Considering a test with towing almost 4 tonnes,with a 4 cylinder turbo,this truck is more than capable. Well done Ranger
@DUI5MSN Жыл бұрын
Better than a Tacoma
@jasonbrushett2005 Жыл бұрын
@@DUI5MSN I agree with you 100%
@tskraj3190 Жыл бұрын
@@DUI5MSN Aren't the Tacomas available with a 3.5L V6 and a 3:91 or a 4:30 gear ratio?
@kiplambel4052 Жыл бұрын
@@tskraj3190 yes, and a lower tow rating
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
@@tskraj3190 yep, but that motor still can’t do it.
@DillonPrecisionFan Жыл бұрын
You need to make the milage loops longer so you have to fill up with more fuel. The difference/error in pump shutoff with small quantities of fuel increase the error in your results. If a pump can vary 0.5 gallons between different top offs on 2.0 gallons, then you have a big error. If it varies by 0.5 gallons on 15 gallons of fill up, you have automatically reduced the error's impact on your result. 0.5 of 2.0 is 25%. 0.5 of 15 is 3.3%.
@AkioWasRight Жыл бұрын
I mainly question the accuracy of the pump's number. The trip computer and the pump are so far off each other, which also happened in the Ram towing mirror test. For the Ranger, 14.2mpg is almost 30% better than the trip, way, way off. I think the problem is the vapor or overflow shutoff. Because of temperature or how much vapor is in the tank, the thing is giving erroneous results. They need to test the pump multiple times, with everything else being equal.
@DillonPrecisionFan Жыл бұрын
@@AkioWasRight agreed, the pump shutoff is the biggest variable. The waiting 30 seconds is a good idea. They might also consider using a lower pump setting to reducing any foaming or high flow of air/vapors leaving the tank. The easiest way to minimize the error is use more fuel.
@becomingabetterhuman.2994 Жыл бұрын
They should pump in to a container with a scale first then add to the vehicles tank.
@JogBird Жыл бұрын
these tests are for entertainment only, i dont take them seriously
@dundonrl Жыл бұрын
@@JogBird They are better than just a guess!
@braedenbarnes5073 Жыл бұрын
I used to own a 2019 ranger lariat fx4. i towed my 5400lb travel trailer with it for 2 summers in the colorado mountains. i averaged about 10 mpg based on the trip meter. overall i loved everything about the truck and it was more then capable in the towing aspect. traded it in for a 2022 2.7L turbo silverado. needed more cab space for a carseat and 2 dogs. im excited to compare the 2.7L single turbo to the 2.3L single turbo while towing my camper this summer. you guys made an awesome decision on buying that ranger! DO NOT GET RID OF IT!! i think i had a tear in my eye when i had to leave it on the chevy lot.. love the videos!
@SkinnySkinch Жыл бұрын
Why did you go silverado over the F150 with the 2.7 or 3.5 ecoboost?
@kevinortiz1210 Жыл бұрын
@@SkinnySkinch probably couldn’t afford a f150
@toddstarrett3846 Жыл бұрын
@@SkinnySkinch Probably couldn’t find one for sale 🤷♂️
@toddstarrett3846 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinortiz1210 The price is negligible between a Chevy and a Ford with Both starting around $45,000.
@TermlessHGW Жыл бұрын
Interior on the Ranger is a disgrace.
@JPjaybird Жыл бұрын
One of the best things is with the ranger tremor version you get a full leaf pack and fox shocks and you do not lose any towing or payload. All other off road versions of mid size trucks lose a lot of numbers with the off road versions.
@Obamastucks10128Ай бұрын
You lose 500 pounds for each. Just because the shocks are softer.
@northernidahooutdoors374827 күн бұрын
@@Obamastucks10128negative. The Ranger Tremor is still rated for 7500lbs… It actually probably tows better than a regular Ranger with the stiffer suspension..
@chainsawcanuck Жыл бұрын
I have a 21 ranger after watching tfl reviews, downsized from a 19 fx4 f350, but absolutely love the ranger, we tow a 5000lb camper I the mountains of Alberta and the ranger handles it with ease When I bought truck I got the dealer to throw in the ford accessory TBC because that was a must. Keep up the great work tfl
@Cheeseburger81315 күн бұрын
Alberta Mountain arent so crazy some decent hills but isnt like coming down into kamloops and onto the cochaulla
@MichaelGalletly Жыл бұрын
I yank a 6,400lb camper trailer all over the Rockies with my '19 Ranger with little difficulty. Ford has a trailer brake controller that you can get installed at the dealership or install yourself. It's a rebadged Redarc unit and it works very well.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Probably plug and play, at least that's how the brake controller install was in my 08 Toyota Tundra. Simply wired the pigtail plug onto the controller, ran the wire under the dash over to the driver side kick panel and plugged it in...then simply screwed the brake controller onto under the dash where I wanted it.
@ctechbob Жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c It's not quite plug and play, but it is not a bad install. You do have to run a wire to the 3rd brake light, but that's a minor annoyance to be able to have automatic emergency braking on the trailer. It's just how that particular kit is set up. Took me around an hour install time.
@Sheepleton Жыл бұрын
My 19 Ranger was a beast, I never maxxed it out but it never felt taxed. Great trucks I just needed something bigger for our new camper.
@jimjacobson4797 Жыл бұрын
I have a '19 Ranger with 50,000 miles. I tow a couple of times per year, about 4,000 pounds for 560 miles one way MPG is about 14-15 for the distance in the mountains of WY and UT. As others have stated, a slow fill rate allows significantly more fuel. From first shut-off it is typical to add about 1 1/2 more gallons. Truck handles the tow very well and is particularly impressive in its hill climbing ability.
@jimsomerville3924 Жыл бұрын
Do you find the really small gas tank annoying for range?
