+geetarbube Nice one! Thank you for the work you do. Now that's important shit!

That Pedal Show THANKS for your work...from another MARYLANDER🎸😊

This sounds cozy AF. Congrats!

Hello from Bethesda, MD!

heyo from Harford Country, MD. Not to far from Kent Island, home of Paul Reed Smith.

+Cring0r You make a great point, and hopefully that was the message of this whole video. Play what makes you feel most comfortable.... because that's when you'll play best. :0)

On tuning low to high causes the tuning peg gear to lash tight together instead of loose ( there is a fine hair of a gap between them) called positive tension.

John Lawrie saw an interview with j mascis where he said exactly the same, not a bad bedfellow ey

I just liked ordering "Ernie's stainless steel balls... extra stinky"

I fell hook, line and sinker for their marketing as a young kid. Look at all those names on the package! I love those guys! I'm using these.... I've since become a daddario guy but will still use ernie balls if need be. They are very good strings, no doubt.

Same. It's only when I switched to a different string brand I realized how bad Ernie Balls are (at least for me). Using DR strings these days.

@Sky Studios DR's quality control went to the shitter in the past couple years. Sorry you missed the golden ages of their round wounds.

Quincey Van Den Berg skinny top heavy bottom Ernie ball set, gauge of kings

Quincey Van Den Berg I love the skinny top heavy bottoms, too!! Favorite thus far...

HateHater I think they're the most versatile tuning wise (as long as you aren't going up)

yep! seems that way to me as well

Same here

+Rob Chapman ha! Yeah, fascinating stuff. Hope you're great matey :)

+Rob Chapman Looking forward to watching that Rob. Especially for gained sounds. Rawwwwwk!

No, you didn't.. The grown ups here did a much better job.

I have a feeling I watched you do a video on this years ago? First thing I thought of when I saw the headline.

As I recall you stated not too long ago the Bassbreaker was your favorite fender amp so... I think I know where you're starting out! But we shall see... :)

+Tïr Eoghain Blackman Great idea, thank you!

That Pedal Show put me down for one!

I'd but one. Rather like a Derek & Clive link, "that Pedal Show gives me the horn......."

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Or , That Pedal Show makes me horny baby :)

I saw ricks video and wished someone had done it with single coils and clean tones. Then found this video. This showcases why I love 10s and 11s

@@DistrictSoundLab Exactly, also even in Beatos conditions you can not be expressive or have dinamic range with 8s because they will choke or go out of tune just by staring at them.

@@zaldum386 yeah really not a fan. Loving the stringjoy 10-48 and the 10.5s for E flat Strats

Yep. Get the strings that feel good under your fingers, and play guitar

Yup. I used to play 10s for years but i like the feel of 9s so much better it makes it way easier to play the way i do. I havent gone back to 10s ever since. 8s i actually hear a diff that i dont like. To me 9s to 10s sound so similar i feel like i have a better tone on 9s because of how easy it feels to play.

+DevilMayAsian Hahaha!!!

That Pedal Show sometimes when I'm feeling down I like to go back and watch dan listening to joey landreth play.

Whiskers B me too, always make me feel warm inside.

the 'djent face' ;)

Whiskers B Best show ever :-D

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Sean Dyer, The sub are doing fine on the show. I especially like Edith! But Mark and Simon are sorely missed. In the meantime Dan and Mick are doing a fine job!!!

+Sleepthieves Thank you muchly! It's all a continuing journey. Thanks for watching!

+Scb Lds Slightly scared to ask, but what is a brown recluse? He sounds nasty. Glad you're on the journey and still enjoying it. Thanks for watching!

Amused 2Death and That Pedal Show. Yes thats the one, nasty buggers could cause you to lose digits and such! I'm fortunate that I caught it very early...still lost some muscle tissue and such. Can't tell by looking at it unless I say " hey dig this" Glad it was the thumb and not a more relied upon digit or appendage!

Scb Lds glad you kept your thumb! My aunt actually died from one, and this was in Michigan!

@@ThatPedalShow it's a spider highly poisonous tends to make the flesh decay around the bite

If you don't like 9s, but 10s are too much for your thumb, you may want to try a set of {.0095, .0125*, .016, .021p**/.025w**, .034, .046}. *possibly only sold by Kalium. -may have to settle for slightly heavier **possibly only sold by Kalium. -may have to settle for slightly lighter.

+clinkman007 Cheers Ricky. Yep, what you say makes a lot of sense. Pick thickness too. It's all an ecosystem that needs to be balanced optimally for you and you alone. Thanks for watching!

