively blown up.
@LokiSinweave
@LokiSinweave 3 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a bigger focus on Robert Pattinson's character since he was the one with an emotional connection to his mother and the main character.
@rhythmandblues_alibi
@rhythmandblues_alibi 2 жыл бұрын
Same. The Protagonist was so wooden it was boring.
@marcioeduardogenez50
@marcioeduardogenez50 3 жыл бұрын
The definition of that desert war scene was the "I don't know why I am here, all I know is that I must kill" meme
@jove6407
@jove6407 3 жыл бұрын
But they literally had a whole scene with a briefing about why they were there
@Wiley97
@Wiley97 3 жыл бұрын
Warhammer meme?
@kyyy8821
@kyyy8821 3 жыл бұрын
Add that they were literally shooting at air, well it seemed like it.
@Player-kg1ds
@Player-kg1ds 3 жыл бұрын
That's cuz it isn't properly shown who they were shooting at. They were fighting Sator's henchmen
@bluedaylight1243
@bluedaylight1243 3 жыл бұрын
Fr, the movie is realy confusing and thats a shame considering the concept is pretty cool
@amoghpratapsingh4938
@amoghpratapsingh4938 3 жыл бұрын
Come on it's Nolan's first movie. The best hasn't happened yet.
@fishyfish6510
@fishyfish6510 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there.
@AbelXAnne
@AbelXAnne 3 жыл бұрын
damn 😆
@herdiantz8545
@herdiantz8545 3 жыл бұрын
The dark knight hasn't created yet. Wait, how I know?
@Hasan-cq1sz
@Hasan-cq1sz 3 жыл бұрын
Damn took me a bit to figure that out ..
@MrRegD
@MrRegD 3 жыл бұрын
By far the best overview of Tenet’s major drawback to being the Masterpiece it intended to be... emotionally void of personal connections.
@adrienperie6119
@adrienperie6119 Жыл бұрын
Because it was not about that. The fact the main character is litterally nameless and referred to as the protagonist is a big clue. If anyone the movie is about Neil (Max grown up), but you have to watch it a few times to even understand he is the son of the blonde.
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539
@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 Жыл бұрын
I dont think TENET is a great movie. Its over-long and cant maintain interest the whole time but it DOES have enough cool shit to elevate it above the other sci-fi/ Thriller movies. The car chase/ interrogation scene makes it worthwhile
@waltbbadd
@waltbbadd 11 ай бұрын
The lead actor also has zero acting range
@kingsman1713
@kingsman1713 2 ай бұрын
​@@waltbbadd​​ He's Denzel Washington's son and he has a range. Evidence is at the end of the movie when he realizes the truth. Also it's character wise justifiable since he's an experienced special operative who has seen alot of shit, including death. So his lack of emotions makes sense, and maybe even the director insisted on that. Because I'm sure Christopher Nolan isn't an idiot to miss the obviousness of that.
@Force_Of_Habit
@Force_Of_Habit 3 жыл бұрын
My stages during Tenet: 1- Ok this is cool 2- Why should I care? 3- How long until the end?
@ellieadele3769
@ellieadele3769 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely! Well put.
@bensweiss
@bensweiss 3 жыл бұрын
My reactions to Tenet: 1- This should be interesting and the main character is Black! (responding to the trailer) 2 - What's going on? (beginning of the film) 3 - Slow inverse fighting is long, awkward, and tedious like the efforts to establish smart snarky dialogue in the film. 4 - Now the dialogue is long and drawn out. My interest ended at min 47 and I bailed, I just found it really boring.
@ellieadele3769
@ellieadele3769 3 жыл бұрын
@@bensweiss yeah I really agree about inverse fighting. Such a letdown.
@Xantek85
@Xantek85 3 жыл бұрын
In the inverted world, this is Film Perfection.
@The_Viktor_Reznov
@The_Viktor_Reznov 3 жыл бұрын
Not only we have "that's not how time travel works in Endgame" but also now "that's not how time travel works in Tenet". Unbelievable.
@sammythesuesarthouse
@sammythesuesarthouse 3 жыл бұрын
It stil is pretty good. Not flawless but it is a joyride for sure
@isthatronfr
@isthatronfr 3 жыл бұрын
Anotomy of perfection
@michaelmantode4985
@michaelmantode4985 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Uno reverse card!!!!
@josephcastillo5091
@josephcastillo5091 3 жыл бұрын
@@brettlucas1037 Thats why you need to see things in closed loops
@thewhang
@thewhang 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the protagonist's name in Tenet is Protagonist pretty much explains the emotional connection we're supposed to have with the characters.
@foglias
@foglias 3 жыл бұрын
It's a hint for classic spy novels. A lot of them they had a nameless protagonist. It is also part of what Dozi 123 stated, it's a meta discourse on how the audience experience cinema, we're The Protagonist going to watch an story unfold (Cue the first shot is people gathered in a theater) and certain people (director, actors, etc) are in charge in taking the protagonist to learn, explore and take decision into knowing the reason for his mission. Time Inversion is technically a brand new concept in cinema, so it makes sense to have a central figure that's in the blind like us and that at the end he realizes his own roll in a whole operation. Sometimes it feels like a videogame.
@Suburban_Pantsula
@Suburban_Pantsula 3 жыл бұрын
@Đozi 123 EXACTLY
@marcelv.birgelen2166
@marcelv.birgelen2166 3 жыл бұрын
That in it alone is a concept. Unfortunately, it didn't work out, at least not for me. If you want me to care about the characters you create, you need to give me a reason. That's why so many movies have this "save the cat" moment.
@KoolKeithProductions
@KoolKeithProductions 3 жыл бұрын
​@Đozi 123 I've been looking everywhere for a clear and concise video essay of why this movie simply doesn't work, and I finally found it. Everyone else is sucking this movie's long slong just because Nolan directed it, but the truth is as pretty as it is, it's just devoid of any emotional connection at all. I just sat there for 2h30mins watching ppl go backwards and forwards and didn't know or even care why. When it was over I immediately watched Inception, Momento and The Prestige back-to-back-to-back just to get the nasty taste Tenet left out of my mouth. But of course ppl will say I was just too dumb to understand it, which is fine. Just remember that as complicated as Inception's concept was, it was still able to actually make you care about *why* Cobb was there, even if you didn't understand *what* he was actually doing. Tenet fails at this.
@Player-kg1ds
@Player-kg1ds 3 жыл бұрын
@@KoolKeithProductions Yeah, I feel like the characters could have been written better, especially Neil and Kat. Plus, sometimes it feels like the movie is complicated just for the sake of it. I managed to understand most of this movie which is why I like it, but I understand why someone would give it a bad review.
@MrZIONart
@MrZIONart 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your judgement. I felt the same way when I left a cinema "Why should I even care about all of this?"
@willek1335
@willek1335 2 жыл бұрын
Why should you care? Good question. You know how some people find joy in mathematics or physics? I don't, but more power to them. It's affirming joy. Why do people feel awe walking through a huge cathedral? Why get emotional looking at a sunset? Why do people feel moved by music? Same thing. Tenet for me is like solving a mental rubix cube of time. They're all enjoyable aspects of what is beautiful, but i guess designed for different people in mind. I like to say that beauty show that human life is worth while. A negation of nihilism. I hope that helps.
@g.d.graham2446
@g.d.graham2446 2 жыл бұрын
Very true, I was just left confused
@Retr008
@Retr008 2 жыл бұрын
@@willek1335 No,It doesnt it makes me as confused as the movie itself
@tjenadonn6158
@tjenadonn6158 2 жыл бұрын
@@willek1335If I wanted something like that I'd read a theoretical physics textbook. There are ways to convey philosophy in narrative while still having compelling and coherent characters and narratives: even outside of the obvious science fiction options I could point to like the Dune Saga by Brian Herbert, Cixin Liu's "The Dark Forest," Adrian Tchaikovsky's "Children of Time" and Ted Chiang's "Story of Your Life" (adapted by Dennis Villeneuve as "Arrival") there are plenty of stories by full on philosophers that deal with these things that still maintain string characterization and plot coherence. Albert Camus' "The Stranger" and "The Plague," Jean-Paul Sartre's "No Exit," "Molloy," "Mallone Dies," and "The Unnameable" by Samuel Beckett, "100 Years of Solitude" by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. Alan Moore's magnum opus "From Hell" manages to weave ideas about everything from the nature of time to the birth of modern tabloid journalism and true crime culture to anarchist political theory to humanity's relationship with the transcendent around a gripping reimagining of the Jack the Ripper murders. All the philosophy in the world isn't going to be any good if people aren't hooked in to care. If it's all just pretty images and mathematical equations with no character development and no plot or emotional stakes you may as well be doing geometry exercises, and most people don't go to the movies just to watch someone do math.
