Thanks for your highly informative video. I especially appreciated the pacing of the information and detailed description of each step.
@everettspain27393 жыл бұрын
Two weeks into listening to my DIY 3104s and I must say I'm very impressed. I'm a huge 2 channel music guy and I love listening to my Martin Logans ESL X and dual 1100X. In my opinion the floor standing speaker list is VERY SHORT when comparing however they are also good revealing weaknesses in your system. The first 100hrs or so listening, the 3104s were muddy, poor sound stage, and subpar bass. Now into nearly 300hrs of signal passing through, it sounds like I've installed another set of cables. The center stage is wide but tight enough to pick out where each artist is onstage. I listened to some older music that I'm familiar with the detail and it was like WOW....hearing voice definition, breathing I haven't heard and the guitarist actually plucking the strings. I can continue writing but let me just say, as an audio/video enthusiasts, I've always "chased the dragon" trying to get the best sound possible from whichever system I had...and sometimes spending considerably more than putting the Mogami 3104s together. These by far are the best sounding cables I've listened to (in my system) for the money. Ended up making 2 pairs of 8' cables to bi-amp my speakers. Wish I could share a pick of the finished cables.
@tupuhumuhumunukunukuapuaa3093 Жыл бұрын
I almost reacted like "300hrs? You're bullsh!tt!n", then I remembered that to a lesser extent, a run of Audioquest speaker cable in my system took a while to settle in. My wife and I noticed it on some slack key guitar music about two months after I installed them. I wasn't running music all day long to break them in like I normally do with new components. Coherence was mainly the "issue". Some things like distortion, you can't get used to. So, I don't entirely buy the "you just get used to the sound" argument when it comes to break-in (it's a real thing folks). So, yeah, I'm going to try this build out, what the heck. I might even do two pairs and see if bi-wiring makes a difference. If it doesn't, it'll just look like it is doing something? :) I'm excited either way. Tekton Moab, PS Audio M700, Gustard A26, PS Audio P3, AudioQuest whatever XLR and speaker wire.
@guyboisvert667 ай бұрын
There's no "break in" for cables dude...
@davidwiley61654 жыл бұрын
Great job sir! I really like the extra effort on the nylon jacket and heat shrink tubing. Personally I made four 10 gauge banana plug wires to bi-amp my front floor standing B&W. After seeing your video I need to step up my game. Now I want to add nylon sheathing and heat shrinking tubing to my cables. Thank you for the how to
@newsboyaudio2 жыл бұрын
I really like the cloth sheeting on it. I'm thinking of adding that to mine. It's really cool to have a thick wire, but I find the wire doesn't really matter. Outside of given the idea that they're good. I know some people feel it makes their sound better. So the confidence thicker wire gives is nice. Also, I love how a tick wire looks and feels. You did a great job.
@angelmelo3505 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing us that idea in speaker cables DIY, I liked it, and I provably would try it too
@garykarczewski66784 жыл бұрын
Like this choice of cables and build. Nice job! I am ordering the wire and other pieces to make my own new high end quality cables for my speakers!
@mikerieck3064 жыл бұрын
15:33 is funny. Thanks for the vid and info. Just ordered cable from Redco today and it will be here tomorrow as I live in Massachusetts (Redco in Connecticut). I bought the W 2921 14 gauge.....Redco was the only one to have that cable by the foot. Two years later these cables are working very well. Very satisfying to build your own cable. I'm going to look at your interconnect cable vid now.
@spkaddict86754 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm very new to youtube so I'm sure I'm doing this all wrong. I just wanted to say thank you for the videos ! The "how to" videos are the best. I've built the Mogami W3104 Spk Cables that you taught me how to make ( they sound OUTSTANDING) & I've built the Oyaide Black Mamba Power Cable that you showed me . The power cable very much improved the bass of my system ! I can't wait to build something else I learn from you ! Your the BEST & your a Giants fan as well !
@67spankadelik5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks for posting!
@centinel65053 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial thank you! I just made my own using 3103 cable. The sound opened and the bass got much clearer. Much cleaner sound
@phoebus2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear it, I have some Mogami 3103 cable on the way. I been testing different cables for months and the best sounding one I found was the Mogami 3082 cables. They are very neutral and natural sounding but the wire gauge is little thin for my set up, so decided to go with the Mogami 3103. BTW the worst sounding speaker cables I tried were the Canare 4S11's. They had way too much midrange. People say they settle down after many hundreds of hours but I played them close to 200 hours and they still sounded the same, not willing to wait anymore. The Mogami 3082's also sounded like they had too much midrange at first too but they didn't take long to start sounding more full and after about 150 hours sounded great. I had the 3103's pre burned in. Any updates on your Mogami 3103 cables?
