I actually really like the idea of a fairy cursing an eleven-year-old boy and his innocent servants, because fairies were sort of . . . well . . . fickle and malevolent.

The bonding over their shared mother tragedy makes more sense once you realize they're both named Martha

Sympathising Gaston totally ruined the point of the character. Gaston was supposed to be the antithesis of the Beast; where the Beast is unappealing and monstrous on the outside but kind-hearted and generous on the inside, Gaston is the opposite; attractive and charismatic on the outside, but monstrous on the inside. Making him sympathetic ruins that mirroring.

Emma Watson *in a heavy British accent* “iM fRoM pAriS”

In the animation the servants were furniture because the beast saw them as objects and not people. Its a metaphore goddamit.

At least this film had one redeeming feature: it's a great comparison to show why the original worked.

Belle was kind and humble, and she was educated. She wasn’t condescending but just brushes away the misunderstandings of the town. Emma Watson’s Belle was literally the most annoying person ever, she was constantly rude to people and never bothered to communicate to them. They were rude in return and she came to the conclusion that the reason they don't like her is because she's so much better than them.

If they really wanted to take a feminist "Belle has a job and faces patriarchy" route, fine no prob, I just don't get why they didn't make her an aspiring author instead of inventor??? It would have connected all the dots! 1) It's the logical continuity of her well-known passion for reading, so it sounds less forced. 2) That makes her having her own independent aspiration, instead of ironically making her a copypaste of her father, a man. 3) The Beast being already cultured and literature enthusiast in the movie, her writing would be a new way to make him evolve and step out of superficiality. At first he would just see in Belle a pretty woman and think that "gentleman manners", a beautiful castle, pretty dresses and exuberant dinners are enough to make her happy. Finding out later about her talent and being touched by her writing would be like meeting her for the first time and make him understand more what she needs (a literal take of "reading through" her) 4) While reading wasn't forbidden for women, being a female author on the other hand was more complicated! Allowed, but subject to hard criticism. Madame de Villeneuve, the original author of the tale wrote herself in her preface something like "I hope that me being a woman won't influence too much the reading". And even if things have evolved, it's a topic that is still relevant... So more impactful than a naive, not relatable "WoMeN dOn'T rEaD" line that makes the viewer vaguely outraged for 2sec. 5) Speaking of relevance, it would bring an other dimension to the "Belle" song. By adding a couple of speaking lines, it would enlighten the fact that she can write as much as she can, ultimately even without bad intent people can't help but mostly comment on her appearance (a struggle Emma Watson herself must be familiar with btw). Apparence being... you know... the topic of the tale. During the song Belle could submit her work to the printing house for the local newspaper instead of going to the bookshop, leading smoothly to that theme without denaturing the animated movie. 6) To make the Beast more special to her, instead of making the father heartwarmingly perfect, he could himself being reluctant about her career, agreeing that she's talented, but out of worry encouraging her to lower her ambitions. It could also work if she was an inventor actually, but him having a different job would make him more easily belittle at first how it's important for her. The Beast would be the only person she knows to genuinely support her firmly. She would evolve as more confident thanks to him, so there would be a character development on her side too, and a special bond between them. 7) Since her mother was also a creative, Belle would think that her mother would have understand her better than her father, and therefore MAYBE, maybe, the mother plot would make more sense and be more touching. Maybe her mother struggled as a painter and was more violently critized than her male counterparts, explaining her father's overprotection suggested sooner? 8) Gaston could praise Belle's work to seduce her, but she would instantly suspect him to be fake and read it superficially. On the contrary the Beast would give more severe feedbacks if he doesn't like a sentence, which would actually charm Belle because they're constructive and meaningful. I think that's a cool thing to show to children, and that's once again in line with "don't be fooled by the look". You know... the topic of the tale. (Also he could actually be a literate noble, but snobbish and lacking of the Beast's artistic sensitivity, which would make the story less classist- anyway I digress) 9) Other modern take, Gaston could be a more subtle toxic villain and promises to use his wealth and popularity to help her to publish novels, patronizingly stating that "he supports women, unlike his father". He would admit later when she comes back that it was obviously a fake promise to make her accept his wedding proposal and that her work is the least of his concern. In contrast to her father who would be reluctant but genuinely wishing her the best. You know... the topic of the tale. 10) Cool homage to Gabrielle-Suzanne de Villeneuve, a FEMALE 18th century writer who provided us that tale.

