Test av Lexus RZ 450e: Komfortvinner med svakheter

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Күн бұрын

Lexus RZ 450e leverer førsteklasses komfort, men vi noterte et par tydelige sprekker i en solid premium-opplevelse i løpet av denne testen.
Man kan drømme seg litt bort i alt velbehaget den største av Lexus´ to elbilmodeller kan levere. Det eneste som mangler i kupeen, av typiske komfortdetaljer, er egentlig massasje i setene.
Det er vrient å komme på en bil som føles mer komfortabel blant dagens SUV-er og crossovere av samme størrelse.
Det er først når vi kommer til de høyst essensielle egenskapene rekkevidde og lading at RZ 450e ikke lever opp til prislappen.
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@RF-it7uv
@RF-it7uv 10 күн бұрын
I recently dumped my leased 2021 Tesla Model Y “long range” for the Lexus RZ 450e, after driving 10 other EVs. Lexus discounted this heavily so it ended up being a $43,000 car. I sincerely believe it’s the best EV you can buy today. My RZ 450e has the latest Lexus software update and I am getting 275-400 miles of range at 4.2-5.5 miles/kWh efficiency - far better efficiency than my Model Y, especially in city driving. Don’t listen to the skeptics or critics who tested pre-production or prototype versions with 21 inch wheels and complain about range. But first let me explain why I dumped the Tesla. Over 30,000 miles, the AC on the Tesla failed, then the 12V battery failed without warning, stranding me for 2 weeks (and $1700 in car rental bills) while Tesla dithered around with replacing the battery. The powered frunk where the battery is located failed to open because the Tesla factory had failed to wire it properly, so they had to rig it to open it. Then the trunk strut failed which was traced to a faulty wiring harness. If I had bought it, instead of leasing it, and had these failures happened after 50,000 miles, I would have been out thousands of dollars, erasing any fuel savings. BTW, the Tesla odometer was also way off, which seemed like a gimmick/scam to inflate range. Speaking of range, the Model Y’s efficiency was awful in city driving; with 20 inch wheels, I rarely cracked 160 miles on a full charge in stop and go traffic due to aggressive regen which meant keeping the throttle pressed to keep the heavy beast moving. In DC winters, 110 miles was the best it could do, despite having a heat pump 😝 So ​I switched to the Lexus RZ 450e after test-driving the Cadillac Lyriq, Hyundai Ionia 5, Kia EV6, Ford Mach-e, Nissan Ariya, VW ID4, Chevrolet Blazer, Genesis GV60, and Toyota BZ4X and Subaru Solterra. I chose the RZ 450e with 18 inch wheels, which with latest software update unlocks more range and efficiency, and it was the best decision ever. As I noted above, disregard the skeptics / critics who tested pre-production or early production vehicles with old software. With latest software updates, the range and efficiency of the RZ 450e is amazing. 95% of my driving is in the city (Washington DC) at speeds below 35 MPH and I average well over 4.5 miles/kWh - vs 3.0 miles/kWh for my Model Y “long range” in similar conditions. On a recent drive, I got 7.2 miles/kWh. 18 inch wheels (NOT the optional 21 inch wheels) and using regen at lowest setting is key to getting maximum efficiency because Lexus designed an adaptive automatic regen braking system that recognizes when the car needs to slow down (for curves or stopped traffic) and blends in appropriate regen and friction braking as needed to simulate a true one pedal driving experience. The RZ hits 0-60 in 4.6 seconds. Its ride quality, powertrain refinement, quietness and sound system all blow the Tesla Model Y away. It glides over bumps and potholes like a Mercedes S Class /EQE/EQS or a Rolls Royce, while my Model Y crashed over them like it had no shock absorbers. The RZ has a light steering which makes navigating around potholes a breeze (steering tightens up when switched into Sport mode). The latest Lexus infotainment is snappy - having a large screen in front of you to display vital info as well as a heads up display are HUGE pluses over the Model Y. There’s another large screen that supports wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, so that’s another huge plus alongside beautiful physical controls for temperature setting. Lexus nailed the perfect balance of physical and onscreen controls - not having to go though the screen for controlling mirrors, lights and wipers definitely enhances safety. The two tone soft touch surfaces elevate the driving experience - you truly feel like you are in a luxury EV, unlike the somber interior of the Tesla. The Lexus lets you fine tune your efficiency to your driving style via Normal/Eco/Range settings, which once you sign in, it remembers your preferred settings. The radiant heat feature is genius - feels like a warm blanket on your legs. Safety features like Safe Exit Assist prevent doors from opening if a car or cyclist is approaching (can be overridden). There are so many thoughtful touches and safety features that make Tesla looks pretty crude and ancient - almost Iike an unfinished product. What about road trips? I took one from Washington, DC to NYC - something I’ve done in my Model Y previously - the RZ 450e averaged 4.2 miles/kWh at highway speeds with AC on in 90 degree temps. Fast charged at Tesla Superchargers to 100% (since Lexus says that’s fine to do) in under 40 minutes and