@centinel89442 жыл бұрын
3103 is a great cable. You will enjoy it for sure. Here is my experience: It may sound a bit bright, but in a nice way and depending on your gear. Low bass is also enhanced, not so much the mid bass, and depending on the type of music or the recording it can be a good thing or not. With my EL34 bulb amp and tower speakers is great, I am very pleased with them. So balanced and coherent. Great soundstage and tridimensionality. With my solid state amp and bookshelf speakers, as I said, depends on the type of music, recording,etc. With some recordings the highs may sound forward and disconnected from the mids, sometimes feels compressed. With some other recordings the sound is very refined that makes me crank up the volume... addictive. That has been my experience, it’s worth trying, it’s a very very good cable.
@phoebus2 жыл бұрын
@@centinel8944 Just got the Mogami 3103 cables today and have been listening to them with a variety of music and I've got to say I'm liking them a lot. I like a little brighter presentation, brings my 20 year old pair of DIY Dynaudio speakers alive. They are a 3 way design so already have a lot of detail the midrange and seem to be working just perfectly with the Mogami 3103 cables. The speakers are full range, but I'm using them as big satellites to go with a pair of Dynaudio 30w100 subs in stereo. In my experimenting I tried Supra Classic 6, they had a excellent soundstage and detail and were very easy to listen to but were too heavy on the bass and mid-bass. Also tried the Canare 4S11 as a I mentioned, tried the Mogami 3082 which are nice, but a little lacking in midrange energy, some Audio Quest type 6 wires which were OK, but I didn't find them to be all that musical and many other types of wire I had collected over the years, but played that old collection for about two minutes each and said nope. The Mogami 3103 cables seem to fall right about in the middle of Mogami 3082 wire that was a little too dark in the midrange and the Canare 4S11 that are too bright in the midrange and so far 3103 Mogami's seem to be the Goldilocks of speaker cables, just right. I considered the 3104 wire but was worried being basically the same design that they might sound like the Canare 4S11 (maybe somebody could comment on that) and besides 4mm wire although Mogami lists it as 12 gauge is really much closer to 11 gauge and is plenty thick enough for my relatively short run. I did get the 3103's pre burned and froze. From my experience wires do "burn in" and no it's not just me getting used to the sound. I ran the Canares for almost 200 hours and never heard a change, but with Supra and the Mogami 3082's I did, the Audio Quest had already been used for years so they were already fully burned in. I don't know about the Cryo thing, but it was part of the deal and couldn't hurt, so why not.
@tangomarty Жыл бұрын
@@phoebus could you provide the measurement of the wraps, braiding, that correspond to what was used in this video when using the mogami 3103 instead? thanks.
@agx5024 жыл бұрын
KInd thanks for your helpful video, I have ordered the plugs and some of Mogami W3104 from a pro-audio shop. Excellent video notes also, with a bill of materials, and all the relevant links, awesome work. I am very grateful for your help !!!!!
@michaelbyrne88602 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! I'm in the process of reforming & conning some old vintage speakers and adding vintage amplifiers & tuners systems and I am now realizing it's all for nothing if you don't have quality speaker wire Cables! I'm embarrassed about the spliced willy nilly wiring I do use! That was a great! no wait! a Fantastic video showing how to make a quality speaker jacks & speaker cables thank Sinn Fein Byrne
@kantinansriprasert59994 жыл бұрын
After watching this video. I bought the Mogami w3104 with CMC pure copper banana plug and replace my old cable, the Van Den hul. It's so much difference. This new Mogami make me feel the hi quality cable in reasonable price. Thank you so much.
@kantinansriprasert59994 жыл бұрын
@@itsgiodudez I'm in Thailand, there is some company import from Japan to sell here. The CMC is a good banana plug too. So if you in The USA just find the cable in Part Express.
@Telemed9114 жыл бұрын
I am going to build my own cable after looking at speaker cables in the $2 - $4K range (too much dough). BTW, for those who suggest that this is too much for a home stereo system, it all depends on the system. If one is using 1 kW+ power amplifiers and have clean and/or well-conditioned source power, these will be great and are not overkill. Excellent video!
@seanevanslovesdrums3 жыл бұрын
It is likely to be overkill, it depends on what the impedance is and cable length really. It would have to be a crazy long length for it not to be overkill for most 8 Ohm runs.
@larryschwartz98833 жыл бұрын
Thank for the speaker wire info. I made a pair of the Canare’s and they sound superb to anything else I have ever made.
@daeladub4 жыл бұрын
I'm entry level (y rx-v685 pushing polk t-series on 12g unshielded wires) but as I upgrade I want to diy where I can. This video is exactly what I needed. Thanks
@donaldmackenzie26863 жыл бұрын
According to Audioholics, and I agree with them, the cable size (awg) you are using is an excellent choice for stereo speakers. I am pretty sure the president of Audioholics is an electrical engineer that has worked in communications so he understands how frequency affects cables. They have done different youtube videos on the subject of speaker cables and snake oil in the audio cable industry. Personally I think your speaker cables turned out great and are first class. Well done.
