The Old Guard - How to Succeed at Concept | Film Perfection
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Netflix's new movie The Old Guard starring Charlize Theron quickly rose up to be their most watched movie, and understandably so as it has quite a few strengths that make it an entertaining watch, especially now since there are no new film releases coming out. But perhaps the biggest strength of The Old Guard altogether is something that ties it to another recent wannabe-blockbuster that didn't do so well, Gemini Man starring Will Smith. That strength being the use of an original concept. Like I mentioned in my video "Gemini Man -- How to Fail at Concept", Gemini Man made a few mistakes relating to its concept that made the whole thing fall apart. And now The Old Guard comes along and aces those mistakes to great success. And in today's Film Perfection, let's see what are the differences in how these two films utilize their concept to know what to keep in mind in order to succeed at it.
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The Old Guard (2020)
Forever is harder than it looks. Led by a warrior named Andy (Charlize Theron), a covert group of tight-knit mercenaries with a mysterious inability to die have fought to protect the mortal world for centuries. But when the team is recruited to take on an emergency mission and their extraordinary abilities are suddenly exposed, it’s up to Everything wrong with the old guard honest trailer cinemasins the old guard the old guard full movie online free 4k clip hd gemini man how to fail at concept anatomy of a failure the old guard ending explained the old guard 2 sequel old guard review reaction mistakes Andy and Nile (Kiki Layne), the newest soldier to join their ranks, to help the group eliminate the threat of those who seek to replicate and monetize their power by any means necessary. Based on the acclaimed graphic novel by Greg Rucka and directed by Gina Prince-Bythewood (LOVE & BASKETBALL, BEYOND THE LIGHTS), THE OLD GUARD is a gritty, grounded, action-packed story that shows living forever is harder than it looks. Coming to Netflix on July 10.
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Gemini Man (2019)
Director Ang Lee’s American science fiction thriller features Will Smith, Clive Owen, Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Benedict Wong. Smith plays a middle-aged assassin who is considering a career change when he is unexpectedly confronted with a younger clone of himself. The latter has a preternatural and potentially deadly ability to anticipate his thoughts and actions.
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Inception (2010)
Visionary filmmaker Christopher Nolan (Memento, The Dark Knight) writes and directs this psychological sci-fi action film about a thief who possesses the power to enter into the dreams of others. Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) doesn't steal things, he steals ideas. By projecting himself deep into the subconscious of his targets, he can glean information that even the best computer hackers can't get to. In the world of corporate espionage, Cobb is the ultimate weapon. But even weapons have their weakness, and when Cobb loses everything, he's forced to embark on one final mission in a desperate quest for redemption. This time, Cobb won't be harvesting an idea, but sowing one. Should he and his team of specialists succeed, they will have discovered a new frontier in the art of psychic espionage. They've planned everything to perfection, and they have all the tools to get the job done. Their mission is complicated, however, by the sudden appearance of a malevolent foe that seems to know exactly what they're up to, and precisely how to stop them.
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Live Die Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow (2014)
Oscar® nominee Tom Cruise (the "Mission: Impossible" films, "Collateral," "Jerry Maguire") and Emily Blunt ("The Devil Wears Prada," "The Adjustment Bureau") star in Warner Bros. Pictures' and Village Roadshow Pictures' sci-fi thriller "Edge of Tomorrow," under the direction of Doug Liman ("The Bourne Identity," "Mr. & Mrs. Smith"). The epic action of "Edge of Tomorrow" unfolds in a near future in which an alien race has hit the Earth in an unrelenting assault, unbeatable by any military unit in the world. Major William Cage (Cruise) is an officer who has never seen a day of combat when he is unceremoniously dropped into what amounts to a suicide mission.
@requiem-girl 3 жыл бұрын
Also, the movie has very interesting characters that show different aspects of the concept. Take Nicky and Joe - they aren't alone in their immortality, which would alleviate the "being immortal sucks because they can't live a life/have loved ones" problem. But then they have to constantly worry about their immortality stopping and one of them leaving the other behind. Showing this angle too really gives so much depth to the movie. And they're just damn awesome characters and have an awesome romantic story.
@nivrrtakr2891 3 жыл бұрын
they're so inlove djscbaEwhkcfbhkbdakbjdbjga
@raikenleo1902 3 жыл бұрын
dude when the guy told the guard that "he isn't my boyfriend", that dialogue gave me feels
@harlequin5664 3 жыл бұрын
@@raikenleo1902 I was sobbing
@jhonathantejada3345 3 жыл бұрын
@Rob Max same, it felt i don't know natural, they weren't over exposed as a couple yet every time they spoke about each other you believe them, i can say they are one of the most genuine couples i have seen
@wietzie9935 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that they were gay.. without the stereotype gay voice and flamboyant behavior and yelling "look at me im the token gay characters"
@Gersheyz 3 жыл бұрын
The original creator of the comics was on set and in the writer's room throughout. There was a lot of passion from the producers to keep the integrity of the original story while adapting it to screen. I'm really glad for the process and the result.
@Ramsey276one 3 жыл бұрын
So that's what it takes? THE AUTHOR IN THE CORNER WITH A PAPER FAN OF DOOM WITH "ZERO BULLSHIT" IN BLAZING LETTERS ON IT? We need more of that!
@onkelpappkov2666 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ramsey276one I know what we can do to market the movie to a younger audience. The group of immortals has a cute robot that's also immortal, because it's a robot, so they go on adventures and the robot always says: "I don't know what it's like to be human" and they say: "Neither do I" and that's fun and cute and... what are you all looking at? Oh, right. Sorry, sir. Yes, I will whip myself, sir. Yes, naughty boy, sir, yes sir. Me, sir, I was a bad boy, sir. Yes, sir. Of course, sir.
@joyc.e.7511 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ramsey276one We really do though
@voydnaught1397 3 жыл бұрын
The comic must be shit as well then, because it was one the biggest piles of shite I've laid eyes on in ages. Crap dialogue, scripting, bad acting and all slathered in contrived, incongruous woke nonsense. Fucking awful!
@miboogaroo 3 жыл бұрын
@@onkelpappkov2666 🤔😒dont need to know ur fetishes boy.
@dannybenhur6123 3 жыл бұрын
I think "Edge of Tomorrow" is a high concept implemented perfectly...
@joyc.e.7511 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It actually adapts the idea from a manga very well and keeps it impactful throughout.
@KnowThatIDontKnowYou 3 жыл бұрын
The concept of All You Need is Kill is actually quite sadder compared to Edge of Tomorrow though, I'd say edge is more of inspired by all you need is kill.
@ghostshadow9899 3 жыл бұрын
Tom curse is nice but would be better if it was a young guy like in the mangas
@mityakiselev 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghostshadow9899 monkaW c-curse?..
@normalgirls1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghostshadow9899 Whats wrong with Tom Cruise-Curse though. It also makes sense to have an older guy in the military rather than a younger guy.
@Eryhnar 3 жыл бұрын
You didnt touch at all the fact that one of them actually died and they tell you that BEFORE they tell you that the other one got locked up. They explain that for some reason one day you just become mortal again so the stakes are there all along. In fact you can see that they worry when one of them dies because they dont know if its permanent. I think that that concept alone makes it more interesting than most movies. However watching the whole thing and the result of those stakes...The second movie has to raise the stakes by a ton, or actually deliver for once.
@tyruspotts7040 3 жыл бұрын
Well so far we might get immortals vs immortals, but thats been done with movies that have gods vs titans, so i wonder how they will go about it in the sequel too.
