writers don't let beloved heroes die because fans don't wanna see them dead

Not Tony

@@atreonmaster2967 no that's not true. Writer are nostalgic. Fans are morbid.

Not the original captain marvel

Mar-vell died of cancer and never came back to the 616 continuity. It was a great ending for his character, but it hurt 😢.

Same with me

Yo I agree with this completely

I'm sure the living tribunal is multiversal or even universal abstract. As in there is only one version. After absorbing LT did Thanos take on TOAA . Still shitty though and I agree he should have conquered at lot more versions of other universes abstracts before at least challenging LT.

Kinda makes Thanos stronger than Darkseid , huh ?

@@zac99991 the Living Tribunal is a multiversal construct but even he can't affect more than 1 universe at a time. He can't wipe out the multiverse in one fell swoop. Or even significant portions of it.

Facts

Best explanation

Not TOAA,Above All Others in first sentence

It isn’t canon anyways

What the hell like aizen in bleach all do well according to he's plan..

Exactly

@djehushdhs ; just like in Heart of the Universe!

We finally got the answer. I hereby declare presence as the strongest. All hail king presence

@@add_pleasure6187 nope this isn’t dc

Well it didn’t come across that way but I’d like to think that

That seems like a really good explanation for what happened that fits really well with what happened in the story. I think I will take that as true unless proven otherwise. Thank you.

Yeah it seems some comic writers don't understand what it means to be the supreme being.

John Smith he still is. That’s above all others, the one that’s always by the living tribunal’s side. Thanos absorbing did not give him any omnipotency or nigh omnipotency, because above all others is only a celestial with the living tribunal. Also the supreme beings of DC and Marvel are p: the Dc Writer and Marvel The One Above All

Aleksa Kurtovic doesn’t really matter. Marvel hierarchy is always retconned(characters become weaker)

Well now we khow TOAA is not omnipotent

Aleksa Kurtovic found out there are three. One above all Above all others The one above all Marvel has genuinely renamed this character three times

@@preretconbeyonder7700 Sorry about this but that's unreasonable to think. Not only is that making assumptions outside of the concepts and facts that we were presented with in the story but even if it was true then is subverts the spirit of the story itself. Because if we assume that the TOAA lost the fight against Thanos on purpose, that the limitations of power that Thanos displayed are secretly put there in place to try to limit the power given by TOAA and that the understanding that Thanos had of the TOAA as the TOAA himself were flawed due to some artifice, then that would mean that this is NOT a story of Thanos getting the power of TOAA but a story of Thanos getting omnipotent-like power under the veil/lie that he took it/was given a shard of it by the TOAA itself. That would not only be false advertising from the book's part and lies from the author/narrator's part but it would end up being nothing but a overly sensationalized version every other 'Thanos omnipotence' story, which would render it unoriginal at best or bad writing at worst. The truth is that the TOAA here was badly handled and the concept of omnipotance was either badly interpreted/understood or the TOAA massively nerfed just so you could have the TOAA in teh book's title. Now the TOAA's narrative identity has been downgraded to what the Living tribunal was before it, just as the LT's narrative identity was eventually downgraded to what the cosmic entities were before, who in turn were downgraded by the infinity gauntlet which was in turn downgraded by the heart of the universe. This is comics at their worst, destroying good world building, story, character, philosophy and speculation just to put a big name in the title and make the story appear grander than before, when in truth the heights that can be reasonably reach have already been reached by arguably the heart of the universe story and any further exploration of similar themes will either be incomprehensible in scale, completely dehumanized in character or simply treading water. After all, what is the ACTUAL difference between this story and the infinity gauntlet story? None. They just exploited and mangled the concept of TOAA so that its clout would make the story look bigger.

Exactly. Someone who gets it. If you don't have a problem with darkseid outsmarting the source (soulfire) but have a problem with this, you're a hyproctital dc fan boy

Right? Because Omnipotent is Omnipotent, Omniscient is Omniscient. You can't in any believable way have a character like that exist and they just get defeated because of plot reasons.

I fucking hate comics sometimes

It was explicitly stated that OAA was trying to stop Thanos but failed. Please stop making these head canon claims, they’re getting old. How does a character not being omnipotent make him boring? Like wtf since when does omnipotence dictate a good character? I seriously don’t understand some of you people

We finally got the answer. I hereby declare presence as the strongest. All hail king presence

I know! At that point I was thinking, thats just waay to stupid! Those 'versions of him' are not real, they're... tricks... projections... something... no version of him can possibly be that dumb!

