Tesla Cybertruck is USELESS for Off-Road & Overland, For Now - Cybertruck Review as Offroad Platform
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8 ай бұрынThe Tesla Cybertruck is a feat of engineering... there is no denying that. But is it actually a good Off-Road or Overland vehicle? I'n this video I will share 5 reasons I think it isn't ready to be a real Offroad vehicle... yet. It take more then an impressive power plant and 4X4 to make a vehicle you can trust when you are really out there.
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@kyddshine 7 ай бұрын
Once you put a light bar, bumper, a roof anything. Range is going to drop.
@ibsn87 4 ай бұрын
Exactly the same as my 4x4….. took off the solid, 80kg full floor roofrack and get another 50km from my 120L of diesel….. took off my mud tyres and got another 80-90km of range. Funny how you can’t avoid physics on vehicles.
@kyddshine 4 ай бұрын
@@ibsn87 right. Physics it a bitch as compared to cartoons and draft tables.
@MJ-zo5gb 7 ай бұрын
I think there’s a difference between over landing in off-roading. While I don’t think the cyber truck would make a great over landing choice, It would do the way many people use it: going down dirt roads, go camping, snow etc..
@wademt 7 ай бұрын
He’s the guy who made this video is conflating the two to confirm his bias.
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
@@wademt hey 👋 - you may have not noticed, but this is a channel dedicated to talking about off-roading and this review is a review about off-roading a CT… it’s not my fault you can’t understand context because YOUR own Bias is making you you that blind….
@wademt 7 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAuto my bias is to not pollute the environment I’m in. And I’m willing to make sacrifices to do so. Sue me.
@ekhaat 6 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAuto"it’s not my fault you can’t understand context" It is you who doesn't understand context. The CT os not an overlander. You might as well say that a Fiat 500e is a bad Formula 1 car. It isn't a formula 1 car, just as the CT isn't an overlander. It's a pickup truck. Geez
@ApocGuy 6 ай бұрын
with that in mind, fifty years old bronco of F150 would be just as good (gasoline price aside) or drop 30K in pickup, 20 in shell and you have instant overlander/offorader/camper ... and you'čč still have at least 10K and more to spare on gasoline and spare parts
@qum3456 8 ай бұрын
The CT drove 1200 miles of Baja trails and only suffered one flat tired. No other failures.
@1flash3571 8 ай бұрын
That is one time or only a few times though. It needs to be tested more than a few times for it to be really tested. Not all trips are gonna be the same.
@billle3155 8 ай бұрын
You mean that really long dirt trail with no real off-road challenges? And no videos of proof? Only about 7 minutes coming from their engineer that says it did good with no other videos to prove it after 1200 miles? Riiiiiggght
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
Ya another joke of a video from Tesla 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@hobo1704 7 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@zbyszanna 6 ай бұрын
Regardless of how well it behaved in that test, when people start doing it enough times, the accidents will happen. It doesn't matter how good or bad the truck is, it's the law of the large numbers.
@windsolarupnorth7084 8 ай бұрын
I don't get why people think this is good engineering? They couldn't fit a descent size battery in it and offers a "range extender" that will eat up the cargospace? They couldn't even fit a place for a sparetire. Both extender and sparetire goes in the flatbed. You can't even have both because only one of them fits. To me it seems like Tesla has done absolutely nothing to improve the prototype from 2019. Top notch engineering?
@martymcyourflysdown6872 7 ай бұрын
What’s it called when a Tesla owner wants to force everyone else to have one? Misery loves company.
@CashJohnston 7 ай бұрын
My “off roading” is very different from yours. I’m not a Moab rock crawler. I go to the forest. Im usually still within 100 miles of a charger where I go. I drive a Ram 1500 for that today so the Cybertruck should work for me. But I’ll keep the Ram until I’m sure.
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
That makes sense to me… people need to adjust reviews to their actual use… you get it 👍
@MS-ht9it 6 ай бұрын
Forest service roads all day :-) The issue(s) stopping me from considering Evs is the range loss when climbing up and down, and overnights "cold-soaking" the battery, drastically reducing the range. In CO this would be risky.
@ferretsmiles 6 ай бұрын
From the recent videos that have come out i dont think that a cyber truck would even work for that.
@DaveHaynie Ай бұрын
Depends on the forest... I used to do that with my old Ford Explorer, back when they were actually made for offroad. A big problem with the Cybertruck is that it's so wide and difficult to judge, you're not going to fit, much less avoid getting stuck.
@zachrenner2794 8 ай бұрын
A lot of reviewers assume EV buyers are completely against fossil fuels, I have an 8kw portable generator (yes, I can lift it in and out of the bed myself) and would take this with me along with a few jerry cans and solar panels for camp power. A bit less efficient to recharge with a generator? Sure, but it's an option, and you then have two fuel options for your vehicle! More of the freedom you're looking for. As far as overlander size and weight; have you seen some of the diesel overlanding rigs out there?
@NitroZakis 7 ай бұрын
Great points. Also, when Russia was trying hard to destroy our grid, I’ve done some math here about fuel economy: EV ⚡️ by generator MPG. I have a Model Y and I can go 15% *more* on 1L of gas than on a comparable size ICE vehicle. Regen + aero compensate for charging inefficiencies. Also, a generator’s engine works at optimal RPM all the time, hence better efficiency. Hello from 🇺🇦!
@parkershaw8529 7 ай бұрын
DIY range extender, beats the $16k one pants down. LOL.
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
@@NitroZakis lol!!! what a joke! youll have to wait for long time to recharge your EV you are going to be totally dependent on charging while on an ICE a diesel preferably you can move at any time everywhere you want. some vehicles have over 1000 miles of range with just barely few jerrycans. with auxiliary fuel tank some people can even go to 2000 miles.
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
@@parkershaw8529 the 16k extender is literaly a joke! plus it takes way too much of the bed, on a regular ICE truck you can have an auxiliary fuel tank or a bigger custom one to more than double your range even while towing.
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
I would say that the extreme Musk loyalist are against all fossil fuels , they even refuse to accept the fact that their cars contain parts made from fossil fuel products. With out the use of fossil fuels the world would still be like it was before oil was available . JMO
@ricko_1965 8 ай бұрын
I certainly don't disagree with everything you said: but my guess is "you are part of a very small percentage of folks who off-road in remote places". In that case an ICE Truck 4X4 is definitely a better option.
@antonroux6737 6 ай бұрын
"...a digital battering ram with an unbreakable tether to a world I try to escape." --- very well said 👏
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 7 ай бұрын
Tesla Cybertruck has some serious ground clearance, and if you're only venturing 20 to 50 miles off road it might be fun!
