I remember those days with a school friend who's father was just like that, we'd wait hours outside the pub in the car with a bag of crisps and bottle of pop then drive home

So many other people from that era who have told me the same thing ..different times though like you said 👌

@@RetroReminiscing My old man and his mates were always in the pub. My poor mum left alone with 5 kids almost the whole time. My dad drunk a lot. Quite sad to say it but the few memories i have of my dad was him in drink. Saturday night in the pub and he'd be home after we had gone to bed. (car parked at a stupid angle in the road outside) Wake with a hangover at 11am on Sunday and drive back to the pub until it closed at 2pm. Drive home, eat Sunday dinner my mum made for him and then pass out drunk on the sofa all Sunday afternoon and back in the pub when they opened again that evening. Ad infinitum. The pub opening times were shorter back then but had they been open the hours they are now he would have been in the pub full time. Sorry for story and went a bit off track.

Your experience mirrors my own...my dad didn't set a a good example

Your story sounds like mine . I think a lot of us born in the 60s can relate. Drunken father and a mother trying to keep it all together 😢

agreed!

Thames really set the gold standard for TV news and current affairs on ITV.

Yep, late 70's and 80's my mum worked in a rugby club as a cleaner and helper in the kitchen. The club hired out it's large hall and bar for weddings, parties etc and the Police parties were always the worst by a country mile. Those guys got so drunk my mum told me they smashed the place up, fought each other and spoke to staff like dirt. And the car park was always rammed full and at the end of the night all cars gone. Those men were crazy.

Nothing worse than bent filth!

What year was that

Not as common as it used to be. It was actually considered quite normal and acceptable at the time. Times have changed and the punishment now is much more severe. A man i worked with, a professional driver, got a 30 month ban (don't know why so much), £2k fine, lost his job and will never get the same type job again, and when he did get his licence back he couldn't afford his new premium. He knows he messed up and and 4 years on still paying the price, all for not getting a £15 cab ride.

its got more complicated now..

Same thing with modern cars - they have too high a centre of gravity.

@@davelowe1977 I'm thinking Mercedes A-Class' infamous "elk test"... I suppose the worry isn't much the tipping over, more the worry of what happens afterwards (car driving into your windscreen etc.)

I went to a quite fancy garden party a few years back with the sole intention of not drinking. It was a really fancy party, not my normal sort of thing and champagne was being offered around. Had a glass, and then another. And another, totally forgetting myself. And then i was out of it. And drove myself and 3 other people home. That was the first, the last, and only time i have ever driven in drink and im actually ashamed. Not good.

Ford Granada

@@robertwilliams7222 no lad its a Ford consul GT witch later (74 or 75) was renamed the granada. Actually lads I made a mistake, it's just a Ford consul not a GT looking at the hubcaps. I must have had the Sweeny on my mind when I was typing earlier.

People being given a free choice of whether or not to do a socially irresponsible activity *IS* a good thing. Take that option away from them, and their inclination to do right on principle, is denied them. Society also deteriorates, because it can't interact on a more human level - rather, an artificial legalistic one instead - very insidious (and what the world is full of today). The answer in my opinion, is to address the underlying *causes* of drinking and driving to begin with... What _causes_ someone to feel the need to consume alcohol? Ultimately, I believe it all goes back to the implementation of secularism, and its focus only on the concern for oneself, rather than the interests and concerns for other people. Yes, alcoholism recovery is invariably difficult (as is recovery of trauma, abuse, other addictions etc.), but I believe it becomes INFINITELY easier, if there exists a recognisable link that connects all of us to each other that makes it easier to live alongside - respect for the soul. In fact, it renders the addiction virtually ethereal - "it was a thing that was "there", but I don't really care to entertain it any longer" is what I believe the mentality can become... Police are the terrorists of the soul from my experience - literally any behaviour you can care to think of, is becoming "policed", so that it is addressed on nothing more substantial, than its superficial level. Endlessly. And any resistance to their terror, is met with accusations mirroring exactly what they themselves are doing to YOU. Despise them.