@jimjacobson4797 Жыл бұрын
@@jimsomerville3924 I do several trips a year of 1,000 miles. On those trips, adding another 1 1/2 gallons after that first shut-off makes a difference. At 60-65 I'll get 26-27 and at 80 (UT, WY, SD) MPG drops to 24-25. My main requirement for tank size is that it's bigger than my bladder, and at my age, it is. Only when I'm traveling do I allow the tank to drop below 5/8s - 3/4 anyway. Locally, when I pass a station, I'll top off. I live 30 miles from the nearest town. Going to town for shopping spoils a half a day regardless, so even tho the limit is 70, I'll drive 60-65, relax, and enjoy the trip. I live half way between Pinedale and Jackson, a main thorough fare for Yellowstone. The cops are thick on that road so I'll let the Colorado speeders on their way to the Park blow by me at 85-95 on the two lane. Very few are close to the limit it seems.
@tigerfn84 Жыл бұрын
How does it handle while braking in UT? I live in OH and travel many times through "hill country" of WV and braking is a huge concern. Thanks
@jimjacobson4797 Жыл бұрын
@@tigerfn84 Mike, you are concerned about the hills, specifically downhill. Not a problem, just - as always - use caution when towing and look ahead. As you are aware, the longer your tow, the more "in tune" you get with the tow you have. The Ranger is no different.and first hour or so you are more cautious than later and quickly understand the limits of the tow.
@tigerfn84 Жыл бұрын
@@jimjacobson4797 thanks for the info. I have a 2002 Toyota Tundra and have been pulling my 5,000 travel trailer for 7 years. It does fine, but I will soon be in the market for a new truck. The way the market is, new/used full size trucks are outrageous. I love the Tacoma and they will soon be competing with the Rangers engine and turbo. Just doing some research and reading reviews (like yours). Thanks for sharing!
@FierceMotorworks Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the comparison videos throughout the year with Chevy, Toyota, and the new Ranger. For towing tests, please keep the trailer, bronco, and road route the same as this video so people don't complain about getting different data.
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
They have to sell the Bronco. It’s too old in the fleet. They can always do a second towing video with the Ranger in it.
@adamharris2674 Жыл бұрын
Weeeeel the Gas Cheby and the Taco are not even capable of towing this weight so....
@climberjevans Жыл бұрын
@@adamharris2674 The towing difference between the Chevy Colorado and the Ranger is only 500 lbs.
@adamharris2674 Жыл бұрын
@@climberjevans I guess nothing gets past you. Correct so that means the Chevy’s not gonna be towing this 7300 pound load..
@climberjevans Жыл бұрын
@@adamharris2674 I've had a fair amount of towing experience and I don't think it's wise to be towing at a vehicles rated capacity. My $0.02.
@UABFWSS Жыл бұрын
Nice. Got a new Ranger last year. Had a few Tacomas previously, over like two decades. The Ranger is at a whole different level of power and towing ability, love it.
@Van_Liberty Жыл бұрын
Andre, I think your mileage results may be more accurate if you use the lowest fill rate lock when filling up and topping off. The slower you fill and top off is probably a better method. This was recommended to me by a fuel deliver truck driver.
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
This makes a lot of good sense.
@Wesley-je2fn Жыл бұрын
Slower filling and longer test route. The issue is the shutoff at the nozzle can be erratic.
@specialopsdave Жыл бұрын
Fast fill, 30 second wait, top off as slow as possible, or at 1 notch on the pump if going for consistency
@willbenner3 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and longer trips for more accuracy.
@LotsOfPaypa Жыл бұрын
This is like hall a gallon discrepancy that doesn’t matter in my book. Unless you are that broke then by all means do what you gotta do…
@ericneal1872 Жыл бұрын
I tow near max with my '19 Ranger semi-regularly and I'm mind boggled at how good it does. Way over expectations.
@KarileeT Жыл бұрын
I just got a 2019 and I’ll be towing a 4500 trailer this summer- what brake controller do you recommend?
@ericneal1872 Жыл бұрын
@@KarileeT I can't really recommend to you anything because I haven't tried multiple ones to decide what is best, and I don't know what your particular situation is. I can tell you that I got the Curt Echo which requires no physical installation, can be used in multiple vehicles if you tow with more than one, or can even go with the trailer if you lend it to someone who will tow it but doesn't have a brake controller. For me, I didn't want to drill holes, splice wires, or do permanent installation. I find that it works perfectly for me and would 100% get it again if I had it to do over.
@KarileeT Жыл бұрын
@@ericneal1872 thanks for your reply and for the info, much appreciated!
@tylerray1728 Жыл бұрын
This gets me excited for when I do start towing with my Ranger. 14MPG at full trailer load is very good! Especially for what it is.
@soteriology4005 ай бұрын
Not bad, full size trucks might get 6 mpg.
@jaykanngiesser3454 Жыл бұрын
I towed a lot near max GCWR of my ‘17 diesel Colorado. It worked very well but had to be driven as a small truck carrying a large load. I did have to re-bearing the rear differential at 80,000 miles. Oil changed regularly so perhaps lubrication failure. No other driveline issues.
@alanj7306 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always liked the Rangers. They’re just some solid little trucks. I wish they still had the 4.0 V6. That was such a great engine in my ‘98. Personally, I wouldn’t tow more than 5k, but that Ranger did great for being maxed out. It definitely surprised me.
@SantanKGhey1234 Жыл бұрын
the 3L and 4L were underpowered junk... had both, unreliable
@adamharris2674 Жыл бұрын
1996 called and said you need to move on..
@jimsomerville3924 Жыл бұрын
The lack of hp in the 4 liter really held it back.
@stevens6293 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 Sport trac with 4.0 and it is a dog pulling my 3500lb center console boat. I'm looking to upgrade soon.
@poppyneese1811 Жыл бұрын
The lil Ranger with the turbo 4 surprised me, I think very few of the Rangers will ever tow this much, but good they can.
@Brandon_Nelson92 Жыл бұрын
I used to own diesel pickups until my dad bought a 2015 3.5 ecoboost f150. I borrowed his truck to tow 9k lbs and was blown away with how well it did. I ended up selling my 1999 f250 7.3 and buying a new 2019 3.5 f150. That "little" v6 pulls heavy trailers up hills faster/better than my previous tuned 5.9 cummins or tuned 7.3. There's a LOT of people out there with diesel pickups that could get by with an ecoboost f150 or even a ranger. They tow like diesels at a much lower price and without the emissions-related headaches, more expensive fuel and DEF.
