Does it works? Netflix video said that the first fraud, Nikolas bought an Italian design. Now, is Nikolas motor legit? California thought it us last November.

By the way, the fuel cell system that Nikola installs is provided by Bosch.

@@brianb-p6586source?

Dude…not accurate: “The Italian truckmaker and Nikola had formed the joint venture in 2019 to help Iveco, then part of CNH Industrial (CNHI.MI)…” and “The two companies will continue to share and develop certain common technologies, while Iveco will remain an important partner and key supplier to Nikola, they added.” In other words, the two companies brought their individual tech and manufacturing capabilities together, via a Joint Venture, and made the truck shown here.

The marking blurb is all correct,@@zefrum3 - it just doesn't mention that Nikola has no technical capabilities and their manufacturing capability is just that assembly plant. Nikola Motor buys the fuel cell system from Bosch, and gets the battery from the company which they bought for that purpose, and Iveco supplies everything else... even the electric motors. If you buy a pickup truck from Ford and bolted some big wheels and tires on it in your driveway, you could say that you and Ford "brought their individual tech and manufacturing capabilities together, via a Joint Venture, and made the truck". Yes, you're Nikola in this analogy.

It removes the skill needed to drive a large tractor trailer so the roadways will become more dangerous because ppl who are not skilled enough will be able to get down the road! They are known as steering wheel holders! The Automatic transmission in trucks started this process! Not good I promise!

BOSCH POWERTRAIN EXPERTS

ignorace thinking. or i can say brainless. @@theglitch99

​@@theglitch99what? This is some hillbilly logic. I have no idea how skill has anything to do with this or how this truck does anything except improve working conditions. You're the only one that likes the sound of your Jake brake going off at 75 mph.

@@jer280 Seems we have a lot of rednecks/hillbillies on this channel for some reason. 😲I don't drive at all, being from the San Francisco Bay Area, but if I were to drive, it would be battery or hydrogen, definitely. We'll have to see how solid state batteries go. If they give us 500 miles on a truck like this while hauling, maybe we never need h2 for trucks. Still need it for trains, aircraft, ships, heavy construction equipment, etc. 🙂

Make some youtube shorts. If NIkola allows you to take and post em. I wanna see some content.

Isn't the owner still in prison?

Hey. How's it going ? Does the company seem to be progressing?

There is some progress and commitment to the customer base. I'm still there four months later, so things are looking good

@@kennethney4260the ex ceo is in prison but he is no longer part of the company

Nikola have - 250% profit on every truck sold. Nikola bankrupt january 2024

@@mikafiltenborg7572You know you can be in trouble for lending out false information

Coca Cola wouldn't be stupid enough to buy trucks that burns up itself and cost more damage to the company

​@@mikafiltenborg7572Tesla bag holder, competition is good for business

@@mikafiltenborg7572 You mean 250% loss? Because profit doesn't sound like bankruptcy by January. lol

All hydrogen and battery-electric heavy trucks in production look like normal trucks, except the Tesla Semi.

@@brianb-p6586Drag coefficient matters in EV.

Drag coefficient matters in all road vehicles,@@akira28shima32, especially those driven at highway speed... regardless of the energy source. Some battery-electric trucks have better front-end aerodynamics than their diesel equivalents because they don't need as much radiator area, but the fuel cell truck needs _more_ radiator than a diesel. While there may be an aerodynamic performance difference between a cabover and long-nose truck, other factors are typically more important in the choice between the two styles.

@akira28shima32 drag coefficient matters in any highway-speed vehicle, regardless of the energy source. Among the EVs based on conventional trucks, they generally have the same cab as the diesel, but of course they are typically the models with better aero (not the square-hood traditional models, and not the tall-radiator "vocational" variants). A battery-electric truck can have a smaller radiator grill thsb a diesel because less cooling is needed, but that doesn't apply to a fuel cell truck.

why? we already have an electric grid...

@@laloajuria4678 And how much cars/trucks/housholds can that electric gris take, before it collapses. Also have you stopped and think what happens to the batteries after they degrade in 10 years time

Why?

@@user-ex6xh8gy8j we can improve grid - we are good at fixing obvious long term issues. The battery is a problem environmentally, I agree. Maybe recycling is a viable option, but I wonder, too. But hydrogen infrastructure is non-existent, making hydrogen is costly, the fuel cell is a high pressure bomb, and it is dangerous to fill - big pass. Why not stick with propane or diesel vs hydrogen?

