This 'Toofty' method you mention sounds pretty good, might have to try it

As an engineer main, I can proudly say Gunslinger

and the winner is >Eureka effect

At first I though he was doing the accent because "heHe engineer is texan lol" but then I remembered Zesty is Texan. Good on you man, as a fellow Texan, I say bring out the accent more often.

Boy, he be speaking Texan

As a engineer main i can proudly say: Eureka effect

Jag: Better offense wrench (for those who don't want to use Gunslinger) Stock: Better defense Wrench This is what I have pulled from this video

Engie's main problem is his slow setup speed so the fact that the jag helps so much with that honestly just makes it feel so nice to use

Obviously The Machete is the best. Duh

Jag and Rescue Ranger have more synergy with each other. If you're gonna change your wrench to Jag, you might as well change the entire loadout.

I was really expecting "The Wrench that Jag'd Me" with that Austin Powers bit.

4:19 *he really has lost it*

Say it with me Everyone “The southern hospitality”

"I will be playing 50 full rounds of Badwater" I felt that grind in my soul.

Do next: Sniper rifle vs the hitman heatmaker

I play what I call “support engiee” where the goal is help other engines. The set is rescue ranger, gunslinger, and wrangler. Each are very important. Ranger allows you to save a teammates turret from a safe place. I run gunslinger because I don’t focus on my own sentry and extra health is nice. The wrangler allows you to annoy anyone trying to poke at a fellow turret from a far. What do you guys think of this setup? I like helping newer engineers do well. (I don’t play engineer much because I’m a medic main.)

Bro, he even sounds texan, this man has transcended the engineer character to another level

Me: *Sees thumbnail* Also me: "Ah, a fellow 'Spy vs. Spy' fan I see"

"Nothing like the highlander defense meta, eh boys?" Edit: for me personally i use the jag on defense only during set up to get buildings up faster, then switch to stock or SH. On offense i tend to stick with the EE for easy teleporter placement

i have this motto i made. “going up with the jag, going down with stock”

My math major side really loved the damage over time integral bit

Engineer TF2s rating of Zesty’s wrench review: engineer tf2 approves of this message

The wrench is superior because look at how the engineer holds the jag.... his left hand is so close to being LITERALLY PIERCED BY THE JAG

Wrench: Better for focusing on Sentry Jag: Better for focusing on Dispenser Eureka: Better for focusing on Teleporters Is that about right?

The Southern Hospitality is the best

"WHY DO WE HAVE 4 ENGINEERS!?!?"

Creating a Patreon is infinitely better than promoting Raid: Shadow Legends and saying some pathetic and fake trash about how "good" it is

*laughs in eureka effect*

As someone who wasted half of his life playing video game as a engineer I can make a very short conclusion. There is no such a thing as "better weapon" but there is a term "useless weapon". All weapons are situational and based on gamestyle and the only weapon you never want to use is pomson 6000, there is no such a situation in which you would pick pomson and Its the only "useless weapon" on engineer

I’m more amused on how zesty was just flat out bullied by two spies at 6:34

Jesus christ, this was well formatted. Great video!

I would say that the main reason people like Dane and B4nny advertise the Jag is because of two reasons: 1. The reason Dane prefers it and the reason I think your study found a preference with the default wrench is because the healing downside is negated by using the Rescue Ranger, Wrangler, or Short Circuit. They heal or prevent damage from the Sentry, thus relegating the job of the Jag to upgrading. Mind you, those three weapons are pretty overpowered and will probably get nerfed into the ground in the next ten years(next patch). 2. Gamemode can change the effectiveness of a weapon. Being able to build up a level 3 sentry ASAP is incredibly important in 5 CP(sixes). In Highlander, it's the ability to be able to move with your team and recover from losses. That's why the Jag is mostly better in competitive, although the stock wrench isn't much worse and should be swapped out once you level up your buildings(if you can). The downsides that exist due to the ban of all of Engineer's secondaries and the Rescue Ranger in sixes are less important than just getting a Sentry up and shooting. A third point is that you should have differentiated between attacking and defending so we could see which is superior there. Maybe the Jag was a lot better on offense but you got less points with it due to the nature of the class. Overall, still a good video there's just a lot of nuance with the wrenches when compared to the other weapons you've covered.