@westerling8436 7 ай бұрын
Like buying a mountainbike for city use and occasionally a dirt road
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 7 ай бұрын
@@westerling8436 More like buying a Highlander to take the kids to school and occasionally visiting grandma up the eroded, dirt driveway.
@westerling8436 7 ай бұрын
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 or like buying ostrich egg to make small fingerfood pancakes for a gay wedding
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 7 ай бұрын
@@westerling8436 ...or importing rare meat from an endangered species to make a generic meatloaf for a group of homeless vets.
@boulderghost4457 7 ай бұрын
Like buying a Ford F150 for tailgaiting a NASCAR race.
@theronwolf3296 6 ай бұрын
One of the reasons that Hertz dropped Teslas is that key parts were very often out of stock, with the vehicle off the road for weeks or even months. Agreed, those 'off roading' ads are an imaginary world. Broken stuff is the norm.
@PEZ4949 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have a Y and love it. I so want/wanted to get one of these, but the range just doesn't work for me; off roading and camping in the West requires more range than they have delivered (giving up 1/3 of the bed space for the range extender is not an option). One of my favorite places to play is the Sawthooths in Idaho. The closet Supercharger is in Boise and it would take, at minimum, half the battery capacity to get where I'm going. Unless they vastly expand the network in these areas, I'll have to pass when my reservation comes up 😞
@boulderghost4457 7 ай бұрын
There is a Supercharger in Hailey now. More coming to Sun Valley and Stanley soon.
@gomezfriesen 7 ай бұрын
A very good video. I have a good buddy of mine who installes electric chargers and somehow dislikes cyber trucks. He is an off roader. Now I understand his points. Thanks. You are very right. Yes, it will take a long time to get EVs offroading. Currently, I think it makes sense to make an incredible truck that will fit 95% of consumers. Then, we'll see if that last 5% happens. This might be that last remaining ICE users to switch. People still ride horses for the sake of riding horses. On your point of control: I noticed that an all wheel model 3 has the same or better control in 10" of snow that my old TJ jeep. I can only imagine the control the Cybertruck will have... especially, with more clearance, and better tires. I imagine that the cyber truck in the future could have an over the air update for off roading, that gears way down, and offers more control. But yes, repairs. I think it comes down to that for off roading. They'll have to figure that out before anyone should take this truck wherever you would want to take it.
@truetech4158 7 ай бұрын
It doesnt seem designed for anything to fit the otherwise pickup truck box framework, but you can bet the stuff that does will cost magnitudes more than the case for multiplatform designs. At least it wont rust, if the rest of it is also stainless, but that probably isnt the case. The batteries could sure use a easy access panel like the tv remote has, and early cellphones.
@rudyjuarez1646 8 ай бұрын
I see it more of a soft-roading vehicle. Great for a weekend off-grid adventure. A simplified "Weekendlander" (credit llod) get away. Give it some time. Somebody will "hold my beer" it to the next level. An exoskeleton, portals, and some sticky Mickey's might get it to the "off-road capable for a couple of hours. lol
@1flash3571 8 ай бұрын
And even Solar panel charger that can be carried on the back of the truck. That way, you can cut the cord.
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
There's enough comments out there now after the reveal that solidify that few US drivers of real trucks are interested. It will be a hit with the hot soccer moms with too much money looking for attention. And of course all the Tesla /Elon minions that are gullible to the BS.
@Tjspycorp 6 ай бұрын
At exactly what it’s going to be great for. People seem to forget that there is a very spectrum between daily commuting and all out week long off road adventures. The cybertruck has its place in there and people will find it over the next year or two. No one should expect it to come out of the factory and hang with a wrangler rubicon. A lot of these expectations are ridiculous
@Grey-Troll 7 ай бұрын
You make some good points, however I do think you are jumping the gun a little... I'll be VERY interested to see some actual offroad footage of the cyber truck on various terrains, of course with a competent experienced driver, just to see what it can do. I'm positive the truck couldn't hold a candle to my 'jeep embarrasser' R50 pathfinder in most remote/off-grid situations, but nevertheless the thing is definitely tough and someone will put it through its paces.
@etfremd 7 ай бұрын
It needs a 600 mile range and a solar power sheet you can roll out and recharge at least some from? Or a range extender generator and liquid fuel. Reliability would be nice to avoid most mechanical break downs. I really hope an aftermarket company can develop a clean burning generator that fits in the bed.
@jimyeats 7 ай бұрын
You would need a solar field to charge that in less than a day, and even then, it would be most of the day. My home is off grid and we have a 6k watt array that is about 20 x 20 feet, and that would take about three or four days to charge this truck.
@EM-cm3fv 3 ай бұрын
Not enough surface area to get a significant amount of range
@Camp4lo 8 ай бұрын
That was a very well done review. Sensible real world perspective. When I am on a tour and I get out to lock my hubs I yell back at all the rigs and say “I’m analog!!!” Nice work sir
@1flash3571 7 ай бұрын
Saying I'm analog doesn't make his reasoning logical. It just means he is BIASED against an EV.
@omnicurious2949 7 ай бұрын
Video is complete baloney! One can charge easily trickle charge (over night) at even the most rural of the villages! You don't need a Supercharger access. In fact, access to a 120/220 volt plug point is more accessible in remote areas than a gas station!
@Barefoot-Bob 7 ай бұрын
@@omnicurious2949 especially in Nevada where some of the Gas stations are powered by Generators! lol Nevada Power is a little behind
@Barefoot-Bob 7 ай бұрын
Ya well I have to 4 wheel everyday for a living in a 10,000 lb 4x4 you can keep those locking hubs.
@stevesiboun 8 ай бұрын
As far as going off grid is concerned, I'm sure someone will come up with portable solar panels. As for drive by wire, I don't think there is a person that has used this tech off roading, other than Tesla. Let's wait for actual test runs. Besides, over the air updates will improve it over time.
@AutumnWind92 8 ай бұрын
Solar panels are extremely inefficient and charging your car with one in the middle of nowhere is just a fantasy unless you plan to wait for days for it to charge.
@stevesiboun 8 ай бұрын
@@AutumnWind92 If your planning to take an EV to one of these areas, it would be wise to plan a trip that will leave you enough power to return. I'm sure Tesla will be happy to install solar powered charging stations in those remote areas if enough people request them. I've checked and you can by 20kw portable EV chargers. Once the CT is out in large numbers, a number of solutions will be on the market. I'm confident it will be a very profitable business for a startup.
@sprimkelnakpim2256 8 ай бұрын
A faster way to charge would be using a diesel generator, cheaper, more efficient than building charging stations, people off road to get away from the city, so leave your evs where they belong, in the city
@zachrenner2794 7 ай бұрын
If it's the lack of physical connection between the steering wheel and axle, plenty of people have been using full hydraulic steering systems for years. Both of my tractors have this, and I think I'd trust an electric system as much.
