That was my same guess. Something was drawing more than the trickle charger could provide. And FYI, if the battery really did get drained that low, it's toast. I wouldn't rely on it long term, it's not going to last or hold much of a charge. It may say 12-13V but put a load on it and it'll dip way down.

@@ytmadpoo yeah I agree, at 3.2 volts the battery is absolutely degraded. If I were Andre I’d still want it replaced under warranty. Once it gets cold it may leave him stranded again.

I flashed a couple of car computers at Nissan that went wrong. For some reason the flashing process doesn't always go right. Usually flashing it again solved the problem. This was a while ago though, over the air computer updates seem like they would be less reliable.

Bingo!

Disconnect the battery and then recharge it with a real charger

I bought a new ram 1500 in 2020, it was a pre-covid production truck and I had nothing but problems in the 2 years that I owned it. I ended up selling it when supply chain issues peaked the market for a profit, because I knew if I was having the kind of issues I had on a brand new truck, I didn't want to own that truck 5-10 years down the line

He needs to trade it in for another new Colorado he should get a ZR2 this one’s a lemon.

Prediction the American highways soon will be looking like Cuba.

@@JoshuaOverman He could also be going from the frying pan into the fire.

Na, GM will give up on firmware updates in about 2 years and then all this bullshit is history.

For the most part, they buy, and own their vehicles. They aren't beholden to the vehicle manufacturers to hype up, and advertise, and help sell more cars. Most You Tube reviewers know that anything critical will result in no more cars, and no more luxury vacations courtesy of press release vehicles.

Here's what is happening: Your truck is not going to sleep and the current draw when it is awake exceeds the pittance that your trickle charger provides, so the battery suffers. You need to keep it on a proper charger until the dealership fixes it. I suspect that your damaged backup camera is part of the problem, but let GM figure that one out.

Wow a truck that’s less than 11 months old with no issues??? Incredible testament to build quality

@@Tropicalfrooploops :P

Or better yet anyone with a 23 Colorado, take that thing back.

Grow up! All new ideas and electronic devices come with bugs. It is something anyone with a PC knows about and realizes that it will always be an issue. GM like the other automakers know that they will eventually solve these things. NASA has the same issue with its space program. No code is ever error-free.@@imhann98

This is really the answer. I've disabled auto updates, and so far have had zero issues.

Thank you! This is what I was thinking as well. I will do it.

Good luck...

IKR. No other manufacture has ever had these problems. cough

@@bryane2857uh yeah the korean cars do

Why should this surprise, Mary Barra, CEO of Government Motors only made 29 million last year. This would set me off like a rocket ship considering I am thirty-three miles one-way from the closest dealership. No more GMs, and definitely no more AUDI'! Still waiting for the Dodge Dakota, the best truck I ever owned! I just noticed this truck has a Prop Rod? At that kind of money, a Prop Rod?

Lol

Hey, at least they don't pay their employees either.

It's always an issue until it isn't. Overall it's always been for the better.. before it was something as simple as electric windows and a/c and that's pretty basic now. Narrow minded people love to live in the past.

Electronics aren't the issue, it's the lack of quality control of every modern vehicle. It's how these companies make their money. The vehicles will only last until the next revision.

EV’s are way less complicated. That’s why the unions are scared- less parts on an EV means less union jobs.

Certainly less parts but WAY MORE software. Even here it’s not a parts problem. It’s a software update issue. EVs are worse when it comes to software.

@@is6566 doesn’t have to be way more software though. A company could easily make a basic electric car without AI driving or a giant iPad on the dash. The rise of software in cars is independent of the propulsion system.

When charging Ford batteries the negative is supposed to be connected to a certain spot so the computer knows its being charged from an outside source. Gotta love battery monitoring systems!

And a more aggressive charger would help as well

That's good and well, but it's a brand new truck! He should not be messing around with battery chargers whatsoever!!!!!

Exactly, he needs a better smart charger. A fully dead battery won't charge back with a basic charger. Had the same issue with my motorcycle, it was in storage during the winter season and the battery was completely dead. My small charger didn't do the job but my smart battery charger did the job. This issue is terrible, imagine if you were on the road far from home. They need to fix all the bugs. Until then, Toyota sells Tacoma's 😂👍

Agree, in this scenario disconnect battery from truck, charge battery, hook up battery with full charge while still keeping the charger hooked up. How many times can you fully deplete this type of battery without major damage?