I think we all know the machete is the true god

Alternative title: young Tommy Lee Jones discusses effective tool options

Whenever I want to use the stock wrench, I just use the Southern Hospitality. The bleed effect means if I hit a spy or a flanking class, they’ll probably die, and since I hardly come up against a Pyro, I find the measly vulnerability to be negligible.

Wrench VS Jag discussions boil down to a cycle. There really isn’t a concrete winner because, every point you have for one, there’s a counter for it, and there’s a counter for that, and so on.

I personally really like using the stock since it can deal with an increasing pesky spy problem I tend to get when I play engineer probably due to my loadout hehe.

I can't be the only one to feel nostalgia when the Austin Powers theme came on

The necro smasher: yo guys uhhh... yea.... *i won*

Loved the Austin Powers reference that caught me off guard.

It's close between them and hard to put into numbers, but I think the reason why the Jag is generally preferred is because being able to build and upgrade buildings faster comes into play more often than an increased repair rate. If your building is only taking chip damage, the difference in repair rate is irrelevant (both wrenches will still repair that building in one hit) and the only factor is the faster upgrade speed. If your buildings are taking far too much damage to tank, then the repair rate is irrelevant (as repairing the building won't help) and an increased construction and upgrade speed will help get those buildings back together. Only if your buildings are taking enough damage to be a threat but not enough to overwhelm the user will the repair rate be a factor - and even then, the upgrade speed is still a factor. Those are my thoughts, anyhow.

The Jag: Has a spike on the end of it Also The Jag: *-25% damage penalty*

omg the Spy vs Spy thumbnail is what i needed thx man...

4:27 my favorite qoute from this video simple, yet effective in getting the point across

Zesty: says stock gets more sentry kills Me using the jag on a 32 killstreak coming from 3 enemy scouts which keep running into it: oh i dont think so Seriously this actually happened to me

0:50 best moment xD

I’m pretty sure the damage per minute difference between stock and jag is so minuscule that the damage difference value, if isolated by itself, wouldn’t be able to one-shot a BFB scout’s boost.

Jag : no random critical hit 11:33 Also Jag: two random crits Engeniers: *texas happy noises*

People: *start using stock more* Stock: *stonks ^*

Why does he sound like how the engineer would talk

50 rounds in a row on casual pl_badwater ? Gonna need a dispenser to heal from that one. As for the video itself, I like this take on the Stock vs the Jag subject and would love to see more videos like this for different weapons and classes eventually.

That Austin Powers intro... I was not expecting to see that today, but I’m not complaining

I have almost 10,000 hours in tf2 and I always use the jag. It helps me get out of slick situations as an engie and it also helps kills friendlies faster with the extra crit chance

Give me a link to that menu background of yours

The Jag seems to be if the Gunslinger could build higher level sentries.

I liked how you did this video in a Texan voice.

fucking thumbnail looks like Spy vs Spy

Uncle zesty is a rely gud sentry man

"An engineer player will say that the Jag is the best wrench" they must have forgotten about the Southern Hospitality

1:42 I was expecting multiple chain explosions Michael Bay style. Just like Dr. Lalve.

just copying Uncle Dane SMH

So the stock wrench maximizes your sentry, your jag maximizes your dispenser, and your eureka effect maximizes your teleporter. Neat.

This video is SO COOL. That line integral explanation made so much sense and was really well explained. Well done, man

Being an engie main, I support all the points made in this, though I did find that with the jag I had lvl 3 buildings up more often, due to the increased hit rate, thus increased upgrade rate. But that’s just me, you can decide what you want.

correct answer: both build your buildings with zhe jag first, zhen if you die or are close enough to spawn switch to stock. Zhe jag is good for gettin' zhe buildings up quickly, but zhe stock keeps zhem alive longer. Combine zhose two factors and you are better of zhan only using one.