@jimbodee40435 жыл бұрын
The pure richness of the thumbnail made watch this video and now I want to create my own speaker cables.
@moniqueduchossois19584 жыл бұрын
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@547889635 жыл бұрын
Thank you dude! I will check it out and maybe make one for my speaker later.
@ajvboston14 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank You for sharing! I also like the other video confirming the findings between cables.
@filipandre29275 жыл бұрын
That cable could power a whole house, very nice!
@Marcel1979K3 жыл бұрын
Yes and it is completely useless.
@beslemeto3 жыл бұрын
@@Marcel1979K Why useless?
@Blindpulitzer113 жыл бұрын
@@Marcel1979K useless nah, way overkill yes
@Marcel1979K3 жыл бұрын
@@Blindpulitzer11 they are useless
@agylub5 жыл бұрын
I use 0.8mm solid silver slipped through medical Teflon tubing. Surprisingly cheap and because it’s shiny it’s great for the higher frequencies
@mark_nz4 жыл бұрын
I've always been troubled that my MIT AVT1 biwire goes from two connectors to four, so this looks like a great way to get four connections at both ends and test whether that cable is really all that great!
@England39425 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for making this video! Often times cables that look like these are sold for hundreds if not thousands of dollars, yet are likely made in a similar method to what you have shown. I look forward to trying this myself!
@xsonicpunkx4 жыл бұрын
Awesome job. I really enjoyed watching you work.
@optimusvader78234 жыл бұрын
WELL DONE , THANK YOU FOR SHOWING US HOW TO DO A GREAT REFERENCE CABLE FOR A FRACTION OF THE PRICE OF OTHERS ( COMPARE TO KIMBER KABLE ) .
@pmAdministrator4 жыл бұрын
Dawg, you look a little crazy, if you keep writing all caps like this.
@skunk124 жыл бұрын
@@pmAdministrator but ALL CAPS means its TRUE!
@blackknight70173 жыл бұрын
@@pmAdministrator ...WHAT'S CRAZY ABOUT ALL CAPS...YOU ARE THE LEMMING....CONFORMING TO THE CROWD
@steve1217583 жыл бұрын
@@pmAdministrator looks fine to me
@michaela.6698 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I have been watching your channel for a while now and thoroughly enjoy all of your videos. Thank you for sharing this great DIY on some great looking cables. I’m looking forward to making some very soon. Currently I’m using Blue Jean cables and I’m going to do some A/B testing. Good job buddy!
@jajessee5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time and effort
@nathanielbolden50535 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!...im gonna make some for my home theatre speakers!...theyre only 2 conductor though!
@MonsieurCorbusier3 жыл бұрын
Did you do it Nathaniel?
@zeusodin5812 жыл бұрын
I made these cables yesterday. Amazing! They replaced a pair of $2k WireWorld Eclipse 8 cables. I. Am. So. Impressed! Thank you so much. I recommend the locking banana plugs as regular bananas sometimes are too tight and eventually break at some point. Could you create a video on making 3 x 12 AWG (or larger) XLR cables? Amazing work. Thank you again.
@Tharbamar2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience.