@@user-ex6xh8gy8j the electric grid is infinite. thats how progress works. why dont you turn off fox gqp news for once?

With all the hydrogen tanks full it will be equal to 72 gallons of diesel. The cost to equal 1 gallon of diesel is $15 for hydrogen Storage and cost are the limiting factors of hydrogen and no one has made any breakthrough that will change that fact

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Local container and mail loads

The majority of trucks in the US are short haul. Which I think is where electric and/or hydrogen trucks come in.

They have mobile fueling stations too

Last month Mercedes did a 1,000km+ or 620mi+ run with their upcoming hydrogen GenH2 long-haul truck.

@@hankmoody7521it took 190Kg of H2. That would take 2 hours to fill with the current Hydrogen pumping. Ridiculous. And expensive. At the cost of hydrogen in CA for cars it would be 6700 bucks to fill!

yeah, with more of the innovators coming to the working stages now we are faced with the dilemma of how to supply for the needs

I just invested and it seems pretty radd.

Not really. You're failing to account for the fact that battery energy density (both gravimetric and volumetric) is rapidly improving. You will see 750 miles of range for BEV Semis well before 2030 and 1000 by 2035. And this will come with little to no increase in weight. Already next generation batteries with 30% increase in energy density are slated to begin production before the end of 2024. Toyota's new solid-state battery, which offer nearly 50% more range than today's best Li-ion ternary batteries, will be in production by then as well. It's even foolish to think it will stop there. Better batteries will help fuel cell vehicles as well.

@@Tron-Jockey that's what i mean!!

A question. What limits the daily range of your diesel truck? I'll take a guess. You? You can drive for a certain time before a break, then a certain time after that break? . So, if a truck can Outrange YOU up to that break, add range DURING that break, with zero time added to the stop, then complete your maximum drive time with range to spare, then you would say that's sufficient for your needs? . If the vehicle can do that fully loaded, even better? . The Tesla is specifically designed do that (82,000lb GVW) . It can also gain time on gradients compared to your diesel. Let's say you had a total of 10 miles uphill on your first trip. If your diesel was limited to 40 mph due to the gradient, that's a 15 minute climb. If a Tesla can climb that same distance at 60 (with a full load) that's an immediate 5 minute, 5 mile advantage. Even reaching the cruising speed.... Let's say 60 again... 2 minutes? Vs 20 seconds? That's another 1.5 miles at full speed. . Time is money? Back to distance... The Tesla can *average* 60. It has 500 mile range *fully* loaded. If you ran 7 hours at 60, (420 miles) you still have range to spare. You'd need another 4(?) hours range, (240 miles) to complete *your* mileage limit. You still have 80 miles range "in the tank". You need a 160 mile top-up during *your* break. The Tesla can add that range plus more in 30 minutes (300+ miles?) . Next Let's say your going OTR over multiple days. . Where do you charge overnight? I'm waiting for Tesla to produce an adapter, NACS to Megacharge. Then, "build" a drive through lane (just paint!) at certain V3 charge locations. . You pull up at a .... 60+(?) Tesla car charge location. There's nobody there. You're in the "Semi lane". It lines you up with a V3 at the end of a row. You plug your adapter into the truck. You plug the charger into the adapter. Your truck has a facility to limit charge. You set the departure (charge end) time (6am?) 10 hours at 100 kW? It's a nice "trickle charge" for your overnight stop, also providing hookup for your needs. . The network is already there waiting to be expanded as the numbers increase. (Countries like Norway already have this.... They're closing the few Hydrogen stations they had) . The other advantages of straight Battery? (A "Hydrogen" truck IS a "BEV", Just very inefficient) . 1) Simplicity. One system, not 2 like the Hydrogen truck. . 2) Redundancy. The Tesla can outperform a diesel using 1 motor(!) It has 3. It's likely the first you know of a fault is either the truck on the Semi support team telling you. Imagine a call advising that motor 3 had a possible fault, logged automatically by the truck? Having the call centre confirm your route and GVW, then asking if they can meet at your next overnight stop to swap the motor (should take 3 hours).... The support truck arrives and swaps the motor while you eat your evening meal. Meanwhile the truck shows no stress, maybe slightly reduced acceleration, but the faulty motor was completely disengaged, no problem.

