The Ultimate Beretta 1301 vs. A300 Patrol Review

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This video is the ULTIMATE Beretta 1301 versus Beretta A300 Patrol comparison. In this episode of TFBTV, ‪@JamesReeves‬ answers this burning “1301 or A300” question with the help of three experts: Famed shooter and gunsmith, Ernest Langdon; the notorious second generation shotgun instructor, Matt Haught; and Ben Grundwerg, a clever Beretta Product Manager who helped develop the Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol. It’s literally impossible to assemble a more competent and authoritative panel of guests than the men in this video to help you decide which shotgun you should pick up. (And also James is there.)
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@matthaught4707
@matthaught4707 Жыл бұрын
It's legit interesting to me how different people perceive recoil. Both James and Ernest are experienced, competent shotgunners who agree that the 1301 kicks less than the a300. For me, it's more of the difference in 'jumpiness', for lack of a better term. The increased bolt velocity of the 1301 makes it jump around more for me, which is probably exacerbated by how much I shoot pump guns that have a single-phase recoil impulse. All of the semis jump around more for me, just because you have the initial recoil, then the bolt slamming back and forth in the action. So for me, I perceive the a300 as being less jumpy than the 1301, but it's a small difference. They're both great guns serving different market niches extremely well.
@andrewberman8743
@andrewberman8743 Жыл бұрын
Any recommendations for a quality pump gun that does it all? Thank you.
@bobjohnson1633
@bobjohnson1633 Жыл бұрын
Mossberg Maverick, 500 series, 870 series, super x series. It's hard to go wrong with a pump gun.
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewberman8743 local shops are over flowing with used shotguns, Mossberg 500's, Rem 870's, and all the clones of Winchester's, prices are cheap. Buying new and wanting tactical advantages (increased capacity), then 590-A1 is a very good choice, or the Maverick 88 tactical.
@GS-jk4cs
@GS-jk4cs Жыл бұрын
@Matt Haught, did you notice if either the 1301 or A300 was easier to keep topped off and running past the initial 7 rounds in the tube? The A300's loading port and fore end look like they're better once keeping the gun topped off becomes a factor.
@matthaught4707
@matthaught4707 Жыл бұрын
@@GS-jk4cs The a300's deeper scalloped loading port does seem to help a bit, but the 1301 isn't exactly onerous to load either. I'm definitely partial to the a300's forend, but I had a lot of input in the design so I might be a bit biased.
@1977Yakko
@1977Yakko Жыл бұрын
When you did your Mossberg Maverick 88 500 rd burn, Mossberg accepted the challenge and said "Bring it on" and they have sponsored this channel in the past. I'd be interested in seeing a side-by-side of the Mossberg 940 Tactical vs. Beretta A300 Patrol. A battle of the $900 semi-auto boomsticks.
@SerenGetter
@SerenGetter Жыл бұрын
I think that sponsorship is exactly whats preventing that actually.
@stoptrackingourdata8158
@stoptrackingourdata8158 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I want to see a Mossberg comparison. I'm a brand loyal bitch on shotguns; but if someone can sway me in another direction, I'm all ears.
@joehardway
@joehardway Жыл бұрын
THIS! A Burndown showdown, for Tha Poors!
@Lawraven
@Lawraven Жыл бұрын
I have a mossberg 930 SPX and the A300 Patrol. No comparison. A300 is way better. The mossberg 930 SPX had problems right from the start and is still finicky.
@joehardway
@joehardway Жыл бұрын
@Lawraven Kid had'a SPX for awhile. Kicked līka mule, and was pretty finicky. He soldit n got'a M4. Too cheap for that, but tha choice betwixt tha 940T, and A300, is tha choice most'a tha "well to do" Poors, are savin-up to make...
@gisellesbikeseat
@gisellesbikeseat Жыл бұрын
Whipping sideways into the disabled parking like a true gentleman
@Sig_P229
@Sig_P229 Жыл бұрын
“Like a glove!”
@johnrodgers5471
@johnrodgers5471 Жыл бұрын
Tossing the keys that now cost like 250 bucks to replace if they break. The man is a menace
@briansw70
@briansw70 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a mental dosability
@Sig_P229
@Sig_P229 Жыл бұрын
@@briansw70 that fact that it says dosability makes it sound that much better. 😆
@Sig_P229
@Sig_P229 Жыл бұрын
@@johnrodgers5471 it’s a rental lol. I am pretty sure those are Ohio plates
@Gigachad_97
@Gigachad_97 Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy we’re living through this tactical shotgun renaissance. I REALLY hope we see Benelli make a new offering to the market.