@joshkiej6601 Жыл бұрын
pretty common in europe to tow this weight with a ranger, rangers have been capable of towing that weight here for over a decade.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@joshkiej6601 Unlike the US the Ranger left our market after 2012. So, when it left the US market in 2012, Rangers had a max tow capacity of around 6000lbs....and that was pushing the 4L V6 hard. The new ones honestly aren't rated much better and with a tiny 4 cylinder in them, they won't last long pulling at max capacity, which you should never do in the first place, but people do it all the time unfortunately.
@shooter-vx7xy Жыл бұрын
My 2020 Ranger is great and has handled everything I've given it, even when it was above and beyond what the truck was meant for.
@rivirme Жыл бұрын
A longer test would seem to be more accurate to offset variables in the short-run tests, from the pump to wind direction and velocity, pump variables, etc.
@TB-dj8kl Жыл бұрын
Fullsize trucks are nice but today's midsized trucks aren't that bad. Of course what you buy depends on your needs. But alot of people overdo it when buying a truck thinking that they will need the added capability. I had the same thinking years ago. I've had a midsized truck now for 7 years now, first midsized truck after having a 1/2 ton gas and 2-3/4 gas and diesel trucks years prior. I towed and hauled things as much as I could with them. When I first bought my gmc canyon I was worried that I didn't buy enough truck. The heaviest I tow now is around 3,500 pounds of wet mulch 3 times a year. Then a 2,400 pound camper 4 or 5 times a year and during the summer weekly 1,600 pounds. I miss the v8 sound and the diesel clatter with bigger interior room but I got over it. The costs savings out weighed the wants verses what I actually needed. I did add a borla exhaust and the loudest k&n intake. Under a load the intake makes truck sound like its a V8 which made the truck more fun. I enjoy the the mpgs, 22 to 24 mpgs around town (rural area), 19 to 20 with the camper, 16 to 17 with a loaded utility trailer. The highest road trip mpg was 35.1 mpgs. When towing sometimes I wish I had a little more torque, so I had to change my driving a little bit by accelerating alot earlier before approaching a hill towing, but all and all I'm happy with what todays midsized truck offer and do.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
If you aren't towing heavy, there's no need for an HD truck, but when you are towing at close to the max a lot, its time to get a bigger truck...that occasional trip across town to the dump with a max load is fine, maybe, but on a long trip out of town/out of state, absolutely taking lives into account being close to or over the truck's capacity.....if you are max towing 3500lbs occasionally with a mid-size truck that's extremely reasonable for the vehicle and certainly isn't going to tax it, you'll know its back there, but ain't gonna hurt anything. Many people buying HD trucks are buying them as a status symbol to show off they ain't towing anything.
@fuji302 Жыл бұрын
I’ve done some towing with my Ranger and I have no complaints. I prefer towing with it over our 02 super duty at work.
@MichaelDabish Жыл бұрын
I have a 21 Ranger. I towed over max (aprox. 8k LBs) payload 500 miles from upper MIchigan to Detroit. I got the same avrage MPG as you found. I too was also shocked.
@kl-eu7iq Жыл бұрын
Finally, a video that I can get behind. I have had my 19 ranger since early 2020 and I tow a 21 foot boat and have no issues with visibility out of my mirrors. I’m glad they did not put ridiculously oversize mirrors on a midsize truck considering midsize trucks are not for hauling huge loads. Also, any truck is going to have complications with acceleration off the starting line with the max allowed amount of weight behind it. Lastly, I would sell the hummer EV and use that money for things that people actually care about unlike electric vehicles.
@JonBecker81 Жыл бұрын
I tow a travel trailer with my ranger and I have clip on mirrors. They help TREMENDOUSLY.
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
I have been saying sell the Avalanche as well while they can get a great price as that high end market is changing. I don’t care if they get an electric vehicle if it’s different or setting a new standard. They have to consider the fact there’s potentially 2 more mid size trucks to buy and 2 new HD trucks coming this year!! Be nice to se a 1 ton HD truck instead of 3/4 tons.
@Jv19979 Жыл бұрын
I bet that looks funny behind the ranger
@ControlNode Жыл бұрын
The mirrors and how well you see around a trailer is really dependent on the trailer you are pulling. If I'm pulling my open car trailer I can fine with the standard mirrors. If I put an RV or enclosed behind me, and I don't see far enough behind the trailer to meet SC laws. Put a couple of suction cup tow mirrors on there and I'm good to go.
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
@@ControlNode - exactly!! I’m old enough to remember the bug mirrors you clipped on the fenders of your vehicle. Then those would work themselves loose and go tumbling down the highway!! Heh heh. There are quite a few options now for mirrors that are much nicer.
@nlken7175 Жыл бұрын
Like to see TFL tow cargo trailer's in comparison's. Camper's and cargo trailers put so much drag on a vehicle. MPG difference vs flat deck trailer's.
@riccochet704 Жыл бұрын
Most certainly there would be a difference. I get about 4-5 MPG better towing my bass boat versus my utility trailer.
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
Yeah was kinda hoping they would have tried to tow that camper that they used with the Hummer EV.
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
@@riccochet704 a boat is generally very aerodynamic, especially if you have a tarp over it as well. Flat front cargo trailers are not very aerodynamic pat all!😂😂. I bet there’s a big difference!! I don’t even look at flat front trailers anymore. It’s so cheap and easy in most cases to get a V-nose trailer that greatly reduces the frontal area. About 40% due to better aerodynamics. I had a 31 foot travel trailer and replaced it with a shorter, lighter trailer, yet didn’t see a change in fuel economy towing because the new shorter trailer was the traditional front end. The reason for going smaller was for access in remote areas. I had hoped I would gain at least 1 mpg, but nope! 😂.