@AlbertZonneveld 7 ай бұрын
@@AutumnWind92 It is fine if you have like a remote summer cabin with solar panel where you can supply the house or the car with solar panels. You could put like about 10 kW a day in the car. Sure that add only 25 miles a day but is does do the job fo a lot of needs.
@jessedaly7847 7 ай бұрын
I would think a cybertruck would be ideal for replacing our 4Runner for observing and photographing wild horses, in rugged country with 4wd trails. Mainly because it won’t make a bunch of engine noise. Also because we can use it at normal height in snow and if we get high centered we can raise the ride height and back up.
@vasiliyt8600 7 ай бұрын
Modern ICEs are very silent. With a modern efficient offroad ICE (Diesel) you easily get 600 miles of range. My Diesel car for example, has a range of 750 miles (56mpg). How far do you think you can go with in EV in the wild? Especially if you use electric energy of your EV battery, for other stuff too (lights, cooking etc.). EVs are good for commuting and not for much else.
@jessedaly7847 7 ай бұрын
@@vasiliyt8600 we typically don’t need more than a half tank in the 4 runner in a given stretch, a full tank in the 4Runner gives about 340 miles of range so pretty much the same as the Tesla. But it definitely ain’t silent, neither is my ram 2500 6.7 Cummins turbo diesel. And again the adjustable ride height, and superior undercarriage clearance are very attractive.
@swordedaffair 7 ай бұрын
@@vasiliyt8600 "My Diesel car for example, has a range of 750 miles (56mpg). How far do you think you can go with in EV in the wild?" How far (offroading) can you go in your diesel car? Compare apples to apples.
@vasiliyt8600 7 ай бұрын
@@swordedaffair Fuel consumption is pretty constant. Range doesn't change. You can also take fuel canisters, for extra range (or for e-generator). Basically all offroad cars & trucks outside of north america have Diesel engines. EVs will always be city vehicles. Useful only for commuting. For everything else, there are too fragile and too expensive to repair (when it's possible). We will always be "10 years" away of the magic new battery technology, that will fix all the current EV problems. "EV trucks" like Cybertruck, Hummer EV etc. are expensive toys for people who want to show of their wealth (or debt). Bt the way, to get extra range on your Cybertruck, you have to pay an extra *16,000$* (for just +130 miles) and ~600 extra pounds. You can get around the same extra range with a single fuel canister. ;)
@boulderghost4457 7 ай бұрын
Depends on where you live. Ive hunted deer and elk for 25 years 30 miles from my front yard. I use a solar generator and 2nd battleborn in my 4runner now to get to my base camp and run lights, diesel heater, fridge, etc. Those pieces of gear could live in the Cybertruck from day one, just throw em in the bed. I saw a guy who used two 600w solar panels to charge his EV up to 35 miles in one day. That gets me home from most trips up here in Idaho. Not seeing a problem with the Cyber truck to be honest?? By the way, I know plenty of guys who paid $100,000 cash for their overland builds and they can afford it because the are smart and work hard. Do they show it off? Of course, everyone I know shows off their new toys, lol. Don't hate, things are changing for the better and if that makes you insecure or you cant afford to keep up, stick with your old rig. @@vasiliyt8600
@jasonselinger 7 ай бұрын
Good points. So, there is off road driving and there is OFF ROAD DRIVING! Do you think there's room to call this truck a light off-road utility vehicle? I think that's a more appropriate description. On the farm, I want my pickup truck to be able to pull a wagon full of feed across a field, pull a fallen tree of the laneway, take it around the perimeter to inspect/repair a fenceline or maybe pull out a stuck tractor. I can see the 240V in the rear being real handy for taking the welder to a piece broken equipment rather than the other way around. Power outages are a reality out here in the country. It's nice to know I have back up power if my generator konks out. Or at the annual bush party we could have a bit of power for lights, music or a small refrigerator without the wail of a generator. I think this truck is more than capable for that. The extreme crawling that you describe will probably always need specialized modifications. A few aftermarket bull bars etc, would be nice though. Give them time.
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree with you... for light duty off-road like you are talking about I think it would work fine...
@wademt 7 ай бұрын
I am going to drive mine over Stemple Pass via S Fork Poorman Creek in MT this summer. The way to find out how it does is to try it, not decide beforehand. People told me I couldn’t drive my Tesla to Mexico City from MT. But I did it without issue
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
"The way to find out how it does is to try it, not decide beforehand" - this is what I guess someone that doesn't understand suspension, or off-roading or even how to read maps would say, and someone that has 90K lying around they are willing to drop on a car. I can look at my trips I have planned next year... and I can read a Map and see that it wouldn't work even if it does actually get the full range it claims... which they don't... I also own a Tesla and do road trips in it... when I go off-road I try to get away from cities and super chargers not have to check in at one every night.... Maybe watch the video again and listen to the points this time...
@wademt 7 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAuto 1. I have $900k laying around. 2. I was talking about off roading, your talking about off road overlanding. I’ve owned pickups way before you were born. A 64 scout 4 banger. A 72 FJ40. I was born in Cody WY and grew up in MT. I get you like to stay off the beaten path. If you really want to do that I would suggest the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route. I’ve done it twice. On a mountain bike. But I also hate fossil fuel use. And personally I’m willing to drop into a town with a charger to avoid burning fuel. That’s my POV. Your issue with overlanding without any modifications is real. We all make our choices and sometimes choose to make compromises.
@thedrummerification 7 ай бұрын
Step "down" from a Jeep to a Tundra? Hahahaha good one
@theangrycamper 8 ай бұрын
Lets buy one and put an LS motor with solid axles in it!!!
@natejmueller 8 ай бұрын
😂
@KingCobra66 8 ай бұрын
One ton axles on 40's 🤣
@theangrycamper 8 ай бұрын
@@natejmueller can you imagine the views that would get. someones gonna do it and win the internet!!!
@theangrycamper 8 ай бұрын
@@KingCobra66 Let's do it!!!
@rsdaarud 8 ай бұрын
Now we're talking! Throw in a Borla exhaust!
@MsAjax409 7 ай бұрын
You've made some valid points, but others were clearly a stretch. The Cybertruck will out shine traditional ICE offroad vehicles in several ways. Some balance in your review would have made it better. Here are some advantages: 1) 17.44" of clear flat ground clearance (on differential hub) 2) A very low center of gravity (rollover resistant) 3) Full torque to the wheels (no granny gear transmission) 4) Approach angle of 35 degrees and a departure angle of 28 degrees 5) Adaptive air suspension (keeps wheel in contact with ground) 6) Durable exterior (no scratches or dents) 7) 340 miles of range (470 miles with range extender) 8) 2500 lbs payload capacity 9) All-wheel steering (small turning radius)
@omnicurious2949 7 ай бұрын
Agree! It's always the traditional enthusiasts who piss on new stuff....because they've done stuff a certain way (tough way) all their life. If something new comes along that improves on stuff in such a way that a whole lot of newbies can take advantage of, it pisses off the traditionalists. They'll start claiming they've done stuff for decades.....show off their elaborate setups....all of which have now become obsolete! Fact is you can charge can trickle charge (over night) at even the most rural of the villages! You don't need a Supercharger access. In fact, access to a 120/220 volt plug point is more accessible in remote areas than a gas station!