@eisenkrieg553
@eisenkrieg553 Жыл бұрын
Benelli lives in Beretta's cuckshed though. Same with Franchi.
@Gigachad_97
@Gigachad_97 Жыл бұрын
@@eisenkrieg553 I know man, but it would be cool to see something new
@kirk0respite
@kirk0respite Жыл бұрын
They don’t need to they have the m4
@Gigachad_97
@Gigachad_97 Жыл бұрын
@@kirk0respite wouldn’t you like to see an updated M4 with Mlok, QD cups, enlarged controls, etc?
@d7dun1010
@d7dun1010 Жыл бұрын
I have both and you are so right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My 1301 Langdon is excellent but aspires to be what the m4 has been and will continue to be for so long!
@kaseycarter230
@kaseycarter230 10 ай бұрын
Love how the dude totally drops a part on the concrete at the 7:38 mark and tries to pretend nothing happened. 😂
@SectionChief
@SectionChief Жыл бұрын
7:37. Was that my order you just dropped on the floor??😂😂😂
@humorss
@humorss 4 ай бұрын
good catch
@user-wc8yw4dw8w
@user-wc8yw4dw8w Жыл бұрын
Great video. Can't wait to see if Langton Tactical does something for the A300. I get the whole "if you're going to spend more just buy a 1301" argument, but a A300 tactical with $500 in accessories is still $95 cheaper than a 1301 with no accessories at all. More importantly, it's a lot more available at the moment.
@bigjeep127
@bigjeep127 Жыл бұрын
Beretta has done a great job of marketing their price increase on the 1301. You could get one for 950-1k just a year ago. The problem for them was people found out it's a better gun than the Benelli M4 (Beretta owns Benelli) and were just buying 1301's for half the price. So they needed to find a way to increase the pricepoint. Enter the A300, a tactical version of the hunting rifle they've sold for years, marketed as a budget 1301, and increased the 1301 by $400. They make videos explaining the cost "oh it's chrome, that's why". Well the 1301 comp is still around $1100, with the same guts. They're just capitalizing on the 1301 tactical being popular. I don't blame them wanting to make more money, but it's comical how quickly everyone seems to bought their story and just accepted the price increase.
@guitaristguy20
@guitaristguy20 Жыл бұрын
In terms of reliability, it is not a better gun than the M4. Reason why? The M4 is so robust. All it needs is a good cleaning and every 10,000 rounds you need to take out the two pistons and give them a good scrubbing. The 1301 on the other hand while being a great shotgun, has a little gas ring on the inside that I didn’t even know about. When I went to do a general cleaning after 500 rounds, I noticed that there was an O-ring that was torn in half that fell out when I took the gun apart. No matter how good the gun shoots, if it has gas rings for the operation that rip on the inside that you don’t know about until you open it up, that’s a reliability concern. The M4 still superior in terms of reliability.
@RichardoGalvan-bs9rl
@RichardoGalvan-bs9rl 5 ай бұрын
Better than the Benelli M4 / 1014 ? The Benelli was made from the beginning as a combat shotgun, used for decades by the Marines and used in Combat around the world. That’s decades of good reliable service - the 1301 is the new kid on the block - might be great but it doesn’t have the history that the M4 / 1014 has.
@almiller1371
@almiller1371 3 ай бұрын
Beretta should merge the two companies and call it "Berben."
@brianshuler6951
@brianshuler6951 Жыл бұрын
Ernest is one of the greatest gun guys in The Country. Who else would put 50,000 rounds through a Beretta Px4 in one year to prove what a great pistol it is?
@burtbiggum499
@burtbiggum499 Жыл бұрын
Who else would sell a $600 slide with a front sight that cant be centered? Then when you send it in to get fixed not change anything then have your front sight disappear during a match
@Murphy82nd
@Murphy82nd Жыл бұрын
@@burtbiggum499 worst customer service I ever had was LTT. I've had customer service experiences with Geissele, Gray Guns, Cajun Gun Works, etc. All of them seemed to care more about my experience as a customer than LTT.