It does appear to be a high-roof AS Sleeper cab, even though IVECO offers the S-Way with an AD Short cab. It also appears to be bare, with no mattress so perhaps no refrigerator. Sandy Munro did a test drive and had more comments in his video about what is in the cab behind the seats.

​@@brianb-p6586it has a matrass, its the same collor as the rest

yeah, i mean, v1 of any new tech is never going to have everything. Are there things about this truck that excite you?

@@russella90 I'm a huge supporter of hydrogen technology and I'd like to have Nikola reach out to the rank and file OTR driver and let us tell them what we need. The only channels I've seen cover this have nothing to do with the transportation industry so I don't know what kind of information they're getting from people like me with 21 years of over the road experience. But I'd like to see the range over 1000 miles, I'd like to see a driver centered sleeper, I'd like to see how hydrogen technology works in colder climates unlike battery technology that would completely fail, and to have one drive axle with a tag axle on the rear, Eaton Fuller stopped making trucks with that kind of transmission because it's unsafe for drivers. There's a lot of great stuff that's available with hydrogen fuel cells, I am happy to get on board once the technology meets the needs of drivers like me that drive 10,000 miles or more a month.

How many hundreds of gallons of fuel do you burn to drive 1100 miles? The current system is unsustainable. The future of OTR is what you see here.

totally. they should be designing their experience around the people who use it the most. @@JJDrones

@@Dills1995 160 gallons will give you 1100 miles in a 2016 tractor and the newer trucks are even more fuel efficient. The future will be what the drivers will drive. That's just fact. As the trucks stand now there's not a driver that would drive that long term over the road. We live in our trucks for weeks at a time and it's a home on wheels, if you'd deal with that God bless you, but no one I know would 😂

funny as i personally see the opposite .. the majority of people is hating nikola .. despite the myriad of goals they already acheived .. and despite all the problems ..

This guy... you own a tesla huh

Don't forget about the lies of their past with the con artist Trevor Milton to steal from Nikola's investors....I don't forget. I only hope to one day break back even, but not holding my breath! Just holding Nikola stocks....

@@patgee81they haven’t achieved 💩! What are you even talking about. Show me this thing carrying a 40 ton load 1100 miles in 24 miles.

@@twothbeaveyou clearly do not know poo on startups

also H2 combustion engine will come - since it is a good bridging technology and wouldnt ruin millions of jobs/lifes/savings/mortgages

I'm afraid there will be nothing easy about building out hydrogen fueling stations. Hydrogen storage is very expensive as it is kept under extreme pressure (5,000 to 10,000 psi) and is the smallest molecule, so leakage is inevitable, no matter how good your seals are. Production of Hydrogen is another problem as most of what we have now is extracted from natural gas and is a fairly energy intensive process. Beyond that, electrolysis of water uses even more power. By the time you add up all of the difficulties in production, storage and transport, it is marginally cheaper than diesel, but not anywhere close to the cost and efficiency of battery electric. Electricity is ubiquitous, so it is far easier to build charging stations. All that said, I wouldn't trust Nikola as far as I could throw that truck... The company was founded by a fraud and felon currently serving 20 years in prison...

@@gregkelly2145 good to know, that does sway my opinion of it.

Can't get passed the thought of the Hindenburg whenever I hear about Hydrogen vehicles...

@@TaigaTurf 😅 well, at least their not filling the cab with the stuff!

That's actually a requirement for heavy trucks. All of them have it.

I see they're still using all the little electronic features to distract from the fact that they haven't actually made a single technological breakthrough...

Why?

@@bartwaggoner2000 The main reason for me is that it has the best of both worlds in my eyes. We have the speed of refueling, which straight electric can't beat yet. There is also the fact that hydrogen is abundant where lithium and the rest aren't as. This reduces the battery requirement and transitions it to something better, in my opinion. If people are trying to move away from diesel and gas then this is a better transition item than all battery electric. Again, this is just my opinion. It's all dependent on the infrastructure to work for any change in the tech.

@@maedre45you are obviously completely clueless on how hydrogen is currently made, how much it cost to make and for it to actually be green it will cost even more. Its a complete waste of energy and is physically impossible to ever be cheaper than BEV. Trucking companies only care about the bottom line, making hydrogen DOA. Btw, lithium is way more abundant then you realize and it can be recycled at the end of the batteries life. Its a no brainer for anyone the cares about total cost of ownership.