I would argue this is more software engineer but still embarrassing I remember my spark having a silimair issue back in 2020 bought it 19 The radio wouldn't shut off after shutting the car off and exiting the vehicle, which is what is supposed to happen They are supposed to shut off after 15 min or when the drivers door is open when the key is removed It took them a month to fix the bug So this isn't a one-off issue with Gm computers and their software updates After the bug fix, I've had no issues with it draining.

It’s been like this for a long time. Ford had issues too.

Remember if they ever want to shut down your vehicle, they can by live update. This is why people are buying Toyotas. No control.

that engineer must be a diversity hire

More likely the programmers. Most programmers who are called "software engineers" do not have engineering degrees. But I also blame the buying public. Most people buying a new truck want sophisticated features and will pay for them. Carmakers provide them because they profit from them.

Just design a off switch for the updates they shouldn't need so many unless they have built in faults as standard

Agreed. That way you "throw it in the gutter and go buy another".

People who like to complain about electric cars talk about how delicate the electronics are. They seem to overlook the fact that ICE cars are just as complicated today.

All the new tech is centred around health and safety and environmental reasons ,most of the control tech wouldn't be there if emissions control wasn't such a big thing

We already barely can fix our phones and TVs. So they basically became disposable… I personally prefer mechanical stuff. Had several 90s cars and want to move even earlier to the 80s. Most modern car bells and whistles are totally unnecessary and designs are just dreadful…

GM needs to make it right for everybody.. quality control matters

Not just for me - for all owners who are affected by this.

I’m shocked they aren’t bending over backwards for you, do they know who you are? Good grief!

@@davidjoseph7142 Agreed. even if Andre wasnt Andre they still should have sent a tow truck immediately once they were told the truck was broken down. Sounds like the dealer is asleep at the wheel.

Well. This happened to mine. Gm sent a tow. Took forever, Dealer took the truck, did the fix that GM said and replaced my battery and got me back my truck after full inspection of all electronics. New truck, Stuff happens, they finally fixed what the diagnose as the root problem. @@legrandechene3734

I have a friend with a new Silverado zr2… in the last six months the engine has been replaced bc it seized up after 15k miles, then after waiting a month for the new engine it had a massive fuel leak (supposedly unrelated according to the dealer). Now I’m the last two weeks his truck bricked itself 3hrs away from home with his entire family in tow. Wouldn’t restart, open the bed, anything. Is back with the dealer who is ringing in an engineer bc they don’t know wtf is going on

Ford is having a similar problem with the 2023 super dutys as well.

It’s happing with all 3 brands. The more stupid electronics the more problems! They just rush and push this crap out.

It’s just a lemon can happen with any vehicle any year always had. My grandmas 2007 Colorado was a lemon.

@@shanebrown2963nothing to do with the new features new trucks are great they had lemons 20 years ago also

TalisTK is totally right. These new trucks draw more power than older trucks and the trickle charger is not enough to really make a dent in charging the battery. It would be like trying to water your dry lawn with water mist instead of sprinklers. Trickle chargers are meant to keep a battery in optimal condition for longevity. They are not meant to charge a battery from a completely dead condition.

Try a NOCO unit, they have ones that provide 10 amps and above

Yeah, that's exactly what happened. The charger was able to charge the battery when it was isolated (as evident by the alarm going off when he reconnected it) at that point it would have started without the jump pack.

You are correct however, this is very representative of what a average owner would do.

Software updates shouldn't drain the battery. That's a software issue not a need more charge issue.

Right? These guys should know better. At least disconnect the battery or get a larger charger.

​@@elvis7094Maybe, maybe not in terms of the knowing. I don't think it's constructive to shame someone by saying they should "know better." You only know what you know, right? I just wanted to point out that there are more effective battery chargers out there, but that might be all Andre had on hand. If you are a long-time viewer, you've probably seen Andre owns a boat and has a dirt bike ormayve a couple he purchased for his family. This trickle charger is exactly what someone might purchase for those applications, so I'm willing to bet that's what Andre had that smaller charger for and not to use for quick charging car batteries. Let's be honest, car batteries don't generally need to be charged unless your vehicle isn't able to keep them charged, you have a parasitic draw, or you don't drive it but once or twice a year. That's just not the case for the majority of car owners. Anyway, I wasn't intending to shame Andre for using this charger. Just though the info could be helpful noy just to him, but others. Cheers!