@adventure6583
@adventure6583 Жыл бұрын
@Burt Biggum Sounds like a you problem
@Anonymous8421
@Anonymous8421 Жыл бұрын
​@@burtbiggum499Kimber
@gutblaster187
@gutblaster187 Жыл бұрын
​@@Murphy82nd My experience has been different. They've even taken the time to answer general mechanical questions for me on the operation of the 92, reviewing videos I sent in to illustrate my questions.
@wxexw
@wxexw Жыл бұрын
Far more research, content and information than any TV show has ever done on a shotgun or other firearm. Thank you.
@slimdog7088
@slimdog7088 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video James. I just bought an A300 Patrol and I love it. However…, I never shot the 1301 Tac and the $500 difference was a factor for me. I think the good news is; both are a great choice for what I’d be using it for which is Home defense & training needs. Thanks for doing this comparison!!
@turb0b0ytim
@turb0b0ytim Жыл бұрын
James Reeves: doing God's work. I bet it is a huge relief to finally get this out there. Thank you. I try not to be a fan boy, but it's hard with my PX4 and A300
@tfbtv
@tfbtv Жыл бұрын
Haha, yea, it is a huge relief. Get asked every day.
@beasmode18
@beasmode18 Жыл бұрын
A simple question was asked, and the man's response was a beautiful documentary.👏👏👏
@sharkbait5402
@sharkbait5402 Жыл бұрын
I like the side by side comparison with subject matter experts. I wouldnt mind seeing this with some pistols and other rifles. Maybe just comparing different models based on there price points.
@ringingiron
@ringingiron Жыл бұрын
😂 That scene in the intro where the woman in foreground hears James and Ernest behind her talking about how good it feels with James’s low moaning and she makes a quick exit “l’ll just get out of the way” like she’s giving you guys some privacy to have your moment! Hysterical!
@SectionChief
@SectionChief Жыл бұрын
That’s Mrs. Langdon.
@highrafterranch1982
@highrafterranch1982 Жыл бұрын
Totally missed that… James’s moan drove her right outta sight…. Probably to the bathroom to puke
@originalterrorsquad
@originalterrorsquad Жыл бұрын
Very well done james. I'd like to see a a300 Ultima versus a mossberg 940 pro. I feel as though these are very much direct competition
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 Жыл бұрын
Their bolt lock, rear recoil spring and gas piston actuating are very similar.
@moline800hdyup4
@moline800hdyup4 11 ай бұрын
Big boy was out of breath just talking.. what a shame . Love the video
@tyrant_tarantula
@tyrant_tarantula 6 ай бұрын
I was looking for this. Thank you 😂
@ashton564
@ashton564 Жыл бұрын
“Beretta is great at marketing.” Me thinking about American Gladiator Nitro being in the PX4 ad, wipes a tear from his eye. “Yes. Yes, they are!”
@davidorlin3499
@davidorlin3499 Жыл бұрын
James, i must say this is the best comparison video between the Baretta 1301 & The A300 that i have ever watched. Keep up the excellent work.
@MrBullet888
@MrBullet888 Жыл бұрын
I so wanted a Beretta 1301 but no one around me had one in stock. I could order one but the wait was a bit. Happened on a Mossberg 590 Tactical (I know, it's a pump), and bought that. Still wanted an auto loader though. My old Remington 1100's are not tactical at all and are ungodly to wield except for hunting. The shotgun God's smiled on me and I found an older, barely used FN SLP mk1. Awesome shotgun with 8+1 stock capacity. Seller even had the tri rail with it. I love it. Still want a 1301 though. 😂
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 6 ай бұрын
My A300 doesn't care what you load into it. I have shot some super soft bird shot that the double barrel guys like, and the A300 blazes through it. I might get an 1301 some day, but right now the A300 is more than enough.
@EdwinLap
@EdwinLap Жыл бұрын
As a gun novice, this is the type of video that is well done for anyone wanting to buy a shotgun. Extremely informative and educational. Thank you for posting this.
@nicholasanthony-thesix11ar73
@nicholasanthony-thesix11ar73 Жыл бұрын
James def has a thing for shotguns. I feel the love from here😂 I was the only shotgun instructor at my agency, the other instructors wanted to get rid of them but unless you ran one in a defensive/instructor course you’ll never appreciate there use. The agency ended up selling them 😞
@infogunvault6920
@infogunvault6920 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand. What are you saying is happening during defensive/instructor courses that make people appreciate shotguns ( over other weapons for example)?
