3p1c tr1ck$tab at 7:34

I love how the bombinomicon is far better at explaining things than Valve is

Fun fact, a photo about an official rocket jumper training field got leaked online a few years ago. So Valve did indeed planned to update the training mode at some point:)

Having unlockable weapons that change playstyles significantly (like the Huntsman, Flare Gun, Chargin' Targe, etc) would be super useful for the tutorial. That's like the main draw of TF2 and shakes up the game quite a bit, why would Valve leave it out? I remember when I was new at the game and didn't know what unlockables were, I kept seeing Demos with swords charging at people and thought it was a base ability of the class. Since the concept of shields is never explained anywhere, I had no idea that you needed a separate item for it and thought there was just some hidden button you had to press while you had your melee out.

To this day I can’t rack my brain as to why they stopped making class tutorials at 4 of them. Were they so bad at making them they just forgot? Did they stop out of fear of spreading more bad information such as turtling? Were they fired as a result of making it, and everyone else was too scared to remove the tutorial and replace it because even coming close to it curses you with losing your frontal lobe?

God i wish that you could just see the tips per class whenever you feel like it.

I like the way the first tutorial's second section was made and wish most of it would be taught in a similar way, instead of in the vacuum of that shooting range. Like, maybe even incorporate that shooting range into some other maps and start the training in there, and then move on to a demonstration with other classes. For example, Engineer tutorial starts in the training room, and then a door opens and you appear in the cave spawn on Upward, where you're shown a bunch of teammates attacking some enemies on the second point, and they run out of ammo and say "need a dispenser here" and you're shown a good dispenser spot in the cave exit. Then, after you build it they all say "thanks and go on with their business as you're told to place a sentry to guard the cave so that you can hold your position. And this can go on with some other things happening, but I'd like this practical way of teaching more. After all, Engineer solves practical problems.

you may think that valve teaching engies to turtle is bad, but at the very least they are tought how to be a mild annoyance, your average f2p med will take a solid 15 minutes to figure out that they have a medigun since they are never told so

Fun fact: You can use the setclass command in console to forcibly change off soldier in this tutorial with no negative effects save for janky messed up text box hints!

Fun fact: doing the "go go go" voice line will also make a bot medic use their übercharge ...yeah that's all I got...

"Press E to tell a medic to heal you" *voice communication not available for this account*

A “movement” tutorial covering crouch jumping, explosive jumping, and fall damage all together in an obstacle course could work too.

I wonder why after all this time no one has made some kind of modded tutorial that teaches the essentials of all 9 classes, aswell as the rules of every game mode. I know TF2 is basically only run by the community at this point, but no new players will know how to navigate the clunky server browser to find rocket jump training or other such tools. 1 solid tutorial overhaul mod that's easy to download the community could endorse and promote heavily for new players to find would do wonders for the games. No clue if this would be even possible but crazier things have been done.

I feel like compiling everything in a bit match might be better. As you said with the sniper, demo, pyro examples but simply seeing a scout double jump above you, bumping into a spy somewhere, spy checking because a teammate pointed out a spy just to find that it was one of your teammates, heavy doing mostly the point and all with text boxes would be interactive and amazing for teaching the player and would get a general idea of the classes.

"Wake up babe, the space man just posted"

The worse thing for a new player is learning hitreg is bad and needing configs. I have over 2000 hours and tried many configs and I still can't seem to fix hitreg where I can even reliably use hitscan.

I swear, tf2ubers are the few things single handedly pumping this game's heart.

Now that Vscript is being introduced into the game anyone who cared enough could be able to fix theses most of theses issues and post his training courses on the official Github. Now all we need is a guy with enough patience and dedication.

8:16 I'll argue that random crits cannot be explained at all, even most experienced players will yell "WHAT WAS THAT?"

Can’t help imagining a ideal tutorial where its presented as a Class clone in a fancier hat teaches you how your class plays in the bunker, having the occasional enemy class “sneak in” for relevant mechanics, then concludes with a game mode best suited for the class with a few scripted bot placements and behaviors. The spy’s tutorial starts in the enemy bunker.

For the first year or so when I installed tf2, I did nothing but play against bots. I never went into pubs, just bots. Besides some bad habits, I’d say it paid off. But playing with players is the best way to learn the nuance of this game, naturally.

I feel like the TF2 tutorials were made just for the sake of having a tutorial.

Valve should hire you to write class descriptions, those were bloody on point.

Training: "Press E to call for healing" *F2P's: ....*

Ok, two things I'd recommend for Sniper: 1. Moving target practice where, after the initial overview of charge times and class health, the target bots start moving along prerecorded but very erratic paths. 2. Basic spacial awareness training, where a spy bot decloaks behind you while you're scoped in and doesn't do anything but gives you an example of why constantly staying scoped is a bad idea.