@PhyrexJ Жыл бұрын
You bought wires for 2k? Lol
@fehllyy4 жыл бұрын
If you want the sleeving to be taught and not as loose on the cable, you can melt the ends of it to the insulation in conjunction with the heat shrink, sleeved custom PSU cable tutorials are a great guide
@TeleBass14 жыл бұрын
Great Video!! Thank You for the instructions! Take care, Randy
@isettech5 жыл бұрын
There are 4 main physical and mechanical properties that all need addressed for "High Quality" speaker cables. 1 Resistance (not nominal impedance). This affects the ability of the amp to deliver power and provide damping to the speaker. Resistance is related to material, and length. "skin effect" is a non issue at audio frequencies but is a radio frequency property. Shorter is better. Larger is better. 2 Capacitance. This affects the current drawn by the cable to charge the space between conductors when voltage is applied. This is a per unit of length, conductor diameter, and insulation material in regards to it's dielectric constant. Shorter is better. Smaller conductors is better. Low dielectric constant insulation is better. 3 Inductance. Inductance is the inverse of capacitance. It is the expanding magnetic field around a conductor as current flows. This is a per unit of length factor only. Resistance and insulation do not affect this. 4 Dielectric absorption. This is the heating of the dielectric material as it absorbs energy from the changing electric field. Low loss is better. Shorter is better. Conclusions.. A long cable is bad for a complex impedance of the speaker. The best cable is smaller and bigger at the same time as big is bad for capacitance and small is bad for resistance. The ratio of capacitance and inductance produces a cable characteristic impedance. When signal into and out of a cable matches the impedance of the cable, the problems of inductance and capacitance on opposite vector directions cancel and the cable can pass high frequencies with low loss into a restrictive load. Unfortunately a speaker is not a resistivity load and has a complex impedance curve. Making a 8 ohm impedance cable would be physically huge due to the size of the capacitance needed. This is why your TV cable is 75 ohm, your network cable is 110 ohm, and your DMX cable is 120 ohm. To use "short" speaker cables, much of the industry is moving to powered speakers and amp racks at the speakers instead of the sound booth. The signal is sent on several hundred feet of line cable which is about 200 ohm and with a resistive load instead of a complex speaker impedance. Loss is negligible at the entire audio frequency range. Balanced XLR signals have very high common mode noise rejection so hum pickup and other electrical noise is rarely an issue in a commercial sound setup. Not listed above is the physical properties. Solid vs stranded, physical size, appearance, etc. For those using lamp cable or house wire for speaker cables, they handle the voltage and power just fine, but may have issues in longer runs with the insulation and dielectric absorption. This can be compensated for as the loss is greater at higher frequencies, so it is "fixed with the EQ. Disclaimer. I am an engineering electronics technician with background in radio and television broadcast.
@nucleon44995 жыл бұрын
this needs to be pinned
@brandonlamondin62285 жыл бұрын
the levels you are talking about are absolutely inaudible to the human ear... so whats the point bud?
@isettech5 жыл бұрын
@@brandonlamondin6228 This is the premium Audiophiles pay for. I mentioned it as a study in physics for the perfectionists to realize the best speaker cable is just a compromise at best. It is very true the differences in short cables are very difficult to measure, but do affect long cables over 100 feet. The take away is short cable is the best speaker cable. This length issue with cable is not lost in the commercial realm. Big heavy speaker cables are giving way to either powered speakers, or amp racks placed on or under the stage near speakers as it does affect the sound. Controlled impedance balanced shielded line level signal is then sent to the powered speakers or power amps near the speakers. Days of 100 foot speaker cables are mostly history in commercial audio. The lower resistance of short cable impacts the ability for an amp to damp unwanted cone movement in a big way. Damping factor is the inverse of resistance. An amp such as my QSC with a damping factor over 100, gives an effective output impedance of 0.001 ohms for damping cone movement. A 14AWG speaker cable of 100 feet has a 100 degree F resistance of 0.2525 each way, which changes the damping factor from 100 to about 2 which considerably changes the sound. These are real world numbers if you wish to do the math. Look up copper wire tables and find the resistance per 1,000 feet and scale to 100 feet X2 for round trip. Look up the damping factor of your amp in the specifications. Damping factor is the inverse of the effective active output impedance or ability to stop unwanted come movement. In a living room with each speaker only 5 feet away, this is minimal. The best speaker cable is SHORT.
@nucleon44995 жыл бұрын
@@brandonlamondin6228 They really aren't inaudible. If you cant hear the difference a good cable makes, then you either don't have a good enough setup or you need your hearing checked.
@user-sr7fo5fe6x5 жыл бұрын
I love your response and the explanations you gave. What would make this even better is explanation and examples of application for us 'amateurs' to learn from you information when we try and build our own speaker cables. Thank you for sharing. EDIT: @ Isettech: Excellent reply to ChildOfGod. But, can you please explain the practical application of your information to the manufacture of DIY speaker cables (and cables to connect PreAmps to a PowerAmp, which is why I am here researching the manufacture of my own cables. I need to manufacture an RCA - Mono 6.5 TS connector to connect the sound card in my computer (ASUS Xonar STX) to a Phonic MAX 1600 to power my Dali Concept speakers. Thank you. EDIT: Bottom line is shorter the better and thickest guage I can get away with, with the shield of the RCA wired into Neutral at the P.A. end in order to 'ground out' the EMR back into the return path to the Xonar..? Is this correct? Thank you.
@Jaryd0035 ай бұрын
I’ve just finished making my Mogami w3104 cable and it’s magical 😍 BUY IT !
@boogiemanspud4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Would having separately shielded wires make a difference? I know on analog video signals (especially unamplified), shielded of utmost importance. If you run unamplified video signal for any distance close to a pcb, there is a ton of video interference. Once amplified, the video signal isn't as susceptible to interference. I don't know how susceptible speaker wires are (probably not nearly as sensitive since it's an amplified signal at that point).