Ricardo Mejias nah, that’s just above all others. Different from the one above all.

Ricardo Mejias above all others is always with the living tribunal, and the one above all is still the God of marvel and the writers of marvel, like the DC writer. Also above all others and the presence are only Multiversal I feel at best, and the DC writer and Toaa are the Gods of Dc and Marvel

@@DagothUrAmaranth where does it say that? I saw the one above all

Ricardo Mejias forgot to mention that, he’s mistaking above all others with the one above all, they are separate entities

@@DagothUrAmaranth yes but were does it says that? Cuz everything i saw in that comic talks about the one above all!!! They ruin him just to glorify thanos.

Is this story not part of the main

@@24hrs26 no it's not canon

@@terminator900000 it's not part of the main story though ??

Cool story, Lazy Writing

@@terminator900000 How do you know Thanos The Infinity Ending is non-canon?

Blah blah blah... excuses excuses. Your marvel God is nothing now. he been depower by the marvel writers 😂

@@helderalmeida2790 What about your "God" The Presence? see what DC writers did to him, first he says in the comics that he's infinite and eternal, but even he was shaped by external forces, so if an omnipotent being is formed by external forces then he's not Omnipotent and eternal, because the forces that formed him must be beyond omnipotence and must've existed before him, which doesn't make any sense, And in lucifer 2016 issue 1- the Presence was literally dead, because Lucifer Kills him, how can an eternal omnipotent being die? In issue-10, Gabriel stabs Him with the sword of creation and its confirmed that The Presence died and became the dark/corrupted presence, and Elaine Belloc was capable of hiding things from the Presence, this proves that the Presence is not omniscient, and the comics even directly states that this being is more powerful than The Presence, how could any one be more powerful than God? Also the Great Evil Beast who’s equal to the Presence is an avatar of Lucifer? So "God" has an "equal"?, and if GEB is an avatar of Lucifer, then that means Lucifer is greater that the Presence, and the Presence was even contaminated in the same comics, omnipotence won’t allow this to happen, he even begs Raphael to heal him and free him from this contamination, how can this happen to an omnipotent God?, the same comics also states that the Presence got hurt and killed, how can God be hurt and killed? and other characters like hectate, the upside down man and the otherkind, have been shown to be more powerful than the Presence. Hectate has also been called the "original creator", which means the Presence is not the original creator, and her power "trascends each God, whoever walked the earth which includes the Presence", that means he's not omnipotent, since Hectate surpasses his powers, and in the comics, Constantine has confirmed that the "otherkind" are way beyond the Great evil beast, who’s on par with The Presence, which again proves that the Presence is not Omnipotent, since there's someone who is even greater than his equal (the GEB) and Pralaya has also stated in the comics, that she is the "sleep into which is all things even The Presence must inevitably fall", how could someone cause God to fall into a "sleep" against his will? Also the comics states, that the Presence was unable to stop or kill The Blight, the dark counterpart of humanity, this is further proof that the Presence is not omnipotent, furthermore, comics also shows spider queen created The Presence, the Presence was below her as she created him when she united the 3 realms, the Presence has also retired, vacating his creation, and his granddaughter Elaine Belloc took his place, and the list goes on, all these instances proves that The Presence, is not omnipotent, omniscient, eternal or infinite, DC writers didn't just "depower" but outright TRASHED your DC "God".

@@reginaldking9906 Looks like both DC and Marvel fans got fucked lol.

@@reginaldking9906.

We finally got the answer. I hereby declare presence as the strongest. All hail king presence

This is the ONLY plausible explanation.

Or he was trolling thanos Lmao

Cool opinion bro

TOAA

At least there is a solution to the problem. Beyonder suppose to be an unknown factor along with above all or below all. These characters can form The Unknown race of some sort

@@dale7326 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNanqdOar7yvpac.html

TOAA had calculated everything- he was playing with Thanos even to getting bored with his position to had ended his own life knowing he will come back after Thanos ended his rule- TOAA pre-writ everything and played his role knowing all was gonna end with him in the same position he started with.. TOAA just bored bro

It’s not canon

you kind of restated the moral without explaining why it is problematic. Doesn't seem to be much of an argument here.

We finally got the answer. I hereby declare presence as the strongest. All hail king presence

But the thing is (in this story) he didn't exactly 'do what he wanted' he never won over his 'true love,' Death, why was that? And despite seeing thru the eyes of... all things, he ultimately had fatal tunnel vision. Just bad writing all the way around.