@1997LT1Camaro
@1997LT1Camaro Жыл бұрын
I love the competition from mossberg and beretta. I hope to see more. I own a 1301 and looking to take a tactical shotgun course in the near future. Shotguns are so good on a defensive level. 💪
@wedlpine
@wedlpine Жыл бұрын
At 7:38, the guy in the background on the right side of the frame dropped whatever he was working on, to the floor. It made me chuckle.
@untilvalhalla7854
@untilvalhalla7854 Жыл бұрын
You guys are turning me into a Beretta fanboy. Damn I’m going to need one of these.
@natep9171
@natep9171 Жыл бұрын
Best video opening ever.
@micahbrown8259
@micahbrown8259 Жыл бұрын
I purchased the beretta 1301 tactical with pistol grip new gen I love it
@duckhunter4660
@duckhunter4660 Жыл бұрын
Buy once cry once. Get the 1301. I shoot a lot of Beretta shotguns in very adverse conditions. The 1301 is much more reliable. Especially when it gets cold.
@westtexas3041
@westtexas3041 Жыл бұрын
I was going to buy an A300 but bought a 1301. I am very happy with the purchase.
@austin0351
@austin0351 Жыл бұрын
My takeaway from this is that my best option is to just buy both🤔
@fattigla
@fattigla Жыл бұрын
I love that. "Were those all on target?"
@talon2pro
@talon2pro Жыл бұрын
Will they charge less for the fire control mechanism dropped at 7:39?
@MopSpadowski
@MopSpadowski Жыл бұрын
My wife bought me an OD green 1301 a while back and I love it. Nordic +2 tubular magazine extension is a great upgrade.
@WildManActual
@WildManActual Жыл бұрын
Would be cool if Beretta brought back the FDE and OD versions.
@MopSpadowski
@MopSpadowski Жыл бұрын
@@WildManActual Didn’t know they weren’t being made anymore. Quite bizarre considering the A300 is getting a bunch of color and camo options. Maybe because the 1301 is made in Italy and the A300 is USA manufactured?
@Morbutt
@Morbutt Жыл бұрын
Great. That's pretty much what I wanted to hear. I only wanted an A300 to be a "good enough/great enough" shotgun. The price point of the 1301 isn't really so bad to me but rather the lack of availability of the 1301 _anywhere_ and my local shop had a few A300s in stock. Good to hear everything in this video.
@legoboy7825
@legoboy7825 Жыл бұрын
Hah, exact opposite for availability where I live. The A300 patrol doesn’t even exist in my country, but I emailed a local dealer about an ODG 1301 and received it next day.
@t.dubbya7000
@t.dubbya7000 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always James. Keep up the strong work!
@j.p.4541
@j.p.4541 Жыл бұрын
Great job James, I appreciate the time you put into making these videos.
@richwhippersnapper
@richwhippersnapper 4 ай бұрын
I can get the A300 for $900 with free shipping, but 900 is still a lot of money for a shotgun. I have a Russian Molot Vepr 12 I paid 700 for when you could get one, but no tube-fed tactical shotgun. The Beretta A300 fits the bill perfectly, but I will have to think long & hard about spending that kind of money on another gun. I am very impressed with your reviews of this shotgun, and it's reliability. I personally think it's a better choice for the money than the Benelli M2, or Beretta 1301.
@billangell6478
@billangell6478 Жыл бұрын
Ernest did a great job showing the difference between the two, I’ve been wanting to know for a while and this helped a lot!
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou Жыл бұрын
I recently picked up an all black A300 Patrol and I love it. It was in stock and affordable compared to an M4 or 1301. Couldnt find a 1301 anywhere in stock to check out. The A300 is significantly lighter than the M4 and I like the ergonomics better personally. The A300 was a great choice for me. I love this thing.
@dougcobb8114
@dougcobb8114 11 ай бұрын
1301 is lighter..less recoil..fyi..
@208SledHead
@208SledHead Жыл бұрын
I really needed this video. Thank you James and LT!
@user-in8tx9uv2u
@user-in8tx9uv2u Жыл бұрын
Just ordered my A300 after watching this video. Great content. Please keep it coming.
@johnpritch444
@johnpritch444 Жыл бұрын
Great video. It's definitely the best comparison video. I appreciate the time you put into this. Thank you.