Exactly, get a real battery charger. If the battery wont hold a charge it sulfated and its toast.

@@aaronbehindbars then don’t have an automotive related KZfaq channel. Someone’s going to see this and purchase a trickle charger thinking that’s what’s going to take to charge a dead car battery overnight. And he acknowledged something was draining the battery so wouldn’t one think to disconnect the battery before charging? It’s like pissing in a bottle with a hole in it. So, yeah, they should know better. But what the hell do I know? KZfaq ain’t paying me.

​​@@elvis7094He's a journalist, not an electrical engineer or mechanic. He works for the company that has the youtube channel. Like I said, that's probably the charger he had...make due withbwhat you have. Furthermore, it sounds like the parasitic draw was from the OTA updates, so until that battery reached sufficient voltage to power whatever data connection (4G I'm guessing), there wouldn't be any parasitic draw to suck away all of the charger's input. That little charger did eventually get the job done since the truck came back to life before he plugged in the booster pack. Also note he did have the battery disco'd while charging. The whole point of the video was not to be a how-to on rebooting a bricked vehucle, but anbupdate to the issues he's been having with an all new vehicle.

Came here to say the same thing. That battery is now pooched. With a proper battery charger (not a little trickle charger that is meant to keep it topped up only) once it is fully charged it might keep enough charge for a day or two but that’s it. Will deplete very quickly from now on.

Yep Once it dies it’s never the same

of course it will

GM does not care if the loan has been paid, only if they can find a reason for the warranty to be expired, be it time, distance, or some other reason they concoct.

Yeah, talk to Mercedes and Tesla about that one. I think they missed that memo too... Edit: Oh yeah Honda too. What a wonderful, consumer-friendly world we live in...

“DRM” Digital Rights Management. We don’t fully own our vehicles. Ever.

Dealerships should be sued out of existence. They are crap.

Right and yet manufacturers keep increasing the pricing if their new vehicles while quality is decreasing. People (buyers) need to be smarter and appreciate older models more than new ones.

You speak of vehicles which required a tuneup every 6 months and would only last about 100,000 miles if you were lucky! lol

They should include a motorcycle or at least an E bike in the bed so you can get around when the truck is dead.

f For what it's worth. my brother has a company truck 2022 or 23 Ram classic 1500. It has left him stranded in his driveway with a dead battery many times. Don't buy a car/truck from covid era.

@@TastyTunesRock did you just blame the production union for r&d issues? How does your own ass taste?

In fact as i type this my brothers truck is at the dealership once again for a dead battery. He went out of town and parked at a parking garage near O hare airport only to come back to a dead truck. And yes I told him to get a jump pack and he has used it many times in his driveway and this parking lot. Service writer is already blaming it on the Back Flip bed cover for not letting the tailgate to close all the way. He claims the electric switch is confused by the tailgatgate not closing completely. @@ThomasJeffersonIII

In 2022, I saw "spy photos" of the 2023 Canyon/Colorado, and in the article, they mentioned the computer updates. I didn't like the idea of the dealership being able to change engine or transmission settings without my permission or approval. Maybe you can change the settings to only update with the approval of the vehicle owner. However, with Tesla, they don't ask the customer for permission or approval, and I am worried that all car manufacturers will take the decision away from the vehicle owner. I decided to buy a 2016 Canyon because it didn't have cylinder deactivation. The cylinder deactivation or Displacement On Demand technology was forced on customers because the car manufacturers said it was better. Now, there are aftermarket companies manufacturing DOD removal kits to allow customers to remove the cylinder deactivation that many people don't want. I also plan to build a custom dash so I can install analog gauges and remove both the multi-function screen and the infotainment screen. I will also need to replace the wiring harness with an aftermarket harness to remove all the annoying "computer interference" when I am driving. A truck should be reliable FIRST, then you can add luxury items or new technology.

This truck was only 40k

@@NWI_Steel Oh! Well that makes it all better

Yeah thats freaking insane. My SR5 Tacoma has radar cruise control, Blind spot monitoring, Lane departure warning, Duel climate, auto high beam, and push to start. SR5 is not even the high trim model.

It was ordered without Cruise control. Which is one of the dumbest things anyone could do if they are ordering a new vehicle.