@android19willpwn 3 жыл бұрын
Having both potential bad outcomes is extremely useful, honestly. The fact that at some point you stop coming back adds a little bit of tension to every death and allows Charlise's character to have life-or-death stakes in the second half, but at least on a subconscious level every viewer will know that it's an arbitrary consequence. It will come into play if and when the writers decide to press the button, and not as a result of anything any of the characters do. The only thing they could do is avoid death as much as possible, which you can't have them do too successfully because otherwise you're not doing anything with your movie's core interesting premise. Thus, the possibility of eternal capture. It doesn't present much immediate tension in a fight scene, but it allows for mounting consequences and negative outcomes as a result of things that happen in-world.
@raffy234 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, you're having a really good point. The actors did a great job, too, in making their worry and fear come across realistically. I started worrying that any of the others might start dying because Andy lost it, Booker healed much much slower... who wouldn't think there's a good chance the others might stop. I loved how Nicky's healing was super fucking fast.
@salenebrom6476 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly just wanna see a day in the life of Or qunyh came back to save them all from something or someone else instead of being there for revenge
@dulio12385 3 жыл бұрын
Charlize Theron and Keanu Reeves actually trained together for John Wick and Atomic Blonde under the stunt/fight team hence why they move almost exactly the same way.
@DeadpoolAli 3 жыл бұрын
And I love it.
@Melina-fi3sc 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@African_Rose 3 жыл бұрын
like spergs...
@charisma-hornum-fries 3 жыл бұрын
Not only training but Wick was directed and produced by the same team as the stunt crew on The Matrix 1-4. Hence the way humans fights the machines within the movie is carries on to their following projects.
@dr.heinzdoofenshmirtz4463 3 жыл бұрын
@@charisma-hornum-fries never watched the matrix 4
@Sm00k 3 жыл бұрын
Part of the concept was how well fighting scenes are. Especially, just how smooth coordination between all members of the Guard is. Combat feels like, well, combat and more like a well practiced dance. Which, for immortal warriors, after hundreds of years, pretty much is. This is how you show without telling.
@NightmareCourtPictures 2 жыл бұрын
Ya the fight choreography was really good...it's not surprising when you find out the fight Choreo was done by the same guy who did John Wick and Birds of Prey. Also, for people who say the action scenes in birds of Prey was bad, that's how you tell they are mindless sheep that don't know what they are talking about.
@djdark1 3 жыл бұрын
Old Guard opened with Andy's voice over her "dead" body. They teased the concept in the first minute.
@MelchVagquest 3 жыл бұрын
There are movies that start with the final scene or the death of the main character and then say "Blank Days Earlier." I thought of that, first, not immortality.
@kjj26k Жыл бұрын
@@MelchVagquest Still a good hook right? How did it come to this? What did they achieve on the way to this ending?
@MelchVagquest Жыл бұрын
@@kjj26k I liked the hook, myself. There were so many military/mercenary movies coming out at the time, this choice helped to make this movie stand out.
@user-jy3px8to9z 3 жыл бұрын
When I watched the movie, what kept my interest, before the immortality reveal, was that they were all carrying medieval weapons. I kept thinking, why would elite mercenaries, obviously skilled in modern weaponry carry these things on a mission. It almost subconsciously says to the viewer "there is more to these characters, keep watching to find out what". Something small, that I think really helped the opening act.
@Zanderreid571 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I never read the plot or anything of the book, just saw the recommendation on Netflix and watched it, at that point, I thought they were some trained ninjas or shit going against the Taliban, it blew my mind when they rose up, such a badass moment
@jhonathantejada3345 3 жыл бұрын
same here, when they started using them i thought, those are odds weapons for stealth killing, although they don't run out of ammo, for a second i label them all 4 of them as weebs xD
@pinkseonghwa 3 жыл бұрын
If one has a keen eye they could notice that when the camera pans over Nicky in the helicopter, it almost looks like he’s praying, and that, the sword coupled with the hood.. pretty strong crusader vibes. I don’t have a keep eye lol but it’s always a delight to see the imagery hints whenever I watch the movie
@raffy234 3 жыл бұрын
Now that you mention it... true!
@MrHantz101 3 жыл бұрын
It could be due to their respective ages. They were all probably raised on medieval weapons, with firearms being a relatively new thing for them. Thus, they've stuck to their original gear, which they've mastered after centuries, and which also never jams or runs out of ammo. Yeah, guns are necessary in a firefight, but Andy's crew can simply soak up enemy bullets, then get up and start swinging.
@TheKillzone32 3 жыл бұрын
"I fear no man, but that thing" *pointing to the iron maiden* "it scares me"
@TheKillzone32 3 жыл бұрын
@@saber_1113 nice
@fettycheese2498 3 жыл бұрын
I get that it’s a joke but that line genuinely works
@SirThinks2Much 3 жыл бұрын
The movie teases the “humans are still bastards vs. humanity can be good” concept earlier when Andy gets patched up by the lady at the drugstore. She’s like the antithesis of the pharmaceutical man
@Gadget-Walkmen 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that was her daughter for second there.
@israelribeiro3373 3 жыл бұрын
I went into this movie completely blind. Never read anything on anywhere about the plot. Just saw Charlize on the cover and went for it. The ambush scene was a complete mindfuck and the movie was a complete ride. Loved it.
@kronosunleashed3845 3 жыл бұрын
My sister actually was a stunt double in this movie, so I feel a bit more of a connection to it than I normally would otherwise. It’s really cool to see a movie that I’m so connected to emotionally turn out to be a huge success
@PaulSeoulOLD 3 жыл бұрын
Watched Old Guard last night with the wife, we thoroughly enjoyed it. It kept reminding me of what Filmento says: - Characters have their personality and skills SHOWN to us, not told - Action scenes are used for character development - Characters have different personalities and constantly have to CHOOSE what they will do - Surprisingly, no superman syndrome (you'll see why!) - Lead being female has no connotations: Charlize could of been a guy Looks like Filmento is both entertaining and educational!
@cristela4034 3 жыл бұрын
- Lead being female has no connotations: Charlize could of been a guy That's something I liked about this movie. They have representation and diversity without it feeling forced and without feeling the need to preach the audience about it. They are good characters with developed personalities that have a point to the story, and not just quotas.
@cat9448 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, checked all my boxes too
@houndofculann1793 3 жыл бұрын
Charlize could have* been a guy. There is no "could of"
@seren3650 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, @@houndofculann1793. You did it! Thank you. I'm proud of you. Keep fighting the good fight, old friend.
@Grimtheorist 3 жыл бұрын
- Lead being female has no connotations: Charlize could of been a guy I dunno, I felt the feminist messaging during the entire run of the film, even if it wasn't blatantly overt. I think the whole point of the "Old Guard" in the movie is that it is led by a woman; typically, that's a phrase used to refer to men in some kind of leadership position. Here, it's a woman who is the oldest, first, and best. And then she finds a new girl, who is now gonna be the best. This movie is attempting a "changing of the guard", so to speak, and it doesn't feel like a coincidence. All the good, main, useful characters are women, and all the bad guys are men. Men burn witches and throw them into oceans, men try to profit from this immortality serum, men are all the villains. The only men that aren't villains are the gay immortal guys, and they are talked down to by other men, "what is he, your *boyfriend*?", because men are so homophobic and bad. Charlize could never have been a guy, because then the movie's central theme (feminism, not immortality) wouldn't make any sense.
@zukohere6383 3 жыл бұрын
His editing skills are off the charts again
@keepmoving1185 3 жыл бұрын
Fact
@excelsiorcameo5295 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s like the video to tell him to keep it up!
@marsmars2027 3 жыл бұрын
That’s ruff buddy
@aimilios439 3 жыл бұрын
Best on KZfaq. Change my mind.