@tjenadonn6158
@tjenadonn6158 2 жыл бұрын
@@Retr008 It reads like someone with no idea what philosophy is or looks like trying to approach philosophy with the starting point of "Things that make me feel awe=philosophy."
@ianmaluk1
@ianmaluk1 3 жыл бұрын
The guys at South Park called this out over ten years ago, they knew exactly where this type of High-Concept pitch film would lead to. Because the problems that the Tenent suffered from were still present to see in Inception.
@scottmoore4039
@scottmoore4039 3 жыл бұрын
love the ep. Pizza comes in LOLOL
@mrfeynman42
@mrfeynman42 2 жыл бұрын
What episode of SP are you talking about?
@lorenzmayer7734
@lorenzmayer7734 3 жыл бұрын
Never before have I been so offended by something I one hundred percent agree with
@why_tho_
@why_tho_ 3 жыл бұрын
Same here🤣
@lorenzmayer7734
@lorenzmayer7734 3 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin McCann just a simple meme joke, nothing serious lol
@zainsalazar3382
@zainsalazar3382 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the aciddddd
@ToroNero
@ToroNero 3 жыл бұрын
If Nolan sees this he too would feel offended in a good way.
@yourfatboy5359
@yourfatboy5359 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you be offended by this?
@juxe411
@juxe411 3 жыл бұрын
i personally really enjoy it but i can see why people wouldn’t. There’s one thing you can’t argue with is that the imax cinematography is breathtaking
@SausageWithOranges
@SausageWithOranges 3 жыл бұрын
I agree full heartedly.
@aim-9sidewinder550
@aim-9sidewinder550 3 жыл бұрын
i watched it recently and it was good but im still confused on how the time works in the movie.
@wendigo1619
@wendigo1619 3 жыл бұрын
i can argue that imax filmaking takes too much of a spectacle aproach when the best movies have a gritty aproach that puts you right next to the hard hitting action (without relying on quick cuts and sweeping wide shots)... personal opinion though
@aldoblack5982
@aldoblack5982 3 жыл бұрын
I saw it in IMAX and Dolby. Dolby was waaaay better.
@thorthewolf8801
@thorthewolf8801 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but thats not a high bar to pass, is it, when you have money. But a story making sense is much harder.
@E2010Gency
@E2010Gency 2 жыл бұрын
I love tenet as a concept movie, but was disappointed that the character stakes were not higher. If tenet had the emotional core that inception had it would have been one of the best movies ever made IMO
@batarasompolatanrisangka2229
@batarasompolatanrisangka2229 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, it will ruined the Tenet Operations. Because they are dealing with time inversion, you attached with someone you tend to be compromising the operation. That what happen to the protagonist at first time. It's didn't change the past, because what happen is Happened simultaneously... "Ignorance is our amunition", that's the protagonist code that his implemented to the Tenet that his establish in the future.
@Kserijaro
@Kserijaro Жыл бұрын
No, it wouldnt be. Inception mechanics make sense- you craft a dream and you manipulate people with crafted dreams. Its easy to understand. It makes sense and it never breaks this logic. TENET however, messes up its premise 4 times. FOUR TIMES. It literaly changes rules as the plot requires it. Its all bang and no substance.
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 Жыл бұрын
@@Kserijaro yet it 💩on inception heavy
@adrienperie6119
@adrienperie6119 Жыл бұрын
I think it is one of the best movies ever made.
@adrienperie6119
@adrienperie6119 Жыл бұрын
@N It is one of a kind, have you seen it ?
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed both Tenet and Inception both movies stuck with me for days or even weeks after watching them for the first time. But the big difference was Inception sparked my curiosity and touched me emotionally. Whereas the reason Tenet stuck with me was that it was such an awesome and arcane spectacle. The story was hard to understand but the visual spectacle was unparalleled.
@callummurphy3892
@callummurphy3892 3 жыл бұрын
This movie had me sliding around and moving backwards when no one was watching for a solid week
@ethibodeaux7
@ethibodeaux7 3 жыл бұрын
When I watched it a second time I understood so much more shit than the first time
@michadudek8684
@michadudek8684 3 жыл бұрын
SAME XD
@rrson648
@rrson648 3 жыл бұрын
LOL! When I was a kid I used to do the slo-mo "six million dollar man"-run all the time. Complete with the je-je-je-je-je-je-je sound effect! Good times, good times....
@deadschooled
@deadschooled 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethibodeaux7 you watched that dog sh!+ TWICE?! I'm sorry.....
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@aidancicci9327
@aidancicci9327 3 жыл бұрын
i was on the fence about this review until he said that the movie should've ended at the opera house. That's genius level plotting right there
@MoLetalis
@MoLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
At least it did end at the same point in time as the opera house sequence.
@stevenbobbybills
@stevenbobbybills 3 жыл бұрын
He does have a point there, it's the only action scene we don't see both ways.
@damtan6286
@damtan6286 3 жыл бұрын
The guy who save him in the opera is not The Protagonist but his British friend/agent Neil. Because of his keychain in the backpack cmiiw
@NnanaAwa
@NnanaAwa 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Ahmed-sn4ko
@Ahmed-sn4ko 3 жыл бұрын
Agent neil did say at the end tho that we cant change the past, whats happened happened. Or maybe that was nolan's way to buy out of that scenario. It wouldnt make much sense if he was able to change the past in this specific movie, matter of fact it wouldve killed all suspense and inevitably "emotion"
@BrawlerClaws67
@BrawlerClaws67 2 жыл бұрын
You actually managed to successfully put into words what I felt about the movie. The concept was genuinely cool and enjoyable, so it's hard to say the movie was "bad," but I just didn't know or care what was happening outside of the set pieces. Thank you for helping me put my mixed emotions of this movie into words.
@exiszentriker2952
@exiszentriker2952 3 жыл бұрын
I found it strangely refreshing and quite interesting that the protagonist wasn't really emotional invested in anything, that the goals, the meaning of this concept and real emotions were only vague and distant. It serves the point about the nature of time travel. He doesn't have any control, he can't comprehend what is going on, he is a pawn serving the necessity of the world around him. Also I like the view of a protagonist not as subject, as an autonomous hero, but as an observer. Conveying emotion without an protagonist, but through his story is really interesting and I liked this concept, if it was intentional or not. You just look over his shoulder, following his necessary actions and only catch glimpses along the way. The film wasn't perfectly done, even if I don't see the lack of emotional connection through the protagonist as a problem, there are still technical flaws especially regarding the exposition,
@ReelRejects
@ReelRejects 3 жыл бұрын
God I fucking love this channel. It's weird, I agree with everything said...and yet I still was so wrapped up in the theater experience that I still liked the film a lot. Even though I didnt know what the hell was happening or cared about the characters.
@wampameat5076
@wampameat5076 3 жыл бұрын
Holy cow hello there
@mistsu1171
@mistsu1171 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! 🤯This movie has this hypnotise feeling that sucks you into it although we know that there aren't much to the story.
@dr.sleaseball441
@dr.sleaseball441 3 жыл бұрын
this was the best movie i watched and did not understand a thing!
@purpleswag1490
@purpleswag1490 3 жыл бұрын
It’s cause of the lazy cliched script that thinks it’s way smarter than it actually is
@ProsparicDropbear
@ProsparicDropbear 3 жыл бұрын
@@purpleswag1490 Er how is Time Inversion a cliche
@aplix747
@aplix747 3 жыл бұрын
"It's not about the concept, it's about.... sending a message....."
@wisdommakubile2127
@wisdommakubile2127 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@atomicdancer
@atomicdancer 3 жыл бұрын
"Some men just want to watch the world yawn."
