thats what i think a lot of jazz solo improvisations boil down to. they just celebrate the weirdness sometimes.

🎶 Fake it till you make it 🎶

🤣 and then explain that it's experimental improvisational DOODAH 😳

I used to play a lot of loop guitar, typically 7-8 second loops. Whenever I played an unintended note, I had about 7 seconds to figure out how to resolve that note so that it sounded intentional. Some of my best loops came from these kinds of 'mistakes'.

repetition legitimizes

@One Guy Named Ivan you just lack convidence?

Underrated comment

😄

Just call it jazz, play it with a nice swingy rhythm and you are good.

There are even wrong notes in jazz. But if you have confidence and know how to resolve it properly, then it works.

this is very accurate

Such a nice comment

I can agree with this a lot, specially when I tried to teach music theory and always was like: - let me teach you the rules, but when you advance more you will be able to break those rules to make new stuff

A foundation from which it's possible to deviate. Without that, there is simply nothing to grab.

Because people composing music back in the day didn’t study music, they just made music to begin with then came music theory trying to study and learn from the OG composers

@Optic Flow the end destination for all arts and trades, will all meet at the same point. Something like that, I botched the quote

Jacob Collier is a different youtuber

@@Squatsheldon he is the Tom Scott of music

:D My thoughts exactly.

"In my opinion you can make every note work with every chord... there are strong decisions and there are weak decisions."

😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

lmao i didnt even notice that

He's got too much confidence he went in for the kiss!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Well done

They just haven't found their home

That’s when you know your a true composer

I was never great at music theory but I understand what he is saying 100% and I agree👍🏾 When it comes down to it... it's how YOU feel about it... what YOU'RE trying to "say".

Thelonious Monk school of Jazz moto: There are no wrong notes.

JaZz

im not a musician, but i have spent a heck a lot of time inbetween classical musicians, bar musicians, pop musicians and even dj-s who also double as producers, all of them from the mid and low range regarding their success or monetary gains. the most obvious thing ive seen, is this battle of keeping yourself within set of rules or not. or in other words, a war of classes, of supposedly high level classical musicians who know every note and where they can or cant go, and the intuitional creators who just try to play and trial and error stuff. interestingly, next to noone, listens regularly or parties to beethoven or waghner. seems to me jacob is only talking about this, but coming from an actual high lvl education of music. which in itself, angries his own academia, but is pleasant for the regular guys.

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"extrapolate" - low IQ confirmed

this is brilliant and true lol

true. And funnily enough something that holds true with many other music related stuff. like mixing. as beginner you throw on some plug ins and turn some knobs but you have no idea what that actually does to the sound. But watch any professional mix runthrough on yt and you'll hear "I put this vocal-harmonizer on the guitar bus and turned the knobs a bit. I have no idea what it does but it makes the guitars sound cooler" at least once.

At 2 going to 3 right now lol

i put dissonance because it sounds pretty :) i have been studying the violin for 8 years and i don't know how chords work

🙌🏼

Practice the landing (resolution)... that´s what jazz/fusion guys spend their times on :D

The number of times an improviser misses the thing they intended to do, so they repeat it verbatim to contextualize it is astounding. Adam Neely always says “repetition legitimizes repetition legitimizes” and it’s true. You can make anything work if you put your all into it.

@@peteroselador6132 "Play it wrong once and it's a mistake. Play it wrong twice and it's part of the song."

@@hotwaff R E P E T I T I O N L E G I T I M I S E.

Can anyone explain to me wtf he means by horizontal and vertical composition? He lost me at that part xD

Lmaooo

LOL!

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if you think about it this also applies to fermented foods

@@visakanv lol It's like blue cheese or red wine. An acquired taste for the snobbiest of musical elitists.

How is a "sweet misnote" different from dissonance? That's all part of music theory.

@@alhfgsp now That u ask, i'm wondering too... hard to explain in words.. But i think it's in the overall composition... if we purposely sing a B note or Bb note in a C major chords, they just become CM7 or C7. Or some chords we already knew... Doesnt seems too impressive... So i think the composition play a role, where the placing of the sweetmisnote will give such weird sound, but unexpectedly pleasant...

@@sentival Do you have any examples of songs like that? Sounds like an interesting concept

Exactly what i thought lol

That's because you're a Pink Floyd fan. Of course you thought it was cool. But fr, no hate Pink Floyd is awesome... always so trippy.

@@ethan9560 I’m not and I thought it sounded fine lmao

@@kamdynfoster9873 Yeah, it's a cool chord either way, but I just thought it was funny that his pfp matched the sound so well.

I hear Zelda music in that chord.

Yes. Yes they do.