@GnosticOrthodoxChurch 3 жыл бұрын
Skillshare moment
@examfight2492 3 жыл бұрын
"I will keep slicing you for decades till I get what I want" - this line really shook me while watching the movie. The way they play with death in this movie, was honestly refreshing to watch.
@MinscS2 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this movie, and I enjoyed that it managed to make all 5 of the "heroes" unique with memorable quirks and personalities. In most movies with a "team" (established superhero-movies not included), usually only the protagonist and possibly deuteragonist is remembered after the credits start rolling, but in The Old Guard, not only was Andy and Nile well established characters, but Booker, Joe and Nicky got plenty of screen time to do impressions on the viewer as well. With that said, the movie wasn't perfect (which movie is?), but especially the soundtrack-department could've done much better. I'll give it a solid 7/10, and I'll watch the sequel.
@ryanbrown9165 3 жыл бұрын
Geras: “Drowning cannot kill me, Raiden.” Raiden: “That is unfortunate for you. The Sea of Blood is bottomless; you will fall forever.”
@Phantom-qr1ug 3 жыл бұрын
We've managed to avoid drowning.
@sparklyjuicejuice 3 жыл бұрын
@@Phantom-qr1ug underrated comment wait its only 1 hour old
@JohnSmith-tm5xx 3 жыл бұрын
"There are fates worse than death" -also Raiden
@damdaley8092 3 жыл бұрын
exactly what i thought of too
@ChimeraMK 3 жыл бұрын
_Eventually, Geras stopped thinking._
@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 3 жыл бұрын
"attention spans are getting shorter by the minute and getting shorter THAN a minute" I feel attacked, but cant argue with that
@32fps 3 жыл бұрын
You can, actually, argue with that, seeing as it's not true.
@overthier 3 жыл бұрын
@@32fps A bold statement backed by a riveting explanation i see. Obviously meant to sway the masses to your amazing ability to explain in detail your thoughts.
@32fps 3 жыл бұрын
@@overthier *BY English isn't that hard
@overthier 3 жыл бұрын
@@32fps lmao... ahh the attack on a spelling or grammar mistake rather than trying to actually defend your statement. I was actually hoping for a whitty response, what I got inturn was enough to make me not even want to return to this argument. Its not worth my time if you are not engaging enough. Have a great rest of your day.
@slyseal2091 3 жыл бұрын
@@overthier Explanatory burden is on the one making the first unpostulated statement. Like for example, "it's not the internet achieving marketing singularity because of the instant feedback making it possible to adjust every fucking door mat ad to be just as riveting as a movie trailer, people are just getting dumber".
@AtomicF0x 3 жыл бұрын
My answer to getting out of drowning forever: Wait for the metal coffin to rust enough and keep kicking it between deaths over the years. Eventually it will break open. Yes, it is literally one of the absolute worst ways to spend a few decades. But remember, you have eternity. The metal coffin does not.
@AndrewEck 3 жыл бұрын
i suggest you watch the movie ;)
@regnbuetorsk 3 жыл бұрын
the titanic is falling apart, corroded by water and literally consumed by iron-eating bacteria (Halomonas titanicae)
@RemRewRoe 3 жыл бұрын
Oh she probably did get out this way. She was kicking and punching and pushing at the coffin for five hundred years, right up at least until the middle of the film. By the end, she appeared on land.
@80krauser 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I called it as soon as I saw it was made of iron. Now if it was bronze then she'd have been hosed
@third-ratedude4234 3 жыл бұрын
Or just wait a hundred years until some people opens your coffin because they think its a treasure chest, get out, go to Egypt and acquire a punching ghost that can stop time
@ryankennedy3498 3 жыл бұрын
I am amazed that he went through this whole video without saying "Highlander" once.
@ardocument4384 3 жыл бұрын
FINALY someone saying it! : )
@khornetto 3 жыл бұрын
We are getting old it seems xD
@apmcd47 3 жыл бұрын
Netflix are missing a trick by not getting hold of the Highlander movies and TV series. Not that I've seen any of that franchise.
@Stillcantthinkofaname 3 жыл бұрын
Is highlander a comic?
@jongbong1912 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stillcantthinkofaname it won the Oscar for greatest movie of all time! Seriously though, watch the first highlander movie, its crazy and very 80s but it's great
@randomericthings7506 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s a gift, and a curse” - Adrian Monk
@yipflaptheexecutioner6519 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, a fellow man of culture.
@ThrottleKitty 3 жыл бұрын
"a gift......... and a curse"
@barbiquearea 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't be afraid of death Winnie, be afraid of the unlived life." - Tuck Everlasting
@Danny15877 3 жыл бұрын
IT'S A JUNGLE OUT THERE
@jairusthevirus1481 3 жыл бұрын
I would give you a handshake...but GERMS
@ripghotihook 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to disagree with you on the," just show them the concept, just give it to them," part. The problem isn't that things are delayed, it's that they are delayed in an uninteresting/predictable/dull way. It's just, well, poor writing.
@hanniffydinn6019 3 жыл бұрын
It follows the comic pretty accurately dumbass! 🖕
@darthlynx5792 3 жыл бұрын
But, that part is still gonna be like a segment from a mediocre action film
@kumaravelr4129 3 жыл бұрын
I watched lot of movies like this...but I feel different like filmento...good concept..but also boring I accept..yeah predictable...but I enjoyed this movie.. because some case is different from others..
@andrasbiro3007 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good on paper, but there are three big problems with that. 1. It's next to impossible to keep secrets these days, especially when your marketing team desperately want to tell them to everyone. 2. If your intro is too long, the audience will think that' your movie, and won't like the twist. Or more precisely some will like your original promise and get disappointed by the change and others will like the actual movie and would want more of that, at the expense of a long intro. And it's even worse if your marketing is all about something that's not your actual movie. 3. Movies are short, the long intro won't leave you enough time to explore your cool concept. Unless you make a 3+ hour movie. You can, just make sure it's worth my time. You can pull it off, but it's hard. 1. You have to build up credit with your audience. Do several movies with similar twists, first show it early, then slowly build up to longer intros. Your audience will know that they will get a treat, and the longer anticipation will make them enjoy it more. This also solves the marketing issue, people will know what to expect without knowing the actual twist. 2. Your intro has to be cool on it's own. Otherwise your audience will feel like you are forcing them to eat their spinach before giving them their favorite dessert. 3. You still can't have two different movies. You have to tie the two haves together seamlessly. 4. The longer you build up the anticipation, the cooler the twist must be. If you oversell it, the audience will be disappointed. 5. Another trick to avoid the two different movies problem is foreshadowing. You have to keep hinting at the twist, without telling it. The key phrase is "surprising, yet inevitable". And yes, I was thinking about this for a while. I have a few cool ideas where the whole point is to completely shock the audience with the twist. The long buildup is absolutely necessary, because the audience has to think they fully understand the world, before I pull the rug from under them. Something like that was done masterfully in one of the episodes of Castle. It's a cop show, so the rules of the world are pretty much the same as the real world's. But in one episode, several dozen episodes in, they find zombies. The trick the writers used is that they showed a zombie early, but only on a few frames of a video, so it was easy to dismiss. Then slowly they gave you more and more evidence, reinforcing that it's a real zombie, but all still can be explained away. Then at the climax the heroes are surrounded by a horde of zombies that are absolutely real. It's really cool how your mind can't process it. You know it can't be real, yet you know it is real. That's exactly the feeling I was looking for. The writers solved the problems I mentioned earlier with another twist. The zombies weren't real after all, just some living people taking role playing a bit too seriously.