@d7dun1010
@d7dun1010 Жыл бұрын
Very much so!!!!
@williamrandolph1566
@williamrandolph1566 Жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting and informative review. Thank you for this.
@darkpassenger65
@darkpassenger65 Жыл бұрын
"the 1301 is a rotating bolt that has a blink operating system it is going to cycle way faster than the a300", that's all I need to know. Taking the Thunder Ranch course with it.
@RichardEnglander
@RichardEnglander 2 ай бұрын
And you can have a folding stock and pistol grip with the 1301. Lucky man ❤
@chih6654
@chih6654 Жыл бұрын
Picked up a A300 Patrol in gray finish for $950 before taxes at a big box outdoor retailer. Out the box, comparing apples to apples, A300 is a much better package than 1301, I remember when 1301 were affordable, and mag extension would come in around 1300-1400 mark. 1301's are awesome, but I CANNOT justify with the additional $720 for the 1301 w/ pistol grip and mag tube extension, nor the additional $850+ for any LTT variants. I will delegate the funds to buy ammo to practice, as I doubt an amateur shooter like myself can truly tell the difference!
@strictlyformyninja
@strictlyformyninja Жыл бұрын
Earnest Langdon is like a Beretta wizard, he makes magic happen with those weapon systems and make them much much better. I love my beretta m9a3 slide from Langdon Tactical. Now I'm running a Leopuld Deltapoint Pro on it which has been really fun.
@wrongboarders6963
@wrongboarders6963 Жыл бұрын
Anything shotgun…we love it!
@d7dun1010
@d7dun1010 Жыл бұрын
Fighting shotguns are highly underrated!!!!!!!
@brandonrupp5880
@brandonrupp5880 Жыл бұрын
I think if you compare a bone stock 1301 to the a300 the value of the a300 looks even better.
@a.k47-74
@a.k47-74 Жыл бұрын
Very true, if you have no plans to modify or change parts, A300 is perfect.
@GS-jk4cs
@GS-jk4cs Жыл бұрын
Excellent point. The A300 comes out as the value leader by a clear margin when costs are compared.
@alexmaurice4274
@alexmaurice4274 Жыл бұрын
Was wondering-how bad is the a300 with birdshot for fuckin around shooting cheap ammo at the range? (Obvs buck for serious cases and serious training)
@RealEstateSafelyNavigated
@RealEstateSafelyNavigated Жыл бұрын
Super informative! Thanks James and Big Ern! 👍🏻🙏
@pete4633
@pete4633 Жыл бұрын
This video is awesome. I got the 1301 LE Gen 2 after James took his Gen 1 to thunder ranch Great shotgun 700 shells of everything from light trap to heavy nuclear 1600fps slugs no issues and I believe the blink is self cleaning as it’s barely more than a few patches and cleaned up
@johnnycincoguitar
@johnnycincoguitar Жыл бұрын
What about a Mossberg 940 vs Beretta comparison. Now they have similar price points and they both seem excellent.
@markn4526
@markn4526 4 ай бұрын
Yup...trying to decide between the A300 and the 940.
@johnnycincoguitar
@johnnycincoguitar 4 ай бұрын
@@markn4526 my 940 is hunting, clays and has run everything I put through it. Even some super light recoil reloads that my buddies autoloader jammed on every shot. The cutout for the red dot is great.
@markn4526
@markn4526 3 ай бұрын
@@johnnycincoguitar The 940 looks like a quality shotgun and I like the cutout. I'm interested in the Pro Tactical version with the 407K and the 940 Ultima Patrol model. Both seem to have their pluses and minuses.
@johnnycincoguitar
@johnnycincoguitar 3 ай бұрын
@@markn4526 i have the pro tac. Runs really good, but I don't another for comparison.
@markn4526
@markn4526 3 ай бұрын
@@johnnycincoguitar Does your 940PT have the Holosun sight? I'm finding that shopping for shotguns is like shopping for guitars. There are a lot of opinions out there!
@LazyPervySage
@LazyPervySage Жыл бұрын
I was just looking at these two yesterday and now this video comes out to help me make my choice lmao
@John_Redcorn_
@John_Redcorn_ Жыл бұрын
The question of reliability with weak loads is probably overblown. Everyone said the same thing about the Benelli inertia system but i can personally confirm ive never had a failure with my Montefeltro after thousands of rounds of cheap target loads.