Jacob: notes, do what I say or else. Notes: *plays the most incredible chord ever.

The mic doesn't though

They do

i was your thousandth like

Doing crack is probably a wrong decision. Molesting children is a wrong decision. Let's not get stupid here bud.

I love that a lot of life is about interpretation. Wrong decisions can absolutely be made, but whether you use THAT experience to do something positive with it, will determine if it's a wasted opportunity or not.

Not really.

so you read the title and didnt actually listen to the video?

@@renhope9092 To clarify, 'Everybody" isn't required to study anything to hear how one note works with other notes. For instance, Wes Montgomery, one of the greatest of all time. Never touched a theory book and didn't read a note of score. You or i can do the same. You just have to love music.

@@renhope9092 no I did both, please read my comment again without a preconceived idea of what you think I’m saying

@@toddkreuzburg4162 I should clarify as well: I’m not saying Jacob is wrong here at all. It’s just that as a professional musician and as a teacher I’ve run into a prevailing attitude of people who “play by feel” without realizing that they’re playing without intention. What he’s talking about in this video can’t replace an understanding of music, and I’m not talking about a theory book. Wes Montgomery clearly knew what he was playing, what the chords were, and which notes went with the chords. I’ll never argue that you need a theory book to do that. What I am arguing is that in order to play remotely like Wes, you need to learn a lot about music and can’t just stab in the dark, which is what I worry some will get from this video. That’s all

well you actually have to play the consequence xD if it's just in your head how is anyone supposed to know what your idea was for that little weirdo note?

The teacher, between his teeth: "Dammit Jacob..."

That’s a very good quote actually Like you can say that in life to « I don’t know why you are never stoping studying, you are missing your youth » « it just hasn’t found its consequence yet »

lolol best comment

Lol!

they choose a lot of poor choices a lot of the time so theymust know

Decisions

Me: improvisation

"just play the right notes, it's not that hard"

@@drnanard9605 - Classical Musician

Very different to "there are no wrong notes" tho, Beethoven never says that because he is... You know... Actually good.

@@marcossidoruk8033 and a wrong note in classical is actually a wrong note

This quote is of a film. “The teacher of piano”.👀

That is kind of an applicable quote and yet also it's not. Classical is very rigid in that the expectation which is to follow what's written to the tiniest of details and then yes add your passion aka emotive interpretation to it...without being too individualized in your interpretation. That's why Glenn Gould was so loved by some and so disliked by others because he did what he wanted in interpretation... Jazz on the other hand is so much focused on improvisation that it's hard to compare the two in expectation of where the music takes us. Yet, to play without the emotive quality that can only come from the heart, yes it is criminal and inexcusable. I play classical, church music and jazz and there is that special place in all different types of music where it just tugs the heart of those listening because they know it really came from my heart. I try to always play with my heart though I don't always get there, I know it makes a colossal difference when I do.

"This note hasn't faced the consequences of its existence"

“This note has yet to S U B M I T”

This chord progression is RAW!

Why did I read this in Top Gear voices

"this note is fighting for equality"

if you can hear it, then follow your heart

That's Jazz 😁👍

and if "it looks straight it is straight"

Standards can be challenged

Isn't that what music is about?

Pythagorean

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LMAOOOO

Congratulations, I laughed my ass off. Here's your 10 internet points. :-)

He’s always dressed like that and been high 😎

lmao. Sending 10 more internet points. I'm into his look though and he seems wise AF. Spot on.

I hate you! PMSL!! LMAO!

YO haha

It's true though (to some extent). When you try a new, "weird" style and get used to it doesn't feel out of place anymore

That's actually a pretty smart take.

"its not an ahegao hoodie, its a work of art"

I'm pretty sure he repeats that saying in his head over and over in the morning

Thats why its one of the least listened genres today

The parallels are indeed that literal. We are all walking talking musical notes in the grand orchestra of life and we all have a unique note to play

Brilliant

Dude...

Man, that was deep, you did it

More profound than expected even though I already agreed

There is no spoon

Applies to basically everything

hahahaha fantastic comment

There are "rules" depending on genre. For example if you want to compose baroque or romantic music from the classical era, then there are rules that you should follow to compose for those specific genres, but if you are to compose a more contemporary and modern classical piece, or maybe pop/rock, or even metal, then those rules/guidelines doesn't apply anymore, it's all about context, genre and what you want to compose. Most of the great classical composers did in fact follow some rules and guidelines, and there is a reason for that since music and harmony works in a specific way. But yes, music is an art form and you can do whatever you want with music at the same time, as long as you think it sound good for yourself that's the most important thing. Additionally, I would say that it's essential and important for all musicians to study music theory and harmony on at least a basic level, just to learn how frequencies, dissonances and overtones work, why they work that way and how to treat them. With this knowledge, you can choose when to break the rules, why to do it and thus having complete control knowledge over what you do with your music.