@mjeanneau Жыл бұрын
I towed a 5x8 uhaul loaded to the hilt from MD to NH (510 miles @ 70 mph avg) in my '19 ranger and got 19 mpg
@BeanoNoir Жыл бұрын
They are some pretty long boy mirrors considering that's an 8.5 ft wide trailer and the body of the truck is only 5.5 ft wide. I can also say that even with a shackle lift, that technically reduces effective spring rate, I've noticed very little sag when towing. In fact, the truck drives better laden than not. I would upgrade the rear shocks universally on these Rangers though. The stock ones are a horrible choice for rebound stiffness considering how stiff the rear spring is. They are always overwhelmed. Pop some 5100s back there for a relatively easy and cheap upgrade. It's like night and day.
@ronaldking1054 Жыл бұрын
You might want to make the efficiency test consistent in terms of reporting a number. The trailer changed, but this is a given as TFLTruck changes its fleet often, but you could at least pick the route to be similar to other tests that were set up for range. This does allow variables such as wind to be involved and drag, but at least elevation and road condition would be similar. The infamous Lightning test route for the 80 miles would be more meaningful. Yes, the trailer would be different, and the weight was a little different as well, but the efficiency number would be comparable to more people. The speed should be similar.
@joshkiej6601 Жыл бұрын
exactly. It should be like the 60mile loop they do, with a set trailer and trailer weight per class. The numbers in these videos aren't really comparable as of now
@bigj200016 Жыл бұрын
I use a Curt Echo brake controller on my 19 Ranger. It plugs into the trucks 7 way socket and then the trailer plug goes into that. Moveable between vehicles and Bluetooths to your phone for manual brake applications.
@KarileeT Жыл бұрын
How has the controller held up? I was thinking of getting it but it has some bad reviews, falling apart…
@bigj200016 Жыл бұрын
Only used it twice. Works so far
@christopherlesage5995 Жыл бұрын
I tow a 29' 5300 lbs camper with my 19 Ranger. It does pretty good.
@KarileeT Жыл бұрын
What do you use for a brake controller? Do you use anti sway or a weight distribution hitch?
@christopherlesage5995 Жыл бұрын
@@KarileeT I had a brake controller installed in my truck. A primus IQ proportional controller. I definitely use a wdh. I think it's a husky. Don't quote me on the brand. Works really well. Never had a problem with stability.
@KarileeT Жыл бұрын
@@christopherlesage5995 thanks for your reply.
@ghilliemanreviews Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard a lot of good things on the Ranger. It’s probably the best tower for mid sized trucks. It seems to be an overall good selection. Also never heard anything bad about their reliability. Australians know how to design a truck. Hopefully the next gen is the same
@freedom24v86 Жыл бұрын
It helps that its rated about 1k-1.5k less then its euro/aussie/asian markets in the usa so its absolutely overbuilt for its "max" here lol
@AkioWasRight Жыл бұрын
Again, I question the accuracy of the pump. 14.17 mpg is almost 30% better than the what the trip computer said. Just like in your Ram mirror test, the numbers were so far off the trip computer's estimate. Either these trucks are way off, or the pumps are. You need to test the pump several times, with everything else being the same.
@TFLtruck Жыл бұрын
We use this fueling station often. This is the real world.
@AkioWasRight Жыл бұрын
@@TFLtruck Would TFL be willing to do a video just testing the pump? It's as easy and "real-world" as any mileage testing you've been doing.
@Encourageable Жыл бұрын
@@AkioWasRightthis isn’t “The Fast Lane Gas Station”
@AkioWasRight Жыл бұрын
@@Encourageable It's still relevant. If the pumps are off, then their testing of trucks are off.
@YZBot Жыл бұрын
The pumps are accurate, they are required to be by law and are checked regularly. You just can't be certain the pump always stops in the same way every fill. Regardless of how you may try to pump it the same way. Fluids in motion can be very chaotic, and can stop the pump at different times. You kind of need to run the same route multiple times and average out the fuel stops to get a more accurate result. I can't fault them for not wanting to do that. That's a lot of work. The trip fuel meter is probably the most accurate over time.
@Motorkid98 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how good Andre’s English is after 9 years of TFL Truck.
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
So many complaints about not having a brake controller. It’s a very easy install to put a quality hard wired brake controller in the Ranger. You can mount it anywhere you feel is comfortable for yourself as well. The braking aspects of the controller will be as good as the factory ones,,, even better if you really go expensive. There will be no integration with the computer in the truck though. It’s not such a big deal. Ford has one they recommended that’s a bit expensive, but quite obscure so it doesn’t stand out and integrates well. You have multiple mounting locations as well. It’s a nice feature and I would prefer it be an integrated unit, but it’s definitely not a deal breaker. The aftermarket ones actuate, set gain, etc the same as factory ones. Get proportional units though, not timed.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
There is a factory brake controller if you go through the online configurator in the towing/recovery section its a $339 option.
@machfive916 Жыл бұрын
Very good video. The Ranger was pretty impressive when towing, especially the 14+ MPG. However, nothing will ever eclipse Andre's H2 0-60 test of 35.77 seconds when towing his boat.
@cdesigns222 Жыл бұрын
I towed my 4500lbs RV the other day for the first time and it felt good, going uphill with ease. I used to tow with my 2018 Pathfinder and CVT tranny V6, it was similar and the pathfinder pulled good. Harder to park the trailer due to having a bigger wheelbase 126" vs 114"compared to the pathfinder but other than that, works great
@cdesigns222 Жыл бұрын
Got about 18mpg pulling those 4500lbs but Im also tuned with intake, bigger intercooler, exhaust.
@johnm.g.4705 Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on installing a brake controller on the Ranger.
@M9A1MAN Жыл бұрын
I have that exact truck, but a 2021. Been an awesome truck. Towed a car from NV to CA and no problem. Couldn't even tell it was back there
@KenMcGeachy Жыл бұрын
That squat that "surprised" you would be pretty dependent on the tongue weight of the trailer (and how your load is set on the trailer).
@Ekishounen Жыл бұрын
A few points to add: 1.) 2019 Ranger and 2024 Ranger will use the same power plant so test results shoud be comparable. 2.) Mid-size trucks tow occasionally where daily towing would use a larger truck. Being able to tow 3+ tons safely is good. It does not need a diesel's efficiency or more cylinders. 3.) Next-gen trucks will likely also be 4-cyl turbo, except maybe Nissan. 4.) 14 mpg seems too good because reducing cylinder count does not reduce the energy needed to pull a load. The turbo helps more fuel burn by giving the engine more air. It is similar to towing with an electric or hybrid. 5.) Can you retest with 87 octane 10% ethanol? That is what I use.