I would honestly have heavy be the basic training. He's the easiest to use in casual, but also the most basic. For the most part, I'd have the player learn the class, though learning basics with the heavy... Then recreate a scene from their meet the teams, to let the player FEEL like they got an understanding of the class.

fun fact: found in the recent leak of TF2, there was found several training maps, with several things left out of modern training, including teaching players how to rocket jump and more

saw you while you got the medic footage. i swear next time ill make sure you dont walk away because of my poor aim

There are glass shards in my arm

"quebec instead of full-on france" omg perfect line

Someone should make a tutorial map on the workshop that goes over all of this. Kind of like the campaign maps some people make. And then just get it added to as many tutorial steam guilds/KZfaq videos as possible.

When playing on the 2nd part of Dustbowl in the training mode, there is a chance all the blu bots will get stuck in the corner of Spawn leaving you to face all the red bots alone.

great video, great editing, love it :D

You really like your alliterations, dont you?

I think some achievements works as tutorials "Batter up" incentives you to double jump more often "Bomb squaddie" teaches you to remove stickies with shotguns "Hot shot"/"hot potato" incentives you to reflect "Highland fling" teachs you about sticky jump And many more And also the loading screen tips can help you realize some stuff But the tutorials, yeah, they are done poorly

When I started TF2 I haven't watched any vids about the game on YT prior, only the Meet the Team vids on Steam page, and that somehow gave me enough knowledge to do a proper first match in Practice Mode, haven't even done all the class courses And for a first match it went really good, knew how to hide stickies, kept in mind Heavy's revup, even knew when to watch out for Spies and use Medic's Syringe Gun effectively, only didn't know how to upgrade the buildings, but already knew which building did what and how I should place them, even knew how to remove Sappers The only part that took some time to get used to is unlockables, that one should definetly be explained, that is the only part that made me WM1 since it's like "Oh cool a new weapon it has to be better!" when you get your first one

Fun fact, didnt even know there was a training mode for tf2 until after half a year of playing it already. Everything i learned up to that point was me in casual matches. Ive been playing since 2019 and didnt know spies could teleport through enemy teleporters until 4 months ago

12:11 Glad to see my DM has re-joined your patreon. Was worried when he fell off for a while.

I previously didn't liked this channel because of the awful audio it was, But now I'm here subscribed, like button broken, and really proud of how far you've gotten. Great work man

And during the medic tutorial, there should never be a mention of a syringe gun being a thing that exists.

The tutorial reeks of 'Oh right, we should probably finish making that' vibes.

loved the video! especially the description of heavy, +1 sub!

Surprised no one in the community workshop made a dedicated tutorial map to show what you are supposed to do

Left4Dead 2 has an unofficial tutorial campaign made by the community. tr_walkway is honestly not a good tutorial map, a good training map. But to teach players the unique abilities of each class, a similar endeavor as to what happened with the L4D2 community, has to take place.

It's rather sweet to see Space is getting better at editing/constructing videos :)

With the Medic in particular, it doesn't help that there is no HUD element that communicates that a hurt teammate will give you faster uber. A lot of TF2's mechanics aren't just unexplained; they're almost invisible.

Random Ben 10 Ultimate Alien Cosmic Destruction reference is greatly appreciated, thank you

I personally think that some of the meet the team videos, such as Meet The Medic, Meet The Soldier, Meet The Spy, Meet The Sniper and Meet The Heavy to some extend, could be used as lessons for new players.

Did he just accidentally make a parody of "We didn't start the fire" just by naming TF2 techniques?

Finally good tutorial Thanks

I have played tf2 for a month now and I did not know what crouch jumping was until you mentioned it

literally the moment i went back to check on the training mode this video popped up

Hurtling in a cheeky spot is only fun when you get to do it like with the eureka effect wrench

I was genuinely thought that the video was explaining TF2's Terrible"Trading"

3:10 yep, 600+ hours and I had no idea that was a thing

heh, i was looking for a vid like this a while back thanks recommended!

lol, as a medic main i feel that lack of medic tutorial i think that a medic tutorial should be split into: how the medigun works: showcasing the medibeam's range, ability to match target's speed, debuff reduction time and well, healing ubercharge: uber rate (injured enemies vs applying overheal vs full overheal, also introducing this function) activating uber (uber duration/flashing teammates) and last and least a section to teach medic's actual effectiveness, by placing the player on a fight to show how shitty medic stock primary and melee are)

For like a good minute i thought it said "twerking tf2's terrible training"

Wait you can use enemy dispensers when you're disguised? Who thought the video on how trash tutorials are actually teaches something the tutorial doesn't?

have each tutorial go over each classes basic ability eg have scout double jump over a fence, soldier rocket jump over a gap, pyro reflect a rocket etc etc and lock casual and comp til they are all completed. this will give new players enough of a push in the right direction where they can play the classes somewhat effectively while also slowing down bots from ruining casual by a whole 5 mins

as a new player this video taught me way more than the tutorials ever did (also i never knew there was a second part in the tutorials? i wonder how i managed to skip over that lol) i really do wish there was a better tutorial system though. i didn't even learn how to crouch jump until i played Half-Life last week.