David Glendinning I found different string brands and types work better on my different guiitars. I use Fender Super bullet 9-46 on my MN SSS Strat in standard tuning but NYXL's 10-52 on my RW HSS Strat in drop C#. I have tried loads of different combinations and these are what currently 'do it' for me.

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+Stephen Parry Thank you Steve, appreciate the kind words! Thanks for watching!

Nice catch! I thought there was something weird there... and so did Mick, as he asked Dan at 42:59 if he used the same sound on the Andy Timmons lick and Dan replied "Exactly the same sound!"

Yeah, I noticed too before Mick even asked.

Ultimately, they made the right conclusions and it very useful. Regarding the continuity error, it's difficult even with professional directing, when there is a before and after using time delayed recording.... ....but yeah the pick-up switch was a clearly obvious sound really, even though I don't use my Tele that much, and I'm only listening on this phone. The major difference to me was volume. It was so obvious, because he was being more sensitive, and couldn't hit the strings as hard, so it was much quieter...... and therefore the output was weaker and so affected the signal path. Edge of breakup became a cleaner, further away from the edge, and some of the grit had gone. It's always best to keep a balance in life, and maybe they weren't as objective as they could have been. They're the same with 'cheaper' gear. They've always got good advice. I don't always believe their motives, but that's my problem There's nothing wrong having solid opinions built up over many years. Being opinionated, is different because that what makes you unable to listen. That's probably me too. Alhough it's good to remain open minded, even if your mentality is wired to a continuous improvement program, the more experienced you are, the more you think you're right, after all the adjustments and tweaks you have made, you are doing all this for the good of your playing. If you're a tone chaser, never satisfied, I would recommend practising with what you have. If you invest your time, research and money, you've got less reason to look back. You'll always try and make it sound good. If you're the type always practising because you feel there's more you need to achieve, you know what your like, carry on.

I went scrolling, looking for this comment. I didn't go far enough before making my own comment saying the same thing. Oops.

Wow... nice catch! I was so blown away by the difference, but now, knowing the pick up was switched to the neck position, that made a huge contribution to such a big difference. THANKS

That's awesome Lee, thank you for the kind words.

Read more … Me too.

Yeah - true .. and his disciple Joe (Bonamassa) goes for 11s too .. Whilst EJ's not the pinnacle of tone for me, you can't deny how nice his guitars sounds are .. but my point still stands, I think the convention of thick strings=good tone has so many exceptions that it's simply not worth anything ..

+TheActressAndBishop That basic argument can and will go back and forth all day long. :0) Most of my fave players use heavy strings. But many don't. There's not much to glean from that. :0) Thanks for watching!

Oh yeah - and then you throw in people like Paul Gilbert who changes guage all the time .. I loved this video - it's a great debunking video .. and I liked the change of subject. Nice :-). Thanks guys ..

I think the thing that this video has illustrated isn't that either one is "better", just that there really is a difference and it isn't just in how it feels to play. I personally preferred the heavier strings in all cases (and I'll be ordering a box of 11s on payday this month!), but I think a band mix would make a huge difference and I can see that the brighter, less low-mid heavy tone of the 9s or the 8s could work much better in a dense mix, depending on the amp, the pedals and everything. Then again, in a different mix and with a different setup, maybe EVH would sound better with 11s. He doesn't use them because he prefers 9s but that's his choice. As these guys keep saying, there are no wrong answers, only better questions.

Ry Cooder - 12s.

have a ES 339 and a Danelectro Longhorn strung with 12 - 50 from Thomastik-Infeld. Definitely a great feel.

I've used them on my Epi Broadway and Swingster. Have been tempted to try flat 10s on my Sheraton.

Billy Gibbons actually now uses 7's....

Scott Henderson has twice melted my ears off - unforgettable concerts: truly one of the worlds best lead guitarists.

now That's an informed comment.

Don't forget Malcolm Young. .12 to .58 or as Angus put it, the heaviest ones he can find.

Thank you!

Stuart Carden "but changing my low E string is so annoying!" The guitar player tells the 5 string bass player...

Joe Massie haha exactly!

yeah but u don't bend a whole step :)

Edvin Maksuti you'd be surprised :)

haha. but we should also consider that bass guitar is 1 octave lower and has a much longer scale length.