@travissmith5994 3 жыл бұрын
You have to prevent your audience from feeling like they are waiting for what they know is coming. You can do that however you want, but I would argue it's good story telling to do it quickly. Think of it this way: if making the journey/delay interesting was all that mattered then no one would mind movie spoilers ever. As soon as you hear "Dumbledore dies" you're looking for him to die, and every scene before he dies doesn't matter as much to you because of it. If you want to keep audience attention with a delay, then you have to not only make it interesting but have nothing to do with what you're delaying (don't show Dumbledore) - which usually counteracts your reason for delaying (you want his death to be impactful).
@WolfsFleetOps 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue with Gemini Man was that they pent 35 minuted pretending that everyone in the audience hadn't already seen the concept in the trailer. It is even more boring when you know what the reveal is going to be.
@lacroix1976 3 жыл бұрын
that movie was an unexpected gem , i watched it just to watch something because i did not knew what to do at this moment ........did not regret it at all ^^
@Fractorification 3 жыл бұрын
John Truby in his book “Anatomy of Story” discussed a similar thing. He mentions something called “high concept ideas” which are basically stories that are based on unique or original concepts and the pitfalls Hollywood tends to fall into with these films. Basically, bad “high concept” stories tend to milk the idea in one or three scenes with the usual tropes. The book mentions the trope of “a man who pretends to be a woman” and the obligatory scenes of the man dressing up, getting hit on by other men, quirky misunderstandings, etc. The problem is that when those funny scenes are over, the rest of the movie is a bland mess because it has no theme or anything of value to say. For Gemini Man, it’s the same idea. There are scenes of the soldier confronting his young clone with impressive CG and decent fight scenes, but it never follows up on its theme or characters, making it a bland action movie. John explains that the best films take a high concept idea and develop a “designing principle” as he puts it. A theme line or idea that the film explores through it’s character web to ask moral questions that only this high concept can answer. In this case, it’s immortality, humanity, and the ramifications of society rejecting people for this gift with the toll that eternal suffering can have on the protagonists.
@CitizenKen1 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly right but I think the opposite problem can be true. Where the writer has a big idea (or ideas) they desperately want to express but they struggle to find a concept to ground their idea. They have the general act structure in mind and maybe they have the characters (or even a bigger name actor in that starting role), but nothing that happens necessary follows though on that idea. As a result the movie can just come off as very pretentious with no real scenes that visual express the ideas coherently outside of a character out right stating the ideas. A lot of movies that come out the independent film world can come off this way. Fresh out of film school students who learned everything about craft and structure but where too caught up in how their "not so original" profound thoughts to think they needed to rely on a high concept to ground their audience. Of course you could be very ambitious by failing at both concept and ideas. With that you'd be stuck with a movie like Southland Tales. Never go full Southland Tales as some have said. lol
@LosRockson 3 жыл бұрын
A must read.
@chasx7062 3 жыл бұрын
The Watchowski Siblings are prime examples trying out High Concepts...the Matrix was great but not so Jupiter Ascending or their other high art piece
@storyseek1985 3 жыл бұрын
The suggestion I've heard presented with 'high concept' is to ask the initial question of "What if..." - BUUUT you must must must follow up with "How then..." in growing thematic relevance to both explore the original question and mine the ultimate truths offered by the premise. "What if [specific soldiers and fighters could live forever]?" "How then [would they settle arguements], [find purpose in life], [be dealt with by mortals], [keep from going insane], etc..." I think that's the major fail of most 'what if' concepts. They don't really adequately explore the 'how then's' and it becomes more of just a quirky set piece. Or worse, there are glaring holes in the 'what if' question and the audience is left with an extremely open-ended unfulfilled effect. While I loved the movie Mortal Engines for its fun and games, it's really a dissatisfying 'high concept' in my opinion; Artemis Foul as well - just events and things taking place with no real deeper exploration of the unique truths exposed by the reassembly of reality they present. Without spoilers, there's a MASSIVE 'how then' that the writers teased in the final shot, one that - in my opinion - is very much worthy of a sequel.
@storyseek1985 3 жыл бұрын
@@CitizenKen1 I haven't seen Southland Tales, but if I understand correctly, I agree with you. A would present the movie Looper as an example. Solid 'high concept', very interesting exploration, but no grounding in 'character' that really had me care. Sure, you don't want to see kids killed, and Emily Blunt is relatable as a single mom to a rather generic extent. But the arc for the main character feels a bit 'wedged in' amongst the high concept elements. So the audience doesn't have a grounding of any kind (or not a very good one - though others may argue with me) I think a movie like Predestination (by comparison) is potentially a bit better in terms of high concept (there's an understatement) but everything bends back to connect with a character we are exploring and in some way empathising with. So high concept must always have its relevance and meaningfulness exposed by a relatable 'human' experience (even if the character isn't human, exactly).
@makatron 3 жыл бұрын
I liked that they treated the immortality in a way that didn't make them invincible, showing that the strength lies within the group itself. Imagine an immortal with Luke Cage powers.
@nomisunrider6472 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who understands that "stakes" and "death" aren't synonymous. Seriously you have kid's shows where no one can die that still have decent stakes and adult shows (cough Game of Thrones cough regenerating army cough) with no stakes because one has lasting consequences for mistakes and wrong turns and the other doesn't. Death is the ultimate consequence, but not the only one, and if you make death superfluous you don't even have that anymore.
@peyton7293 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I loved this movie. But I really loved how they handled Andy's character. I thought it was great how they showed her at the beginning hating humanity and feeling like it wasn't worth saving because nothing she did make a difference and how towards the end they showed her falling in love with humanity again and finding a reason to want to save them. My favorite scene was the one with the convenience store clerk when she realizes that maybe humanity isn't bad after all and that it's worth saving. Its a little scene but its definitely one of my favorites.
@d.b.9895 3 жыл бұрын
I think Book's motivation was to give others a cure from suffering (which he couldn't give his son). He rationalized his betrayal as being an end to immortality.
@AndrewEck 3 жыл бұрын
but why would it be an end to immortality? it shows that they're spontaneously created, so who's to say that more won't be created once they're all dead?
@kjj26k Жыл бұрын
He straight up said to Andy that he was doing this to give her the gift of death. Edit: her (and probably himself) specifically.
@bismuth7398 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. It sounds like there are A LOT of movies these days that fail at the implementation of concept. Also, 4:02. That was hilarious.
@mandodelorian4668 3 жыл бұрын
welcome to the movie mill, crank 'em out as fast as can
@TheForbiddenOne55 3 жыл бұрын
this reminds me of Bloodshot in a sense. It was a great in premise but execution felt empty
@VictorB2012 3 жыл бұрын
Nolan: Hold my drink.
@stephonmanny7555 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Bright.
@ImperativeGames 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephonmanny7555Ah, Bright. The king of Failed Concepts Kingdom ^^
@7grims 3 жыл бұрын
The importance of capturing the audience at the beginning, reminds me of the matrix, the brilliant scene, were trinity run towards the phone both (to her death), instead of running away from the truck. The scene created such a mystery of "whats going on?", you just get hooked for the rest of the movie.
@ftKomA 3 жыл бұрын
This movie has super nice little details too. For example, that they still care about their origins, despite being alive such a long time. A great example for that is, when in the hideout right before they get attacked, Joe and Booker watch the football match of Turkey vs France. Joe (being ottoman) laughing at Booker (being French), because Turkey scores a goal. This was such a fine detail, I was genuinly impressed.
@canadian_bread310 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the only thing about this movie that I personally didn’t like was the soundtrack
@lanzer22 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god I'm getting PTSD from the music! The church scene was painful!