It's usually around Music Theory II-III where you realize that these are just rules for a very specific type of music and are irrelevant for most other types, but you still have to finish the sequence to graduate.

Bruhh hahhahahaha

Every mic will fit with enough duct tape

Maybe the stagehand was mesmerized by his words too, lol

You just gotta put the right clip on

1:15

A Jacob Collier -one who Jacob Collies

Impressive

@@EpicBlooFox niiiceeee

Not to brag but I'm actually a bit of an expert on Jacob Colliering

@@Sumnerstrain 😂

Is it me or did he not even say that?

true

bold of you to assume Jacob Collier isn't an anime protagonist

@@Hemels_Breed I don't think he said it either...

You just have to believe in the heart of the notes!!

Stop you're giving me nightmares.

when you've been playing the keys for 5 minutes and its fine and then the part where you sing backup vocals starts to approach and the microphone decides to go home

@@gobbelgub4031 Now you've just caused me a panic induced heart-attack, it's not funny anymore.

Was doing backup/keys for a concert in our college back then and my mic just started bowing down on me 😂 Thankfully, the Student Affairs Head was kind enough to fix it for me.

Oh so its literally every microphone stand? Where are engineers when you need them?

my god is your comment profound beyond profound! Its like one of those wise realizations you come to after reaching an unrealsitic amount of experitise in a subject...

Lego set.

You're oversimplifying but I like where your head is at. A lot of people have this assumption that you have to be taught or told by an "expert" of any given subject to give creedence to the subject to which you are referring. But what I've always realized is that SOMEONE had to figure things out on their own to write about the subject you're learning. With that said, I firmly believe some people really are "naturals" and they are meant to do the "thing" they do. Jacob is a very clear example of this idea. He just "gets it". Thus the phrase, "you can't teach that."

This is me when I was studying the philosophical and axiomatic foundations of mathematics. I used to think math was the one subject that was true and impenetrable, but that notion quickly fell apart upon further study.

i was told that doing cocaine and sleeping with prostitutes was wrong but just wait until i make it correct

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yes

Came here looking for someone to make this connection. I thought the exact same thing.

Heard (and felt) that too!

Holy shit it really does!

same here

No, he said every problem has a solution. He didn't say fuck around and out, and he said work out and resolve the dissonant notes stepwise or chromatically in the next chord. I know you're part joking but that's a very reductive take

@@cyanhallows7809 I would have suspected he had another intentions with such statement, and of course i was totally joking. Either way im glad someone actually managed to take a joke.

@Kristopher Chavez You don't understand. - his point does not boil down to fuck around and find out. His point boils down to every note being accessible under any harmony in the under the right execution. Trial and error, or just doing what you want is perhaps good advice, but it is not what Jacob is saying in this paticular video. Your example of a house being built on a foundation is beyond stupid. That is just a factual statement where as the comment I responded to was I as mentioned, a reduction and a misconstruction of the point. I understand the intial comment was in a jovial sprit. Your comment clearly isn't. If you want to call me an elitist prick Kristopher, you can

YES that's how art works, or life in general, really

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and which word was that?

@@nandakoryaaa um.

@@nandakoryaaa "weird"

And it's still the most pretentious way to explain what he is trying to convey. This guy is a horrible teacher. The only master class he teaches is how to say everything in the most convoluted way possible so everyone goes, "oooh, what a musical genius."

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"hmm, how about we give this A a little friend. How about... a Db?" "Now what I love to do is add a little bit of piano just to compliment the trumpet. I think it adds some more personality to the music!" "Mr. Dan, now he's a wonderful guy, he sent me over these beautiful vocals, and it really gives this piece life. It's gone from a *slow swaying* to *head bobs*" "Now this is my favorite part of the piece. It's basically a few blips and blops, and they are basically talking with each other in order to kinda fill in the background."

@@homemadefilms5718 nailed it

This was the best one yet!

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Its called a poncho, you unacculturated plebian...

Fashionable. I feel like some napkins could spice things up

Yo epretroll

lolll

That's not a bad outfit, you just lack confidence.

That lesson from Victor Wooten is etched in my mind.

I worked that one out myself long ago, I have a somewhat forgiving audience though, just me.

@@DR-nh6oo you're lucky! Some people have that same audience and it's not at all forgiving

alvareo92 Somewhat forgiving, somewhat abusive….I was having a positive moment, lol.

Me studying jazz: "Damn, I hit a bad note on the strong beat. Should I try to resolve it or hold that note until it resolves on its own?" Sax player: "Hold my beer."

