I didn’t forget the powerjack, I just didn’t deem it important enough to mention in the video. And yes I know you can weapon switch mid-air with the thruster, but I was trying to make it sync up with what I was saying.

I'm a pyro main watching this video so I can kill spies better

The case of pyro vs. spy, pyro was created to hunt spies in every aspect, the matchup most of the time isn't even close to being fair. I love that it's basically predator vs. prey. I do love that this video stresses that you don't necessarily have to take out the pyro, that's what your team is for, just don't get hunted.

As a pyro main, this has made me infinitely more scared of spies knowing how to not walk directly backward from my flames

Greatest spy guides on planet and thank you for always reminding us that "SPY HAS A GUN"

Things not mentioned: If you backstab someone with a Kunai, you get instantly extinguished. Powerjack makes Pyros run faster, I think possibly slightly faster than you. It can make backstabbing a pyro sprinting from spawn to the objective way more annoying and could help them catch up to you. Pyros can rocket jump to an extent using Scotch Shot and Detonator, especially that 2nd one.

I love how pyro is portrayed here as an absolute menace

Pyros can also use detonator and scort shot to close distance meaning you can have harder time escaping them, but also if you can predict their jump, you can actually move into them so they jump over you. Also my man forgor the powerjack 💀

one thing you maybe should have covered was the fact that the detonator on a skilled pyro is nearly a guarantee that you’ll never make it out alive, because they can outright surpass you in speed with detonator jumps.

I feel like Powerjack should have been mentioned since it can help pyros close the distance and thus place the spy back in the Danger Zone.

Doom intro = EPIK

I like how every spy main is super confident against other classes, but as soon as a pyro spawns they start panicking

Dragon's Fury may not be good at spychecking but 2 consecutive shots (which second shot becomes much easier after the first one) is enough to kill the spy

Pyro Main going to drop two tips here: 1. The Powerjack. It’s rarely taken out to chase Spies as most Pyros are trying to keep you on fire. If you do die to one after being discovered though, then make a mental note that they will be faster than you but limited to melee range. 2. Observe your running path. Some Pyros are very good with flares, and running straight to a health pack makes leading the shot easy to gauge. If you die to flares while doing step 2, then take note that the Pyro has good aim for your next encounters. Have fun and don’t get caught~ 🔥

Something i really wish you had talked aboht, is dealing with people who've raged switched to pyro after you've killed them one too many times. Its definitely a very different scenario, as they will spy check every teammate, hunt you to the ends of the earth, and spy check at more random and spratic times.

in terms of movement, pyro can also flare jump. detonator is the best option for that so people should be aware of pyros who are skilled enough to pull it off

10:13 lost opportunity to say that the strategy of turning and running away can "backfire"

I love how simply you explain everything. It's very helpful

The main issue is not the Dragon's Fury itself, but the fact that a Pyro using it probably has decent accuracy compared to the average Pyro player.

I think it's also good to note that if a pyro is being too much of a pybro, and constantly spy-checking, they will easily become distracted with reflecting rockets, especially with crits. Uber pushes will also keep a pyro fully distracted, cloak and dagger is really fantastic for waiting for these moments and picking off targets the enemy pyro isn't around. If another spy is on the same team as you, and you see him making a play, you can use that to your advantage as enemies get hyper-focused onto a spy they found and will never check their back for a second spy. You gotta let the plays develop instead of forcing them.

Editing was top notch here, the transitions were really stylish too. Your videos are getting better and better man, I can tell your SFM skills are improving, great work

6:20 A little elaboration for anyone who needs it, an example is to move right but once you cloaked go left, it's better than not making the direction shown because they might choose the path you did

A couple important things to have included in this video: 1: The powerjack is a weapon that gives pyro faster movement speed, making it easier to catch up with the spy and if you're in a casual server you'll also likely eat a random crit to the back of the head 2: the scorch shot, on direct hit, can lock a player in place and does mini crits to buring players. Since you're a spy booking it from a pyro you're likely already on fire so you'll eat a lot of damage on top of being basically locked in place

3:42 oh hey it's me! Thanks for the help X3 For real though, it's really fun to hear your opponents in a game like this talk about how to beat you, keeps you on your toes!

12:39 Detonator can also help pyro to close distance with you.

As a pyro main, I’d like to mention that the dead ringer is very noticable, and it will NOT save you from a good pyro.

As usual, you deliver excellence Jonto! As a Doom fan, I adore this video's particular style, and is probably my new favorite in the Spy Psychology series. Also, caught that brief moment of The Healer Stalks, that was a nice touch.

12:42 It should be noted that the self explosion radius of the Detonator and the surface radius of the Scorch Shot share the same amount of range (110 Hu according to the TF Wiki) - but in particular the Detonator can theoretically have slightly longer range due to its ability to connect higher in the air.

This video feels like one of those safety videos that you’re told to watch before doing something dangerous

The doom intro for Pyro gave me chills, as if I was a spy facing off against 3 Combo Pyros with nothing but a cloak revolver, a kunai and stock watch. Amazing feeling

_"Running away is a viable strategy."_ -Xenoblade Chronicles tutorial

i play both of the pyro vs spy dynamic, its always so fun when you notice things you learned on one class benefitting your play in the other class.