@kadijahamad9862 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I loved everything else
@8301TheJMan 3 жыл бұрын
@@lanzer22 Hahaha! OMG same, and the scene was so good, but it had that CW-esque young-adult style music playing, it's so bad. I did love the music in the first reincarnation scene when they rise up and take out the hit squad. The music for that scene was fuckin dope.
@joshtor29 3 жыл бұрын
the music made me want to puke
@stephaniehauenstein9123 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the music choice was odd to say the least
@chemicalman53 3 жыл бұрын
This movie checks off all the boxes for "original" movies I want: Have a new concept...hard but not enough Have a new concept AND RUN WITH IT. Mad Max Fury Road is a good example of this. Love or hate it the concept is ran with from start to finish. This movie has that and you explain it so wonderfully. But what closed it for me was the exploration of themes. Having that closing theme that has me nod my hand and think "Yeah, yeah, that provides thoughtful closer to this concept" now has this movie on my closing wish list. *Thank you* for your great content as always.
@NewbOoyNS 3 жыл бұрын
@ New concept in the current Hollywood climate. Highlander is like 40 years old.
@najrenchelf2751 3 жыл бұрын
You nod your hand? 🤔
@tiagodarkpeasant 3 жыл бұрын
@ but lets remember "there can only be one", this movie is a new concept, what if there was more than one?
@jesperburns 3 жыл бұрын
New concept. Mad Max Fury Road. Pick one.
@wampyrelli 3 жыл бұрын
@ Immortality + modern day = Highlander :D
@jacobjacksonxii5265 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you had mentioned the clever way they used the potential of losing immortality as a way to keep the audience both engaged and in edge, because without explaining it, there’s still that little fear they might not come back.
@OffbeatWorlds 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished watching the movie before I came here and watched your video and you really hit the nail on the head. To add to the rising stakes bit, there was also the twist that Andy was losing her immortality, so if she died during their escape, that was it for her. And I loved watching the other characters throw themselves in front of bullets for her to protect her. Such a good film.
@juanmartinhernandez2343 3 жыл бұрын
"Inmortality isn´t a curse, is a gift"... until you go hollow
@SilentHillOwn 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you gotta praise the sun harder. I SAID HARDER!!
@wackywhoo-hoopizzaman9948 3 жыл бұрын
“As long as you have a purpose youre fine” *looks at elden ring trailer with hope*
@grandlancer 3 жыл бұрын
@@SilentHillOwn \[T]/
@razerhead9489 3 жыл бұрын
@Ralph's Place Don't see it. A curse, I suppose yes, if you get stuck at thinking short term/humanlike but at one point you would just evolve. It's just like young people think differently from old people. With age and time, you change. I suppose you'd have an easier time adapting if you're an inquisitive person who wants to see and learn as much as possible but I'm pretty sure that being immortal is not as black and white as people believe it. Also, there are enough people who live on and become quite happy again after losing someone they love. The human mind is quite resilient.
@HeilRay 3 жыл бұрын
Immortality is a gift...until your enemies realize that capturing you into a endless loop of death like drowning or thrown in a volcano is the logical course of action for you.
@somedude2278 3 жыл бұрын
“I’d love to see Netflix survive” -Filmento
@contracide 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there.
@alexius997 3 жыл бұрын
leafy is here
@GabeIG 3 жыл бұрын
@@driftsolstice3685 Pepelaugh
@PhoenixO8 3 жыл бұрын
When you hear the pitch: Immortals shunned by humanity and death shenanigans ensue, this movie is EXACTLY what you imagine as the BEST possible version of that concept
@elisabethschmerzler963 3 жыл бұрын
Is.. is that a good thing?
@PhoenixO8 3 жыл бұрын
@@elisabethschmerzler963 ABSOLUTELY
@ourcollectivewisdom8769 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you even get the vampire thing from? They were “immortals” not vampires
@bassemb 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I didn't get that either. Why did he keep saying "sort of vampires"? Just cause they're immortal?
@vampire2318 3 жыл бұрын
Cuz we're cool
@Zanderreid571 3 жыл бұрын
If you've watched netflix 'originals' you would know those vampires live forever and maybe I reckon that is why he said it subconsciously
@eliellopez1224 3 жыл бұрын
@@bassemb Yeah, it was more of an analogy for you to understand what he was saying. It was, indeed, for the immortality thing
@priscilaassis5704 3 жыл бұрын
When I watched it with my boyfriend he said “ they’re wolverines!”
@hanniffydinn6019 3 жыл бұрын
The old guard, follows the comic pretty much and screenplay was written by the comic author! So one person sat down and really thought about it. Hence, for the budget it’s well done. The cuts were all down to the high budget scenes in the comic! 🐯🐯🐯🐯🐯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@CaptainJeoy 3 жыл бұрын
I swear, there is a lot of proof that Hollywood watches Filmento.
@theflashgordon193 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it's true. we will better movie in consequence
@VIARideas 3 жыл бұрын
If I owned a movie studio... I'd hire him as a consultant. The question is: Can Filmento work so precisely without being "post-mortem"? Or does he have to see the finished film to be able to point out the flaws? In that case he would spend a little more on rewriting and filming the scenes necessary to fit his criteria, I guess... But, if the film benefits: it will be worth it!
@Thirdbase9 3 жыл бұрын
@@VIARideas The question is can he do it beforehand.
@CaptainJeoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@VIARideas he is professionally a writer and there are a lot of movies already out there to strengthen one's intuition on what is considered as actually great. I believe his videos are not just for us to learn but also for him too.
@tiagodarkpeasant 3 жыл бұрын
@@VIARideas he usually focus on the writing and overall plot, so reviewing the script before shooting could be beneficial
@Beer_Dad1975 3 жыл бұрын
Started watching this on a whim earlier this week, not expecting much - was really pleasantly surprised - an action film that's not afraid of having multiple quiet character moments is really unusual these days. This is the best of Netflix's original action films by a long margin - at least the ones I've seen.
@najrenchelf2751 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Filmento is sincerely underrated! I love how, when there are concepts he thought were common knowledge and people don’t know what that is, he explains! When he has covered how something was done wrong, he tries to cover how to do it right and vice versa! He‘s great at creating a web of knowledge and connecting the dots - and as an aspiring film maker, I love that! 👏👏👏👏👏
@nickalvarez1829 3 жыл бұрын
All these netflix movies just seem like solid B movies with a big name attached. Im grateful for the original content, but they all seem to lack a proper story flow at the beginning.
@RealCoolGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I joined Netflix so that I could watch previously theatre-released films at home but after shifting through and finding hardly anything of interest I actually found that Netflix still delivers DVDs. Meaning that I can get virtually any "real" film mailed to the house by Netflix I just can't stream it immediately. I have absolutely no interest in their original content.
@michaelstrong5383 3 жыл бұрын
I'd argue MOST Netflix films are B-movies. For every Bright and Death Note, there's also a Roma and Marriage Story.
@somedude2278 3 жыл бұрын
RealCoolGuy they still deliver DVDs?
@no_mnom 3 жыл бұрын
@@RealCoolGuy wait they do? Do you need to pay extra? Mail them back?
@RealCoolGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@Some Dude @@no_mnom Yep. It's separate from the streaming service. If you go to the Netflix website on a browser (not the app) there is a button that says "DVD" in the top right corner (or, I think it's just dvd.netflix.com) and it's the old-school style mail em to you and mail them back service. You can add it to streaming or just cancel the streaming and just get the DVDs (that's what I do). It's $12/month for 2-at-a-time (and, I think $8 for 1-at-a-time) and you have access to basically every film ever released on DVD or Blu-Ray ..even those that you can't stream on any digital services and new releases.