@gabejbh 7 ай бұрын
As an avid rock climber, I purchased a jeep Wrangler back in 2016 and took that car everywhere. All kinds of trails and through all types of weather. I think every point this video makes is incredibly valid. Most of the crags we go to have no civilization for miles and some serious rocks that require some extreme precision. This truck is a marketing genius but it is not a lifestyle vehicle and is a non starter for true over landers and outdoorsy people. But the thing is... it still appeals to probably 90% of the population and is an impressive vehicle. @@omnicurious2949
@omnicurious2949 7 ай бұрын
@@gabejbhI am rock climber myself. What most folks are missing is that an ICE truck that travels 4 hours while offroading 50-100 miles would have guzzled all its gas (bcos you're always in the lowest gear and engine's always revving), but an EV is way more efficient in using it's energy. with a 300-400 mile range on EV, you'll be able to easily go in and out of most expeditions. Also, most rural areas have 220v outlet to help you trickle charge over night.
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
Ms Ajax drank all the Musky wine , it's too late.
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
you are full of crap lol!!!! it will only outshine in 0-60 the rest is utter garbage! a 90hp super old toyota in africa or south america or even middle east are way more capable and usefull that crap!
@johncahill3644 7 ай бұрын
Sandy Munro bought his Cybertruck for hunting and off-roading. Whereas your comments are conjecture, he’s actually driven a Cybertruck and knows more about how they’re made.
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
He's also just another Tesla hype man . By the way do you know where Sandy got his engineering degree ?
@timmo42 6 ай бұрын
Drive by wire is variable ratio depending on speed… it’s going to be easy to judge your steering inputs.
@shckltnebay 6 ай бұрын
Why arent there as maybe of these vid for the Hummer HV or the RIVIAN as for the CT?
@2008tmp 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait for your next video where you tell us that an F-350 is also not the perfect off-road vehicle.
@OutdoorAuto 8 ай бұрын
I have never seen the F350 advertised as an Off-Road vehicle...
@chrispeterson7898 8 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAuto I have never seen an advertisement from Tesla. Cybertruck is said to be capable of offroad, rock crawling is a whole different category of offroad though.
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
@@chrispeterson7898Really , well since Tesla just started advertising that might be true . Elon and the Tesla investors channels posing as automotive journalist have 100 % made claims of it's off-road awesomeness among other completely misleading statements. Wake up man.
@chuggynation8275 7 ай бұрын
@@chrispeterson7898 You've never seen an ad for Tesla ? Did you lose your mind typing that ? The reveal itself is advertisement champ ...
@FreedomToRoam86 6 ай бұрын
Well done video. I have a Ford Lightning. For me. Doing light dirt road camping, it’s fine. But overlanding- not a chance I’m going that much farther from power!
@jamestolles2353 8 ай бұрын
My M-Y was severely rear-ended in July. $17k in damages. Repaired by the end of Aug. multiple repair shops here in Las Vegas can handle Teslas.
@OutdoorAuto 8 ай бұрын
Yeah... problem is basically the Mountain West, the Mid West... all the places that people live where you don't have to worry about a catalytic converter getting stolen don't have the best Tesla Support... Which is a lot of the country... like I said in the video... if you live in a city and its your grocery getter, its a killer solution.
@darranjacobsen4366 8 ай бұрын
"The car she paid for with her own money, and that we own, grounded her" LOL
@swagatadhara4257 8 ай бұрын
It’s only a ‘feature’ You can drive the car just fine And also it’s regulated by government what you can do in autopilot not by Tesla She just had to dis-engage the autopilot which is fairly simple rather than speeding on autopilot and sue them on court if accident happens 😂
@OutdoorAuto 8 ай бұрын
It is kinda crazy... right
@OutdoorAuto 8 ай бұрын
We weren't in Autopilot... we were in Rainbow Road.... I feel dumb even saying that...
@darranjacobsen4366 8 ай бұрын
Stupid is Stupid@@swagatadhara4257
@RobertLoPinto 7 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAuto7:08 You literally said she was in "auto driving mode". That's autopilot. Rainbow road mode has nothing to do with that. You can't go past 90 mph while Autopilot is engaged. It's a safety feature, not a bug. She should have disengaged it (takes a split second to do that). No one is "taking away a feature I paid for". Absolutely silliest statement I've ever heard. There is no temporary disabling of Autopilot if you were not already in Autopilot mode when she floored it. That's just flat out wrong.
@segua 6 ай бұрын
One thing I’m always surprised I don’t hear is comparison of wheelbase to wheelbase comparison when off roading . It’s like listening to people compare a ford expedition to a CJ off-road experience.
@xenawarriorprincess6536 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think you’re being fair. You are an exception to the majority when it comes to off road id say. Majority will be just fine in the cyber truck with short trips on less extreme trail. Fast Depreciation on new tech is the norm not just in vehicles. I agree with fixing when damaged’ being an issue but with a simpler mechanical drive system, less issues.
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
The video of it getting stuck in a relatively small obstacle in a little snow and having to rescued by a Ford Super Duty. That made my day. Almost as funny was the video of how the flimsy stamped Aarms collapsed when they tried to do real offroad stuff. There is a reason real trucks have a full frame and forged Aarms in many cases.
@landcruiser801 7 ай бұрын
The reason is archaic technology.
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
@@landcruiser801 No , it works and can handle more abuse in rough conditions . Prove me wrong.
@landcruiser801 7 ай бұрын
@@bobbybishop5662 Cyber Truck, production version not the test vehicle with crap tyres on. There you go proved wrong. Happy now? Until we see these things out and about and having production vehicles put through their paces by the general public nobody can say how good or bad it is. On paper it has the potential to be very good.. on the ground, let's wait and see.
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
@@landcruiser801 I was referring to the reason real trucks have full frames and heavy duty suspension components . Can you not keep up.
@landcruiser801 7 ай бұрын
@@bobbybishop5662 They have full frames because they are a short step up from the cart and horse and cheap to make. The Tesla has heavy duty suspension components with 12" travel and 17" of ground clearance.
@Enceos 7 ай бұрын
One more dealbreaker for off-roading on Cybertruck is it's too heavy, it's tires will drown in soft soil and sand.