@pancake_crab4457
@pancake_crab4457 3 жыл бұрын
A message without content is empty. It's the equivalent of writing an email with a subject but nothing else.
@Dinoslay
@Dinoslay 3 жыл бұрын
”Insanity is like gravity. All it needs is a little push.”
@mykpausa9238
@mykpausa9238 3 жыл бұрын
How bout a magic trick?
@holybalognajabronies2013
@holybalognajabronies2013 3 жыл бұрын
I DEF appreciate this commentary. Inception is one of my favorite films of all time, not just cuz of how cool all of action and concepts of dreams and inspiration and idea implanting are, but b/c I STILL tear up just thinking about that scene of Cobb saying he knew inception was possible b/c he did it to his own wife, and how he KNEW shewant real was b/c of the unbearable weight of the guilt he felt for infecting her mind with the need to wake up from any reality she found herself in. That combination is what made for a truly unforgettable movie.
@GarveyToure
@GarveyToure 3 жыл бұрын
I think the main character's "emptiness" was by design. He wasn't in awe or overly emotional because thats how career soldiers would react.
@saikv9847
@saikv9847 3 жыл бұрын
Dats the problem, every good story protagonist always hve self improvement & emotion aware,
@macogottalent112
@macogottalent112 3 жыл бұрын
@@saikv9847 I agree but you can break the rules for certain stories. Idk why compare two different stories. You don’t do 9+7 the same as you do 9+6x7
@g.d.graham2446
@g.d.graham2446 2 жыл бұрын
I guess so, but it can make the movie seems dull
@agfagaevart
@agfagaevart 2 жыл бұрын
@@macogottalent112 Inception and Tenet ARE the same when you check it; A group of people get involved in altering someone's destiny. Except that, Inception had the better script / direction / emotional connection with the audience that Tenet does not have.
@TeChNoWC7
@TeChNoWC7 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter how cohesive something is if it’s hollow
@TF2Fan101
@TF2Fan101 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno, it kinda hit me when it was revealed that Neil gave his life to save the Protagonist, so knowing he was going to die after getting to know him over the course of the movie left an impact.
@theascendunt9960
@theascendunt9960 3 жыл бұрын
That was right at the end. After almost 3 hours of no emotional investment. Too little too late.
@eliseoponce3071
@eliseoponce3071 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the great concept it is your own perspective and graps I'll be honest is hard but is much better than swallow and plain... Filmento just follows the rules or guidelines of a movie in this case.
@elefes.
@elefes. 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, this is what happens in real life. The closest, most important person in your life can be right next to you, quietly help you here and there, without asking for anything in return. Just because you are important to them. But you don't notice it until it's too late. Only then do you realize how much they have done for you, and you dream of turning back time. Unlike life, the film provides such an opportunity. I wanted to re-watch the film not because of the concept and not because of the supposedly confusing plot, but because of Neal.
@Force_Of_Habit
@Force_Of_Habit 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because Neil is the only remotely likeable character.
@Sirrajj
@Sirrajj 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was pretty imotional and revisiting the movie, it makes whole movie a lot better, and a lot of things make sense which we first time missed
@Simon-ow6td
@Simon-ow6td 3 жыл бұрын
I really felt that watching the movie it was constantly cool and an interesting puzzle to wrap your head around, but I never cared about any of the stakes or characters so I never felt invested.
@Shrimp_Insurance
@Shrimp_Insurance 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly this, also I really liked the main actor they chose but unfortunately felt some of his lines fell flat and didn't reach Nolan level caliber
@bozitrapboy
@bozitrapboy 3 жыл бұрын
i think that's just what is, a fun movie to wrap your head around with
@connorbennett7466
@connorbennett7466 3 жыл бұрын
@@bozitrapboy First 10 minutes were "fun" I guess, rest of the movie is obnoxious emotionless and aggravatingly confusing
@funofboredom
@funofboredom 3 жыл бұрын
@@connorbennett7466 I have no idea what was going on in the end battle. Bunch of guys with blue and red badges shooting but we can't see what they are shooting at. We hardly see any bad guys or maybe the bad guys are wearing the same color uniforms as the good guys? And then they shoot RPGS at the same time at a building and it both explodes and implodes, and I understand that it's supposed to be the center point of the mission or something, but why....?
@connorbennett7466
@connorbennett7466 3 жыл бұрын
@@funofboredom I have no idea Nolan tried so hard to be smart with this and forgot to make sense and the movie just fell flat on its face
@boredbagel244
@boredbagel244 2 жыл бұрын
And now I learned I can still love a movie while agreeing with criticisms directed to it. This was an amazing video.
@gedrictudio
@gedrictudio 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that is one good analysis of TENET. I have to say though, I think ending with the protagonist looking over Kat was the right way to approach the finale, especially with his realization that he is the mastermind (implied though) behind the whole ordeal. That familiarity is with protecting Kat and Max (who is implied to be Neil). It goes full circle. I do agree that it really feels emotionless and that's because of how they made Washington react to the whole thing. I'd accept those from Neil and Ives, because somehow there's a part of them that has an inkling of what would happen, because of the concept of inversion. That glimpse of shock and wonder should be coming from the Protagonist. Wherein throughout the film he'll always act surprised because he should be, since this is new to him, and by the finale, when he realizes he is the mastermind behind TENET in the future, he'll have that blank emotionless state that he exuberates throughout the film. That would have been a wonderful character arc instead.
@FinneasJedidiah
@FinneasJedidiah 2 жыл бұрын
I do have to ask what you mean when you say 'implied' because I'm pretty sure it's explicitly stated
@jdraven0890
@jdraven0890 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically (and probably intentional) the most spectacular parts of the movie were the Protagonist failing to use inversion to change things - he ends up literally fighting himself.
@oranbenton9563
@oranbenton9563 2 жыл бұрын
What's happened happened
@mediy0
@mediy0 2 жыл бұрын
Whats happened happened.
@twoskill423
@twoskill423 2 жыл бұрын
Whats happened happened
@JacobGrim
@JacobGrim 2 жыл бұрын
What's happened happened.
@druznocte7417
@druznocte7417 2 жыл бұрын
kate save thank you
@Ryan-the-Rocketeer
@Ryan-the-Rocketeer 3 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite part of TENET was when the guy in the gas mask leaned in to say "mumnurmurmmgnfgmmrr" and the protagonist replied from his mask "norfgmurrnnmrnukgnajat" it went something like that I think. anyway, that shit really made me think deep about this movie. 16:41 basically sums up the ending nicely XD
@Alex-rh8mr
@Alex-rh8mr 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@taurusdragon4763
@taurusdragon4763 3 жыл бұрын
agree my man
@berengustav7714
@berengustav7714 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone sounds like Bane..
@Cesonico
@Cesonico Жыл бұрын
Really liked the analysis. Still think TENET is an experimental concept more than a typical blockbuster so there is ultimately no need for forced emotional stakes to be present. The way the movie has let me thinking about so much stuff has no comparison and I wouldn't change it for nothing.
@tlotpwist3417
@tlotpwist3417 3 жыл бұрын
The film has you in a constant race of trying to get what just happened, which prevents you to get what is happening, and leaves you out of cpu space to treat what will happen
@SpiderXweaponX
@SpiderXweaponX 3 жыл бұрын
You never go full CONCEPT.
@JoelFavela1037
@JoelFavela1037 3 жыл бұрын
That reference tho.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you do! The fault is with those who go very deep with concept, but don't have the balls to commit 100%. At least Tenet commits fully, and I for one respect that. Not some half assed shit that wants to try but doesn't dare and plays it a bit safe. I honestly didn't care about the lack of emotional investment in this case, because the concept was strong enough to stand on its own imo. I love emotion-driven movies, but there are quite a few of them, especially from Nolan, so seeing this take was refreshing.
@vrika4280
@vrika4280 3 жыл бұрын
That's M. Night's problem as well, he goes full Shyamalan...
@PhotonShower
@PhotonShower 3 жыл бұрын
haha..
@nir24adler
@nir24adler 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@h.ar.2937
@h.ar.2937 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: it was Leo who wanted his character to have more of a relatable aspect to it. Otherwise, Inception would have been just like Tenet (emotionally)
@louierubio
@louierubio 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa really? Where can I read this?