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 Жыл бұрын
The more broken in the better with inertia driven. Had a Turkish clone of the M2 that clearly stated to run 40 rounds of 1290fps minimum. It was a fast shooter, but I could tell the metals it was made from wouldn't last long and it still didn't like to run fiocci game/target loads.
@XxxAtlantaxxX
@XxxAtlantaxxX Жыл бұрын
The battle is here ... 🍿🥃 Still looking for a Stoeger M3K/M3000 burn down.
@andyleotell
@andyleotell Жыл бұрын
Beretta owns stoeger and benelli I believe….
@stevem4783
@stevem4783 Жыл бұрын
Same. Half because I want to see how it does, half because I want to subject James' shoulder to 500 rounds of an inertia-driven action.
@XxxAtlantaxxX
@XxxAtlantaxxX Жыл бұрын
@@andyleotell my research indicates Stoeger is owned by Benelli which is owned by Beretta. Stoeger apparently makes parts for Benelli so if they're good enough to make Benelli parts they gotta have their stuff together to some significant level.
@XxxAtlantaxxX
@XxxAtlantaxxX Жыл бұрын
@@stevem4783 I don't expect it to outperform a Beretta 1301 or M4 but I think it might be the Maverick 88 of semi shotguns. It will just run.
@stevem4783
@stevem4783 Жыл бұрын
@@XxxAtlantaxxX Well, for $500-600 it better not outperform a 1301 or M4. Not that it's really comparable since those are gas shotties. The real question is if it'll run with an M2, and I think it would.
@earldelsanto
@earldelsanto 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic. 2 full college credits I push pull. I just bought a new Beretta a300 ultima patrol. I'm stocked.
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 2 ай бұрын
Got me A300 UP. Love it
@mclt8883
@mclt8883 Жыл бұрын
James , Thank you for this thorough comparison.
@notaperson622
@notaperson622 Жыл бұрын
I lost it at the parking job 🤣😂 Absolute mint
@lucasblanchard47
@lucasblanchard47 Жыл бұрын
7:38 That’s a pay cut. 😱🤣
@CalzaTheFox
@CalzaTheFox Жыл бұрын
Essentially speaking, the 1301 will suit a professional better - someone who intends to run their shotgun hard, get really good with it, and can squeeze a benefit out of the faster cycle, like a competitor. The A300 is better suited to a beginner, enthusiast, someone who wants a good shotgun, but won't necessarily see a benefit by paying twice as much for their shotgun. Diminishing returns kicking in fast.
@shoua7
@shoua7 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, and both excellent shotguns! Although I've got a gripe: on my Patrol, the plastic rear sight's left ear broke when it rolled onto its left side from 1 inch off the ground. I was pretty disappointed in the cheap quality of the plastic, but it gave me an excuse to upgrade to a fully adjustable steel rear sight from LPA. Still love the Patrol though, and even more now with a few upgrades.
@ridingmontana
@ridingmontana Жыл бұрын
At 7:39 in the video, guy in the background. Dont know what he dropped, but it was funny to watch. We've all been there
@SouthValleyKnifeCo
@SouthValleyKnifeCo Жыл бұрын
I got the 1301 awhile back and I am do glad that I did. I love it. But I will eventually get the A300 to have both
@nealgold8442
@nealgold8442 Жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative!!
@mrwdpkr5851
@mrwdpkr5851 Жыл бұрын
I could live with the A300 .
@MyPointofPew
@MyPointofPew Жыл бұрын
Ernest and the people at LTT are awesome. Love everything they do. If you need another video - P30L with the lightest LEM trigger buddy!
@jimelmore9728
@jimelmore9728 10 ай бұрын
I have the 1301C and love this shotgun. Advertised to shoot 36% faster than other shotguns. That is so much fun with a low brass bird shot. 3” mags in 000 buck and it will walk up and make it challenging to hold target. I wanted a shotgun I could use for brush gun hunting and self defense. I also purchased the mag extension and spring for self defense.
@inspectorman2018
@inspectorman2018 Жыл бұрын
I'm on the waiting list for a 1301 LTT...can't wait to get my hands on it!