@Espiritiv 2 ай бұрын
Does plenty fine in deep sand on its stock tires
@tedantares2751 7 ай бұрын
Elon keeps calling CyberTrash a "post-apocalyptic" truck. He for some reason forgot that in the post-apocalyptic world there will likely be no electricity
@swordedaffair 7 ай бұрын
"...in the post-apocalyptic world there will likely be no electricity' Tell that to people living off-grid making their own electricity. There are lots of them, but there aren't too many people making their own gasoline.
@tedantares2751 7 ай бұрын
@@swordedaffair Right. And most of them use gasoline to run their 1-2 kW ICE generators, although some use solar panels that may be enough to light their cabins and charge their laptops but certainly not enough to charge an EV
@swordedaffair 6 ай бұрын
@@tedantares2751 If you're planning for a post-apocalyptic world, you'd better not be expecting to be able to run down to the gas station to buy gas - for your car, or for your generator. PV and wind generators would be the first choice.
@tedantares2751 6 ай бұрын
@@swordedaffair Gasoline, kerosene and other petroleum-based fuels have been made by mankind for centuries. Natural gas have been used as fuel for centuries too. Gasoline is even made by cottage industry in many developing countries. Distillery installations for making such low-quality gasoline are very simple - it's just a tank filled with petroleum that is heated by open fire (either wood or petroleum is burned). Fumes are then cooled down and condensed.
@tedantares2751 6 ай бұрын
@@swordedaffair PhotoVoltaics? Solar panels? And other microelectronics? Maybe computers too? You definitely need to watch Mad Max sequel again.
@makoshark40 6 ай бұрын
I think the range offroad is higher because your not going as fast. Obviously if you doing allot of rock climbing that wont be true. Also i can see a solar array becoming popular for these trucks but that would also be siutational
@listerdave1240 7 ай бұрын
Many good points but I think you're too much assuming that all offroad is the same. For the type of offroading I used to do some 30 odd years ago I think this would have been great. Not all offroad is in remote places. Offroading is not just about going on long trips for a week or more, there are events, competitions, local trails and so on. The 48V system should not be too much of a problem as you can easily get a 48V to 12V converter and power most accessories with it, though not something like an electric winch probably. With regards to the steering I'm guessing it shouldn't be a problem either and even if it is initially they will probably fix it within a few months if people complain. The drive by wire with rear steering has great potential if in offroad mode they enable (through software) independent manual control of the front and rear steering. When it comes to customizing it will probably be several years before that becomes practical, partly due to software not allowing you to do various things and partly just because it will take time for the aftermarket manufacturers to catch up not just with the new way of doing things, such as the 48V system which is actually much better than 12V for powering a winch. I think for some people, maybe not most, it will be fine offroad and perhaps even better than any other stock offroad vehicle in some respects.
@e4now788 7 ай бұрын
Wow! Excellent points you are making in this video. Thank you.
@mmagbee 7 ай бұрын
Your dialogue is the best - Cheers
@zzxd7720 8 ай бұрын
Wouldn't be possible to build a diesel generator, that fits inside the same space of the extension pack?
@hobo1704 7 ай бұрын
😂 Yeah, EV's are the future..
@kevinsantarossa6850 7 ай бұрын
Pretty sure I designed the cyber truck when I was in grade 3. That hideous toaster on wheels literally looks like the tucks I drew as a small child.
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
Mine had a stick figure driving... but he had a cool hat....
@kevinsantarossa6850 7 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAuto hahaha nice addition. It probably had way better build quality as well.
@johans7119 7 ай бұрын
I'm sure the tether thing will be an issue for the longest time (although there are EVs with over 600 miles range already) and repairs will be more technical/premium but I'm sure they will get heavily modified as soon as they are in people's hands. I want to wait and see the reality of drive by wire, my guess is you quickly get used to it (it changes the multiplier based on speed). The NHTSA regulations causing problems for autopilot users are well known. You can stop for a moment to reset it but it looks like Tesla have been forced to make it stricter recently. LFP batteries are shorter range but can be extinguished much more easily -longer range LFP are in the pipeline. Tesla are much less likely to catch fire Vs gas or diesel (7x and 11x less). I want to see it so the Rubicon like the Rivian did. I know it's a shorter distance but it's sufficient for most people. Maybe the overland version will come in a few years as technology catches up
@kirksmith5611 6 ай бұрын
Drive by wire isn't new......
@yootoober2009 6 ай бұрын
From an F-4 to F-16 and newer fighter jets did not take long to transition from F-4 push/pull rods and cables to full Fly by Wire system. I'm guessing there's not one new airplane today that will use or prefer to use push/pull and cable flight control system.... Just imagine what kind of hyrdaulic systems it will take to fly an Airbus 380.... I'd would hate to have to rig one of those... It will not take long for car and truck drivers to get spoiled by the difference...
@kenik2023 6 ай бұрын
Drive by wire will not be a problem. Your auto pilot will, you will also not be able to put your car fire out. It's not the frequency thats the problem...it's the intensity. 🤦🏿♂️
@JordanBurghoff 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video, but I’m failing to see what actually makes it a bad overlander based on the points you made. I have a Rivian, which has much less fast charger locations available and even less accessory options. I’ve made it into my dream overlander and haven’t had an issue in the ~4,000 miles of overlanding I’ve done in it. If you’re arguing that it’s too expensive to beat up, that’s a valid point and should be weighed by the budget of the owner…just like any rig out there. The whole charging thing isn’t a problem because you can literally plug it into any wall outlet in a pinch or dip into town for a charge, kind of like how you would get gas. Yes that’s assuming there is a charger nearby, but I never had a problem finding a charger with a little forethought. My understanding of the steer by wire on the CT is that it doesn’t “decide” how to interpret your steering input, but it changes the steering profile based on speed. So a 1/4 turn at 5mph while turning in a flat parking lot will give the same effect of a 1/4 turn at 5mph on a rock face. It’s not analyzing the terrain and deciding how much it needs to turn; thats still the driver. Also, tell your wife to disengage autopilot next time she wants to accelerate past 85 miles per hour. It limits it to that speed because it’s unsafe to go faster than that with auto steer on. You know, for safety and stuff.
@omnicurious2949 7 ай бұрын
Finally a totally sensible comment on this thread! Thanks.
@DefundTheFringes 7 ай бұрын
ICE vehicles don't need to carry a lot of their power as weight, meaning the oxygen component. That's part of why gas & diesel has far higher energy density than lithium ion batteries.
@OverlandAdventureTimes 8 ай бұрын
Very well said.