@h.ar.2937
@h.ar.2937 3 жыл бұрын
@@louierubio I saw this at an interview where this was mentioned. I forgot which one it was. (Btw I made the assumption that the character would have been like TP from Tenet) but basically Leo’s character didn’t have this emotional connection to it originally and Leo wanted to change that and Nolan liked it
@louierubio
@louierubio 3 жыл бұрын
@@h.ar.2937 I researched and saw some pieces talking about it but not in depth. Would love to see the script before and after the changes.
@roberthoward9500
@roberthoward9500 3 жыл бұрын
So with no emotion and no real connection to any of the characters? I watched Tenet and I still know nothing about the main character and found it difficult to care if he died.
@louierubio
@louierubio 3 жыл бұрын
@@roberthoward9500 I sometimes wonder if casting could’ve changed that. Like casting maybe Mahershala Ali? And maybe a less tall female protagonist? And maybe a properly Russian actor instead of Branagh? I’m probably wrong though.
@lordlucifermorningstar
@lordlucifermorningstar 2 жыл бұрын
"There can't be a movie that cannot be understood after watching the 30th time" Nolan : "Yes."
@flipo010
@flipo010 Жыл бұрын
Bro does not have the ability to process information given by the movie and come up with conclusions🙁
@xyx2188
@xyx2188 Жыл бұрын
Another good example of bringing a concept to life was how people reacted seeing Transformers for the first time. Sam was surprised and even the military was caught off guard seeing a deception for the first time. It also makes the characters feel more like real people.
@denmanfite3156
@denmanfite3156 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with "some things" going "backwards" in time is it makes it ridiculously hard to tell what is happening on the screen. There were long sections of this movie where I thought to myself "What the fuck is even going on." and it ALWAYS had a component of "going backwards" happening at the same time.
@Profile__1
@Profile__1 3 жыл бұрын
I can definitely understand if you disagree with this statement, but in my opinion that's a MAJOR benefit of watching this movie. It's fantastic to watch it several times. The first time I watched it with someone, we both almost immediately agreed to watch it again right after. Especially with the covid quarantine, the movie being difficult to watch in one watch was a bonus, as we could literally pause/rewatch however many times we wanted to. It didn't feel confusing, so much as it felt like I just wasn't getting it--that if I watched it again, I could appreciate it on an even deeper level.
@denmanfite3156
@denmanfite3156 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Profile__1 I see the appeal of that and it's sort of like scrolling back a great audio book or rereading a page. I find that to be awe-shattering when it comes to film, especially one intended to have a high-stakes energy of "hurry up and go" only to then require you to roll back 35 seconds as you try to "get" what just happened. Suddenly there's no urgency and the tension is lost. I don't think film as a medium lends itself to this kind of story telling. It works in other places- I don't think you're wrong at all, but I have to say it's the same as replaying parts of a video game because you are dying to a silly mistake. It takes the energy out and ups the frustration.
@Profile__1
@Profile__1 3 жыл бұрын
@@denmanfite3156 Normally I'd agree with the energy being drained, but I think it's because the film's whole concept is the flow of time being inverted that makes it watchable to rewind, replay, and rewatch. It just feels like a different, new way to see the same thing. Kind of like that 5 word puzzle the movie is heavily based on.
@bluedaylight1243
@bluedaylight1243 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, i think that "backwards" is really confusing sometimes, but it also really cool in some scene, but yeah. Doesnt really work
@TubesForNoobs
@TubesForNoobs 3 жыл бұрын
I understand it was hard for you to follow but it’s not the kind of movie you can sit and just casually enjoy, if you’re vividly paying attention to the scenes and asking yourselves questions like “wait why did he leave the other guy to run off after he took his mask” “why did he lie that he finished him off”, then later on I’m the film all your questions are answered and it makes sense. The story is played forward and it goes backward to show you what was happening in the background of the forward timeline. Near the end you have a mixture of forward and backward simultaneously and numerous times but it does make sense when you actually sit down to figure it out and it’ll become way more enjoyable when you do
@CatsMeowPaw
@CatsMeowPaw 3 жыл бұрын
The dialog was so washed out when I saw the movie that I honestly sat there for 2 hours wondering why the protagonist cares at all about the woman he's trying to save.
@kc5997
@kc5997 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't.
@kc5997
@kc5997 3 жыл бұрын
@Akshay 004 whether it makes sense or not is irrelevant when you don't care about the characters. That's a big failure in my book.
@killofilms4162
@killofilms4162 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really get the whole thing that we need to care about the characters, I've always found it emotional manipulative to put something like a dead wife or whatever for the Protagonist. For me if there is reason for the Protagonist to be doing what he's doing (saving the world in this case) I don't have a problem.
@mirziyob
@mirziyob 3 жыл бұрын
@@killofilms4162 i think "dead wife" is just a way of saying, not literal, could be anything, for example i really liked (and it wasn't mentioned here) that prot. was chosen by being tortured and passing the test (does this mean pattinson did too?? huh, they could have talked about it, but they just acted like it never happened) and that immediately after he was like "i resign" which i was so in for, but then bossman says "you're dead so you can't resign" and the prot. is like ok. Like seriously?? i know he is like taciturn and cold but didn't they just pull out your teeth?? that pain could have been a motif for something awesome, yet it was NOTHING. dull movie
@killofilms4162
@killofilms4162 3 жыл бұрын
@Akshay 004 OK get what you're saying,my opinion movie is brilliant and I think people will appreciate it after multiple viewing. Maybe I was focused on the concept and how things were going (which blew my mind) and I wasn't trying to connect with the characters. This is what I've always loved about si-fi movies; the concept, how it works, how it affects the world, what the characters can with it. A lot of si-fi movies don't go far with their concept, this the movie that did for me
@karangupta1825
@karangupta1825 2 жыл бұрын
So, Christopher Nolan without his brother Jonathan Nolan is basically another Michael Bay. Interesting!!
@artistsamk6984
@artistsamk6984 2 жыл бұрын
Ha actually yes and no
@konradschulz7567
@konradschulz7567 2 жыл бұрын
This film is different not only in its concept, but also in its concept as a film. It can't be compared with other films like interstellar or inception, because it aims to make the watcher feel or think different things than those movies. You can't judge a turtle by its ability to fly. This movie really is basically only about the concept and the paradoxes and to make you think about it and have fun figuring out how it would work. It is a puzzle, it has no meaning, it is only made to look badass and amazing and to make you put the pieces together.
@willek1335
@willek1335 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I think some people think conceptually. They're highly open to experience. To solve these high brow concepts is joyous in itself. They can endure the uncertainty of not knowing. When I look at art, I want to look at it a thousand times and still discover new things. That's art to me.
@loshobian
@loshobian 2 жыл бұрын
@@willek1335 you can still discover a thousand new things in shitty art too
@Allagi22
@Allagi22 Жыл бұрын
I guess? So you're saying it's just a showcase for cool film sequences and a puzzle with no regard to story or character development? Mystery movies need a coherent through line so that the audience member is ABLE to put the puzzle pieces together. If you apply any logic to Nolan's bizarre introverted entropy premise the plot falls apart.
@as7river
@as7river 11 ай бұрын
I think film was the wrong format for this kind of story/concept, then. Maybe a book would've worked better because a movie without emotion is just a documentary.
@bestfoodreviews2770
@bestfoodreviews2770 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked this movie, but man, that alternate ending at the opera house would've drastically changed this movie for the better.
@revel8683
@revel8683 3 жыл бұрын
there’s an alt ending?
@aushafe-rabbi7081
@aushafe-rabbi7081 3 жыл бұрын
What alt ending? 😯
@CP-uw4ts
@CP-uw4ts 3 жыл бұрын
What?!?!?!
@samsamsammy2013
@samsamsammy2013 3 жыл бұрын
??
@benjamingentile1660
@benjamingentile1660 3 жыл бұрын
Well memed, my friend, well memed
@doxazo5512
@doxazo5512 3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me his first name is "The", last name "Protagonist"
@juanordonezgalban2278
@juanordonezgalban2278 3 жыл бұрын
I haden't noticed. Thanks for the clarification
@Win090949
@Win090949 3 жыл бұрын
His middle name?