+Andy Lord Mick here. I agree - they're lighter in the midrange so sound a bit spankier/scoopier. More Stratty, you might say! :0)

in contrast.. just got to the Les Paul part and i would say the heavier strings have more of the authentic rock sound probably influenced by the music i have listened too.. definitely food for thought though.. I'm going to try putting lighter string on my strat and heavier ones on my Les Paul. Great video as always guys, thank you.

Totally agree with you Andy - my preference too, but how much difference simply because they were "packet fresh" I wonder...

I use 0.10 on my strat and Tele and 0.11 on my SG and Les Paul. Because of the difference in scale length it plays almost the same. But the Gibson's sound much heavier (also because they have mini humbucker and P90, no humbuckers, hate those). It's how I like it best. :)

every strat should come with .9-.46 on it

Yes! And the horn… great t shirt ideas Mick and Dan!

+Luis Rosario Thank Luis - glad you enjoy the show. We appreciate your time!

Yeah, you can happily use 9s on a Fender but the Gibson scale length is just too short for them (just my opinion of course)

Burnt Gerbil I like 11s on my Gibson with a top wrap. Worth a try if you are interested. I find the tone and playability is great especially in e flat

Wade Wilson - I don't really care for the top wrap thing. I know it reduces the tension, but I actually like having to fight a little with the guitar. Preference thing I suppose.

I happily use 9s on a Fender Mustang. The notion that Gibson scale length is too short for 9s, when Jimmy Page and B.B King used 8s, is a bit much. Every player has a preference, and a lot of players fret very lightly because there's no need to have a heavy fretting hand, so if you have a sensitive touch, light strings are totally possible.

+Thomas Stonehewer Of course, that's where I heard it - aha. I LOVE that show! (Mick here)

Hi Mick, yes they get a great live sound on that show

He's got a great house band too. I take it you're referring to Billy's story about BB King and his thin strings?

WhoWouldWantThisName Shane Theriot, great player.

observation!

+The Fight ah, cheers matey :)

+The Fight Too kind, thank you! What does anybody say, just out of interest? ;0) hahahaha!!!

John K , very cool idea. Gonna try that. Thanks.

That is quite interesting actually!

You are also playing over 3 different pickup pole heights (strat) so not really very scientific. Plot them all onto the high e string spot and see.

+Ivor Thomas Thank you Ivor! Glad you enjoy the show. We certainly enjoy making it! :0)

Flownimo Andy Timmons

Electric Gypsy - Andy Timmons

David Diehl I feel like you’re not listening if you can’t hear it. The difference is so significant. 10s are a good middle ground but 8s are horrible strings 9s aren’t great but definitely more playable. SRV used 13s. So yeh lost can’t use 13s but most people are capable of playing 11s.

I would tend to agree. I think most of the perceived difference is from how you play the different strings. I’d doubt there’s much difference in the signal

+ OSoSpoOOoky - Yup. Mick did some nice work here.

They both sounded awesome but Mick sounded great struggling with 12's =).

TsiratiugZ, me too, I put them on every Strat I own. Mostly for the simplicity and because I hate changing strings. I suck at the multiple windings thing. I still put a couple windings even with the locking tuners, and I always check that the locking mechanism hasn't loosened up.

Or just stretch before playing and you'll have no issues, young man's advice

@@alexmurphy5289 you'd have to become an old man before you know whether that is good advice or not ;)

According to Kenny Werner RSIs (repetitive stress/strain injuries) are more from embodied tension and poor technique, and I would tend to believe him. In my experience most people play with way more tension and poor technique than is necessary. Lighter guage strings are much more forgiving of poor technique.

8s sound like rubbish. Soak up those 11s while you can. Middle aged mans advice.

D’Addario’s 9-42 sound, feel and play the best, IMHO. I was caught up in the heavy gauge nonsense for a time, and my hands paid the price. There is a reason the majority of manufacturers ship guitars with 9’s. 😎🎸🇺🇸🗽🦅🇺🇸

sounds like variations from "electric gypsy"

shnmclr weird. I was reading this comment exactly when that song started playing on the vid. Like reading in a coffee shop and encountering an uncommon word like "harpsichord," and having somebody say the word at the same time.

+Jesse Cole Hahahhaa!!!

@illuminOz you mean the guy who used Tone Zones for a majority of his career? That pickup will make anything sound thick.

Don't hate me. I've always though Paul Gilbert had a very thin tone. It works for what he does, but it's thin to me.

@@joshdeal575 crappy tone on occasion...you can say it...I think he uses the corner of the pick a lot.

So how do we merge this video's results and the recent 2020 Rick Beato video where everybody is groupthinking on thin strings being "better". Radical thought. Neither one is better.