@jeffreyedelson6124 7 ай бұрын
Well done review 👍
@beksinski 7 ай бұрын
This is a good analysis and I appreciate that it isn't just cynicism for the sake of cynicism like so many other videos. I can't really dispute any of these points but I will say that any conclusions should be modulated to account for the fact that this is a brand new product that will see extensive field testing and upgrades as it fully rolls out. The software lock issue you address is somewhat misleading as many these features are largely optional and can be toggled on and off. It's already possible to charge EVs with generators and oversize EVs will prompt demand for specialization. The repair issue is definitely valid and I'm interested to see a cybertruck put to a real test here.
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
I didn’t cover it in the video cause I haven’t hands on tested it yet… but I think the suspension design is going to struggle with real off-road as well. In a lot of the videos surfacing you will notice it bounces a lot… it looks like the air suspension doesn’t have the best a rebound…. A lot of Land Rover vehicles had the same struggle….
@zipeprcot 8 ай бұрын
Hubcaps are rubber composite and flexy, not brittle plastic.
@midifool99 8 ай бұрын
That's what I heard too.
@hobo1704 7 ай бұрын
Another muppet that clearly hasn't been off-road..
@jeffedmundson3934 7 ай бұрын
Finally! A truck that matches my stainless steal kitchen appliances! Wife - "Honey, you can get that new dishwasher you want and I can get the matching truck!" Deal?
@thestig007 8 ай бұрын
I can carry gas cans or install auxiliary fuel tanks to extend range on my truck. I can also just fuel up in about 5 minutes. Until EVs meet or exceed this fact, they are impractical to me.
@user-to2rf1rj5v 8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be sure sure about the steer by wire opinion until we've had someone review the Offroad modes that it comes with. Interesting takes otherwise though. I guess we'll see.
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
why hasnt tesla even showed a single offroad video of that truck!? land rover and other have amazing capabilities
@user-to2rf1rj5v 7 ай бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv Those videos are all over the internet. They took them down to Baja, on offroad courses in CA, and lots of videos of them in Alaska and New Zealand in the winter.
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
@@user-to2rf1rj5v no they did not stop lying to yourself! WTF!!!
@yootoober2009 6 ай бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv land rovers and others have been around for over 100 years, CT has less than 30 days in the wild.... give it a break!
@carholic-sz3qv 6 ай бұрын
@@yootoober2009 again stop talking nonsense!!! this justifications are just worthless! the Grenadier is also totally beand new vehicle what about that!? all those technologies from traction control to diff lock..... are also not new just like the multitude of engineers that helps develop and test those in hard conditions so stop it!
@MiniMotoAlliance 7 ай бұрын
The cybertruck will sell great and fit in right alongside the Ford Raptors that don't have a scratch on them because they never see off-road use. It's a status symbol. That's it. It'll still sell
@GoXplr 7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the Lexus bro. 🤙🤙 Just seen Nates vid ......
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
Super excited to finish that build off
@kenhiett5266 7 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen so many misunderstandings packed into a ten minute video. He's efficient at being wrong, I'll give him that.
@mikeoxlong3676 4 ай бұрын
Doesn't this thing have an optional solar pannel bed attachment? Wouldn't that be perfect for overlanding?
@mdmwelding3189 8 ай бұрын
Great video still rolling on my 2002 CUMMINS
@OutdoorAuto 8 ай бұрын
I wish I had a Cummins... I like this old 7.3 Ford (International motor) but it hates to start in the cold... and my engine heating block just fried...
@ibretus 8 ай бұрын
Hubcaps are not plastic. Steer by wire will be far superier to manual steering for offroading.
@midifool99 8 ай бұрын
That's what I heard too.
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
you are totally braainwashed not saving for you! steer by wire is not better than "manual" steering its called assisted steering not manual, its just better in terms of cost savings in manufacturing not better on the field sorry! like he said in the video you are not goin to be able to very precisely control the angle of steering.
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
bubcabs are plastic with ruber.
@christopherkettler8727 5 ай бұрын
You never cut the cord you can extend it but whether it's a charging point or a gas station you still have to come back to civilization
@chriauc2976 8 ай бұрын
Replacing my 70 serie with CT The only bad thing is lenght. I beat the crap of my 70serie in small quad trails and dead end Just want stainless body
@romari2706 7 ай бұрын
A big problem with Tesla is you lose 5% of battery charge each day without driving the car.
@swordedaffair 7 ай бұрын
Check again. Maybe years ago. Most people that own Teslas don't lose 5% of range per day (less than 1%). However, in the CyberTruck, while overlanding you might - because you could be using it to power lights and stoves, and heaters, etc.
@DaveHaynie Ай бұрын
Tesla's had a long running issue with all kinds of things remaining on unless the car goes into standby. But the car has to "decide" to go into standby, you can't force it, at least on the Teslas I've seen.
@chrisbrillon 7 ай бұрын
Great video…. Ice is for you!
@2011thekaj 6 ай бұрын
What about that guy who spent a week off roading. He used a generator and it was fine. The truck did fine .I think the power of the truck was overpowered for off roading but it did everything a normal truck did.
@steveg219 7 ай бұрын
One thing I am disappointed about is the under body is not armored. It’s great that it is flat with no pumpkin but weird to have to add protection when the whole thing is rusty it is indestructible
@tlthomas77 7 ай бұрын
I’m no fan of Tesla but they do have 12v batteries. The 48v power pack is for the motors. The 12 volt battery is for the auxiliary systems like the door locks, audio, touch screen and controlling the contactors on the 48 v system. If that battery dies you can open the frunk with a small 10 battery to gain access to it and jump it so you can open the doors, etc.
@swordedaffair 7 ай бұрын
No. The CyberTruck has a 48V low voltage system (unlike previous Teslas). The battery for the motors is something like 800V.
@tlthomas77 7 ай бұрын
That’s the internal charging voltage for battery packs. The output voltage to the motors is 48vdc.
@drgeorgeian1888 8 ай бұрын
Very well stated.
@ChristopherBong 8 ай бұрын
Great points to look at and things that can improve these cars that suit certain activities and usage
@jeffedmundson3934 7 ай бұрын
Great comment!
@jujurawks 8 ай бұрын
All Elon needs to do now is just Install Solar Power Charging stations in the middle nowhere, where people actually overland, like a random ass desert or remote forest, then you can truly do it anywhere
@OutdoorAuto 8 ай бұрын
The amount of solar panels and batteries to do that would be crazy... Battery to battery charging is very inefficient and I don't think people realize how much power it takes to charge these things.
@qum3456 8 ай бұрын
Take your own in CT.
@qum3456 8 ай бұрын
Tesla had a test with the back cover being all Solar panels which gave 1.5Kw/hr. So that’s 100 hours of charging 😆
@chrispeterson7898 8 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAuto The amount of use each station would get somewhere offroad is minuscule. They could set up 10 panels and have a fully charged megapack ready for offroaders ANYWHERE they wanted. Flown in by helicopter to some remote area and you would have an instant refueling station. However, Tesla also has the data of where every Tesla has charged and been too. Might be why we don't see this...yet.