arrived in NYC super refreshed due to cooled seats, excellent auto steer, superior ride comfort and overall refinement vs the Model Y. In NYC’s stop and go traffic, the RZ450e is averaging 5+ miles/kWh - Lexus has applied its experience optimizing for city driving efficiency to the RZ 450e. I even camped two nights in the RZ 450e, just like I did in the Model Y, and it makes an excellent camping vehicle. The folding memory foam mattress that I had ordered for the Model Y fits perfectly in the RZ 450e! If you have a family, they would appreciate the massive rear passenger area, with flat floor, easy ingress/egress, and heated rear seats with controls in the back (unlike Tesla Model Y). Lexus also offers 30 days of a Lexus ICE or hybrid loaner for longer road trips, but if you live on the coasts, or in a region with a high density of public fast chargers , you will likely never need to opt for the loaner. As for lack of a frunk, I don’t miss it. The RZ has plenty of space in the sub trunk for cables, plus features like digital rear view mirror, homelink garage door opener, blind spot alert lights and beeps, 360 panoramic camera views, auto park and ventilated / cooled seats more than make up for lack of frunk! Unlike Tesla, the controls for the hood and charge port are manual which is a better design should the 12V battery fail. The 12V battery is easily accessible in the RZ 450e and Lexus offers free scheduled maintenance at regular intervals to ensure you are not stranded with a failing 12V battery. Oh, and unlike Tesla, legendary Lexus service and roadside assistance is just a phone call away - there’s always someone who answers the phone should you have a question. Lexus even delivered the vehicle to my home and the sales rep followed up multiple times in subsequent weeks to check in on my experience. With Tesla, it took them nearly 2 years and multiple email reminders to send me the correct paperwork to get my car registered in DC. Yep, I drove around with expired temp tags for almost two years. No wonder Tesla sales growth has slumped! Lexus has now released a RZ 300e with even more range, so definitely recommend checking that out. The RZ 300e Surprises With 125 MPGe EPA Rating that Beats Tesla Model Y. The Toyota BZ4X is another good option - a little shorter than the RZ, it sits higher than a Tesla Model 3, but rides much better, has more room in the back, and I think it also looks more interesting and sharper. Similar driving dynamics as the RZ, the BZ4X leases for under $200/month and is hands down a much better buy than the Model 3 or Y.
@HansOleBenonisen
@HansOleBenonisen 4 ай бұрын
Kjipt, tror Toyota/Lexus bør se til Hyundai/Kia sin batteri/ladehastighet/el-arkitektur for å kunne gi bilen en verdig ladehastighet.
@Elbilforeningen
@Elbilforeningen 4 ай бұрын
Mye tyder på det. Vår vurdering er at RZ 450e har veldig mye bra å by på, men at det svikter litt på ladefart. Om den nødvendige forvarmingen hadde kommet på plass, ville det også dempet mye av rekkeviddediskusjonen.
@HansOleBenonisen
@HansOleBenonisen 4 ай бұрын
@@Elbilforeningen resten av bilen ser virkelig ok ut og hadde vært blant favorittene nå som vi bytter ut vår elbil etter kjørte ca 200K i inn og utland. Ladehastighet er ett av de viktigste erfaringene som vi tar med oss når vi prioriterer mellom svært mange interessante modeller. Hadde noen laget "Ioniq 6" som stv ville det ha vært veldig interessant, kombinert med Lexus sin kvalitet og komfort. Men den bilen finnes dessverre fortsatt ikke.
@RF-it7uv
@RF-it7uv 10 күн бұрын
@@Elbilforeningen I recently dumped my leased 2021 Tesla Model Y “long range” for the Lexus RZ 450e, after driving 10 other EVs. Lexus discounted this heavily so it ended up being a $43,000 car. I sincerely believe it’s the best EV you can buy today. My RZ 450e has the latest Lexus software update and I am getting 275-400 miles of range at 4.2-5.5 miles/kWh efficiency - far better efficiency than my Model Y, especially in city driving. Don’t listen to the skeptics or critics who tested pre-production or prototype versions with 21 inch wheels and complain about range. But first let me explain why I dumped the Tesla. Over 30,000 miles, the AC on the Tesla failed, then the 12V battery failed without warning, stranding me for 2 weeks (and $1700 in car rental bills) while Tesla dithered around with replacing the battery. The powered frunk where the battery is located failed to open because the Tesla factory had failed to wire it properly, so they had to rig it to open it. Then the trunk strut failed which was traced to a faulty wiring harness. If I had bought it, instead of leasing it, and had these failures happened after 50,000 miles, I would have been out thousands of dollars, erasing any fuel savings. BTW, the Tesla odometer was also way off, which seemed like a gimmick/scam to inflate range. Speaking of range, the Model Y’s efficiency was awful in city driving; with 20 inch wheels, I rarely cracked 160 miles on a full charge in stop and go traffic due to aggressive regen which meant keeping the throttle pressed to keep the heavy beast moving. In DC winters, 110 miles was the best it could do, despite having a heat pump 😝 So ​I switched to the Lexus RZ 450e after test-driving the Cadillac Lyriq, Hyundai Ionia 5, Kia EV6, Ford Mach-e, Nissan Ariya, VW ID4, Chevrolet Blazer, Genesis GV60, and Toyota BZ4X and Subaru Solterra. I chose the RZ 450e with 18 inch wheels, which with latest software update unlocks more range and efficiency, and it was the best decision ever. As I noted above, disregard the skeptics / critics who tested pre-production or early production vehicles with old software. With latest software updates, the range and efficiency of the RZ 450e is amazing. 