While I agree the tutorial system needs to be improved, I must admit there’s a special kind of serotonin hit I got whenever I figured out something like rocket jumping or damage surfing way back in 2013 when I first started playing. Learning on the fly can be really fun too for new players; so long as said players don’t expect to win every time

The loading screen tips are probably a better tutorial than the actual tutorial

Map Collab Contest Idea: Remake a tutorial based off one of the nine classes that covers the basics. An optional 10th one can also be done for general misc information (unlocks, objectives, etc)

I wasn't expecting the Quebec comparison lmao

FINALLY, I’ve been crying over this for a long time

I was completely unaware there was a tutorial, I learned on hand XD

Awesome thanks for a non tier list video

9:44 I'd change it to "most projectiles" since it would probably confuse newer player with not being able to reflect the syringe gun needles, bison shots, pompson shots, and Halloween spells.

I think some good examples could be easily and quickly implemented for Medic. You could have to heal multiple teammates to max overheal, but have the last one be a disguised spy who undisguises once they’re healed to naturally teach the player to watch out for spies. You could have situations where ubercharge is required e.g. having to push through a spammed chokepoint with a soldier, and being surrounded by other classes and having to escape without dying

Just recently finally made my first trick stab, its so satisfying and I recently also go my first major chain stab of 5 people.

SpaceGuyOnline is the king of alliteration

Hey space guy I was in your medic game huge fan of yours

When the game was part of the physical release of the Orange Box, it actually had a manual that explained the unique abilities of each class. Remember game manuals? No? Damn I'm old...

the tutorial is the literal definition of "the tutorial you have to do even though you know how to play the game already"

One gripe I have about the meet the Pyro video is they put the flare gun in it even though it's a separate unlock

3:08 using the "Go go go" voice line also makes them pop, which is how I figured out you could do this

Honestly I'm surprised that they didn't add more tutorials and only 4. I can understand not giving one to Sniper Or Heavy for being mechanically simple, maybe Pyro too depending on if tutorial was released before Pyro got airblast. This still leaves Scout and Medic.

i think the heavy should also have their own section for the sandvich, considering how it is PARAMOUNT in most heavy loadouts, and considering how the item is big enough to warrant having it's own meet the team video. just a basic tutorial telling you to try and use the sandvich in safe spots, and a small section dedicated to giving the sandvich to teammates (such as your pocket medic) would be fine. i think in general that introductions for unlocks would be nice for most of the classes that have major ones, like the demoman's swords and shields, the engineer's gunslinger, and other such weapons that change a large part of your gameplay in terms of the class alone.

I think the training segment is an unfinished project that was shipped out, having to teach every strength, weakness, quirk of every class aside from bugs (Looking at trickstabs) would take longer and would probably into the spaghetti code. So we just have this one :/

cool video basedguyonline, now go drink your maple syrup

I think the reason there isn’t info on rocket jumping in soldier training is because they had a planned rocket jump planning map but it was cut

I feel like the trqining mode should give a reward at the end a mannco box That will unbox any hat or weapon for teach you what a mannco box is but key is not tradable the unbox stuff cant be strange or unusual and will always be a non craftable hat

I'd love to see someone make some new and improved training maps as a mod for the game, done in the style of the original tutorial. If I actually knew how to use the hammer editor, I would've done it myself.

the reason why rocket jumping isn't brought up in the tutorials is because it wasn't an intentional mechanic it was an embraced bug still should have it added though

Judging by the background music, there is some seriously common overlap between TF2 and PMD players, and I appreciate it greatly.

i actually played this when i started playing tf2, wierdly the other tutorials don't work and the dustbowl part also doesn't work, i have read that issue on others too

Hey mate some sfm stuff for you I see that you still have green stuffs around your guys during the titlecard esque segment, You can turn the map brightness down in your camera settings and then putting a green screen behind them should put 2 conpletely contrasting colors with nothing inbetween. Exporting both the contrasted version and the actual version and then putting them both together will let you just lasso only the background color and then cut it on the real part giving you a much more crisp and sharp outline.

I also noticed the tutorial telling you to call for Medic when valve made them unable to do so. Also, I think that showing people what the spy looks like from 3rd person ehen doing his stuff could be a good way to teach them. If the bot mirrored your movements instead and there was both a friendly and an unfriendly spy it would probably teach you even more and allow you to play as and against the class better.

Another thing I feel should go in a Heavy tutorial is how one can hold Mouse2 to stay revved up, and knowing when to unrev your minigun.

Also using the "go go go" voice lines make medic bots use uber.

This guy really improved on sfm

holy shit they made the chucklenuts guy into a real thing

I remember when I lurned Crouch jumping in tftwo someone told me how to do it so I could get into a boxing ring on a trade server.

With the new vscript update I think one could make great community tutorials.

6:35 as a new player,every single engineer in my games does that

I think that after the soldier training you should get the rocket jumper and after demo training, the sticky jumper

"the engineer tutorial gives out incorrect information" *shows image of the engineer tutorial giving correct information*

Ah yes, nothing better than starting words with t four times in a row for a title. Not as good as "Patiently pondering perfectly pleasant puzzles" was, but four is good enough.

The only thing I learned from the training is that I could charge stickies