@ControlNode Жыл бұрын
On 5: Ford recommends 91+ while towing, so it's not advisable to use a lower octane while towing. Since I wanted to be able to tow at a moment's notice if a friend's car broke down without worrying about burning off gas so I could refill with 91+, I just ran premium all the time. Then, I got the Ford Performance tune that requires 91+ all the time anyway.
@B86432 Жыл бұрын
bring back Mr. Truck!!!
@bunnyfartloads Жыл бұрын
Great video Andre. Love how Mr know it all Roman wasn’t in it. My New Year’s resolution is to only watch TFL videos without Roman in it.
@joshuaallswang8016 Жыл бұрын
Haha🤣💯
@anengineer_ Жыл бұрын
Hey Andre, what's going on with Mr Truck, why don't you do videos with him anymore? Regards 👍
@mrcnorth7149 Жыл бұрын
Add the old Tacoma as well to your baseline as it should hopefully improve alot with the new model
@jeffk464 Жыл бұрын
There's going to be a new Ranger, Canyon, Tacoma, even a new Dakota. Its pretty crazy. I like the idea of the Tacoma hybrid, have to see if it actually returns good mpg's. Toyota definitely needs to come up to the performance of the Ranger/Canyon, I'm pretty sure they will.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@jeffk464 Dakota = Dodge/Ram version of the Ford Maverick....it ain't gonna be the Dakota we all want :(.
@BReal-10EC Жыл бұрын
Ecoboost is surprisingly good at towing. I towed a car (Camry) on a tow dolly like 65 miles a few weeks ago with my 18 RCSB 2wd 2.7 F150- I filled up and reset the trip computer before leaving, then refilled again after dropped off the car. I got 17.4 mpg! Holy smokes that's good imo. I expected like 10. But I guess my 4100 lbs truck with 4100 lbs of towing wasn't really THAT much weight compared to what you did in this video.
@monark323 Жыл бұрын
I have icon leaf springs with Eibach coilovers. I tow my Canam max with camping gear with no issues up the CAJON Pass (SoCal). It’s a great truck.
@romeo1550 Жыл бұрын
I was guessing around 18 seconds. Not to bad considering the final results. I really do like the Ranger. However, a V6 option like the 2.7 or the 3.0 would be nice.
@rustbucket9318 Жыл бұрын
Or even the 3.5 like they did with the explorer ST. That would be a spicy combo that I would love to have.
@garys2157 Жыл бұрын
@Rust bucket 93 The previous Explorer used the 3.5, and they cut the torque back from the F150, the current St uses the 3.0, versions in the Bronco Raptor and the Ranger Raptor. The 3.5 does not fit the Ranger, but I wonder if they would offer the 2.7 as a option, as it available in the Bronco that way.
@nickmartinez990 Жыл бұрын
@@rustbucket9318 ST has a 3.0
@tonyc7435 Жыл бұрын
I had the 3.0 in my Explorer ST... great motor. I'd buy a Ranger if they would throw that motor in it.
@garys2157 Жыл бұрын
@@tonyc7435 If you can get the next Ranger Raptor when it comes to N.A., then should be able to get the 3.0, they way Ford is going with the Ranger it could be two years from now.
@pryme2013 Жыл бұрын
7,500lbs behind that truck seems excessive. I certainly wouldn’t want to be in front of that set up during a emergency brake in traffic. It’s not about being able to physically move the load it’s how it handles and stops it in less than ideal conditions.
@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Жыл бұрын
I tow my 7k pound dump trailer with my 22 ranger and the Ford brake controller is amazing. It auto adjusts the gain based on motion and will stop the exact same at any speed as long as you have properly sized brakes in good working condition on your trailer and it's loaded properly. Really amazed me by how smart the factory controller is and how easy it is to have the blind spot monitor adjust once you have entered the length the first hookup.
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel if OEMs validate with J2807, which includes handling and braking, it means there's a good bit of assurance it'll be fine if you adhere to all their requirements (frontal area, weight balance etc).
@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DP This truck reminds me of my 1998 f250 light duty in size, capacity, and how it tows. That one had a crummy brake controller and you always had to fiddle with it plus the tranny was terrible when towing. My Ranger tows much better and gets better mpg towing but could use a larger fuel tank.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Unfortunately you can't beat that through people's heads...until they kill someone and are on trial for vehicular manslaughter for being overloaded.
@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c The biggest problem Is most people don't spend the money on a good equalizer hitch and many set them up wrong when you get over 5k pounds along with poor Maintenance of the trailer braking system.
@davva360 Жыл бұрын
Personally don't like to tow more than 5000 pounds with a mid size truck. It did a decent job but I would imagine cross winds would impact this truck pretty badly if you had a slab sided trailer.
@gregrowe1168 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention it just beats the hell out of it. Yes it can do it but don’t expect it to last if you abuse it like this often. It’s just not meant for a workload like this.
@jonsmith398 Жыл бұрын
we have the same truck it pulls ok but not good at stopping anything heavy on a trailer just replaced it with a 23 f 150 stx 3.5 what a tow monster
@cnelson3225 Жыл бұрын
Looks like it'd be a good rig for a small camper, large boat, ATVs etc. Good little machine for occasional towing, not sure I'd want to do it regularly though.
@SergeantBowls Жыл бұрын
Great to see videos with the Ranger as always! I love my '21 so far, but the numbers on the new Colorado are making me wonder...I hope the next gen Ranger can exceed (Hopefully with a hybrid!) Either way, looking forward to seeing some more testing!
@iann.8088 Жыл бұрын
Too bad GM makes you pay up for the better tune on the same motor to get those numbers.
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
@@iann.8088 everyone is doing that these days, think Ram was the first to market a HO for an extra cost but Ford and GM quickly found out the profitability there. Ford even has a performance tune for this Ranger that bumps power and torque pretty decently.