95% of my driving is in the city (Washington DC) at speeds below 35 MPH and I average well over 4.5 miles/kWh - vs 3.0 miles/kWh for my Model Y “long range” in similar conditions. On a recent drive, I got 7.2 miles/kWh. 18 inch wheels (NOT the optional 21 inch wheels) and using regen at lowest setting is key to getting maximum efficiency because Lexus designed an adaptive automatic regen braking system that recognizes when the car needs to slow down (for curves or stopped traffic) and blends in appropriate regen and friction braking as needed to simulate a true one pedal driving experience. The RZ hits 0-60 in 4.6 seconds. Its ride quality, powertrain refinement, quietness and sound system all blow the Tesla Model Y away. It glides over bumps and potholes like a Mercedes S Class /EQE/EQS or a Rolls Royce, while my Model Y crashed over them like it had no shock absorbers. The RZ has a light steering which makes navigating around potholes a breeze (steering tightens up when switched into Sport mode). The latest Lexus infotainment is snappy - having a large screen in front of you to display vital info as well as a heads up display are HUGE pluses over the Model Y. There’s another large screen that supports wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, so that’s another huge plus alongside beautiful physical controls for temperature setting. Lexus nailed the perfect balance of physical and onscreen controls - not having to go though the screen for controlling mirrors, lights and wipers definitely enhances safety. The two tone soft touch surfaces elevate the driving experience - you truly feel like you are in a luxury EV, unlike the somber interior of the Tesla. The Lexus lets you fine tune your efficiency to your driving style via Normal/Eco/Range settings, which once you sign in, it remembers your preferred settings. The radiant heat feature is genius - feels like a warm blanket on your legs. Safety features like Safe Exit Assist prevent doors from opening if a car or cyclist is approaching (can be overridden). There are so many thoughtful touches and safety features that make Tesla looks pretty crude and ancient - almost Iike an unfinished product. What about road trips? I took one from Washington, DC to NYC - something I’ve done in my Model Y previously - the RZ 450e averaged 4.2 miles/kWh at highway speeds with AC on in 90 degree temps. Fast charged at Tesla Superchargers to 100% (since Lexus says that’s fine to do) in under 40 minutes and arrived in NYC super refreshed due to cooled seats, excellent auto steer, superior ride comfort and overall refinement vs the Model Y. In NYC’s stop and go traffic, the RZ450e is averaging 5+ miles/kWh - Lexus has applied its experience optimizing for city driving efficiency to the RZ 450e. I even camped two nights in the RZ 450e, just like I did in the Model Y, and it makes an excellent camping vehicle. The folding memory foam mattress that I had ordered for the Model Y fits perfectly in the RZ 450e! If you have a family, they would appreciate the massive rear passenger area, with flat floor, easy ingress/egress, and heated rear seats with controls in the back (unlike Tesla Model Y). Lexus also offers 30 days of a Lexus ICE or hybrid loaner for longer road trips, but if you live on the coasts, or in a region with a high density of public fast chargers , you will likely never need to opt for the loaner. As for lack of a frunk, I don’t miss it. The RZ has plenty of space in the sub trunk for cables, plus features like digital rear view mirror, homelink garage door opener, blind spot alert lights and beeps, 360 panoramic camera views, auto park and ventilated / cooled seats more than make up for lack of frunk! Unlike Tesla, the controls for the hood and charge port are manual which is a better design should the 12V battery fail. The 12V battery is easily accessible in the RZ 450e and Lexus offers free scheduled maintenance at regular intervals to ensure you are not stranded with a failing 12V battery. Oh, and unlike Tesla, legendary Lexus service and roadside assistance is just a phone call away - there’s always someone who answers the phone should you have a question. Lexus even delivered the vehicle to my home and the sales rep followed up multiple times in subsequent weeks to check in on my experience. With Tesla, it took them nearly 2 years and multiple email reminders to send me the correct paperwork to get my car registered in DC. Yep, I drove around with expired temp tags for almost two years. No wonder Tesla sales growth has slumped! Lexus has now released a RZ 300e with even more range, so definitely recommend checking that out. The RZ 300e Surprises With 125 MPGe EPA Rating that Beats Tesla Model Y. The Toyota BZ4X is another good option - a little shorter than the RZ, it sits higher than a Tesla Model 3, but rides much better, has more room in the back, and I think it also looks more interesting and sharper. Similar driving dynamics as the RZ, the BZ4X leases for under $200/month and is hands down a much better buy than the Model 3 or Y.
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