@keepmoving1185 3 жыл бұрын
“The one” with Jet Li I think should have been covered. Great job!!!
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 жыл бұрын
Still remember the ending with ''evil'' Li fighting all those criminals in the prison reality= SOLID:P
@sabrevanson4412 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 "My name is Yu Law, I am nobodies bitch....You are Mine!" *insert awesome fight music and Jet Li kicking ass.* I fkn loved that movie so much
@amolmahabir1 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabrevanson4412 That fight music was Papa Roach's Last Resort. Truly a movie of the ages.
@guitarman0365 3 жыл бұрын
@@amolmahabir1 and the best use of disturbed down with the sickness for the execution room break out. Blowing up a mouse's testicles oooo wahh ah ah ah
@hardwickd 3 жыл бұрын
Filmento: "In how many movies can you see the hero die at the beginning, and then just walk it off?" Anime fans: You haven't seen much Anime have you. . . . . "Birdy the Mighty" "Excel Saga" "3x3 Eyes" "Ajin: Demi Human" "Yu Yu Hakusho" "Gantz" "High School DxD" Around half of all the isekai anime out there. The list goes on.
@dawnstorm1494 3 жыл бұрын
also kind of re:zero, although it doesn't "walk it off" imo
@regnbuetorsk 3 жыл бұрын
let's add "dead like me". not an anime, but the protagonists are dead
@Torvadam555 3 жыл бұрын
Damn man your English vocabulary is spectacular. Props to that my guy.
@dani.phantm 3 жыл бұрын
“Here’s a couple things to keep in mind” **Ad plays**
@OscarGonzoJim 3 жыл бұрын
really enjoyed this movie, way more than i was expecting
@jdonvance 3 жыл бұрын
6:40 THIS. THIS! THIS!!! Again and again, I see the potential of concepts (superheroes, magic-users, time travelers, whatever) utterly squandered. If your wizards can teleport themselves at a moment's notice, why should they stand their ground? If one of your characters is indestructible, why isn't she always in front of the others and totally unafraid of the mundane weapons the bad guys have? These are nonspecific examples, but you can apply these principles to whatever lackluster blockbuster you can think of. That's not to say filmmakers don't occasionally get it right: Spider-Man and Doc Ock can both cling to surfaces? Have them fight on the side of a moving train! You know what? That train has windows. Have one of them "fall" through one of them. Spider-Man ends up on a bridge and falls behind? Have him use his webs to slingshot himself back into the fray! THAT is how you take advantage of the abilities of your characters and/or the premise of the piece.
@cardescomedioses3674 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me to a bad anime with a super intresting question and premise, with shit execution, more frustrating than Gemini man,the name is big order, it was about wishes, what would happen if god granted you 1 wish? The protagonist wishes to be the ruler of earth, and he accidentally accomplishes the thanos snap and kills half of humanity, 10 years later a girl that wants to kill her that wished to be immortal so she could kill him, then he re activates the power and it’s revealed his “order” isn’t limited by laws of physics, can command laws that will be accomplished regardless of human will and he can litterally control humans will, he orders her to not be able to harm him or his sister ever!! After that, he only uses it in the first episode and no other special use, he’s basically god and he never does jackshit with that power!!! Imagine the possibilities!!!! And he does nothing intresting with it!!!!!
@RedStingBlogs 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the minimal to lack of magic in the Harry Potter movie sequels... And the fact they just started wearing 'muggle' school uniforms... I miss the cloaks 😉
@dreamcaster964 3 жыл бұрын
Because then the superpowers they do have is unimpressive.
@jdonvance 3 жыл бұрын
@@dreamcaster964 There is a right way to do it and a wrong way. With a sufficient amount of imagination, creators often find new and interesting ways for a character to leverage their abilities. Probably the best example is The Flash. You could say "He run real good", but outrunning gravity to scale a building, vibrating through solid objects and attacks, and spinning to create air vortexes are ways he can use a basic ability in unique ways.
@jaxhayes4372 3 жыл бұрын
Okay now I’m thinking of the psychological effects of drowning for eternity, cue immense research-
@DrGandW 3 жыл бұрын
The “gunned down” scene really shocked me because I really thought it was just gonna be some dumb action movie I watched with my mom, she only put it on because she’s a huge Charlize Theron fan. KZfaq recommended me this(spying on my Netflix watching mfs) and I’m really glad, had a ton of fun with this movie.
@EduardoGomez-bd1us 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say this right now, John Wick does action like no other, in every other movie, they try to mimick it the enemies their fighting take WAAYYY too long to react or actually try to get up close and personal for some reason whereas in John Wick they shoot him on sight or react accordingly and he has to react fast and he feels mortal, as to this where yes the concept is them being immortal, but they somehow feel OP and invincible and removes immersion by the slow reaction times or the things I’ve mentioned above brought to us by the enemies of this wanna be movies. I hope this made sense I am extremely tired. It’s 2AM lol
@CQ8TV 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the form of your videos very clean ! Even the ads are placed between 'chapters' and that's really cool because it don't cut an explanation or anything ! Really good job man :)
@greenrockgirl5150 4 сағат бұрын
Idk why but I always loved the sound of Filmento’s transition slides. It’s really calming for some reason.
@afifhunter1295 3 жыл бұрын
Missed a great opportunity to put the new will smith meme on the thumbnail
@Ramsey276one 3 жыл бұрын
Link please?
@theleshan 3 жыл бұрын
I literally watched this movie yesterday and it was awesome. I partly waited for a villain worthy of their skills then we found out it was just a bunch of guys who were eliminated very easily barely an inconvenience. But it was awesome that the next villain was introduced at the very end, and she is likely going to prove to be a challenge. Therefore, I feel that the sequel will be waaaaaay better and this was just an introduction of the characters are and what they can do.
@achilleas_christ9136 3 жыл бұрын
I'm the only one that bored with movies that show the protagoninsts slaying trained soldiers like they are bots in videogame.
@klookval5202 3 жыл бұрын
Okay so Andy is like 6000 years old. two of them have been alive since the crusades. I think is believable that trained soilders who have been alive for hundered if not thousands of years could slay trained soldiers of what 30 years with easy.
@achilleas_christ9136 3 жыл бұрын
@@klookval5202 if they were fighting with swords yes but with guns experience doesnt make you invincible.
@klookval5202 3 жыл бұрын
@@achilleas_christ9136 fair enough neither does experience with swords
@DeadpoolAli 3 жыл бұрын
@@achilleas_christ9136 they get shot, stabbed and downed alot. Thing is a mortal would have been downed for the fight they get back up. theres a couple of times through out the movie where one of the team members gets fully killed and his buddy picks up the slack until they can regenerate. Its not like a chuck norris scene where the hero never gets a scratch, you can see in this vid where one of them literally has their intensiveness leaking out as for gun experience... You realize they fought in probably every major (hell even minor) war since the invention of the gun... you pick up some things. imagine the punisher but with centuries of experience... also they cant die.
@agentlinrov1474 3 жыл бұрын
@@achilleas_christ9136 They have used guns or firearms when the first range weapon was made. Do you think they wont learn how to use new weapons?