@derekwest2
@derekwest2 Жыл бұрын
The parking job had me dying. 🤣🤣🤣
@Edub816
@Edub816 Жыл бұрын
Dude dropping his work at 7:34. Lol
@VTPSTTU
@VTPSTTU Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I don't think I'll have any semi-automatic shotgun in purchase plans, but I enjoy learning about them.
@slowmo7500
@slowmo7500 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison and review! I’m sold on both!
@joshmajor8662
@joshmajor8662 Жыл бұрын
Good ole bubba Ben!!! Lol the size of a house but gentle like a baby cactus 🌵😎
@TheNecronacht
@TheNecronacht Жыл бұрын
Just what I needed to start my morning ☕️
@gutblaster187
@gutblaster187 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more videos of the Langdon interview. It's looking like the Cheetah and the 1301 have turned James into a Beretta guy.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv Жыл бұрын
Basically
@markej4801
@markej4801 Жыл бұрын
James, thanks for the excellent comparison of these two awesome guns! Including LTT and even Beretta's personnel made this the perfect video to explain the differences as well as the pros and cons of both. It does confirm, IMO, my own purchase of the A300 Ultima Patrol and my reasons for having done so. The 1301 Tactical still reigns as top dog, but for my needs and desires, the A300 works. Those who wish to go for the 1301 won't be sorry, just will need to pay more for that privilege.
@mikejohnson280
@mikejohnson280 Жыл бұрын
Great information!.....I've got to know what the Dawn on the table is for.
@jball1975
@jball1975 Жыл бұрын
😂 That guy dropping stuff in the back.
@TheRogueElement
@TheRogueElement Жыл бұрын
7:40 worker in the background drops the shit out of something probably expensive lofl 😂
@kalbs89
@kalbs89 Жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons I purchased the 1301 was because of the review on TFB, it’s the most enjoyable shotgun I’ve ever used. I might just have to buy the Patrol to do my own comparison… how to explain this tp the Mrs. ?
@midnightkilla45
@midnightkilla45 Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned a Benelli M4 and also used one back in the Marines. Yes they are proven but at a certain point all you’re doing is paying for the name. Rule of thumb is buy shit that works and you’ll be fine. The M4, 1301 and A300 are all great in their own way. Sold my M4 to help buy a Christensen Arms. The next shotgun I get is probably going to be the A300. Why? Because it works and doesn’t break the bank after putting accessories on it.
@TROOPERfarcry
@TROOPERfarcry Жыл бұрын
I have the 1301 Competition... longer barrel, adds a ridge. I could take or leave the ridge, but the added barrel allows for a longer under-barrel magazine, without being goofy. Mine holds 10 Hornady Critical-Defense, and 9 of other brands. I checked into why that is, and the reason is that a 2-and-3/4 shell is that long *before the crimpe.* Different manufacturers use different crimps, and Hornady's overall _unfired_ shell is just short enough that my 1301 holds 9+1. If you're going to get a 1301, go ahead and pony up the money for a Kick-off system. You won't get much use out of it for very soft-shooting bird-shot, but in the beefier shots, you'll be able to make a relatively soft-shooting gun even softer. Oh, one thing I _don't_ like about the 1301 is that it doesn't have a good system for mounting a forward sling or light. By far, the most common system is that combination barrel-magazine clamp.. and that does work. BUT, if you want to disassemble the shotgun for cleaning, then you have to remove that barrel-clamp. It's a work-around, not a solution. One other option that I've seen is a large metal O-ring with a picatinny attached to it that fits between the tubular-magazine cap and the gas-system.... though I haven't gotten one of those yet, so I can't give an opinion. I do have the barrel-clamp, and it does work, but it is scratching both the barrel and the magazine to have it attached-and-removed every cleaning.
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 Жыл бұрын
GG&G has a few different options for 1301 sling/light attachment, and it's fairly inexpensive. Might even find on sale at Primary Arms.
@outofrangetv2353
@outofrangetv2353 Жыл бұрын
I think the real question is the 1301 45% better, since it costs that much more
@Anonymous8421
@Anonymous8421 Жыл бұрын
See: diminishing returns No firearm above 500 dollars is going to have performance to price increase parity. That's only something you'd see on the low end of the market like a Glock being 4 times the gun a hipoint is.