It is moronic. Hydrogen takes 5x the energy so the fuel alone is 5x the cost EXCLUDING the added cost of building I hydrogen station which is 10x the cost of a fast charging station. The truck and the station will also require several times the maintenance. It's a garbage idea that exist to milk subsidies.

Been doing this for years in Japan

I've been driving a truck now with the rear tag axle on it, and in the winter time the truck is horrible in slippery conditions. Eaton Fuller quit making the transmissions with the tag axle for trucks because of the lack of safety.

I drive a large truck with tag axle. We call it a lazy axle here in Australia. There is a button on the dash which allows me to dump the air from the air bags on the lazy axle if I need to. I use it when going over an uneven surface where drive axle traction becomes a problem.

Manual control of a lift axle on a truck is not legal in some areas, @@kelvinhill9874 , because driver's can't be trusted to use it properly.

We won’t talk about that cause it’s only 750,000 f that bs

Why so much? Body of semi already was made by another company, right? Is Nikola motor legit? That's the question 🤔. If it is and it works, make more a lot more....now the price should be stabled.

They could easily lift road weight limits

Everyone in Europe has this style. This truck is an IVECO S-Way, a regular production model in Europe (but of course it normally comes with a diesel engine).

@@brianb-p6586 i mean Volvo has the hydrogen style

okay, @@ericreid8111, "format" would normally mean physical form, and you were talking about cabovers. Yes, most major manufacturers have at least played with hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. None, including Volvo, has successfully gone into production with hydrogen fuel cell heavy trucks, as far as I have seen (I checked the Volvo Trucks website), although there are fuel cell buses.

@@brianb-p6586 ok

The companies "DNR" has already been signed.

Yeah awesome for more steering wheel holders to watch only fans while driving, honestly very common. We mop wrecks up for this all the time.

They have it in allmost all newer trucks. Automatic drive shaft disconect to lower RPM of the engine to idle range while going down hill. When you press your brake and need to stop, it will reconnect and use engine to slow down allong with your breaks... or if you use your engine brake... etc

You said the "B" word. That's the issue. It's a BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLE. Just a very inefficient one.

Not necessarily.

They also named it after a convicted con artist. "Tre".

These two don’t get it obviously.

Calling the company Nikola is corny.. jumping on the Tesla name is cheesy AF

@@panamaJI like it

They do. You think they Are Amateurs and dont do their homework Right?

@deluexemusic9172 one would think that, but I worked with engineers that spent $40k+ on "rare earth magnets" to magnetize to an aluminum floor................. I have a mechanical design engineering degree, and even I won't think of everything.

@@20smgreen thats why there is not working only one person. Its a big crew.

Yes, all electric and hybrid vehicles use regenerative braking.

That would only increase the range if the trailer also carried more fuel, which would not work (due to the problems of making a fuel hose connection) unless the trailer also had it's own fuel cell stack. By that point, you have duplicated every expensive part of the truck.

How would more motors increase range?

Never, sell stocks ASAP.. this hydrogen tech will never ever be successful

@@user-lo3sr2pp5d 😱😱☺️☺️😭😭

Compounding? Yes, regen is as powerful as a compression-release ("jake") brake, but because this has only one drive axle all of that braking is on that one axle.

For a daycab 500 miles would be fine. They usually are dedicated to short runs like local and regional runs. They typically are either returning to their home terminal or running terminal to terminal so if the fueling is established at the terminals it will work. It's probably worth noting that there is also no network of gigawatt chargers, which would be required for EV trucks. Either way a network has to be built.

​@@1guyin10Gigawatt chargers will be considerably cheaper than a hydrogen filling station and the running cost for a BEV will be much lower.

Unfortunately, drivers will lose money moving to the fcev right now. Hydrogen production and distribution is substantially more expensive than diesel. If that roadblock can be fixed the pendulum may swing the other way. Right now though, the price difference is massive.

It's hydrogen . You don't use the battery unless you're out of hydrogen

Look up hydrogen fuel cell to answer your own question.

@@shiftymcgee9359 who the hell asked for your opinion!!!

Hydrogen makes even LESS sense in Europe due to the speed and drive time restrictions. A Tesla could Outrange a driver easily.

Yes, it's an IVECO S-Way... and that's the whole cab and chassis (without engine), not just the cab.

The truck will presumably be rated for the usual axle capacities to max out the US federal highway weight allowances, which are 12,000 pounds front axle, 34,000 pounds for the tandem rear set, and 80,000 pounds gross combination weight... plus a 2,000 pound extra allowance because it is an alternative fuel vehicle.