@JynxedKoma 3 жыл бұрын
11:10 *Stand down, Neville!* 13:23 *Stand down, Neville!* 13:27 *Stand down, Neville!* 13:30 *Stand down, Neville!*
@pgplaysvidya 3 жыл бұрын
I read the comic after watching the movie, and the movie sticks really close to the comic (events happen out of order from the comic and there are extra scenes, but so what?) really liked the movie. I can see how some critics would think the movie was your bland "so what?" action movie though. But what old guard does right, it does it really well. The things it can improve, I am willing to wait for the sequel to get right
@petermarais4168 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I have to say about this channel is apart from all the interesting stuff you explain on a detailed level, the editing in your videos is just so entertaining to watch and makes for a all round really great video, keep up the great work
@siddharthkhirwar7192 3 жыл бұрын
Alternative Title: The Old Guard - How to Succeed at Female-led / Representative blockbusters
@SpoopySquid 3 жыл бұрын
Step 1 is apparently get Charlize Theron. With Old Guard, Atomic Blonde and Fury Road, she's been nailing the badass heroine roll lately
@WLxMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest point of success for this movie on that front was the fact that they didn't pander. It all felt natural and not forced. Unlike a lot of other movies where they try to ham fist in "progressive" elements and end up ultimately hurting the message those elements bring, which is, different people exist all around you in your daily life and are just as much a part of it as you are.
@b.c.102 3 жыл бұрын
@@pankker474 it worked because the actors sold the chemistry of the relationship very well - they felt like two people who had been together for centuries
@Pinokette 3 жыл бұрын
@@WLxMusic It felt predictable. I knew the fifth one would be a black person and probably a woman. The gay couple was nicely written tho. You see the two of them sleeping in the train together, in the back of some shots, and you ask yourself why. And you put 2 and 2 together. Clever writing/directing.
@WLxMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@pankker474 I felt the scene was more about them trying to catch the guards off guard, you know, cause presumably they've been in that situation many many times, and they didn't simply care about what the guards would think. The vibe i get from the writing is that these people are so old and experienced that the ideals of, in their eyes, children, didn't matter to them. One of them even said as much. So in that sense, it felt natural that they'd try to mess with the guards like that.
@KusunokiSG47 3 жыл бұрын
I think the anime "Ajin: Demi Human" execute the concept of immortality averagely enjoyable The people there develops various strategies to subdue immortals, having perspective not only the immortals but the pursuers too
@GravSh4rk 3 жыл бұрын
when Sato tried recruiting and the ones who didn't join him he sealed in oil barrels and threw in a pit made me think of the iron maiden in the ocean, just constantly starved of oxygen
@Fearienify 3 жыл бұрын
The Hallway scene in season 1 was perfection and what i show people to watch Ajin. Both sides utilizing what they know to takedown and prevent being taken down.
@Moonystab 3 жыл бұрын
This movie got some cool things too, stop being a weeb
@Moonystab 3 жыл бұрын
@happy face almost every anime has a character that stop the action to narrate what is actually happening, Ajin has it, like any other anime, it's good to think about yourself and show and not tell, anime does both, so it's kinda dull to compare an anime like Ajin to a movie, "but ajin é better"... AJIN HAS 10+ EPISODES
@randomericthings7506 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair with “Gemini Man” if you watched to see Will Smith beat up Will Smith than you ultimately got what you came for.
@DanBrown96 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@humanmanlastname8340 3 жыл бұрын
Will smith will smithed will smith Edit: then they teamed up until another will smith tried to will smith them, then working together the will smiths will smithed the other will smith to death
@mikrikbell 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the exact same way about Oblivion with Tom Cruise
@striker8961 3 жыл бұрын
oh cool I was actually putting off watching this since I thought, they will totally fail at this but now I think I might check it out.
@falsinar 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely think it is worth watching; started viewing this video, realised i'm about to be spoilered into oblivion, so watched the movie first. It is not going to be someone's all-time favourite movie, but it IS solid. I like the pacing, the original ideas. And the action is good, because it's filled with awesome moments; stuff that immortals can pull of with hundreds, if not thousands of years of experience fighting together; and yet it's not overly flashy. I give the movie a solid 7-8.
@EmyN 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's ok, it's nothing amazing, just keep that in mind
@Flint-Dibble-the-Don 3 жыл бұрын
@@EmyN I think it's more K. than O.K.
@Biring1 3 жыл бұрын
It's not a good film lol
@ed299 3 жыл бұрын
@@Biring1 cry baby cry
@vonzellable 3 жыл бұрын
Your analysis are always on point. I can point out a few things here and there as to why I like or not like a movie. But you quantify it so well. You put words to my gut feelings. Thank you for your work.
@robertarnold6076 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! The Old Guard was (and still is) the best movie I watched this year and the breakdown and movie comparisons you did here only proved it more
@calebhammond1357 3 жыл бұрын
I really loved the concept for "In Time" where how long you live is based on how much money you had. Unfortunately, the movie sucked.
@bourdiergustave1506 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. They barely did anything with that idea. The concept was so good and we got nothing for it.
@AsdfghjkL-lv6kb 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the movie started to fail when they met each other
@p.a.r.c1694 3 жыл бұрын
6:01 you even used the respawn sound and bonfire.
@Filmento 3 жыл бұрын
I gotchu
@niconachozstudio1952 3 жыл бұрын
#relatable
@saltissalty3498 3 жыл бұрын
I even expect him to put a bonfire around
@Ramsey276one 3 жыл бұрын
MASTERFUL
@Ramsey276one 3 жыл бұрын
6:02... I'm marrying that medic... Um... Hello?
@rrteppo 3 жыл бұрын
I have always been a fan of the stories about the immortal warriors. Something about the concept has always been interesting to me, and this movie hit a ton of really cool concepts.
@raffy234 3 жыл бұрын
When I watched THE OLD GUARD it was definitely an emotional ride. The "boring" first 18 minutes become so much more meaningful if you watch it again after finishing the movie. The whole movie is filled with hope and despair. I cried, laughed and feared for the characters. I especially loved that the movie defied my expectations without me ever feeling betrayed or left out or lost. Without it ever feeling "pointless".
@raffy234 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I liked they didn't shy away from all the things most movie makers are scared of doing. A woman as MC AND a black woman as 2nd MC (double female leads) AND 2 of the three main men in the movies are in a homosexual romantic relationship AND showing their feelings and physical parts of their relationship AND no extra romance happening along the main story (like, imagine Andy or Nile or Booker developing romantic emotions for one another along the main story, which would have taken from the plot line) AND instead of following the person that is as confused as we are (Nile) we follow Andy's story who already knows some stuff AND all exposition is followed by IMAGES, not just words. Sadly, the movie wasn't perfect but it well scraped by it. I would have preferred a finished ending to the movie, not a tease for a follow-up but I don't mind that.
@munkyzzb7504 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this as a slap stick comedy. Were they are just really accident prone.
@muznick 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of like the show "OW, MY BALLS!" from the movie Idiocracy.
@mydogsfacelookslikeastockp8275 3 жыл бұрын
Because they never learn to be careful
@jambononi 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of baklava she's obsessed with eating butter, so keeps dropping everything
@coolgreenbug7551 3 жыл бұрын
Final Destination without steaks, or plenty of steaks if that's how they die one time
@MisterGames 3 жыл бұрын
Those dearly departed with Goldie Horne and Merryl Streep
@tomryks 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time (other than Disney properties) that I watched the movie before Filmento, kinda sweet
@g.d.graham2446 10 ай бұрын
12:20 One of the best explanations for the potential of Gemini Man I've ever seen
@criztu 2 жыл бұрын
man, I can't get enough of this channel
@Sensko 3 жыл бұрын
So, to someone who's watched/read the thing: Do they address why stuff like decapitation or completely cremating the body would not permanently kill them?
@juanmartinhernandez2343 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it just works like deadpool´s inmortality, the regeneration is so strong that only the head could maintein itself, and the same with the cremation
@hugovonpayns9291 3 жыл бұрын
You are right! In Highlander decapitation is enough
@CorpeningMedia 3 жыл бұрын
It is not an issue raised, but it isn't missed. People are not trying to kill them.