@sphaera38094 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial! I’m with you, I mostly only use pro cables. The only exception is Supra, I find their power cords excellent. I also like their shielded speaker cables - I find some class D amps sound better with shielded speaker cables. One could also shield a professional speaker cable by manually adding a copper shield over the cable and covering it with the nylon mesh. Now I’m inspired to try the Mogami speaker cables. I’ll build a pair to try... :-D
@jakephilbrick73842 жыл бұрын
You should probably avoid shielded speaker cables as it drives up the capacitance of the cable dramatically. And since the signal isn't getting amplified after those cables, shielding isn't really going to do a whole lot unless you are in a VERY noisy environment. That being said, if you think its sounds better that way, that's all that really matters.
@worms1414144 жыл бұрын
I warmly welcome. Thank you very much for this guide. I have already ordered all the pieces of the puzzle. Waiting for them to reach me. I am very curious how this cable will fall out against the background of Nordost Red Dawn LS. I'll let you know how. Happy New Year.
@MohrMi4 жыл бұрын
What about the Mogami W2921? Is it comparable or competitive to the W3104? Which would you prefer between W2921 and W3103? Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!!
@bogie19714 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for the video i am going to build these soon. 6 AWG is awesome for speaker cables these cables should have very little resistance.
@a.vonende78854 жыл бұрын
Great cable. Thanks for the tutorial. I just finished building a pair and the soundquality is very good
@lupavalo20004 жыл бұрын
Which banana plugs do you used it? I can't find the one he recommended for this thick cables.
@a.vonende78854 жыл бұрын
@@lupavalo2000 KÁCSA® AUDIO BPGOLD TUBE BFA
@seans11024 жыл бұрын
Im building a set of these...thanks for the idea and tutorial.
@BabeTheAstrologer3 жыл бұрын
Was it easy to do?
@IliyaOsnovikov4 жыл бұрын
I would rather connect together in pairs the opposite wires (yellow-red and orange-brown). In that case you would get the so-called star-quad configuration often used in microphone cables to make them more noise resistant. Also star-quad is used by Audio Quest in many of it's speaker cables.
@Tharbamar4 жыл бұрын
These cables are starquad.
@gz4058 Жыл бұрын
What's the difference as long as you keep the cable colors consistent???.
@IliyaOsnovikov Жыл бұрын
@@gz4058 Please Read in Wikipedia what is the so-called Star-Quad cable configuration.
@gz4058 Жыл бұрын
@@IliyaOsnovikov I don't know this particular cable and colors but you are suggesting that the pairs that the OP used aren't diametrically opposed to each other?
@IliyaOsnovikov Жыл бұрын
@@gz4058Yes.
@Viking-ou8fc4 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of video on speaker wires , amps , and speakers .I love your channel the best as you have a great ear for sound and actually look at all the good and bad before making a dicission. Thank you for a great channel . I wish I could get the denon amp you ordered from Japan but I am scared as I don't want to be screwed if something goes wrong . My future speakers are going to be sonus fabre olympica nova 5 , and hope I can soon
@OzSteve4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you for showing on how to make it. Gonna make myself some now
@flyingjeff19564 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Shrink tubing comes in various "shrinkage" ratios, maybe that will help someone.
@jimmymac6014 жыл бұрын
Just ask George Costanza.
@guillermozepeda99673 жыл бұрын
@@jimmymac601 I was in the pool!
@Chapterrifik4 жыл бұрын
Awesome work here my friend 👌
@francisgoodfield62664 жыл бұрын
hello thank you for the helpful video can you tell me if there is a spade connector that will fit Thank you
@Sirflatch5 жыл бұрын
Very Good Video, Thank You for making it !!!!
@1skintyte5 жыл бұрын
Great video my man👍🏽👊🏽
@sluiceman14 жыл бұрын
Hi, just wondering how these cables have performed over the last year? Do you still use them? Like them?
@IliyaOsnovikov4 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar, Thank you very much for the information on those BFA terminals! Would you please check what is the hole size (internal diameter) for a wire in Parts Express BFA's in mm?
@MrWkendwarrior5 жыл бұрын
Like your easy explanations....true DIYers need patient teachers with an attention to process, detail, materials and required time...to make an outstanding product.....Cables are pro grade in function and quality of build, a pleasure to look at and listen too....please do more DIY videos, maybe interconnects next?
@Tharbamar5 жыл бұрын
Yes I will be making a few more DIY cables, Thank you.
@ardalay884 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! But you didn't use the star quad wiring method so you don't get star quad benefit. Is it intentional? You need to connect Red-Yellow to +, Brown-Orange to - to make star quad work. It is useful to mention. Kind regards.
@ahlbergmagnus Жыл бұрын
If you use this cable for bi-wire, will you loose the star quad benfit?
@jameslester67853 жыл бұрын
I have done A/B testing with different types of plugs. Brass is a no go. I could definitely hear a difference between brass and copper. So, if you have a choice use copper connectors, preferably copper spades.