@iann.8088 Жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DP For sure, but Ford has the same performance on the Ranger across all trim levels. GM is charging multiple thousands of dollars for a tune based on your trim level. Just seems super scummy to me.
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
@@iann.8088 yup just the world today. Given how Ford has the FR performance tune for the Ranger currently, and with the Colorado doing this, I expect the new Ranger to have a similar setup when it comes out. Ford and Ram already charge $2500 or so for their HO HD diesels, and Jeep has the HO Hurricane that once in the 1500 will likely have a similar scheme.
@iann.8088 Жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DP I think they might make a bigger offer of their in house tune being available rather than tie a tune to a trim level. Having the same performance for fleet/work trucks is a big selling point. The new Colorado work/fleet truck now has worse specs than the equivalent Ranger.
@AaronDBuzzz Жыл бұрын
Wow, just saw you use the Demco coupler at 2:50, now I'm new to the channel, but I didn't realize Demco was that universal, I live right next to the company in small town Iowa. Fun to see a local company like Demco repped on the channel!
@democede Жыл бұрын
Had a 2021 XLT FX4, towed a 28 foot camper with it, 6k lbs dry. Pretty sure overloaded when it was full, but towed great with a weight distribution hitch. Mine had transmission and electrical issues ford couldnt fix though
@TazawaTanks Жыл бұрын
55 degrees with 5555 on the odometer, at the 5:00 mark. 😅
@robertryan7204 Жыл бұрын
Towing 5000 lbs at 70 miles an hour with a Ranger is pretty well the norm in many parts of Australia differences is diesel rather than petrol/ gas
@usmarinekenny Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what the weight rating of the trailer you’re using is, but I’d like to add that a lot of people tend to get confused when they buy trailers in the fact that they look at the sticker on it and it says 7,000 Lbs or 10,000 Lbs but that doesn’t mean you can put 7,000 Lbs or 10,000 Lbs on it for weight. The trailer weight without anything on it isn’t subtracted from that number, so if you have dual 3500 Lbs axles which would be for a 7,000 Lbs trailer you need to subtract the empty trailer weight from that and also for the 10,000 Lbs trailer which has two 5,000 Lbs axles. And if I heard you right and assuming you have a 7,000 Lbs rated trailer and the empty weight is 2,000 Lbs that leaves you with 5,000 Lbs of usable capacity. And we all know a few hundred pounds like in your scenario won’t too much be a problem. But there are some that would put 7000-8000 Lbs on one like that and wonder why the wheel bearings wear prematurely. I love the video content y’all put out keep it up. I just wanted to throw some info out there for those who weren’t aware of those details.
@Obamastucks10128Ай бұрын
I used my 21 ranger to tow a 16 foot trailer with a tracked auger. The auger alone was 10,000 pounds. It drove a little slow but nothing crazy. Definitely didn't go above 6th or 7th gear.
@TheCarpCommander Жыл бұрын
Anytime someone says “unladen” all I can think about is the air velocity of a swallow.
@TruckerMike089 Жыл бұрын
I like the Ranger a lot to the point of wanting one. I think it's dumb that GM and the Jeep offer integrated trailer brake controllers but Ford doesn't with theirs. Aside from that I love the payload and just all around capability of the Ranger compared to the competition.
@jadenantal1652 Жыл бұрын
Yea ranger seems more utilitarian than the other midsize trucks, but sucks about tbc, f150 has a pretty good one
@TruckerMike089 Жыл бұрын
@@jadenantal1652 I like the setup in the F150. It's really done well and it blows my mind the Ranger doesn't have it stock. They are cool little trucks though and makes me want one.
@jadenantal1652 Жыл бұрын
@@TruckerMike089 my buddy has one and it's a great truck, tows a ~4500lb travel trailer better than my 13 f150, like night and day difference, 10 speed is awesome too no matter what it's in
@jeffk464 Жыл бұрын
@@TruckerMike089 It would be cool if the Ranger was aluminium like the F150.
@TruckerMike089 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffk464 I like that it isn't.
@ddnmd Жыл бұрын
I had a 2019 XLT FX4 fully loaded. Loved the truck, it did everything I wanted. BUT, the transmission was a headache! Not mechanical, electrical. It would not shift into lower gears at low speed, it stumbled, couldn't find the right gear. Took it 3 times to dealer to get reflashed, the 4th time it had to be towed to dealership. That was last straw. Ford couldn't figure the problem out. Truck was under warranty still, didn't pay anything. Traded truck in. I actually miss it. Got 28 mpg on highway, 22 around town.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Too many damn gears. A 5 or 6 speed is plenty. If you want a 10 speed buy a semi-truck.
@ddnmd Жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c funny, I just read a news post and it says the worst ranger to buy is the 2019!
@jeffg8142 Жыл бұрын
Suspension squat and sway is a reality. Notice the heavy duty truck use a goose neck trailer. This places weigh further forward on the truck to carry more on all the axels. Same idea with semi tractor trailer combos
@ctechbob Жыл бұрын
Put the Ranger up against your shorty Pentastar Ram in a towing test.
@michaelcochran8611 Жыл бұрын
The towing capability is very impressive. But I am curious how the Ranger would handle a cargo or travel trailer.
@ajmedeiros77 Жыл бұрын
That’s one of the reasons to get a full size truck if you’re towing a boxy wind sail of a trailer lol.
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
The trailer set up here has a lot of drag as well, especially as speed grows. A travel trailer is definitely a boxy trailer. The cargo trailers are very easy to get as V-nose trailers which reduce frontal area by about a 40% equivalent due to better aerodynamics.
@thegladnick Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 Ranger XLT Sport 4x4. I regularly tow a full dump trailer (~6500 lbs) through the mountains of New Mexico. I have no issues up steep inclines and the Rangers Sway assist handles the 50 mph winds like a champ. Also no issues on the gravel state highways. My only complaint is that I bought a cheap wireless brake controller. There's that 1/4 second delay from the truck braking to the trailer braking. It's no issue out here, but in the city I could see that being nerve-racking.
@michaelcochran8611 Жыл бұрын
@@thegladnick thank you!