@@chrisgill7824 But why is that even possible 😂 ALL tacomas come with cruise control. Most modern vehicles do. Thats been a standard feature for like a decade.

What issues with the Mustang. They are working some issues at the factory, which is expected with a new product. Only issue I've heard of since launch is mismatched seats.

@@kennetho5393 Saw multiple reels on Instagram of people stuck at gas stations after trying to drive away. Put the vehicle in drive and everything dies, vehicle shuts off.

its the american way, they will never learn

Bought a ‘22 Maverick ecoboost. 20,000+ miles and zero issues. 🤷‍♂️

​@@onefastr6Own a 2022 Ford Maverick hybrid, zero issues as well. Good to see another maverick owner out here, we have some solid trucks. What spec is yours? We're rocking an area 51 XLT.

I have a 20 TRD OR...Amazing truck. Maybe the back up camera is not as good as competitors BUT it always works and I can back up to our RV with hardly an issue. I love the 5.7 v8...more than adequate power. No turbos is a huge plus.

Your right about this pre COVID stuff. I had to buy a new Tacoma last year and got a 22 V6. At first it was pretty solid but after about a month or so I started seeing alot of quality control issues. These new Toyotas that are being built in Mexico are just plain sketchy. Luckily Toyota is such a reliable brand , the truck is still running strong but I am not happy at all with quality. Brakes started to pull or be harsh within the first months. Had rodents get into my AC unit and broke the fan first summer, or I bought it with a nest in it. Interior plastic quality is frightening, I bought it with dust and smears under the dish cluster and shift housing. Won't clean. You rub this interior too hard with a soft rag and it scratches somehow, terrible. And as well already less than a year into it, the interior panels are starting to hum and creak. Probably from the harsh braking I told them about, literally loosing up the panels. I was planning on maybe keeping this thing long term, but now I'm just not happy with it. Going to swap it next year for a 4 runner Japan made or something else that I'll have to do research on. These new turbo models coming out I wouldn't touch for awhile. COVID manufacturing is just plain rushed and awful. Imo they stopped building quality vehicles across the board around 2018 or so. With these ridiculous emissions standards and the push to go all EV the manufactures are hollowing out the market they don't care

I traded my 18 TRD Sport Tundra in on a new 21 TRD pro Tundra right before COVID hit. Bought it well under MSRP with 1 mile on it and now it's just a couple hundred from hitting 50k. I definitely plan on it being the last truck I ever buy.

@@rabajdajr3001 imo the best Tacoma was gen 2. I had one. It was excellent. The only issue was antenna hardware and excessively long mud flaps. Also, the front rotors warp easy....so I went with hi performance rotors. The power train is bullet proof.

@@urs6onfuturas975 Same here with my 20 Tundra. It will outlive me

My 03 had been a great truck though the instrument cluster went out which is a common problem for chevy silverado for several years. So now I have no fuel, temp, oil pressure gauge and no speedometer. The blower resister recently went bad so only works on high, actuator for vent control also went out so stuck on defog setting. All are common known problems with early to mid 2000's silverados. In 240,000 miles I've only replaced the alternator once and front wheel bearings. But now with all the electrical stuff going out it's starting to get more expensive to keep. Unfortunately I won't go near any of the newer trucks from any company, too many computers and buying used means at some point they will need replacing as well.

Same. I have an 02 only 120k got alot of life left

310,000 on my 2001 Silverado and it's a beast as well. I love the new trucks but so much technology is in them that anything expensive can go wrong.

I have an '05 with 270,000 miles and still runs great. Yeah, I'm not going to get a new one anytime soon.

The context here being 2001 was a great year for GM and one of the terrible years for Ford. Now, GM quality is abysmal and Ford is doing a lot better. Brand loyalty is absurd and people should buy the best vehicle for them.

😂 that's what they hope for til the next module goes down and it messes up the ac system 😂

@@cormaro13😂 i don’t disagree. I have a feeling the trend will unfortunately continue this direction. Ironically I know quite a few people with Teslas, and they haven’t reported any issues with remote software updates. Maybe it can be done, just not currently with GM.