@Lulrii3 жыл бұрын
James Lester maybe bare wire without any spades or plugs is better than any of them?
@jameslester67853 жыл бұрын
@@Lulrii Absolutely.
@MarkoVukovic0 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you! That's some serious cable! I would suggest also using adhesive heat shrink, then it will never come loose.
@rajkrish93473 жыл бұрын
Great video man. In a stroke of excitement, i just ordered the Mogami cable, Parts Express plugs to connect my Audiolab MBs to Elac Unifi UF52. Now am thinking of how to tackle my gf when she notices those monstrous cables 😀
@De132an5 жыл бұрын
To keep the surface of the copper strands from tarnishing which can have an effect on signal transference over time, maybe I would suggest the use of solder for an airtight connection. Soldering is a simple thing that most will be able to do correctly with little practice. Or at least have your copper ends tinned.
@Tharbamar5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for suggestions, For that issue I do annual cleaning of all my Audio cables and components, I’ve been doing that every year for last 20 years. It’s good old habit I learned growing up in pro studio, thanks
@johnsweda29995 жыл бұрын
I don't think so use high-grade silver yes not silver solder, but there should be no issues tarnishing his put shrink wrap should prevent any air getting to the Bare metal you could smear them with oil like 3 in 1 would prevent tarnishing
@De132an5 жыл бұрын
John sweda , sure use high grade silver whatever you can afford to solder with.
@allankvist67415 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Yes cleaning connections would be a good candidate for an educative video. Also using fluid electricians tape after tightening or soldering would probably be optimal. Seals it much better from air and moist
@JyrkiKoivisto5657 ай бұрын
how do you clean them...video please @@Tharbamar
@AquaFreak4 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial, and I love the look of the cable and speaker banana
@baldeagle76044 жыл бұрын
I just purchased everything to make some of these. Thanks for the useful video.
@pabsgabs3 жыл бұрын
So how is the sound? better than what you had? Im thinking about making them. thanks.
@baldeagle76043 жыл бұрын
@@pabsgabs still haven't made them. Everything is sitting in a box lol.
@pabsgabs3 жыл бұрын
@@baldeagle7604 That would be me too lol... Do I need the sleeve or is it just for looks? I usually dont use any banana plugs either, can I just buy the cable? thanks!
@baldeagle76043 жыл бұрын
@@pabsgabs the sleeves are cosmetic. You can def just buy the cable. Pretty thick stuff to twist together. I'd go either spade or banana.
@OrganNLou3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I also suggest Supra cables from Sweden which are VERY low capacitance. I tinned the endings with Cardas silver solder and I will use Rhodium pins on the end. The Supra is affordable and VERY good quality.
@frumfonselderlotgerade4234 жыл бұрын
Hello! Can you make a comparison between your reference speaker cables from Mogami and a regular H07RN-F 4x4mm2 copper powercable for 2 or 3 EUR each meter? I believe that you won't find huge differences. Okay, the color code on the single wires.... ;-)
@lupavalo20004 жыл бұрын
Hi I can't find the banana plugs. I need to know which others banana will fit this thick cables. Any help will be appreciated.
@BestKiteboardingOfficial3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see how you make them. Have you ever learnt the math and basic electronics behind cable CSA current capability, cable resistance, amp damping factor and crossover/,driver impedance?
@allangonzalvo10584 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for making this tutorial video..sir can I ask you how much it would cost to make a pair of 7ft long speaker cable version of this with Spade terminals on the other ends instead of all banana plugs...thanks so much sir
@asifhasnain68523 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I made this cable and have installed it on my system. These sound more transparent than a set of PS Audio cables that I had been using for a decade. And they are really easy to handle due to flexibility. Thanks a lot!
@gregorypellar62364 жыл бұрын
I recently went to Guitar Center and picked up a Mogami mic cable for XLR connections and was blown away with the quality of sound for the money. Easily comparable to cables costing 10 times as much.
@armandodiaz34855 жыл бұрын
Have you made any hi end speaker cables for guitar amps/cabinets that terminate with 1/4” TS connectors?
@talisman51502 жыл бұрын
Just built my own today according to your specs, thanks for the template video 💪👌
@Tharbamar2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@deejeemadrox18664 жыл бұрын
nice show and it surely will work fine. But i am wondering, are these not overkill for home use? I mean, these kind of professional cables are meant to travel long distances, 50 mtr or more.
@williamholsey3 жыл бұрын
As a electrician, cutting into a sheath like they damaged the conductors, your can use aS/O cord stripper to strip that without damaging the wires inside.
@Viking-ou8fc4 жыл бұрын
I also am going to get these speaker wires that you just built , but I may need like 10 feet each side
@2ChannelAudio4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this video !