@tashkagc6585
@tashkagc6585 3 жыл бұрын
@@Win090949 "Black"
@ellugerdelacruz2555
@ellugerdelacruz2555 3 жыл бұрын
LOL.🤣
@kizilm5315
@kizilm5315 3 жыл бұрын
@@tashkagc6585 you win
@TheLoveday100
@TheLoveday100 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing how he is a seasoned professional, I understand his lack of emotional response. Furthermore, I felt fresh and more interested while making questions and thinking rather than being taken by the hand and shown the movie like a walk rather than an interesting experience. True, there is no emotion, but false, I did care a lot.
@notundermywatch3163
@notundermywatch3163 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Precisely what people don´t understand. He is jaded... Let´s just leave alone the fact that this guy actually swallowed a ciyanid capsule and was brought back from the dead... When a dude has spent a good part of his career being a high end professional spook and hitman why do people expect him to be seeing rainbows and doing backflips at everything he discovers.
@jedidiahcarmichael5747
@jedidiahcarmichael5747 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The mystery of the reverse bullet and his part to play in solving it had me interested. I feel that trying to give him emotional ties can become cliche very quickly. He's a man doing a job; a job where being partly uninformed is expected.
@jorgeantoniotorrico7105
@jorgeantoniotorrico7105 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, how many movies are released about a lost partner or love one, to try to save them or to gain retribution about them. Finding a movie with minimal unnecessary emotional baggage is actually refreshing for me.
@jfracchia
@jfracchia 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, today i knew of this channel and its awesome, keep going, I already watch 4 videos of. cheers!
@yamaha28
@yamaha28 3 жыл бұрын
in a nutshell, we approached watching Tenet like expecting a bestselling novel, but it turned out to be a technical thesis on quantum physics
@whosaidthat84
@whosaidthat84 3 жыл бұрын
Made up quantum physics*
@AlexanderVFX
@AlexanderVFX 3 жыл бұрын
What if... Instead of going forward we go backward? 🙄
@zuhayrkhan7103
@zuhayrkhan7103 3 жыл бұрын
@@whosaidthat84 Thank you for pointing this out. Every time they brought up entropy or mentioned "laws of physics" I just cringed. If entropy was reversed, reactions could not take place and life would cease to exist. They told the protagonist that he couldn't breathe inverted air, however, many times he was seen without the oxygen mask while in the inverted dimension. Additionally, if everything was inverted, why weren't the oceans or the puddle at the beginning of the inverted dimension frozen? I get that Nolan wanted to push the boundaries of cinematics, but at least have a 15 minute consultation with an actual physicist about your concept. And if not, leave the science to people who research it and coin your concept as something else without bringing up "nuclear fission" and other chemical/physics theories.
@whosaidthat84
@whosaidthat84 3 жыл бұрын
@@zuhayrkhan7103 agreed! And what does that say about the neurons in his brain and the blood pumping through his veins? Is that all inverted? I doubt that's good news for the human body. Ant Man and the MCU fully embraces the whacky side of "scientific theory." It's all made-up and supposed to be ridiculous. But Nolan wants us to believe that this is borderline "hard sci fi" it it clearly isn't. It's okay to go full science fiction but don't try to make us believe this could really happen.
@yamaha28
@yamaha28 3 жыл бұрын
Made up physics is fine, as long as it is entertaining and engaging; this is anything but.
@sevenkaylive
@sevenkaylive 3 жыл бұрын
Your point is probably correct, but for me, my Curiosity was enough to not even notice the lack of emotional 'why's
@litteralyjustsam5262
@litteralyjustsam5262 3 жыл бұрын
That's quite dangerous because when the concept is understood, the film won't become rewatchable. I watched the film 2 times and it was much more boring the 2nd second, which is different to inception which I've watched more times than 2. (in my opinion)
@magnarthebread1993
@magnarthebread1993 3 жыл бұрын
I agree on this! Also, I feel like the lack of emotional depth adds to the premise of us not even knowing the protagonist's name. It's very mysterious and I think its appropriate for the themes of the movie.
@litteralyjustsam5262
@litteralyjustsam5262 3 жыл бұрын
@@magnarthebread1993 You can have a mysterious character without them lacking emotion.
@TheGrejp
@TheGrejp 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. People don't explore scientific concepts they don't understand just because of personal emotional reasons, they do it out of curiosity. Tenet being a massive physics problem, I think this is quite suitable. I certainly would explore inverted weapons just because they are scientifically interesting. Add to that other mysterious inverted items mentioned at the beginning, the remnants of a destructive war, and that's reason enough.
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
@@litteralyjustsam5262 in your opinion. Cinema is a visceral experience.
@abwrenchslinger
@abwrenchslinger Жыл бұрын
I think as far as a more emotionally driven story goes, following Neil's origin/storyline would probably have had a bigger impact. He had more reason to be invested in the entire operation from the start. He had a reason to go back to the opera house inverted to save Protag, because that's his mentor and close friend in the future, as it's revealed when he goes to "close the loop" at the end by picking the lock to the gate. It's unfortunate that the emotional connection between the Protagonist and Neil isn't shown until the very end. There is also the theory that Neil is Max, Kat's son, inverted to travel to the past. This theory isn't officially confirmed, but it could have made for an interesting sort of 12 Monkeys style twist.
@carrot7215
@carrot7215 3 жыл бұрын
I understood it and loved it the first time but this movie is one of those you have to watch multiple times to understand
@yanjirujan193
@yanjirujan193 3 жыл бұрын
"oh cool, let's just make the climax where the protagonists shooting the enemies that didn't appear on screen"
@imperium9881
@imperium9881 3 жыл бұрын
It's Nolan's way of filming he doesent want to derive attention from main characters. Just look at Dunkirk. WE NEVER see the Germans because we have established they are bad. In this movie we establish the PMCs are bad too.
@Callie_Cosmo
@Callie_Cosmo 3 жыл бұрын
@@imperium9881 also inception, most of the time they’re shooting at the subconscious of whoever’s brain they’re inside of, faceless, nameless goons who die after one shot, little better than zombies
@imperium9881
@imperium9881 3 жыл бұрын
@@Callie_Cosmo subconscious has no real emotion or soul and it's the same with tenets PMC coz they have no real significance to the story so why should we focus on them more than our protagonist?
@Callie_Cosmo
@Callie_Cosmo 3 жыл бұрын
@@imperium9881 yes, I’m not arguing with you, I’m adding more evidence towards your point, I agree what what you are saying, not everyone on the internet is itching for a fight
@CrowAtNight
@CrowAtNight 3 жыл бұрын
@@imperium9881 Except there’s lots of historical common knowledge about the Germans in WW1 while the PMC’s are left pretty vague
@user-do1gu3hu5l
@user-do1gu3hu5l 3 жыл бұрын
I like two thing about your channel: 1. How you deal with haters. 2. The fact haters even exist. Lol. You are one of the most polite, constructive and mild online critic i ever see, and still there are people who agressive towards you and your content. This is sorta funny :)
@yourmomskitchen3236
@yourmomskitchen3236 2 жыл бұрын
It's because SJW's think he's a sexist.
@weluvfoodonyoutube1453
@weluvfoodonyoutube1453 2 жыл бұрын
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@sparshhardik
@sparshhardik 2 жыл бұрын
the most perfect analysis on TENET. great job!
@ibnmianal-buna3176
@ibnmianal-buna3176 3 жыл бұрын
Can we also talk about how the dialogue is so hard to hear half the time? I could barely follow the movie because of that.
@Number1boombaboomba
@Number1boombaboomba 3 жыл бұрын
Yes thank you! And the lead actor kept trying to do this assertive mumble sentence finishing thing the whole time.
@jeremytitus9519
@jeremytitus9519 3 жыл бұрын
Not the first time I've had that experience with a Nolan movie, either.
@RhantheSlayer
@RhantheSlayer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for me the sound design was terrible done. One moment I’ve turned up the volume to hear the actors, then I’m rushing to turn it down because the music is destroying my eardrums
@kroothound
@kroothound 3 жыл бұрын
I physically couldn't understand the final big scene. Like good job explaining the villains plan across a phone in a battle scene with music blaring. What even
@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser
@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser 3 жыл бұрын
Why write and direct a film, that your audience has to get their heads round, and follow precisely whats going on, only to have mumbling dialogue, loud background noise, and an over bearing soundtrack? Why? Chris WHY?