Well said dude. Relatively speaking, I know very little about music from an educational standpoint. However, I'd like to think I have a pretty good ear. With that said, I am always intrigued and fixated on Jacob's videos. He's so immersed/meant to be with music that he can explain it to anyone on any level. There's a great video where he breaks music down for a child all the way up to Herbie Hancock. To paraphrase a common/cliche...but also very true...saying....If you can't explain it to a child, then you don't understand it enough.

Modern-day Mozart? ffs...

its not that complicated. this is like middle school theory.

jacob is literally one of my biggest inspirations for music but that last line made me cringe

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But their use of semitones isnt wrong or sound bad in their culture. While dissonant chords (without resolution) can sound wrong for western audience.

They use *microtones which are smaller than semitones And eastern music ALWAYS resolves usually on the 5th or the octave. It's drone music lol

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Know the rules to break them. That's creativity.

He somewhat reminds me of magnus carlson

This applies to everything really, there are "incorrect beginner moves" when you're just starting out, then when you become really great at something, you can see the value in those "incorrect beginner moves" and start to use them in skillful ways.

I understand what you are saying but this analogy isnt really the best fitting for the example he is giving, in his example he is using he is saying that any note can FIND a possible combination of OTHER notes to fit in NOW - as in you playing a chord NOW. Whereas your chess analogy has to do with two different moments in time, when you play a move in chess that you will LATER come back to make use of, that is a very different concept of like sowing a plant and harvesting it way way in the future. Whereas his example is something that can be fixed in the very instance. For example you cant play a weird note and let it be, then move on, then play that note again and add to it - well actually hold on, now that i am thinking about it... if say he plays a C major chord then plays a random like single note hit of F# (the most dissonant note i can think of in a C major scale) that at this moment will sound weird and off.. but then if everytime he goes back to that F# and adds something to it that starts to closely tie it back to the C major scale, to "smoothen" then transition from F# into something can link back to C major.. i guess then in that sense it would be a smart reward for the listener, kind of like a piece of event in a movie that doesnt make sense and confusing, but everytime we revist it we give u more clues and more clues untill it finally somehow ties in with the main story. Sorry I am high, but you know what I guess you are right after all, I just in real time typed my thoughts coz im stoned, but super interesting thought

@@thebicycleman8062 Welcome to being young and high, just don't turn into the losers where "being high" is 50% of their personality lol

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Agreed, that slide always catches me. Theres so much honesty in that performance. Theres a quality in honesty that showmanship can't make up for. Nirvana's version of Man who sold the world and disturbed version of Shout are the only covers ive head that are so good that I can't believe they're covers.

Can hear It clearly in my head as you explained it... Good example

@@mr_space_toast1074 Johnny Cash’s cover or Hurt by Nine Inch Nails is another one that to me feels so incredibly authentic and personal that it’s hard to believe it’s a cover.

Where can i listen to this?

@@improvingguitarist1595 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nNiVmrKTs8msc2w.html The solo starts at 2:48.

Me: doing what Jacob wants I can follow my heart but I don't know what it has to offer, I need to know how to make things sound the way I want them to do On that note, anyone got advice for that? Getting the sound in your head on piano

@@vpnmagia2120 That's practise. The more I've been playing piano, the more easily I can make it do what I want

@@linux_b1969 you spelt practise [verb]. It's practice [noun].

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Gotta have that foundation. Gotta know the rules to transcend them. Rules can only be transcended by following a higher law.

@@corytrees3797 not really? It's more about knowing the instrument then knowing whatever "rules" exist

@@corytrees3797 All rules are made up by people. Just because a lot of people agree on them doesn't mean they are always objectively better.

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anyone who wears a carpet as an outfit has my full attention

It's a mexican hooded poncho, you can tell by the design of the collar.

you should learn music! it’s a super funny hobby!

Exactly! There is no right and wrong, there is just a culture and an universe that doesn’t fit to your standards! So you have a choice, try to make them fit to you or try to make you fit to them…

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link?

How did you get a checkmark but at the same time did not get a checkmark?

@@funguy-yt7632 He's Jacob's long lost brother

@@funguy-yt7632 lol I think the color is just because it's the uploader of the video, not a verification

@@junglefett you are correct, but I am talking about how Vedant Chauhan has a checkmark without being verified

Great, now I've twelve restraining orders.

@@ivosamuelgiosadominguez6649 jail is just a room, friend

I know you're joking, but there are actual rules in life and not so much in music or art.

@@haroldseah306 music has loads of rules too (phrasing, techniques, music theory, etc) but there are rooms for improvisation

@@XaliberDeathlock Officer I swear I did not break any law I just thought there was room to improvise!