@chriswithall25183 жыл бұрын
Hi why did you not wire it star-quad i.e. 1-3 and 2-4 as the pairs and get the benefits of lower capacitance and inductance?
@allankvist67415 жыл бұрын
Professionals use plain oxygen-free copper. Professional sales people prefer silver, gold or more expensive materials. Apart from that I really like your videos. I like your cable also☺
@mackenziedesrouleaux6803 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video now I’m going to make my own set.
@justplainlawr4 жыл бұрын
Nicely made video! Thoughts about twisting the wire ends?
@johnd28432 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this fantastic video! I have been planning on making my own speaker cables and this tutorial is one of the best i've seen. I do have a couple questions. 1. Is there a technical/sonic reason why didn't you twist the pair of conductors before connecting them to each other? 2. I have seen other people's comments about star-quad wiring and your responses. I don't fully understand the importance of pairing or the difference between coupling two adjacent conductors vs. coupling conductors across from each other. Is there a difference? According to wikipedia, in star-quad configuration, "opposite points of the star are connected together at each end of the cable to form each leg of the balanced circuit." For the mogami, that appears to be red+yellow, brown+orange. Thank you!
@Tharbamar2 жыл бұрын
Hi, No reason for not twisting them, I’ve done many cables and I just wanted to have flatter look when I was making this video. Star -Quad position at end points are not important you can connect how you like it, there is no difference in sound quality and you still have whole length of star-quad in between them. But it all up to you, thanks
@johnd28432 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Thank you for your quick response. I appreciate your work
@joaomanuelfabiaodasilva68545 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!!
@lawmanlawreaper5 жыл бұрын
Great video and good on information thank you
@liamcusack54753 жыл бұрын
Awesome cable and fantastically explained. Thank You.
@adamnowak88764 жыл бұрын
6AWg cable for speaker.. Are you connecting speakers directly to the power plant?
@keithandersen67989 ай бұрын
The table @ :38 shows the capacitance when pairing wires #1 and #3 together vs #1 and #2. Pairing 1 and 3 has a lower capacitance then 1 and 2. In between those pairs is a cord/insulation that is not shown in the illustration @ :38. You just see a gap. That cord/insulation separates pairs 1&3 and 2&4 allowing a lower capacitance. So pair Brown & Orange, and Red and Yellow. Will this make a difference to your ear? He made mention that there is no difference in sound and I believe him because he's making short cables. Thank you for your DIY videos. Thinking of making a pair for the fun of it.
@10WA5 жыл бұрын
Very nice wires. Guarantee that's over kill. I've done a few blind test with friends. I've never had any of them pick my best set of wires. Also this wire would need to be tightly twisted or separated to prevent induction at higher power levels when the conductors are that close parallel to each other.
@Tharbamar5 жыл бұрын
Yes I did tried twisted and I didn’t notice any improvement, as you can see at the end of this video all my other wires are all twisted but only 5.5' run should not be any problem, I've seen many high power set up with this cable in pro environments even much longer runs without any problems, thanks Inductance: 1khz 20°C 0.6µH/m (0.18µH/Ft).
@yttean985 жыл бұрын
Last you for a very very long time, my guess is that after a year or two you would want to upgrade. You see your ear is very clever it soon gets sick/tired of the sound that comes out of your speakers then you want to upgrade. This applies to right through all your hi-fi equipment.
@andya26654 жыл бұрын
A cable company would want over $1000 for comparable cables. Gonna try to make these. Thanks
@gordiefrench53425 жыл бұрын
great work i have used mogami for years best cable money can buy
@chifetish5 жыл бұрын
You can buy Transparent 12-4 cable for about 5 bucks a foot. That is what I use and I think a better value for the money. You can buy direct from their website.
@BonJohnvie4 жыл бұрын
@@chifetish Can you send me the link to this?
@paulespino64624 жыл бұрын
@@chifetish Just looked at Transparent's website and couldn't find that 12-4 cable. Could you post the link?
@paulf69463 жыл бұрын
Stunning ,if they sound as good as they look ,wow ,going to make a set in the next couple of weeks ,thank you 👌👌
@everettspain27393 жыл бұрын
For some reason, commenting on this post doesn't allow you to share pics. Just finished my cables and I'd love to share my pics. Also the connectors used in @Tharbamar video are out of stock until July (everywhere) so I went with an alternative.
@paulf69463 жыл бұрын
Everett Spain sweet mate ,how do they sound
@everettspain27393 жыл бұрын
@@paulf6946 I've only listened a few hours so not quite enough to give a full review but a very noticeable difference from the BJC 12. I'm bi-amping my Martin Logan ESL X through the Marantz MM7055, crossing them over at 80Hz and allowing the 2 Martin Logan 1100X handle the bass in 2 channel music listening. If you've never listened to Martin Logan's, they aren't very forgiving...if there's a weakness they will reveal it. I'll share more after more listening.