@kingcatmushroom530 3 жыл бұрын
It is mentioned in the movie that they survided being burn at the stake
@bardoomguy 3 жыл бұрын
The movie doesn't address any of that, no. This is one of the "turn your brain off" type of movies where you just have to accept whatever is happening
@meggaman7 3 жыл бұрын
"Back in the day humans *used to* be pretty closed minded." Yeah. The world would be in a pretty shitty state if humanity never got past that wouldn't it?
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
Does Filmento realize that Homo sapiens had to be open minded enough to leave the caves 100s of 1000s of years ago in order for civilization to exist? With that said... what the hell is he talking about? That mother of a 3 year old who got murdered for saying “all lives matter” is pretty open minded.
@dotboy9080 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealNormanBates SARCASM is the word you were looking for
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
Ian Walker I’m not wrong. 😎
@Xuhybrid 3 жыл бұрын
@Ian Walker Whoosh. Also, that's a thing that happened. Cold blooded murder for saying common sense out loud.
@utubebgay 3 жыл бұрын
it's almost like you're sarcastic in a dry, understated way.
@examfight2492 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this title of filmento's video.. So I first went and saw 'The old guard' and then came back to this video. Loved both of them.
@AdityaSingh-lp5rp 3 жыл бұрын
"which would make John wick proud or litigious"
@zackswitch9656 3 жыл бұрын
Make a statement not a quote.
@AdityaSingh-lp5rp 3 жыл бұрын
@@zackswitch9656 I wanted a discussion on the statement
@sparrow5813 3 жыл бұрын
How many children have you killed? Mickey: 01:49
@SabbySabs 3 жыл бұрын
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@bkimatab 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite Filmento analysis video. Really shows how skilled and knowledgeable he is at film analysis and script writing.
@mr.rinzler6476 3 жыл бұрын
The concept of Tron:Legacy is great. Having a digital world where you can actually go and there is population as programs. You should watch.
@houndofculann1793 3 жыл бұрын
That was the concept of original Tron. Tron: Legacy is the sequel
@popgas3821 3 жыл бұрын
"Bourne Copycat", slaps jpeg of Quantum Solace, ouch! 😂
@stumpy1146 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment...
@TEAMHYBRID007 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff I never even thought of it in that light keep up the great work man you're doing an excellent job I look forward to anything and everything you put up
@arun_gaming1426 3 жыл бұрын
OH BOY the editing in this video is LIT and the comedic sense is so good ! 'that cut too it' dialogue was on point !!
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 жыл бұрын
Here we are born to be free, princes of the universe...Vampire? Hasn't watched Highlander franchise: confirmed LOL Original content?= Removes the Quickening, now we's a original :P
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw 3 жыл бұрын
Highlander should have stopped at the original movie, change my mind
@TheDMind 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw The movie series? Fully agree. The TV series was great however - it's just best to think of it as a separate continuity.
@thomashiggins9320 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDMind Yeah. The first season of the TV series started off a bit rough, but it found its footing reasonably quickly After that, it turned into a pretty good action series. I thought of the original Highlander, also, when I saw this. It stuck to its concept beautifully, also. The less said about the sequels, the better.
@OsvaldoChannel1 3 жыл бұрын
everyone: *talks about the movie* me: "...is that Dudley?"
@ape_on_rhino8467 3 жыл бұрын
In span of 20 minutes you informed me about existence of this movie, made me love the concept and send me watch it. thank you very much.
@shawnmichaelbegnaud 3 жыл бұрын
This analysis made me leap from seat . No BS . You are awesome
@EVRDYRNGD 3 жыл бұрын
So in one part you suggest filmwriters dumb their material down for impatient and eager viewers... no If people don't want to take the time to watch and appreciate a film then they can go watch tik-toks. Writers shouldn't accommodate Hollywood. Thats the issue we've been experiencing for years
@Doflaminguard 3 жыл бұрын
He means use action to tell plot, not info dump by talking.
@EVRDYRNGD 3 жыл бұрын
@@Doflaminguard I don't care what he means. Let writers write. Everyone has their own creative process. I like slow building well thought out plots as opposed to action packed bs
@NoMustang273 3 жыл бұрын
@@EVRDYRNGD I mean there are better and worse ways to start a story. Slow burners can be good if done well, or they can be bad. Art is subjective but there are still good and bad things in how you tell a story.
@michalsirotek9766 3 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in an analysis of the movie Crawl (2019). Personally, I found this film very good. But ratings from many people are low. Why?
@makatron 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the whole chase inside the house, even though Florida houses don't have basement
@derekmensch3601 3 жыл бұрын
@@makatron Isn't it called crawl because because of the Crawl space under the house? I haven't actually watched it yet.
@davidmayberry3190 3 жыл бұрын
Funny I've heard a lot of people say it's good, but I started watching it, then got really bored started falling asleep and never went back to finish it, which is rare for me. It just reminded me of a movie like the shallows (or a hundred other movies) where they have to make the best of one location.
@bubblewrapstargirl 3 жыл бұрын
Because its super cheesy. It's a solid B horror but not one I'd be interesting in seeing multiple times. It was OK, nothing more.
@Spills51 3 жыл бұрын
IDK, I think I disliked it (may be a bit strong, it was ok) cause I wasnt really into the characters....The Gators were cool....but I started doing something else mid movie.
@proximo3257 3 жыл бұрын
Your video inspired me to watch The Old Guard. Did you spoil the movie for me? Nope, I believe it was 500% better because of watching it for the first time AFTER watching your video essay. Thank you.
@seyonkavin1898 3 жыл бұрын
Learned so much.. also saw/felt a much better version of both films under 20 min. Thank you.
@caseyloomis2168 3 жыл бұрын
First, great analysis. Second, the belief that people of the past feared what was different and thus sought to destroy it is factually incorrect. In every historical case, one group decided they wanted to kill another group so they manufactured a difference, to justify the killing. In short, the desired to kill came before the difference.
@IrishWriter 3 жыл бұрын
In every historical case they manufactured a difference? What strange blanket statement totally unrelated to reality.
@caseyloomis2168 3 жыл бұрын
@@IrishWriter The Rwandan genocide would be one example
@IrishWriter 3 жыл бұрын
@@caseyloomis2168 Totally agree with that example, just not with the phrase "in every historical case"
@caseyloomis2168 3 жыл бұрын
@@IrishWriter I could have been more modest, you're right. But people fear everything because they're different. If that were the case societies would never innovate, or blend with other cultures and America does that regularly.
@IrishWriter 3 жыл бұрын
@@caseyloomis2168 Fair enough, it was just the one statement that caught me off guard. I absolutely agree that we can all learn to live in harmony. I just also think there have been legitimate differences in history necessitating war.
@yanjirujan193 3 жыл бұрын
8:30 yeah, too many "LIVE DIE REPEAT" in their promotion, people stop calling it by its real name
@pier5399 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment about the title ^^
@yohanesbobbysanjaya3541 3 жыл бұрын
yeah i agree, All You Need Is Kill sounds better
@debbys-abqnm4537 3 жыл бұрын
_Edge of Tomorrow_
@zekewalker1350 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was titled differently in different countries
@makatron 3 жыл бұрын
The Edge of Tomorrow was the best action sci-fi that year. Sequel its coming though.
@markwtal9453 3 жыл бұрын
I watched it because of this video. It was great! I kept thinking of "man from earth" while watching. Good concept, interesting, cool action and great lead. Thanks for the recommendation!
@casualtrin9834 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched Old Guard and I’m obsessed! I hope they make more!!!
@discworldandknownspace4491 3 жыл бұрын
Disney's immortality sucks... But in a whole different way.