@@dougburris2066 It's probably hard for GM (and any auto company) to attract and retain quality software engineers. It would be like if Home Depot wanted to hire and retain the best quality artists...clash of culture and values. Automotive companies have not historically been in the tech industry, in a software sense, but now they're trying to be hardware and software companies. Just doesn't fit naturally. Maybe I'm wrong. I did have a friend with a similar experience at Toyota. They were glad to move to a truer "tech" company once they got the chance.

Agreed. That instrument cluster not displaying makes it a hard pass. I want something like that to work 100% of the time. Nobody would put up with a smart phone that doesn't have a working screen.

This is why most don’t want live updates on their vehicles. They can shut you off at anytime.

@@ryanb8736 They've been able to do it through ONStar for years now. Nobody gave a shit then.

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Just browsing the comments and read yours. I literally said the same thing. I did it once and I’ll never do it again! And this was with Mazda. So, even the Japanese aren’t immune.

I waited til 2021 to buy my new ranger. Gave them a couple years to make sure they weren’t junk. New rangers have been really good. 35k miles with no issues. Very happy I went with the ranger and not the slow and uncomfortable Tacoma

Who wants to be a guinea pig to test a manufacture's promise of reliability ? I trusted Ford many years ago and got burned. Never again. So the GM engineers have to figure out a fix. It was their responsibility to find this problem and fix it before the vehicle was released. No wonder Import sales are so high.

@@Pilot545 I waited 2 years to buy my cx30. They worked out most of the issues with it. Ik they had a transmission recall early on too. Dodged a bullet. I hope what you got now is more reliable.

I'd trust some automakers more than others.

Came to say the same thing. Disconnect the negative terminal and charge for a couple hours on a 'dumb' manual charger, not a smart charger with LEDs on it. A manual charger with the analog dial on the front should do. Just don't leave it on for more than a few hours or it could overcharge the battery.

But u wanted that low quality didn't u ? 😂

@@cormaro13 unfortunately that is how it is now with these new vehicles. 😭

I got an update from my dealership, the update was definitely the cause of the battery issues. After they charged it up it seemed to have fixed itself. I just hope this doesn't happen again.

And Mary Barta makes $29M and is complaining about the UAW wanting more money. well when the workers are getting effed this is what you get lol

Yeah, and as much as people dont like it, just buy a 3rd gen Tacoma and dont worry about this nonsense. Less bells and whistles and less specs sure, but wont leave you stranded like this.

​@@tacoponchodoesn't have the power or space for his application

Should trade it for the Colorado ZR2

@@JoshuaOverman ZR2 can't tow as much, same reason I went Z71 on mine.

Or disconnect it and wait 2days to charge

I have a 16 Colorado also, and she's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Cybertruck

Given how many American vehicles are on the lots, the strike is probably a good thing. Nevermind the UAW is asking for ridiculous shit.

Nah. Just imagine all the issues in a year, let alone in a few.

It’s ECU was shut down. Live updates do that.

Be scared be very very scared

Should have went with the new ranger

Ranger is an excellent truck anybody buying a GM product should know better toyota Tacomas are also good trucks

Trade it in man!!

Amen!

It would be better if people didn't need to rely on that & companies just made a decent product.

sounds like a Microsoft approach to security: our software is garbage , so you need anti virus...

GM: keeping battery jumper manufacturers in business since 1985.

lucky you

GM for ya

It's the first year of a new generation of vehicle. Never, ever, buy the first year of a new generation of vehicle. It will take 2-3 years for the manufacturers to fix the quality control issues.

@@imhann98 Right, could have picked up a Toyota tundra and we wouldn't be here making comments.

I love my Stinger GT as well. Never selling it and I hope to still be driving it 20 years from now.

Same. Just got the 23 Tacoma SR5. Love it

22 Tacoma, same here, no issues. I don't expect to see any until at least 10 years.

Wait until the 2024's show up....

@@erics8696 Even the 2024s still don't have all that automatic software bs.

Nobody can hack it through live updates neither. That’s why all IT guys are buying up Toyota trucks.

Nope. Those controls are for the android system. The issue that is killing the batteries is is for the vehicle control modules and isn't displayed or controllable by the customer. You're just at the mercy of gm

@@48dartI just saw on his screen he can disable download updates in the background at 15:50. There’s posting and articles that says disabling this we’ll prevent your battery from being drained.

@phivunguyen83 links? All the reports I've seen from users is that it does not actually prevent it. People just started saying it in hopes that it would. Really spread around during the first round of dead batteries

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