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
@@thegladnick - if you can at all afford it, the best thing you could do is switch to a progressive brake controller vs the timed one. There is a big difference. Good to see you are using the truck,,,, as a truck!!
@rick7439 Жыл бұрын
Now you have to do a super Ike with that weight and please do a moderate Ike towing with the gladiator with 4-5,000 lbs for us with a gladiator that just want to pull a smaller trailer as it was meant to do
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Would be cool if they could do that test and time it right so they could get their hands on both a Gladiator 3.6L and a Gladiator 3.0L Diesel.
@bryanlorang417 Жыл бұрын
I miss the Ike Gauntlet testes.
@Julian-do7bv Жыл бұрын
Id would say there isnt a Sinclair near the ike and they gotta get that sponsorship money
@pryme2013 Жыл бұрын
Are they not doing them anymore? That’s why I subbed.
@bwaller1974 Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's because of the traffic on I-70 these days. I've lived in Colorado for years and with the influx in population in the past 5 years or so the traffic in some areas is horrendous. Kinda hard to do a timed tow test in bumper to bumper traffic all the way to the Eisenhower tunnel.
@jeffk464 Жыл бұрын
There have been lots of snow storms moving through the area. Its probably best to stay off it, especially when towing.
@fishinfool63 Жыл бұрын
Think about this…the ranger is 2 times better than a 70s full size….the economy might be over 15mpg without 2 drag race runs….tough truck period
@ranig2848 Жыл бұрын
MPG on highway is mostly impacted by aerodynamics. Performance is too due to drag. Would be great to see mpg and performance on highway with a travel trailer with a large front wall (acting much like a parachute)
@Execu_tech Жыл бұрын
5s everywhere! 55 degrees, 5555 miles. $55 in gas. Time to hit the casino! 5:05
@esteban8681 Жыл бұрын
Yo for real, i was looking for this comment. 😂😂
@Ben24636 Жыл бұрын
Those are shocking results I'm even more happy with my truck now
@thomasfields2082 Жыл бұрын
should be 35 at cold on the tires. i call shenanigan's. the best thing about the ranger is that the bas comes with te same drive train as the tremor. so my xl 4 door has the same interior room and more payload and i saved 20+ grand.
@Malc664 Жыл бұрын
Andre must be excited for his new Colorado after this.
@ms1406 Жыл бұрын
Makes me miss my ranger
@ActionJackson2360 Жыл бұрын
The ranger does come with a factory installed brake controller and it's easy to install yourself with forscan. You have to have a pc based computer/tablet. They give you so many days without paying for the subscription. I have the bbfly Bluetooth obd 2 adapter which works well with forscan.
@ControlNode Жыл бұрын
There is no NA factory installed brake controller option for the Ranger, just the dealer installed option. Also, installing the Ford authorized controller does not require any flashing or updates to the truck that I could find in the install instructions for it, so no idea why you needed forscan.
@mas921 Жыл бұрын
Great numbers, can wait for the new ranger!! But just don't expect the same towing MPG towing an enclosed trailer, bronco is no sports car but its more aerodynamic than a wall (the trailers face) :p
@spyder000069 Жыл бұрын
I found the opposite. Smaller displacement didn't help in my testing a couple of years ago when I first bought my 2019 F250 with the 6.2 gas and the 4.30 rear end gears versus my 2007 F150 5.4 with 3.73 gears pulling an enclosed trailer with my chevy spark in it (about 5500 lbs total). Over a 100 mile identical loop with both trucks the F250 was within 50 cents worth of fuel compared to the F150. My F150 was meticulously maintained and was in great running condition but at 70mph with the wind resistance of the trailer the smaller 5.4 was going through the fuel. Very surprising especially since the f250 has the deep 4.30 gear ratio and is much heavier. Also the f250 drove like it was just another day while the f150 (no weight distribution bars being used) could feel the wind shifting the trailer a bit and the expansion joints in the road did give a little waterbed bounce. The f150 was still very capable pulling the trailer but there was considerable seat of your pants difference compared to the f250. So my opinion is if its not going to be a daily driver and is primarily a tow rig then don't under buy. The safety is worth more than any pennies you will pinch at the pump. If its a daily driver too then you will have to decide if its reasonable to go with the smaller truck. The F250 in my opinion is a pain to deal with the wide turning radius (crew cab /6.5ft bed) and the shrinking parking lot spacing. I have a small ecosport for my daily though so it works out.
@savagejoego Жыл бұрын
Andre: "This is the year of the midsize pickup truck" Me seeing dealership in background with all fullsize pickup trucks. 🤣
@robertyoung8289 Жыл бұрын
You guys have been sucking wind lately but you redeemed yourself with this video!!
@richardcampbell8685 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 Ranger and love it. Plan on adding the new one to the fleet.
@freedomstar3814 Жыл бұрын
Ford should put the 2.7 ecoboost as an option in the newer Ranger. I know the ST is suppose to have the 3.0 ecoboost .... but the 2.7 ecoboost has been a good motor for Ford.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
The Ranger Tremor has the 3L Ecoboost.
@theoutdoordad73955 ай бұрын
Small gas tank is rough for range, particularly when towing. Good video!
@ctvxlАй бұрын
If you are routinely towing 7000+ lbs, then you really should have a bigger truck. But if you need to tow that much only on a rare occasion, then the Ranger is fine for that. I have a 21 Tremor and it is a great all rounder. I tow a light trailer with it (about 2500lbs max most of the time) and you can't even tell it is back there. Tows it effortlessly. The off road suspension makes it MUCH smoother than a standard Ranger and thus a better daily driver IMO. It does get a few less mpg on the highway due to the tires, but worth it for the better ride IMO.
@JFlogerzi Жыл бұрын
I love my ranger. The power train and transmission is up to the task.
@The_Hi_Life Жыл бұрын
Honestly can’t hardly wait for the new gmc canyons! 99% sure a black AT4 is gonna be my next ride.
@ryanfillmore Жыл бұрын
Very impressed by the Ranger, that turbo 2.3L did way better than I thought it would do. Ford need to develop a Ranger sized towing mirror, non-extendable mirrors on trucks is stupid.