@choosecheese3225
@choosecheese3225 3 жыл бұрын
10:35 is that Film Theory music in reverse? LOL
@bangtwitterandtwicetagram830
@bangtwitterandtwicetagram830 3 жыл бұрын
Choose Cheese that was gold
@juanordonezgalban2278
@juanordonezgalban2278 3 жыл бұрын
OMFG
@h.s6352
@h.s6352 3 жыл бұрын
Lack of emotional core is a problem but honestly the biggest issue I had with Tenet, which probably made the other issues worse, is that it's confusing and does such a terrible job at explaining its mechanics seemingly on purpose. Whenever I say this to people especially online I'm met with the ridiculous response of "you're meant to watch it more than once (or twice) to get it" and like... No? No I am not meant to do that. I understand missing some cool details on the first viewing, but if the very basics of how your movie works need me to watch it more than once to be sure I understand what's going on ,then that's definitely on you as a filmmaker, and that's absolutely a weakness in the script and in the direction. Funnily enough this could have been avoided if they just cut a little bit from the mind-numbing and pointlessly long final battle, and used that time better instead. Movies aren't supposed to make the audience feel dumb and frustrated that they're leaving the first viewing with way too many questions about what they just watched. Mystery, high concept non-linear storytelling, elaborate and convoluted science fiction, these are all cool things to build your movie around, but you should make it so the audience isn't lost and utterly confused by the end of it. This was never as issue for me in Inception, Memento, Interstellar or any of Nolan's other movies. Inception is probably one of my top 3 favorite movies.
@realdavebob
@realdavebob Жыл бұрын
Yep. If the movie makes me *want* to see it again of course I’ll go watch it again. If I’m leaving the room scratching my head, I’ll probably not see it again.
@flipo010
@flipo010 Жыл бұрын
So basically you want a dumbed down version of tenet? I understand where you are coming from but I really don’t agree that it’s the films fault that you didn’t understand it…
@SosaRickGrimes
@SosaRickGrimes 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video 👏
@slartymcguarty2954
@slartymcguarty2954 3 жыл бұрын
This movie is the physical manifestation of watching a movie while extremely tired, and napping every 5 minutes, and then trying to recall what the movie was about to your friend the next day
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 3 жыл бұрын
Uhhh.... There was a black dude and everything moved backward. The wife hated her evil husband and she kills him.
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
This movie is intense and riveting if you watch it right
@tabaflip
@tabaflip 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonymartensen3164 worst argument possible, mate. If I gotta read a manual to watch a movie right, I just won't, bro.
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
@@tabaflip you don't but ok
@kleber3782
@kleber3782 3 жыл бұрын
@@tabaflip Is watching a movie that complicated that you need a manual? Damn
@Marvsterer
@Marvsterer 3 жыл бұрын
I love how our man Fil Mento calls the main hero of the movie, Pro Tagonist by his name.
@elvibora6218
@elvibora6218 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know his name
@paddipat
@paddipat 3 жыл бұрын
@@elvibora6218 His name is "Protagonist"
@SNNetwork
@SNNetwork 3 жыл бұрын
did u even see the fuxking movie thats his nane
@noobmasterruben5167
@noobmasterruben5167 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@seanjames6000
@seanjames6000 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@SuperWhofan1
@SuperWhofan1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Spot on
@nightfallzero3752
@nightfallzero3752 3 жыл бұрын
7:10 They were not there to steal inverted bullets, but a fake painting through which the wife of the antagonist is held hostage. They expect help from her in exchange.
@tlshortyshorty5810
@tlshortyshorty5810 3 жыл бұрын
I had to look that up to understand that. When I watched it I thought they were after inverted weapons.
@RahulGupta-cn2hh
@RahulGupta-cn2hh 3 жыл бұрын
Its neither the painting or inverted bullets, they were there so they can found what sator is hiding in the facility. And what they found there was the machine time pincer machine. ( those two cylindrical machines )
@scorpionz44
@scorpionz44 3 жыл бұрын
The emotional connection would've helped but I just think Nolan actively tried to avoid that. ALl his movies have some "love" element and maybe he tried to get away from that for once. The ONLY thing I thought was annoying was that there was SO much exposition, and if it was delivered in a less monotone manner, it would've made up for the lack of emotion
@paradise_valley
@paradise_valley 2 жыл бұрын
True. You gotta feel for the guy. His brother Jon added a love story to his Memento Mori short story concept he used for Memento. His following films have love play a part as well. It’s refreshing to not have on here, and the Sator-Kat-Protagonist love triangle they hint at early in is nothing more than business on both sides thank goodness.
@StephNuggs
@StephNuggs 2 жыл бұрын
Tenet is no different. The love between the mother and her son and maybe the protagonists love for her. Just badly established and lacking in depth. Simple but he didn't do it well enough
@Prodbyjah464
@Prodbyjah464 2 жыл бұрын
Dunkirk, prestige, following, insomnia have nothing don’t have any love elements but ok
@OlafavonGoeding
@OlafavonGoeding 2 жыл бұрын
Nolan has been actually criticized for lackluster character motivations and lack of "humanity". Apparently, he tried to fix that with what Anne Hathaway character had to say about love in Interstellar lol.
@Prodbyjah464
@Prodbyjah464 2 жыл бұрын
@@OlafavonGoeding you realise interstellar actually has strong emotional moments, it’s not just oh Anne Hathaway said something about love so we must cry no, we actually feel it when cooper makes it off millers planet and finds out he lost 23 years as he watches all the old videos of his kids, it’s actually heartbreaking when he realised he was Murphy ghost all along and he tries to stop himself from leaving. Next time don’t say a stupid comment with even worse grammar without knowing shit from it.
@manuelquintana3401
@manuelquintana3401 3 жыл бұрын
“Going too far with your concept “ *Laughs in evangalion *
@madkoala2130
@madkoala2130 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot one point... A FU*KING ENDING (which there is none and main guy is a pussy)
@cassandracastro2759
@cassandracastro2759 3 жыл бұрын
It's because the Cruel Angel's Thesis I guess.
@Leo-xz7tv
@Leo-xz7tv 3 жыл бұрын
evangelion really had enough emotions
@N0noy1989
@N0noy1989 3 жыл бұрын
evangelion made you feel stuff and think about things though. this one just made me think it looked awesome and then move on
@marcogianesello6083
@marcogianesello6083 3 жыл бұрын
Except evangelion was complex while tenet is confusing, big difference, in tenet a good 70% of the dialogue is charaters explaining shit to one another, just so that the audience has some reason to get to the next setpiece, it just fails in delivering information organically, it's not complex and layered, it just requires a slide presentation to remember why they're shooting and who they're shooting at
@nitupsar
@nitupsar Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you!! A very good analysis!!!
@addictstatic
@addictstatic 2 жыл бұрын
that was awesome. thank you.
@OdysseyTag
@OdysseyTag 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually a Nolan film I'd love to see have a sequel (or prequel ahem). I feel like there's so much potential conceptually as well as space to grow narratively.
@mikfhan
@mikfhan 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah a short miniseries like Chernobyl could have flashed out more of the time travel and character motivations, giving them a chance to show proper reactions and easing audience into the whole time inversion thing, it's weird enough to wrap your head around another character already having carried out an action, and what you see is just the events leading up to it in reverse order. AND you can invert the time inversion at any point, AND the whole pincer move thing. Trippy.
@fegeleinherman8587
@fegeleinherman8587 3 жыл бұрын
A Tenet series sound like a good idea honestly it'll be probably be confusing as f*ck tho
@Zippypeepee
@Zippypeepee 3 жыл бұрын
This should have been his first miniseries.
@profjoshi6326
@profjoshi6326 3 жыл бұрын
It is a great theme for an series, because the movie shows only half of the story and the potential for more is endless, like they could make a show about how TeneT was created or the technologie itself, or who the bad guys in the future are, or how....
