Hey guys. Again thanks for your hard work. I was a backer so I have the Epic version are there any particular requirements for installing the mod manually?

@@Layo81 Nope, just download from here: github.com/Voland163/TFTV If you have questions visit our Discord: discord.gg/Ypt5p5trNx

It's the lack of polish. Feels unfinished at times compared to XCOM. Gameplay and mechanics are miles ahead of XCOM though, so it's in a weird spot

@@mannys7290 Totally agree. So much to love, but it was too unfinished. It feels more like a template for a game system with a proof of concept, rather than a full game itself. A bunch of slapdash systems put together with a coat of finish to make it seem cohesive, but it falls apart quickly under examination. And sadly, mods can only work with what is already there, not add more new elements, which is what the game SORELY needed. Still, I'm interested enough to give it a look. I didn't even get the Khaos or Corruption DLCs because I was disillusioned with things, so it might be neat seeing what the modding team's managed to pull off.

I feel guilty, I was one of the people who encouraged the devs to change the ODI. I'm surely not the only one. You can't blame me, can you? I hope I don't get doxxed for this.

@@markrichards7377 ...No. Don't even kid about something like that. Anyway, I guess it's just a matter of creative design. I liked it one way, others liked it differently. It's just flavor in the end, but this game is all about flavor. It had the right tone with ODI, then I feel like it got watered down by changing it into the Human Population Census instead. I actually liked being able to see the ODI meter going up or down in response to events occurring in the world. A nest being destroyed, or a haven going dark. It gave the world such a dark and Lovecraftian feel.

@@eltsoldier I was also not really able to get into it. For me, one of the big things was that the classes and weapons didn't really feel very different- everything felt a bit bland/homogenous. The faction items/weapons also seems just a bit weird and didn't fit in great. Hopefully the class differentiation in this mod will be better.

Xcom 2 was very overrated imo (even with mods)... Xcom 1 Long war or this are the real contenders

I think JG was quite impressed with the team, putting together this mod

@@OrangeNash hopefully not, but it would be nice to see at least some form of attribution considering they used pretty much their entire song here, and at a glance, I'm not seeing that attribution anywhere up here on this KZfaq presentation.

@@kaelsaxe usage of this song is allowed on YT freely with no copyright restrictions

@@TerrorFromTheVoid Thanks for clarifying. I see there's a credit up there now, which is all I imagine most artists/musicians would ask for. Love the choice of song and will have to try out the new mod. 🙂

Many thanks, I did start yesterday: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zt2fed2ry6-UY2Q.html

@@TerrorFromTheVoid KZfaq не присылал мне уведомление... Пошел смотреть 👍

Well we use that comparison but in fact the mod is very different from LW, it does not make the game longer (probably makes it shorter) and it caters to new players (newcomers with no prior experience with PP will have a good time with TFTV) adding difficulties that are both easier than easiest vanilla difficulty and harder than hardest. The best way to describe this mod is it's trying to make original game complete, polished and more balanced.

@@BelialRus Good to know. It looks promising.

​@@BelialRus I would be so happy if they nerf that absolute BS finally boss

You'll find many changes, for example early game scavengers have a more relevant presence, later Forsaken will appear, and the Pure even later. Also humans have tactics, and Pandorans thanks to Revenants and Void Oments, so they improve over time.

The mod is available for non-steam users as well!

get it now, its on sale with all DLCs

It's interesting the story behind Terror from the Deep, you can listen this interview to Julian Gollop: explorminate.org/interview-with-julian-gollop/

Thank you, I don't think SnapShot Games is interested in more DLC, and consoles not able to run mods is unfortunate. You'll have to buy a PC 🙂

Thank you, and wish you many hours enjoying the game

This is an issue we recognize and tried to fix it. We greatly reduced amount of repetitive missions and tried to make it so that there is more enemy variety. The weapons however are mostly a side-grade , with couple of upgrades

@@TerrorFromTheVoid All right thanks for the swift reply, I'm excited to check it out hopefully soon! Thank you guys for all your hard work!

I do, since you can start with a lower difficulty level and toggle off options in mod settings, so you define your experience, if you don't have previous experience

@@TerrorFromTheVoid Interesting thanks!

For example, in main menu you have MOD option on the bottom. Also if you start the game in Air Force Tab you can see Manticore has a module, FAR-M

Yes, for non-steam users you can download for Github, join our Discord and you can see how to install it

@@TerrorFromTheVoid thanks, I've done it already 👍

Siamo spiacenti, ma facciamo affidamento sulla community e non abbiamo ottenuto una traduzione corretta per l'italiano

Yes, you need all of them to play the mod

You mean railing blocking the angle? that remains

If you mean reloading vehicle ammo then some vehicles do get ability to reload, for example Armadillo using Gauss Turret can reload or Scarab using "Ammunition Racks" add-on can reload any weapon.

Yes, Scarab has a module for that, and Armadillo by default can reload Gauss weapon

From my experience, helping SnapShot Games in the Community Council, back in the days developing the DLCs, devs didn't have full freedom designing and polishing the game. On top of that they are a small studio. But that previous experience of this group helped a lot pursuing our vision of Phoenix Point on our own.

@TerrorFromTheVoid true you create the vision but what is snapshot doing now? They posted your mod over there game getting people to buy the game to check your mod then finding out there going to need all the dlcs now. Overall I like the mod and got the dlc but I have money others can't just drop 50 or so dollars on dlcs in tota. Just looked and they got 2 more dlcs coming out, you will be adding them in as well. I got no hate for the game or the mods but the dlc is kinda pricy, more then the game

@TerrorFromTheVoid let me ask and I want you to be honest. If you were the dev group would you have delayed the game for your vision of how the game was to be. No money remark or such just honest if you has your way would you have delayed it to do this mod as the real pheonix point experience?

Well, the cost of the game plus all DLC (Complete Edtion) is around 14$ now

@TerrorFromTheVoid it's 21 plus 28 for the game. I'm in Canada. But I know there on sale atm

No, it was done by a group of ex Community Council members (focus testers group for original game). The core of the team is 5 people, total of 12 members.

by something like 6-7 people (not counting many different people testing and giving feedback)

Sorry, but no mod support for consoles

It's awesome! Thank you for link!

in the mod you can ignore air combat completely

Isn't that a good thing?

I mean, it is an indie game... Personally I just really dislike a lot of the art (with the exception of the aliens themselves). Too cartoony and 'hero'-y looking, at least from the outside. Seems they doubled down on the things I disliked about the rebooted XCOM rather than taking the opportunity to have a darker, more realistic take on it, which I would've been down for. It's a large part of the reason why I completed Xenonauts, yet I bounced off PP pretty quickly. As an OG X-COM vet, I know people will be quick to point out that they were somewhat cartoony. But I always looked at that as limitations of the tech at the time. I don't think it carries over well in modern times. Remember how fucking ugly Enforcer was? It's a real shame because I revere J Gollop and his game design chops, but I just grimace whenever I see PP. People standing in the middle of the road next to enemies, cartoony zany looking shit everywhere... It just doesn't appeal to me, despite me wanting to like it.

Indie games are looking and most important - playing much better than some AAA (A) games these days

It's your choice, but TFTV was reworking the original unpolished game, maybe someday you will give it a shot