I love how so many Pyros when they catch a Spy think it’s a free kill, but then they realize that they just ran into your entire team ALSO SPY HAS A GUN

Little correction: Fire particles do actually accelerate with your movement, that's pretty much why the exploits of getting stuck as pyro then just using the detonator to have an effectively infinite range flamethrower.

as a pyro main i used this video to help me track spies more easily

I noticed that basically all the pyros in the end clip you killed were mindless wm1-ers. More skilled pyros won't do that, and some of us have good enough tracking to make trickstabs nearly impossible without some lucky hitreg, though we do slip up occasionally. Ive done some spy myself, and when dealing with a more skilled pyro patrolling, cloak and dagger+spycicle is key. Some of us(such as myself) don't always constantly flamespray and instead rely on just spotting a disguised spy via behavior alone, so assume your disguise kit is useless and you won't hear us coming, hence cloak and dagger. When detected, first priority is BREAK LINE OF SIGHT. After that, thats when I trigger my spycicle. If attempting to kill a more advanced pyro, either catch them off guard at range, or wait for a burst of noise from elsewhere nearby(to mask your decloak) and the pyro being distracted(say, busy playing mind-games with a soldier) and then try to go in for the stab. That's my input as a pyro main with some experience in other classes. Ngl i kinda feel bad for spies sometimes, what with how hard damn near everything screws you guys over.

I love just how much of a THREAT you make the pyro in every video. As a pybro main, makes me feel validated.

Hey Jontohil! I'm a recent subscriber that, admittedly, came into the channel and the Spy Psychology series as a Pyro main looking to better deal with Spies. But after I applied the things I learned from the series I've made Spy one of my mains! Your videos have really helped me learn the basics for the class and has even taught me something about Pyro! (E.g. the flame particles relative to Pyro's speed). If you have any advice on inifiltrating Engie nests I would love to hear it! [Though I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the Homewrecker is gonna be covered] All in all, thanks for making these wonderful videos and I look forward to seeing more of the series and learning new ways to mess with people

5:17 Jontohil: when running face away from the pyro Backburner:

YESSS. I’ve just been getting into playing spy again after temporarily maining other classes and pyros have become such a huge problem for me I’m so glad you made this video. Also I’m glad to see the series is back.

Ayo, you know it's a good night when Jon uploads at 5am in the morning, lol. I'll be honest, my main strategy has been to just wait till they're distracted, disguise as a Medic, target them. Some Pyros are a menace in a casual lobbies. And when a Pyro wants to WM1, they're rarely suspicious of the Medic that's magically behind them. I know it's not gonna work all the time, it's just my go-to. Disguising as Medic tends to be really good in general though. Even if players are suspicious of your Medic disguise, in the heat of the moment they're just not going to notice unless you bump into them. Heck I've had a Scout use his Mad Milk on me, on my Medic disguise, because I was on fire and basically gave me the backstab. I'm proud of that moment.

It's so amazing how even after so many years such a great content is made for this game. Keep going, after your vids and 20hours of playing spy I'm finally able to hit top once in a while and enjoy my spy gameplay.

Great video. The visual/audio gags land well, and the info is concise and easy to understand.

ive been recommending your videos to anyone who does bad in spy ingame or asks for tips, also when they ask in discord or whatever. theyre the most entertaining videos and the fact you talk about so much more than just stats or other basic info means even i can learn after so many years of playing by applying your game sense to mine. keep doing what youre doing, youre the best spy educational channel i know

13:15 You should've mentioned that there is a noticeable green drip effect when doused that I'm pretty sure makes you blink and every other enemy can also set you ablaze which makes you no longer effective

"THE RAGE FILLS YOUR BODY" "THE PYROS EVEN FEAR YOU NOW"

I've got to thank you Jon, I'm trying really hard to play Spy myself, and your videos are helping me a lot. Keep up the great work, and I can't wait until the next Spy Psychology video!

Man, as a Pyro main, the bit that kicked off the "Predicting Them" segment seriously got me. I feel like that's the entire Pyro vs. Spy matchup in a nutshell, Pyro definitely doesn't always require you to outsmart your enemies like Spy does. Still totally gonna at least *try* though, can't hurt to add prediction and trickery to my game plan especially since Pyro also thrives on ambush kills. At the end of the day, maybe we're not so different after all... 🔥

I’ll be honest, I’m just loving how every video can involve the iconic “SPY HAS A GUN!”

Idk, maybe it already was mentioned in some video, but I think it would be really cool to make a spy movement video, cause I think it's the most important and hard part in playing spy. Would be cool to see your guide about this part of gameplay.

The amount of effort put into these videos honestly amazes me. For someone that has just picked up the game like me and fell in love with playing spy, this is just beyond perfect as you also explain some basic stuff about the game that is really important.

Grand job as always. I’ll certainly be implementing these tactics into my Future Spy Play.

11:10 = “DEATH ZOOONE”

After watching about 100+ videos on TF2 on KZfaq, this is the only one that's mentioned that walking backwards is slower than walking forwards.