@ryankelly5303 7 ай бұрын
When will they offer the 6 wheel Cybertruck? Can’t they put they put range extender under the rear seats?
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
with 200 miles of range? lol!!!
@hobo1704 7 ай бұрын
When will you muppets just learn to drive the already capable ICE vehicle..
@Scott-sm9nm 6 ай бұрын
8:15 ... wonder if there will be a rock crawling steering mode that makes it feel more 'manual' and way less lower variable steering ratios.
@juantamad8339 7 ай бұрын
I think the same can be said to the majority of SUVs (or wannabe SUV) that the consumers would just call it SUV even though it's obviously not.
@sliggy6834 7 ай бұрын
Ive owned a Tesla for one year and i agree with you that its not for overlanding but its less than 20% of the addressable market. Over 80% of truck owners don't use to which the purpose of a truck is built.
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
Source please ?
@aramis720 7 ай бұрын
Wait, Superchargers are mostly in rural locations. So you're saying that 340 miles of range vs say 500 miles of range for a gas truck is a deal breaker?
@davidlarue4657 8 ай бұрын
LOL! I love how he says he brings extra alternators and axels. The Cybertruck doesn't even have either of those!
@OutdoorAuto 8 ай бұрын
My point exactly… you can’t bring spare parts for what will break on it…
@davidlarue4657 8 ай бұрын
I get it! When there are only 1/20th the parts to break, it make it hard! Good point! How with auto parts stores ever keep up???? @@OutdoorAuto
@adrianjamesNEWS 6 ай бұрын
Outstanding video and a lot of great points! I think the CT just suffers from a classification issue. I would describe CT as a "rugged SUV." Tesla wants you to believe it somehow is a hauler, crawler, dragster, rallying, overlanding, endurance racer. When it's none of those things. I look at it as a stout pavement princess that serves the same demographic of people that buy a 90k dollar Suburban.
@OutdoorAuto 6 ай бұрын
Great point!
@supersingular 6 ай бұрын
340 miles at 55mph, but if you go below 40 mph the range is far greater. You'll barely spend any CT's percentage energy going on a hard trail below 20mph
@cohort075 6 ай бұрын
I want to see one of these things come to Australia, and trek out to the middle of the never never, where there isn’t any powerlines. And tow a loaded up caravan, and all the accoutrements that goes with a family holiday. It may have decent range when unloaded, but let’s see it when it’s all loaded up for a weekend trip, or a week away. And don’t forget the $16,000 dollar range extender for it, that adds another 600lbs to its weight, and rob’s half of the load space. With an initial weight (from the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration as of 2023) of between 9,000 to 10,000 pounds, with the range extender, that puts it at 9,600-10,600 pounds, before you even start loading it up for a holiday. That is a shite ton of weight. My Isuzu diesel ute (pickup) on a full tank can do 620 miles, and only takes 5min to charge it up.
@borregoayudando1481 8 ай бұрын
7:33 was she grounded from flooring it or from using autopilot?
@OutdoorAuto 8 ай бұрын
Using Rainbow road… which is Autopilot light.
@constantinnescu1564 7 ай бұрын
The solution might be a solar tent/bivuac made by solar membrane with a surface of 20-30 square yards with a power of 3-5 kw witch can charge your off roader în 2 sunny days while you acomodate în the wild , make the fire, finding water and visiting by feet your neiborghoods. Well its not perfect but it îs quite posible. Take a day or two margin from your job return becouse the weather might skip your charging time.
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
You are one of the first commentators that actually understands how much power it takes to charge these vehicles… well thought out comment 👏👍
@timinwsac 7 ай бұрын
Backcountry off roading shouldn't be much of a problem. Ya just need a trailer and a good sized generator to pull behind your cybertruck.
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
😂
@davidowens1424 6 ай бұрын
Real world cybertruck range is being reported as significantly less than advertised. Also, it's HEAVY. This truck exceeds the tow capacity of my taco ... meaning, when it get's stuck or goes down few off road vehicles are going to be able to safely assist it.
@muhammad-bin-american 6 ай бұрын
All valid points. Obviously I can't afford but good to know.
@tnguyen9266 7 ай бұрын
Truth is most people with tesla has a gas car for long distance.
@Scott-sm9nm 6 ай бұрын
8:00 yes, she was grounded when she exceeded 90 mph in AutoPilot *but* at the next exit you can pull over and put it in (P)ark and (D)rive and then it would be allowed again. Indeed there should be a few seconds of grace in there except exceeding the ability of the camera images and processing to safely be analyzed and processed left a window of vulnerability ... which Tesla may not actually be in control of due to rules and regs. Food for thought.
@philipcunio4089 7 ай бұрын
You can run out of gas also! Now, with an electric vehicle, you can use solar panels to get some power. You can ‘t dig an oil well and carry a refinery.
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video?
@bobbybishop5662 7 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAutoNo kidding , it's amazing .
@2011thekaj 6 ай бұрын
If I got a cyber truck. I would put the same suspension a Baja truck has. Then it would be a perfect off roading truck.
@Dave--FkTheDeepstate 6 ай бұрын
7:55 speed sensitive steering -- AFAIK, it should not change too much within certain speed range.
@yao62 7 ай бұрын
it looks like all your issues are solved with time or more specific preparations. the advantage of steer by wire is that you'll probably be able to control the wheel a lot better than with a shaft with potential updates! one can argue that you're an expert at shaft steering and a novice at SBW so the outcome could be link to relative skills. some people are probably already building infrastructures for portable charging spots because the CT had such a big demand! the CT will probably bring more off road "tourists" as well, CT owner that want to try out what the CT is capable of... they'll benefits and disadvantages but it's probable reality which will drive up the demand for aftermarket equipment.
@TecnamTwin 7 ай бұрын
It'll be awesome off-road - just not on ridiculously long (and completely unnecessary) overlanding excursions. And loud, polluting overland rigs are rather off-putting to the majority of the population. The Rivian R1T and CyberTruck are attracting a new kind of more conscious off-roader. That I think in and of itself is an improvement to the status quo. You forget that going slow greatly increases range and you typically can't go very fast off-road unless it's Baja style and the CyberTruck was developed specifically to be good at that as well. Hanging out 200 miles off the beaten path with a foldout solar array and a bunch of creature comforts not powered by a loud, stinky generator sounds awesome.
@hobo1704 7 ай бұрын
Conscious off-roader🤣 What, the start of the Snowflake generation off-roading..
@Stone-378 7 ай бұрын
much cleaner as well, often times these off roaders perform mechanical maintenance out there spilling chemicals.