@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 I think you're over thinking, yes any social change has to be encouraged and we're not adhered to enforced. We can debate all day about what changes are good or not. But there is no way drink driving should be acceptable and that way of thinking should be enforced.

And there are many causes for alcoholism, poverty being one, to escape life, that doesn't mean driving drunk is an excuse

@@pit_stop77 I think disadvantaged circumstances provide a PERFECT excuse for the committing of many illegal actions. If they didn't commit action [A], then they'd feel the need (owing to trauma/addiction etc.) to commit action [B], or live in fear of being subjected to action [C], otherwise, experience life shortening discomfort. Apologies if it seemed as though I'm only nitpicking on just one part of your comment - I thought I'd mention it first before I forgot! :) There's certainly no overthinking, it's very very straightforward for me to see how it is when in a place of complete rest and effortlessness. I've certainly been subjected to decades worth of "programming", and it's taken about as long, to get myself back to the "me" that I remember from my youngest memory. But along the way, I've also made discoveries that haven't been shown to have been refuted, and so I keep my eyes and ears open for anything that my change my views on the subject. I'm definitely with you about wanting drink driving to no longer be a part of our world (I'm teetotal btw), but I think the approaches that are "offered" (subtly coerced is more like it in my estimation) are in their own ways harmful. Yesterday, I received a "ticket" on my car's windscreen - which momentarily generated a sense of fear (of enforcement) - until I saw that it was a poorly made advert for car recycling/scrapping. Horrid advert, I threw it away! 🚮 Poverty is ultimately addressable by ending secularism I believe, but I'll save that discussion for another time and place if that's alright...a start would be to afford people the chance to discover, rather than be TOLD what is good and bad for them. That then guides them to agreeable solutions [which could ultimately stop the practice of drink driving without any aggrieved sense of opposition - it would just all add up effortlessly]. Sorry about the long comment - I feel I wanted to explain myself properly :)

Still is the norm, add drugs into the mix too these days lol

A Basshead by any other name...

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Have a banana

Congratulations sir, we need to conduct a sobriety test on you, please come out of the chair and do a New Zealand Hakka dance safely without falling to the ground for us to determine if you are above the legal alcohol consumption limit in order to operate youtube comment keyboard controls 🐱👍🏿

What a bizarre thing to say! Are you suggesting that we have no police force?

@@jonedgar5996 yes. Particularly, the "force" part. But my insights are too deep for me to feel I can explain myself fully on an internet comment section. Tried it before, but always meet impossibly unfair criticism each and every time. Sorry :)

@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 We don't have any police force any more, they are all a police service, which are needed (even more so in this day and age) yes i did read all your responses, and clearly for some unknown reason you have a big problem with them. My view of the police, they are paid ( quite low pay tbh) to a job they choose to do,so let do do it and respect it, cuz some day YOU might need their help.

@@Ju1ian10001 true (about the name "Service", that is). I've been helping people for free my entire life, yet in all that time, [the police] have done nothing but caused life shortening aggravation. They are intimidating, they are biased, and they act on emotion (when it really comes down to it - as does the whole human "justice" idea). They actively discourage critical thinking and unconventional behaviour as they themselves are trained to "do as they're told", and intimidate others to do the same - at the expense of those who are being ordered - and they don't get recruited unless they fall below a certain IQ threshold. They are a CANCER, and have demonstrated this to me time and time again so that it's not even a novelty anymore. And I had a fascination with joining them when I was young (ergo, naïve) - particularly, in traffic policing of all things! Their existence is completely unwelcome, and their "help" is forced upon those who may have a genuinely perceived grievance toward me [which I'm more than happy to address myself]. If anything, they are actually a CAUSE for, and of, strife.

@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 Would you consider yourself an anarchist? It’s a misunderstood name but real anarchy would work in a perfect world where everyone was honest and loyal .Unfortunately we live in a far from perfect world .