@heydeereman1040
@heydeereman1040 Жыл бұрын
If it's a closet gun or a safe queen, then no. If you are going to use it to the potential, then 1301 is the choice
@SerenGetter
@SerenGetter Жыл бұрын
The 1301 is an objective better gun for competition rapid fire shooting but as a defensive gun the A300 is 99% the same as the 1301
@heydeereman1040
@heydeereman1040 Жыл бұрын
@@SerenGetter somehow I doubt that any operators are going to be taking any A300 patrol into combat, but 1301s will definitely see that kind of action
@SerenGetter
@SerenGetter Жыл бұрын
@@heydeereman1040 I doubt any LEO unit could justify spending $600 more on a semi-auto shotguns that do literally the exact same things. More than likely you're not going to see "operators" running 1301 shotguns, this is meant to replace the old police car 870s, not replace the Benelli M4.
@nicholasfonseca9243
@nicholasfonseca9243 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been in the late stages of “should I buy this gun” and James uploads this video with the ultima patrol. I’m getting it tmrw
@wolfgangamadeus1246
@wolfgangamadeus1246 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to the cycle rate, the 1301 is the machine gun of shotguns, no question.
@akforge
@akforge 4 ай бұрын
So 1301 it is, thanks for a no BS comparison of the two from a leading Subject Matter Expert on Beretta street sweepers. 👍🏻
@ron1359
@ron1359 Жыл бұрын
Getting your hands on a LTT 1301 is like getting a Wily Wonka golden ticket. Every time I see a restock they are gone just as quick.
@bobsmoot2392
@bobsmoot2392 2 ай бұрын
Great video! Technical stuff meets practical usage.
@SA-xf1eb
@SA-xf1eb Жыл бұрын
Makes me want a 1301 even more.
@heydeereman1040
@heydeereman1040 Жыл бұрын
Love mine! Well worth the 🪙
@Jh20-
@Jh20- Жыл бұрын
It's worth the money, I have the ltt 1301 and the comp pro. Both are top tier scattergats!
@Lexman00
@Lexman00 Жыл бұрын
I wanna get one too, but I think i can wait until they upgrade the loading port on the 1301.
@SA-xf1eb
@SA-xf1eb Жыл бұрын
@@Lexman00 that's what I was thinking as well.
@jeffconley819
@jeffconley819 Жыл бұрын
@@Lexman00 I’ll buy another one when that mod come out 😳
@jaytate7899
@jaytate7899 Жыл бұрын
I been waiting for this thank you James
@imracer05
@imracer05 Жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video! Never heard of LTT. Definitely going to look towards them when getting something in the future.
@deakdeagen938
@deakdeagen938 8 ай бұрын
7:37 - Butterfingers alert.😂🤣
@reynaldopenalba9930
@reynaldopenalba9930 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. Thank you.
@2jzgteSupraJZA80
@2jzgteSupraJZA80 Жыл бұрын
Selling my old Mossberg 930 Spx to fund the 1301.
@d7dun1010
@d7dun1010 Жыл бұрын
The 930 SPX is a fine gun!!! So is the 1301!
@davidbrown2284
@davidbrown2284 Жыл бұрын
Have a couple different 930 SPX’s. I thought they were great shooters once I put all the GGG upgrades on them. I ended up finding a used A300 a couple months ago for under $700 (tons of shells included…👍🏼). OMG, what different shotguns they are. I can’t imagine needing any internal upgrades on the A300. I’ve been shooting 1200 FPS Walmart shells through the A300, and no issues. The 930’s I have can’t do that. Yeah, the 930’s are gonna be looking for new homes soon. Thanks for the video TFB TV.
@Sam-et3bv
@Sam-et3bv Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video!
@jasonb4988
@jasonb4988 Жыл бұрын
Frankly this is one of the best videos I’ve seen in a long time. Obviously the 1301 is amazing, but the A300 represents good value. I’m a huge 1301 fan and I personally think it’s the best in the business .. currently. JMO
@jamesmcallen3354
@jamesmcallen3354 Жыл бұрын
I have an A300 Outlander shotgun that I use for clay shooting. Several thousand rounds over the years, all Federal value packs from Walmart and Remington gun club target loads. I’ve kept it clean and lubed and I’ve never had a malfunction. The internals of mine look the same as the A300 in the video but I don’t know for sure
@80Demitri
@80Demitri 9 ай бұрын
My father has the same with no issues at all....I really wonder how much more relaible/durable the blink system is vs the original? Seems like hype to me to be honest
@leochavez640
@leochavez640 Жыл бұрын
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