@logicrules5793
@logicrules5793 3 жыл бұрын
Straight up. His lack of character development I'm sure would come around in the second one because it's most likely a prequel. Because of the time travel aspect, the story is told backwards and we effectively just saw the big ending and next movie will be the character building feels that he wanted. People calling this movie bad are just confused because they don't have all the info. Guaranteed once they see the second one they'll reflect and see it as much better. It's like how some songs start out slow and eventually ramp up to a heart pounding beat. I've heard plenty songs that will be gentle for the first minute thirty seconds and then give you a heart attack. If you only like energetic music you might stop listening 30 seconds in and have a bad opinion of the song. But if you listen to the whole thing you might enjoy it. It's the same thing here if you don't watch the second movie you can't accurately judge the story I hope to see a lot more from this franchise
@theanimationguy9844
@theanimationguy9844 3 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is. . .I should watch Inception for the hundredth time?
@dkey201
@dkey201 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@cinematalk6648
@cinematalk6648 3 жыл бұрын
definately
@kzaverr8418
@kzaverr8418 3 жыл бұрын
You should watch it yesterday.
@DS-Pakaemon
@DS-Pakaemon 3 жыл бұрын
Totally.
@SuperOmnicronsj44
@SuperOmnicronsj44 3 жыл бұрын
Or .. make your own film if Nolan is such a "failure". LOL!
@PeteyBirdd
@PeteyBirdd 2 жыл бұрын
I had no clue what was going on in this and fell asleep halfway through it, needless to say best movie ever made 10/10 better than the dark knight
@richardcardoza1895
@richardcardoza1895 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying everything I was thinking
@hippotripo6145
@hippotripo6145 3 жыл бұрын
As much of an impact the lack of emotional motivation has, I’d still rather have better sound mixing.
@RomnysGonzalez
@RomnysGonzalez 3 жыл бұрын
The music in this film was so lacking. Was so loud at times and odd
@kaancakir5083
@kaancakir5083 3 жыл бұрын
@@RomnysGonzalez Hans Zimmer was not responsible this time
@doge8825
@doge8825 3 жыл бұрын
@@RomnysGonzalez the fuck you going on about? The music was *the best* part about this movie period
@dimitri4457
@dimitri4457 3 жыл бұрын
For most of the movie I kept seeing the clip from Office where Michael is screaming "LOUD NOISES"
@lordhelmchen3154
@lordhelmchen3154 3 жыл бұрын
The musicwas pretty good. I love the concepts of "time" that the music tells you of and the inverted/reversed music was a cool touch. The problem is, just as many people think, the sound mixing itself. Like sometimes dialogues were reeeally hard to understand, despite me sitting in a cinema where the sound volume is generally pretty high. Watching this movie at the TV at home with normal volume will probably be a nightmare. xD This is especially bad for a movie that gives the viewer only sparse information and is highly confusing. Miss a few explanations and your confusion might increase so much it reaches the "ah fuck it, I don't care. This confusing mess is not worth my brain cells"-level.
@colorblocked1
@colorblocked1 3 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic. Highlighted everything I felt but couldn’t articulate.
@captaindonut5240
@captaindonut5240 3 жыл бұрын
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@JR-he6fn
@JR-he6fn 9 ай бұрын
I couldn’t imagine sitting in the movie theater trying to understand once concept when they immediately moved on to the next sequence
@RashaadGenie
@RashaadGenie 8 ай бұрын
Imagine getting up to pee once or twice too.
@theonlybigmorg
@theonlybigmorg 2 жыл бұрын
Inception: time is slow now Interstellar: time is fast now Tenet: time just says f*ck it
@TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss
@TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss 3 жыл бұрын
This is so accurate, who TF were they fighting against at the end? Who were they running from and shooting at???
@ileutur6863
@ileutur6863 3 жыл бұрын
It explained quickly in the briefing, but most people missed it. The russians have a turnstile there too
@tonycarpaccio9550
@tonycarpaccio9550 3 жыл бұрын
It felt like watching a paintball fight
@rmrfboy
@rmrfboy 3 жыл бұрын
lol. around that time in the movie, i lost interest altogether. didn't understand it one bit and the main protagonist acts like a fish
@thebrosandgirls1949
@thebrosandgirls1949 3 жыл бұрын
I was so confused while watching it in theather. Even audience have no idea what's going on
@therealmaskriz5716
@therealmaskriz5716 3 жыл бұрын
@@rmrfboy pech gehabt
@jaacelsarge
@jaacelsarge 3 жыл бұрын
its like the army deplyment missions, NO emotion, info being thrown at you when you need it before the "mission" and running, covering and firing back if you get contacted...
@pn8937
@pn8937 3 жыл бұрын
What is even more jarring is the fact that this army-on-a-mission we have as good guys instead of acting professionally look obsessed with Kat's well being.How come an agent takes a detour in the past just to save a single person from a shot when he is on an active opperation to save the world and he has NO emotions at all about her...I was waiting for the forced romance between the Protagonist and Kat even at the end but nope...Nothing is steadily enstablished at this front so the whole second act seems irrational...She is just a pawn and he should let her pass away.
@freddyfranchise
@freddyfranchise 3 жыл бұрын
i thought the same thing without even having seen the film. thanks for confirming. This looks like "Taken 6" to me
@killofilms4162
@killofilms4162 3 жыл бұрын
@@pn8937 they needed Kat in order to keep sator alive, buying some time to stop the bomb
@pn8937
@pn8937 3 жыл бұрын
@@killofilms4162 a fact that -forgive me if I am wrong- the protagonist didnt know when he did a detour in the past to save her,or even worse during the sequence he handed over the suitcase in order for Sator not kill her.
@killofilms4162
@killofilms4162 3 жыл бұрын
@@pn8937 1.he's the one who put her in danger with the whole painting thing. 2. He doesn't like innocent when people to die, you saw what he did in the opening scene with the bombs and he would rather die than give give up his team (the test that lead him to be recruited). 3. Kat was always his way of getting to Sator, so he knew that he needed her, also the suitcase was empty at that moment.
@Payajowy
@Payajowy 3 жыл бұрын
Dude that last sequence was gold! with the t1 sfx
@levitastic
@levitastic 3 жыл бұрын
I love how much of a gamer Filmento is and uses it in his videos hahah ;D
@Ed-zq1mo
@Ed-zq1mo 3 жыл бұрын
The protagonist didn’t go to the airport to find inverted bullets he went to get Sator’s wife’s painting, that was the leverage that Sator held over Kat.
@ayoubiew
@ayoubiew 3 жыл бұрын
I think he didn't understand the film, he mentioned that the protagonist motive is the inverted bullet that he almost been hit by it, and in the movie it was clear that his motive is to stop a cold war that put the existence into danger
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
@@ayoubiew the bottom line is that it's a spectacular film experience. They literally tell you you're supposed to "feel it". If that seems like a cop out to some people, all I can say is I'm sorry you couldn't enjoy it.
@cangaroojack
@cangaroojack 3 жыл бұрын
He went for 2 reasons, for the painting, and to find what Kat said is so valuable to sator in the Freeport, since sator doesn't care about art at all, but cares about inverted stuff, they go to find what's there (they even mention that the structure senter is devoid of art, but is too big to be empty)
@ayoubiew
@ayoubiew 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonymartensen3164 For me it's a masterpiece, and it's up there with the dark knight and inception, it's unfair to put tenet and inception and demanding a copy cat of what inception did, every movie is unique in its own way and tenet succeed at that, i don't want a dead wife or a dead brother as a motive for story, and i don't want a top tier CIA agent to cry or laugh or as filemento said: normal day guy" to react at things the same way normal people react, the concept is very hard to pull visually or maybe impossible especially without CGI and that appear like sun in the final battle, but when you demand everything to be perfect this movie can't do it
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
@@ayoubiew it's totally different and kind of on a different level than any other film he's made in my opinion. I guess it bothers me when other people don't see it that way 😆
@ShadicgunMan
@ShadicgunMan 3 жыл бұрын
Finding out about Neil's fate was enough emotion for the entire movie.
@curtisjackson5793
@curtisjackson5793 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I got it, he is the one that takes a bullet to the head and is lying on the floor at the end of the tunnel that the protagonist and the other military guy entry?
@yashcherkaa
@yashcherkaa 3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjackson5793 yes.