@paulf69463 жыл бұрын
Everett Spain fantastic,I look forward to hearing how they sound when fully run in
@sabiondocolors3253 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Just , thank you for the video and your time !
@yesnomaybe75 жыл бұрын
Well done, Thank you
@christophkampmann64153 жыл бұрын
Really lovely advice. What do you recommend for a 4 way speaker system which is active driven. Two Mogami 3104 per channel or 4 Mogami 3104 per channel?
@Tharbamar3 жыл бұрын
I can’t comment on it without trying, thanks
@danhorton61823 жыл бұрын
I’d say at the most two per channel. Each wire is 11 awg and with two runs per channel you’d be doubling up to get the 4 drivers (8 individual wires/2 = 4 for the 4 drivers. Essentially each driver would then have a run of 9 awg. Wayyyy overkill unless you’re running a lot of power over a long run. If the drivers have a standard 8 or 4 ohm impedance, the run is under 30 feet, and the power to each driver is under 600 watts id say you’d be fine with one run per channel. Each driver would have an 11 awg wire and the losses over that wire would be nearly nothing.
@diemturner57553 жыл бұрын
Those are some very nice looking cables you made there. Nicely done. At the end you said something that caught my attention and I was hoping you might take a moment and illuminate for me what you meant. In passing you mentioned that you break in your speaker cables and I'm curious as to what that entails, what processing is happening inside the cables and to what end this leads (i.e. what benefits does one get from having broken in their speaker cables). Thank you.
@bradkizer99614 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Thank you!
@Vidar.m3 жыл бұрын
Whats the use of that giant cable when the wires inside the speakers are thin as hair
@CH-py8zv5 жыл бұрын
Good video, but i was curious a few years back about wire size for speakers. I tested this theory about wire size so i went out and bought some 16, 14, 12, and 10 gauge wire. I tested these different size wire's on my home stereo and i couldn't hear any difference in the sound eminating from my speakers. I also went out and bought some lamp cord and wired it to my stereo speakers and guess what, i still could not hear any difference in the sound quality. So my question to all of you viewers is it possible that some people can hear sutlle differences in sound quality.
@ryohnosuker5 жыл бұрын
Big gauge is just in case. I can live perfectly with Canare 14AWG wires used on 4ohm speakers and 75watts amp.
@doargietweitervandah5 жыл бұрын
well, maybe in this case, its not the wire but youre speakers arent much revealing.
@ryohnosuker5 жыл бұрын
I think the only way to notice difference is with power hungry 8ohm speaker and higher volume listening.
@JDM7972 жыл бұрын
Same here..i cannot make out any difference, so cables doesn't bother me anymore...
@nyxsplitter71685 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your tutorial video. Are you going to make one for the interconnects?
@Tharbamar5 жыл бұрын
Yes I will be making it next month, thanks
@nicholascremato4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you!!!!!
@garyalexander56865 жыл бұрын
Parts Express is out of stock until 9/30/19 for the BFA Style Banana Plugs with Dual Set Screws and Poly Carbonate Shell . That's OK. No hurry.
@palmeadia4 жыл бұрын
Great video! One piece of advice though, when twisting the final terminal wires together prior to insertion into banana plugs, use gloves, this will prevent oils from your fingers oxidising the cable ends.
@florin6042 жыл бұрын
Oil/grease doesn't oxidize the copper. Salts oxidize the copper. Copper is actually protected by grease/oil. Copper will oxidize regardless if you touch it or not, but when it does it forms a layer that will stop further oxidation. Don't give any advices if you are clueless.
@palmeadia2 жыл бұрын
@@florin604 Obviously oxygen which is in the air acts as an oxidising agent but Acids which are present on the skin cause expedited oxidation. 'Oils' was to refer to this acid mantel. The oxidised layer you refer to may help protect the metal itself from further degradation but it also unfortunately acts as a barrier between the contacts.
@saml28792 жыл бұрын
very nice work....these cables are designed for stage/concert applications, they are bomb proof :)
@wayneklyne30734 жыл бұрын
Hi just finished my Mogami W3104 8'x 2=16 ' Cost approximately $11 ca. per ft.all in, now just have to break them in cant wait, to hear them!!
@thomasgammelby93093 жыл бұрын
Funny how you believe in cable "break in" I'm guessing that you bought Mogami because, as the video claims, you can get high end hifi cable for low-fi price by DIY. But cable burn-in is something these so called snake oil selling audiophile cable companies introduced. Just saying if they are right about cables having burn in, might they know other stuff that is critical to audio cable design. Just saying... Makes you think.