These videos are so high quality in production, keep it up!

Intensely Informative and Vibey Greatwork Great Man

Notes for if you do run into a Mannmelter Pyro: They do not need to set you on fire to use their crits. And if your team has a few pyros, chances are this pyro is loaded with at least 5 reserve crits if they're competent. More experienced Thermal Thruster pyros tend to switch weapons before landing, yes, you can do that, and it allows the pyro to prepare to deal damage before landing, which is very critical in a chase.

9:33 this is hilarious

The quality of your videos is just incredible, what a grest work!!🎉🎉

I knew this was gonna be awesome, but GAHD DAYUM That DooM intro was so epik. It exceeded almost all my expectations, showing that you really know how to wow your audience. Such an informative video in an awesome bad ass format just can't be compared to most, I really love all of your videos, thanks for this one❤

Fail to mention the stunlock on the Scorch Shot. And the rather big hitbox

I’m a pyro main watching this video because I want to branch out and get better at spy

Yo this video was very good, I liked the editing Can't wait for the video about the homewrecker

Intro is fire, like your sound producer. Hope (s)he gets a raise.

9:48 based enforcer user

5:20 powerjack and detnator:allow us to introduce ourselves like i actually tried to run until he pulled out the powerjack and smacked me with it the second a pyro does that there is no escaping he jus switch gets closer the back to flame thrower to make sure you can get rid of the fire

always loved this game, almost have 2k hours. spy is one of my favorite classes. i love stealth in games and doing it in a multiplayer game is a lot of fun. it's crazy how you can disguise as an enemy, and convince the enemy that you are one of them based off of your movement, positioning, where you're looking, etc. Made me think "hey I bet there's someone who makes like 'spy psychology' vids on youtube...." since there is definitely a psychological game that spies have to play to convince the enemy that they are one of them now today I pop that into youtube and your channel floods my results. that's awesome. I"m looking forward to watching these and improving my spy gameplay

Pyro main here, I love your video, and how you're not portraying Pyro like an absolute braindead moron like many others do nor like "GG EZ kills". My best advice for Spies trying to fight Pyros and live: if he's alone and you're a little far away, the stock revolver 3 shots a full health Pyro from a decent distance where the shotgun doesn't do a lot, but if he's decent and noticed you he will most probably start juking. The Ambassador is great if you can land one headshot, but otherwise it's really risky to get close to him. Besides that, a Pyro that is distracted or fighting someone else will be just as easy to backstab as any other class, just mind the potential chaos surrounding the fighters... I think the most important thing to note for all of us is that while we have different skill levels, the ability to adapt to one of us changing their playstyle is the most vital and game-changing skill for anyone to have (a Pyro who killed you before who shows the same patterns after you killed him will become much easier to kill than a player as any other class who is aware about you and may try to adapt their playstyle to catch you off-guard while you were having fun bullying the inexperienced Pyro). With that said, I wish everyone reading this a fun while playing TF2 and if we ever meet that I hope we can have some interesting fights.

I HAD A GUN ALL THIS TIME???

As a new tf2 player, this series is super helpful!

Thanks man, I’d been waiting a solid 10 minutes for this one

He's at it again with another amazing video, love your content jon!

why does the pyro icon at 0:01 kinda look like a toilet

This guy is basically uncle dane but with spy.

Im so glad you made a new video keep up the good work bro

This Video was very well done. I liked it a lot :)

Yes

that intro did not need to go so hard and yet here we are. amazing vid as always

You deserve more subs! Keep it up!

That was a pretty insane intro 😲 Great job!

thoughts on making a gun guide? love your videos man defiantly helped me get better and a good refresher every once in a while when i get too used to sprinting down the middle of every map keep it up man

Wow, that first minute in a half was really cool. Who could've known that Spy had a gun?

this is the best youtube intro I've ever seen 100/10 like the intro should be like a whole movie

God your editing is god tier. Be proud of your videos man, they’re art.

This channel is the best spy guide and tutorial for new players and existing players. For me it's easier to understand by showing images and graphics + straight to the point.

Great video again. Loving it

Editing and production is amazing

love the edit work keep it up

the editing and 3d animation was so amazing, looked so close to doom eternal! extremely amazing content for real for real!

I pressed like not after the video, but after the intro to that video. I frickin love how creative this guy is.

This is your best video no doubt,my 2 favorites classes.Even though I'm a pyro main I like to play spy a lot as my second

i dont even need help learning spy anymore, ur videos are just so well made and fun to watch that i never wanna miss a single one

I just started watching your content and it's so good and useful, especially considering my second highest playtime is as spy. Could you please do a video on the different spy revolvers and situations they're useful in?

Glad to see your back at it

The production quality on this is insane!

I still can't believe my little bro managed to make it inside this Spy Psychology video!

God you make everything look so damn cool. I love it.

As a pyro main, the way you portray spy-checking pyros is surprisingly accurate to a pyro main's mindset when spy-checking.

You didn't have to go this hard with the video but you did anyway and I love it

Bro makes spy sound so epic to play it genuinely convinced me to play spy and actually pop of duo to the Spy Psychology series , good job mate.