@Riprie
@Riprie 3 жыл бұрын
He was also the guy who shot the inverted bullet and saved The Protagonist at the opera.
@anthonymartensen3164
@anthonymartensen3164 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. "Years ago for me. Years from now for you." If after paying attention to the whole movie, that doesn't rip your heart out, seeing that Neil has to say goodbye and sacrifice himself, I feel like you need to give the movie another chance.
@abhishekrao1710
@abhishekrao1710 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonymartensen3164 I teared up at that moment. :'(
@mazinmansoormohammad2006
@mazinmansoormohammad2006 3 жыл бұрын
Filmento:I loved it Also filmento:ANATOMY OF A FAILURE
@channeljohnnyYT
@channeljohnnyYT 3 жыл бұрын
this entire movie is: -two characters walking and talking -two characters talking at a table -two characters standing and talking -shootout/action sequence -two characters walking and talking -something in reverse -two characters standing and talking
@achromat666
@achromat666 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched Tenet. This perfectly describes what I thought was missing. I'm baffled that the writer director known for giving heart to his high concept films couldn't be bothered to give his main character (who he doesn't even bother to name, he calls himself the protagonist for some bizarre reason) an actual name background or overall motivation beyond what happens in the film. It's a high concept series of set pieces that can't tell a good character story, because you barely have a character.
@runninginsept
@runninginsept 3 жыл бұрын
I used to think he did solid character work too, until I read that it was his leading men and his other writers who championed for the characters (not him). I was disappointed, but at least it allowed me to realise his flaws and temper my expectations moving forward. I will tune into Nolan one final time on his next movie, and if his character work is bonkers again, I'm unsubscribing from him lol
@paradise_valley
@paradise_valley 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Nolan defends his creative choices all the time, but he was for a “Le Samouraï” type of character for the protagonist as seen by the little emotion he shows at the end as Neil leaves to die by finishing the temporal pincer move. It doesn’t work as well though.
@mrsn3sbit888
@mrsn3sbit888 2 жыл бұрын
Its the twilight world though, it's supposed to be the middle of a story
@achromat666
@achromat666 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrsn3sbit888 How is that an excuse for not developing characters and choosing to focus more on concepts than bothering to name the protagonist? Tarantino starts his stories in the middle all the time but makes you care about the people while wowing you with his ideas.
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 2 жыл бұрын
Tenet wasn't a character driven story. It was more about the concept and what was happening. Not the characters really.
@TheFikri136
@TheFikri136 3 жыл бұрын
Man, everytime I watch Filmento, I'm just like "No no. He's got a point."
@indian_coaster_enthusiast
@indian_coaster_enthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the situation made me care about TP enough to have an emotional connection
@herik82
@herik82 2 жыл бұрын
You dont always act because youre directly involved. You know, some people doesnt like bad things and take actions. And I can relate to them
@JuanGarnicaVera
@JuanGarnicaVera 3 жыл бұрын
I really hated when the main character and his friend are talking about weapons an how to take an airport while they are inside a bus full of people. That happened like three times.
@markshiman5690
@markshiman5690 3 жыл бұрын
"Even tho I could have explained this all 20 minutes ago, now that we are on a leasurely bus ride, I am now going to explain the secrets of the operation in full ear shot of everyone"
@Kurosaka
@Kurosaka 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that pissed me off
@CouchCit
@CouchCit 3 жыл бұрын
Christ on a stick, THAAAANK YOOOUU!! I thought I was the only one that noticed it.
@davidlean1060
@davidlean1060 3 жыл бұрын
In Inception, Nolan was able to get away with stuff like that because the premise was 'anything can happen in a dream'. That film actually celebrated how illogical films can be, but Tenet doesn't have that get out of jail free card, if you follow me. It's rather silly at times. Having said that, the film knows what it is. More and more, Nolan is becoming a thinking man's Michael Bay. I mean that as a compliment too. Tenet is nonsense, but spectacular, cinematic nonsense.
@turtlenerdtatum9502
@turtlenerdtatum9502 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that, I was kinda mad
@dafootball448
@dafootball448 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed with the video. I love The Prestige, Inception and Interstellar, yet this one frustrated me. Kinda understand the complicated time-inversion concept by the end of first watch, so that's not why. Then I realized I just don't care for the hero's journey. In Inception, Cobb tasked to prevent a global company from total monopoly, but he personally just wanted to meet his long-separated children. In Interstellar, Cooper tasked to find another planet and save humanity from extinction, but personally he just wanted to protect his children (and later to meet his daughter again). In Tenet, the Protagonist motivation is just "saving the world", but that's so cliche as in every other action movie. It's still brilliantly filmed. Just coulda been written better, felt like a waste of such an interesting high-concept.
@alkkapbhanu6918
@alkkapbhanu6918 3 жыл бұрын
Well said, dude. I still see comments here justifying that why the tenet "shouldn't" have an emotional aspect to it. Smh
@alkkapbhanu6918
@alkkapbhanu6918 3 жыл бұрын
@Shimaz Munshi this is a franchise?!
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 3 жыл бұрын
and why exactly did you even care about the people in other films? for the sole reason that they had a personal goal?
@playapapapa23
@playapapapa23 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s because the mechanics of the concept was the purpose. The story is in service to the concept, not the other way around, and that’s why I think the movie is a failure. It was really boring.
@honeybhingful
@honeybhingful 3 жыл бұрын
To add to this, The Prestige is my favorite Nolan film because the motivations are so petty. That's humanity! Here in Tenet, you nailed it: no one cares for the hero's journey. The protagonist was being introduced (at the same time as us, no less) to a world inhabited by people who are already dealing with inversion as "just another day's work"
@ricardokowalski1579
@ricardokowalski1579 8 ай бұрын
I consider TENET a workshop in film making, direction and photography. It is NOT as a product made for entertainment. It's a textbook.
@josiahfugal5407
@josiahfugal5407 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine my shock when the emotional motivation showed up at the end of the movie, almost as if the plot is happening in reverse...
@adrienperie6119
@adrienperie6119 Жыл бұрын
Glad somebody got it. The emotional payoff is only accessible after you play around with the intellectual concept enough to get who Neil really is.
@elvibora6218
@elvibora6218 3 жыл бұрын
i did more research on this movie than on my thesis
@foglias
@foglias 3 жыл бұрын
Such a good time to be alived, isn't? :P
@RaulGarfias
@RaulGarfias 3 жыл бұрын
@@foglias I wouldn’t go that far 😆
@D-OveRMinD
@D-OveRMinD 3 жыл бұрын
It helps when your lead protagonist is not a plank of wood. Inception was emotionally held up by Leonardo DiCaprio.
@elijahbryce9526
@elijahbryce9526 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno, seems like Leo had a lot more to work with.
@lonelystranger7114
@lonelystranger7114 3 жыл бұрын
Read the interviews. Leo basically forced Nolan to keep the emotional context relevant throughout the runtime. It seems like Nolan also wanted to focus on the concept only for Inception.
@aredblip1315
@aredblip1315 3 жыл бұрын
The protagonist got angry when he suspected Neil of snitching and he was holding back tears at the end when he realized Neil was about to go to his death bed. He sacrificed himself in the prologue scene for his team, he showed empathy toward Kat and saved her life (along with the WORLD!) at the end. Don't know why some people say he's emotionless. He's just a bit more stoic than your average person because he's a hardened CIA spy. He's seen some shit, killed many people, trained to be tough.
@lonestarr1490
@lonestarr1490 3 жыл бұрын
@@aredblip1315 He's basically Bond, because that's what Nolan was up to: making a Bond movie of his own. The issue of course persists that he could have made _more_ than just that out of this concept.
@matthiasrosenzweig5755
@matthiasrosenzweig5755 3 жыл бұрын
@@lonestarr1490 Thanks. While watching the movie I was thinking to myself : "why doesnt he just direct a Bond movie if he so badly wants to do one?!" He would just have to ask and they would just say yes instantly
@johnkarakash
@johnkarakash 2 жыл бұрын
The "show don't tell" message reminds me of the original Terminator movies. Even though in Terminator the "show" was mostly done through Sarah Connor's dreams, it was an utterly realistic depiction of the future for HER and thereby works.
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