It wont sell in europe ...i think they even closed their joint factory with iveco in germany...that partnership is over

@@Xv1p3rCr0 the IVECO - Nikola joint venture at Ulm Germany was terminated... and IVECO will be building this truck in Germany and selling it in Europe themselves. IVECO is still a "partner" of Nikola, meaning a supplier... of the entire glider (can and chassis without power source).

It shares the iveco truck cab and some other Stellantis components.

We plan to do this soon.

@@TFLtruck yes I heard that at the end after typing this. I will look forward to that. I would love to hear what they think about refueling, are they involved or is that up to the customers. Also the 500 mile range sounded like it was under ideal conditions. Would they consider adding range, to me it should be a simple question of adding a bigger fuel tank, all the people against non-diesel trucks use range as an argument. It could be laid to rest if they could offer longer range, even if nobody needs or wants it in real life.

@@TFLtruck Who will be providing the hydrogen for your tests?

He changed the subject pretty fast when asked about the range..."up to 500 miles"....look how easy it is to steer....

@@JH-je2yn I don't think there is a standard way of measuring range for a class 8 truck like there is for passenger cars. So it is reasonable to say up to 500 miles with a full load. Range depends on load weight, driving speed, elevation gain, weather conditions, etc.

Let’s go!

There is currently no way to GET hydrogen that doesnt involve using a lot more energy. Unless you convert hydrocarbons like natural gas, which still does the pollution. If it isnt cheaper, and it isnt better for the environment, then whats the point?

@@natehill8069emissions and air quality. There’s always going to be a naysayer. Many more see the benefits of hydrogen, even from natural gas, over diesel or an excessively large lithium battery pack.

​@@natehill8069the big difference is hydrogen doesn't require rare minerals mining. A hydrogen fuel station can be ininstalled in a regular gas station. In just a few years there are going to be millions of batteries in need of replacement. Where are they going to go? There are only 1-2 lithium recycling plants in the U.S and lithium/cobalt is 100% recyclable yet.

@@herbwheeler4470 Lithium batteries don’t have rare earth minerals. The motors however typically have neodymium, which is a rare earth mineral. And is used for both electric and hydrogen vehicles.

@@natehill8069 Yes, there no way around this problem. Now if we ever get fusion energy working. Then Electric could become so cheap that electrolysis of water might make sense.

Cab over was mandated due to federal length restrictions. When the rule changed, cabovers went away.

A fuel cell is always fed hydrogen gas, even if the hydrogen is carried on the vehicle as a liquid. Like every other practical hydrogen-fueled road vehicle, this truck carries the hydrogen as very high pressure compressed gas, not liquid.

Most people commenting here do not even know hydrogen must be produced ; not to mention compressed, transported, and then distributed. At the end of the day, you need 3 to 5 more electricity when driving hydrogen. This technology has no future for ground transportation, even for trains.

You would only need to refuel the hydrogen, not the battery. The battery is charged with regen breaking and I think energy from the fuel cell as well.

Edison Motors has not implemented fuel cells, and knows nothing about them. And Edison, which has only built one prototype, is not the first to build a hybrid logging truck; I don't know how many companies have, but Sisu builds them in Finland.

The old CEO is gone; the company continues. The battery-electric version is in production; the fuel cell version has not been delivered yet.

@@brianb-p6586 ok, so it’s not gonna happen then. Still a shit scam company.

Be careful when you suggest this as a viable alternative to EVs. This is a Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle (HVCV) which has the same drivetrain as an electric vehicle. HFCV's even require a fairly large Li-ion battery that acts as a buffer for the output of the fuel cell.

@@Tron-Jockey You are correct. In comparison to EVs, I meant mainly in terms of refueling. An EV takes hours to recharge, whereas a hydrogen vehicle can fill up in a matter of minutes, much like a regular car. I seem to recall that a hydrogen vehicle would also have more range, and more reliable range (that is to say, the range degradation while under load would be less pronounced than in an EV).

@@MultiPurposeReviewer "an EV takes hours to Charge" Errr... No

@@rogerstarkey5390 Uhh, yes. If you need to fill up any significant amount, it's gonna take at least an hour at a fast charger, far more at home. Hydrogen can fuel from empty to full in a couple minutes.

​@@MultiPurposeReviewerI have never taken anywhere near one hour to charge at a Tesla Supercharger. Where are you getting your information from?