I think building everything with the Jag and then switching to stock would be really powerful. You have the best of both worlds: you build things fast, and get to keep them alive.

"WHY DO WE HAVE 4 ENGINEERS". it's pretty much the law for last on badwater

Only real Uncles and Nephews use the Eureka Effect

The thumbnail is such a cool reference I can’t not watch this video now

I sure do love watching stat videos for a game I can't even play

I remember the times when it was basically a direct upgrade to the Wrench in building territory, because there was also no slower repair rate penalty. I don't really miss those times.

as far as I see it: Jag - You accept the fact that your buildings will die eventually, so you use the faster build speed to reduce the down time between the building being destroyed to the building being operational again. Stock Wrench - You try to keep the building up for as long as possible, you'll go down with the ship.

I absolutely love that you brought out your Texan accent for the engineer-specific video. Great attention to detail.

As a Engineer man myself, I’m pretty sure the Eureka Effect is never looked upon, but remains one of the best.

Using the rescue ranger with your jag negates the slower repair speed, however you are still susceptible to the spies

Yeeehaw! Now that's the voice of a true Engineer! Well, what can I say. Experience talks by itself so the descriptions of the Jag a "stick to your attack team" style and the stock wrench as a "slow tank, higher quality nests" were pretty much how I felt each weapon already. But as a well documented video research using actual scientific methods your video did bring a smile to my face.

Holy accent Batman. In all honesty I thought I was watching a video from somebody's channel that I've never watched before. I was NOT prepared for that.

"As soon as he stops shaking my hand... I'm gonna make a run for it..."

He protecc He atacc But most important He keeps the Sentry alive

Nice spy vs spy reference

Australian frying pan is the obvious winner

It's honestly all about the game mode. In payload I'd say it depends on what team you're on, but they're both nearly equal. But in nearly every other game mode, being able to get buildings up faster with the jag is such a huge advantage when you're constantly shifting positions

Reg Wrench = NOPE YOU AREN'T KILLIN' MY BABY, NOT TODAY Jag = BATTLE ENGINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

I think if you add unlockables into the mix, the stats will actually be more similar. Just think about the wrangler: what i can't tank with the wrench i'll tank with the shield, therefore making all the "less survivability" of the sentry argoument useless cause of the shield. So in this particoular case stock wins, but when you throw other weapons then it's all another story

I love that Austin powers reference

I think all we could agree on is that those item as a frickin huge

I had always felt that the Jag was a bit overstated in terms of it being a direct upgrade over stock, so it's nice to see a well implemented test showing that it is what it was always intended to be: a sidegrade. Great video!

at 8:38 there is probably the most god-tier unusual and hat combo, i'm pretty sure it's a 3 of a kind

It really just depends on the situation. Jag if you want your buildings up faster, (usually setting up on defense or just generally on attack) and wrench for keeping your buildings up.

If I'm playing Spy, and I see an engie using Jag, I immediately switch my to a Red Tape Recorder. I may not destroy the building, but I'll piss off the engie enough he'll wish he hadn't used Jag.

Love the jerma Easter egg at 4:31

For some reason, I didn’t question why you were speaking like a Texan until you pointed it out. Like “Gasp, wait he’s one of us now!” XD

This is way too amazingly edited, stop that. Also oh my god a Texan TF2 KZfaqr, howdy from Dallas!

1:45 missed opportunity to pit "The Wrench that Jagged me"

ah austin powers, i see you're a man of culture as well as science

1:52 Oh god, he’s gone Southern

I may not be an Engineer main, but I can still proudly say: Southern Hospitality

The Jag DPS evolution looks like an industrial town

So basically, the jag is more of an offensive wrench, because of how fast you can get buildings up and pump out buildings as fast as you can. The stock is more of a defensive wrench because since it repairs faster, it makes for a tank structure.

This man really used calculus to figure out what virtual weapon is better than another virtual weapon