@jerrygundrum1 Жыл бұрын
Sitting here watching this, I wonder how safe it is to haul that load with that light of a tow vehicle. Good thing most pick ups are only used like mini vans back in the early 2000s
@desertfresh3740 Жыл бұрын
I towed a 4500# trailer behind my Ranger and spun a rod coming down into Silverthorne at 78,000 miles.
@tdub2888 Жыл бұрын
Love the video although I have to say I cringe when you brake torque with a trailer hooked up.
@decremadenip1626 Жыл бұрын
Love my ranger! I had other larger trucks that would struggle with that weight.
@deanmay338 Жыл бұрын
Great decision to add the Ranger to your fleet. I am trying to decide over the next couple of years whether to go mid-size or full-size to tow a small camper (2,900 lbs). The Ranger has been a benchmark midsize truck since 2019 in terms of towing and payload. Looking forward to learning from your testing and how the new mid-size offerings will compare to the Ranger.
@paul0008ws Жыл бұрын
55 degrees 5555 miles 55 dlls for gas and 5500 lbs towing 55 baby
@Chris-ut6eq Жыл бұрын
No mention of speeds peak or average so 14mpg means what then? also how much start/stop over this short distance?
@Jay-me7gw Жыл бұрын
Something I find incredibly odd with the Ranger is that its weight carrying tongue weight(not using a weight distribution hitch) is 750 lbs while the F150 is 500 lbs. I dont understand this considering how much longer the F150's wheelbase is.
@LilDiabloRob Жыл бұрын
Wait?! Why is premium $3.67 a gallon (at the time of this comment)? In my state it’s $4.49 a gallon? I genuinely hate this state. 😒😒😒
@joemattes8389 Жыл бұрын
Better than expected
@ugafan1779 Жыл бұрын
Wow. The Ranger is quite a beast and impressive for a four banger. I would be very curious what kind of numbers you would get with a travel trailer such as a 22' Grand Design or similar around 5200lb dry weight. I am in the market for a new truck but considering how expensive they have gotten I may just hold on to my Ram for some time but perhaps something like a Ranger with 7000lb+ towing could work for our 22' Jayco. Also, we are from Georgia (GO DAWGS!) but enjoy seeing Longmont, CO where our daughter lives!
@JFlogerzi Жыл бұрын
Not great. Travel trailers are giant bricks. They are not very aerodynamic 🤣
@technicallyreal Жыл бұрын
I tow a Jayco 264BH with my 19' Ranger Lariat and an Andersen no-sway hitch. Does really well! 4800 lbs dry and just under 25' box length. Wouldn't want to go cross country with a wind sail this big on a truck this small but it's quite comfortable ride on the trips we take it on :)
@ctechbob Жыл бұрын
You'd get around 10-13 depending on the roads and speed you travel. We pull a 26DJSE with our Ranger and at 65-70 we're in the 10-12 MPG range. Slower, 2 lane roads, will get that figure up a little. Pulling in the N GA mountains, it will drop again, but I've never seen less than 10 so far. You can't fight physics, these travel trailers are like toting around a giant parachute.
@fastfirstgen Жыл бұрын
Like the results but as a Ford owner you’ll learn at around a 100k a lot of parts start failing.
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
With these turbo engines its typically around the 50k mark or sooner if people are doing extended oil/filter change intervals.
@nathanielbarbeau4821 Жыл бұрын
I tow my car on a uhaul trailer every PCS move my family does. I manage 18mpg Highway. Around town the trip computer usually says 16.6mpg. I enjoy the turbocharger a lot in S driving mode.
@noelcahill6707 Жыл бұрын
Britain and ireland the ranger is 2ltr diesel or 3.2 diesel the all new ranger is 3ltr v6 diesel
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
They've always had diesel engines in other countries, nothing new. The Ranger was available with a diesel in the US back in the mid to late 80's but they were so gutless like the 4 cylinder engines were nobody wanted them. Thing was they'd get almost 50mpg back then, just didn't have enough power to get out of its own way on flat ground. They had I think a 2L and a 2.3L Perkins diesel in them back then.
@noelcahill6707 Жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c the diesels we have here are made by peugeot and ford we would use petrol engine here in jeeps or trucks like that ud need to be married to a arab to run them to be fair even the diesel ford cars and vans we had in the 90s there engines u would find in a tractor they were useless
@noelcahill6707 Жыл бұрын
Them eco boost engines dont have a great name either
@michaelgonzalez4863 Жыл бұрын
@tfltruck you guys should try the same test with the ford performance calibration kit which includes a air filter and a computer calibration tool. You guys already run the truck on premium fuel. So you should try it out and run the same test again for comparison. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
@mjeanneau Жыл бұрын
I should add that the hp/torque numbers are higher when using hi test gasoline....
@kirk0respite Жыл бұрын
Love my 22 ranger so much torque for what it is can’t imagine how that next gen will be with the optional diesel has 100 more lbs torque!
@Jv19979 Жыл бұрын
They really coming out with a diesel ranger?
@jeffk464 Жыл бұрын
@@Jv19979 I haven't heard that, maybe in a different market. GM did away with their little diesel in the Canyon. I guess people didn't want to pony up the extra cash for it.
@Jv19979 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffk464 yeah probably in Europe they still get rangers with manual transmission
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@Jv19979 Not in the US market. The Ranger has always had a diesel engine in other markets as well as a manual transmission.
@BURNZ2ACRISP Жыл бұрын
People should always check their mileage at the pump instead of using their dash to tell them. The 7 vehicles I've had have ALL been incorrect on the dash. The computer just calculates what you "should" be getting based on the miles you went at the speed you went. I always set my trip to zero every single time I fill up and check how many miles I've went on that tank. My current Ram always says I'm getting about 13.5-14.5 and realistically I've been consistently getting 17.2 on ally tanks when I'm not towing. Don't let the dash tell you you're mileage. Same goes for what range you have left on the tank.
@robynbudgeon7355 Жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for thank you.
@remembermorrison Жыл бұрын
I had a Ranger and loved it. You all should try the Ford Performance Tune!