@ApocGuy 6 ай бұрын
wait till they puncture batt pack and have four days fire pyre in dry wilderness :P @@Stone-378
@MS-ht9it 6 ай бұрын
These vehicles are too heavy for off-roading other than maintained, dirt roads. Also, these vehicles aren't carbon neutral and the environmental impact is worse than we're led to believe. Tesla drivers do a great job of patting themselves on the back but please know that kids are mining the battery materials in the Congo. Child labor and Tesla are a thing, so much that Tesla voted against sharing the results of internal reporting on the usage of child labor. We'd rather not know because knowing may interrupt the self-reward path we've created with this stupid brand.
@garretlewis4103 8 ай бұрын
Electric vehicles are intriguing. I really would like a Rivian RT1; however, they are expensive. I would take a little bit off road; however, not too much for many, if not all, of the reasons you said. I do think the Tesla Cybertruck has a face only a mother could love.
@jeffedmundson3934 7 ай бұрын
Ha HA!
@wam7484 4 ай бұрын
I guess we could believe you -- or the YT video of the CT effortlessly cruising up Hell's Gate in Moab. Something difficult for many Jeeps.
@RobertLoPinto 7 ай бұрын
Tesla can very easily push out an over the air software update to make the turning ratio behave exactly as you are expecting. They take feedback very well. That's the benefit of having a computer on wheels. Fine control over many aspects of driving are but a software update away.
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
Good god you really love Teslas… this is an Off-road channel… I think you are having a hard time understanding context… the review is in the context of a channel exclusively dedicated to off-roading. Off-roaders don’t want to drive by software… clearly you are not an off-roader and know nothing of rock crawling and driving challenging trails, weight issues, wheelbase issues, range issues, I could go in and in… but I’m not going to waste my time… if you ever want to do an off-road competition I’ll meet you in Moab or Baja you bring your Tesla and I’ll bring an Old, Dumb vehicle and we will see how your software compares… ready when you are.
@RobertLoPinto 7 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAuto I definitely know nothing about off roading. I am not a truck guy. I am a tech guy - software engineer for decades and now a tech product manager. I don't claim to know anything about offroading. That is your domain, hands down, no argument. I enjoyed your video and learned a lot. So thank you for that. That said, my comment was purely about something I do understand in my bones, software systems. Software has the ability to dynamically change and adapt to hardware. As a product manager I listen to my users and task my software engineers to listen to customers and provide solutions to feedback. It's a continuous iterative improvement process. The advantage of drive by wire is that the turning ratio can be changed programmatically. You said you didn't like that when you turned the wheel a piece of software overrides your inputs with its own decisions. All I was saying is because it is software, a new mode could be added by Tesla to allow you to disable those decisions and have the steering behave *exactly* as you expect it to react. And yes, for the record, I freaking love my Tesla Model Y and have a Cybertruck on order. That's what drove me to your channel. If you are gonna put out a video about the CT you darn well should expect to have attracted people like me! Lol. You seemed cool in your video and I appreciated hearing your point of view. Hope you are able to accept some alternate points of view from non-off road people who are intrigued by the idea of offroading that also happen to love Teslas. :-)
@Worthrhetime 8 ай бұрын
I am in line for the CT … I can’t justify buying it when I have a 2020 Tundra that doesn’t all for me .
@OutdoorAuto 8 ай бұрын
Believe me, If I had endless money I would totally buy one... not for off-road, but just for racing around... I do like a vehicle that can Go Fast.
@Worthrhetime 8 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAuto Exactly! How fun
@timmo42 6 ай бұрын
I think these will be great for a massive array of use cases… remote area work has solutions…
@Victor-vj5ds 7 ай бұрын
Range is a subjective issue, the vast majority of people offroading arnt offroading more than a day, the mountain trails are a 20 mile drive from where i live, if range is that much of a concern you can take a 240v generator and a few gallons of gas in the bed.
@Timothyleepowers 7 ай бұрын
Surprised someone hasn’t started like an Airbnb type business for EV charging. Technically you should be able to charge anywhere where there’s power. So any gas station any house… etc.
@jaym1207 8 ай бұрын
Hmm interesting - a review without any testing whatsoever.
@user-ez1kl7ew1w 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the power cord looks a lot like a leash. You must have an oil refinery in your garage that allows you to make your own gasoline.
@1flash3571 8 ай бұрын
Uhh...who has an oil refinery in their garage????? Someone could come up with a solar panel recharge system for the Tesla Cybertruck and they can cut the cord for offroad....
@simplyyourtube 8 ай бұрын
Agree some insults go both ways and that's the problem loyalists don't understand.
@hi9580 8 ай бұрын
You can install a secondary tank or carry a portable 200 liter fuel tank (similar size to 50kWh range extender) and get 3000km of range. Even with 300 kWh ($30-40k) of batteries you will only get 1000km (being optimistic).
@ZenEndurance 6 ай бұрын
Bicycles. Cheap. Easy to work on. 20 miles to the bagel. 🤑
@EM-cm3fv 3 ай бұрын
Cope
@jaimeduncan6167 7 ай бұрын
I was expecting actual data or the fact that does not include a spare tire. Instead, you told me why it does not work for you or for extreme offroad. It was a nice perspective, and I understand that the title is designed to entice by any means necessary. For me going offroad is not that extreme, but at the saying goes different strokes. The lack of offroad tests makes me believe that the Crbertruck will be less viable than the Rivian or a total animal (if they are reserving the test for volume production)
@OutdoorAuto 7 ай бұрын
Yeah my angle has to do with the fact that my entire channel is an Off-road channel... so if you understand this thing called "context" ... as in a review from a channel that talks and teaches people how to start and do advanced off-roading.... it kind makes sense... and actually isn't even clickbait.... this is what this channel covers... for years.
@unxusr 6 ай бұрын
@@OutdoorAutoit is totally a clickbait. Bull crapping on the thing that is totally new, and you have no idea how it will turn out. Keep your “teachings” on what you know.
@jonjosenna5581 8 ай бұрын
i think when the Ford model T came out. there were probably similar hang ups. Fossil fuel vehicles have problems EV vehicles also have problems, just different ones. I think EV will continue to get better and better, with time.
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
bullsshit!!!!! we have passed that time! ICE have literaly done everything to make the life of EV as simple as possible! with ICE and oil we were able to literaly extraxt raw materials, build roads, entire cities, bridges, the grid and powerstation, agriculture....... with an ICE you have no issues with range.
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
EVs are like steam locomotives with constant need of coal or water while diesel locomotives can literaly cross an entire country on its fuel reserve non stop. aircrafts are does 20h direct flight new york to sydney..... batteries will never equal fuel.
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
there are still 40 years+ old ICE that are still on roads today around the world been used in very harsch environments all day long, your EV will never do that kind of job.
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