I don't think darkseid really has interest in the cosmic cube. He just want ppl to fear him. He doesn't really seek power other than the antilife equation. The seven might win. I'm not gonna lie all homelander do is use heatvision. Shuma gorath wins

Way too many request

No, not necessarily, Thanos absorbed the One Above All but he didn't erase him from existence, *The One Above All is eternal and immortal he cannot be destroyed,* it was only the future version of Thanos that was destroyed not the present version, which means the present version of Thanos embodied the One Above all, meaning the One Above All still existed but within the present day Thanos who was locked in the Psyche of the future Thanos and he used the powers of the One Above all to recreate all of reality.

I can tell you know nothing. There’s only one living tribunal that watched over the multiverse and a universe

We finally got the answer. I hereby declare presence as the strongest. All hail king presence

No "omnipotent" being can be omnipotent for this reason.

can anyone but mistress death bring someone back from the dead?//

1000%, its similar to Superman getting close enough to villains to give them a chance to use that Kryptonite on him... Why are they taking these unnecessary chances? Because writers OP'd themselves into a corner.

*The One Above All

Ooh, this is pretty interesting. Thanos saw one of those loopholes I created and decided to close it up, but it looks like I balanced that one equation just right, because even the powers of Infinity, Chronos and the Time and Mind Stones aren't enough for him to foresee the alterations he's foolishly making in the timestream. Even now I could probably stop the whole thing, either by pulling him to a different universe where his cosmic powers won't work and having multiversal entities overwhelm him or by killing him in the past and overruling Mistress Death's decrees (though that's more complicated than it should be due to the loophole that started this whole thing, and might break a few universes, but with the system restabilized I can easily remake them), but where's the fun in that? I wanna see this play out to the very end. After all, I've already read the script, and the Writers get very annoyed when their precious plans get thrown out the window by those above them in the cosmic hierarchy (Editors, Deadlines, and other beings of which even I have no knowledge). I'd hate to see what they'd do to me.

Can I steal this!?? Lol

Not canon

@@idontknowwhattoputformyuse1104 it is

So tired of Thanos.

And how do you explain the non-omnipotence of DC's Presence? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNanqdOar7yvpac.html

RIGHT. And hell even The Spectre called The Presence THE ONE ABOVE ALL.

🤣 🤣

We finally got the answer. I hereby declare presence as the strongest. All hail king presence

@@add_pleasure6187 nope this isn’t dc

Well, each person has their own imagination, the contents of which can be considered an 'omniverse', so the 'multi-omniverse' would be the collection of all omniverses, or everything that any human has ever imagined at any point in time, past present or future. Whether this 'multi-omniverse' would include our universe as some sort of 'world between worlds' or 'higher plane of existence', and whether recorded worlds like those found in books and movies have their own universes, are up to you.

Bruuhhhh MAZAHS HELL YEAH!!! One of my favorite DC characters!!

@@tiyellcole1072, mine too!! And he is so OP :)

@@tiyellcole1072 what about final form Ultron

eric johnson I haven’t heard much about him.. I’m going to look him up and do some research. Thanks for posting this!

I kept thinking that too.. I think maybe the first half or 2/3 of the video was just the video he posted from a couple weeks ago? I dont know... Maybe he just completely reposted the same exact video with a new title?!

@@jcase6199 i was looking for this video because it showed how thanos felt as the one above all and i wanted to sceenshot it but i couldnt find it. Then a few days after i saw it pop back up lol. I think they uploaded it and probably made an error so they took if off and reupd it lol

I liked the start but when that cosmic regulator bs came in I hated it

I mean I thought it was a pretty fun story till Thanos beat TOAA then it kind of became a convoluted mess of garbage

I’m with you. I hate stories like this

I liked it, more or less. The execution wasn't that great, but the worldbuilding was pretty cool, and it brought in a bunch of cool ideas that I will have fun thinking about. An example of these ideas can be found in Andy Boekelman's comment, if you're interested.

No, it was a terrible story. The One of Above All was just a weak plot device.

We finally got the answer. I hereby declare presence as the strongest. All hail king presence

@@add_pleasure6187 nope this isn’t dc

And you don't understand the meaning of the Presence: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNanqdOar7yvpac.html

No he doesn't. As far as I assume, Thanos needs trinkets to even keep up with baseline Darkseid.

@@sliferxxxx exactly