The whole 'teaching another girl to read' thing is what bothers me the most about this adaptation. Belle wasn't considered weird because she *could* read, it's because she liked to read, because she preferred to read over engaging any of the poor provincial townies. And boy, my introverted ass sure did relate to animated Belle preferring to lose herself in books instead of human contact. That was kind of the point of Belle, to relate to all the little girls who felt like the outcasts, alone and stuck in a little nothing town with nothing to do. Plus, how does a town with only be one literate woman end up having it's own fully stocked bookshop!?

Can't wait until the Hunchback of Notre Dame remake reveals Frollo is attracted to Esmeralda since she reminds him of his mother whom was hanged, burned, and whipped to death wile giving birth to him.

I find it genuinely fascinating that the harder Disney tries to empower their female characters in these remakes, the LESS compelling they become. The townspeople's issue with Belle was never that she could read, it's that she was a weird introvert who preferred reading over basically any other activity. They fucked this up with Mulan as well! Why is she a Jedi now? The whole point of the original was that she worked her ass off and became just as skillful a warrior as any man despite everything stacked against her. Now she just has crazy superpowers and is better than everyone to begin with.

I swear to god, Disney has had like at least 5 "first gay characters" at this point.

By making Belle so "feminist", it seems like they're saying that she's "not like other girls".

Disney poking fun at itself was cute and suprising the first couple of times, but now its just *painful*

While i also hate the "dumb, incompotent dad" trope, it DID actually serve a purpose in animated Beauty and the Beast. Belles' dad being a bit unhinged, and the town knowing it, gave Gaston less resistance to do something so horrible in his persuit of Belle.

I HATE that Beast doesn't even say "because I love her" when Belle leaves. Why TF did they give that crucial line to the goddamn teapot?!

"They bond over their mothers being dead" If that isn't the most Disney thing I've ever heard...

The whole "enchantment made the village forget" thing is so unnecessary. I always assumed that he was a secondary royal (has the title, has the money, no actual impact on the public), and this was the weird rural vacation castle that we never use, so let's stick the orphaned royal there and let him be raised by the staff so we don't have to think about him.

“That’s Ursula’s crazy sister” took me out bruh

If anything, Gaston having PTSD is an INCREDIBLY insulting caricature of former soldiers with PTSD, since Gaston is STILL unhinged, arrogant, irrational, and cruel, and we shouldn't empathize with that; otherwise, they would have given Gaston some kind of redemption arc. It's not just pointless, it actively detracts from the character.

Belle's father: picks a flower The beast: "You have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people. What say you in your defense?"

The Mom/Plague scene was so vital to the plot that I missed the entire thing in the theater because I needed to visit the toilet, and my only confusion when I returned was how I'd somehow managed to miss nothing

That opening rant against CimenaSins and other pedantic bad faith reviewers is the single greatest murder-by-words I've seen against any KZfaqr.

I know I’m late to the party, but... god, the whole mess of a situation that was LeFou is even more insulting when you think about the fact that the original Beauty and the Beast was dedicated to Howard Ashman, a gay man who died of AIDS while working on the film. Way to honor his memory, Disney...

Modern Disney: Look at us putting a gay character in our movie!! We're so Woke™! Also modern Disney: Haha we're going to make an I Hate My Wife joke

It’s so funny how in their attempt to make the movie more feminist, they made everything about it so much creepier and insulting than it ever was

I cannot stop thinking about how Emma Watson’s yellow (NOT GOLD) dress looks like a folded omelette dipped in nacho cheese. Also give her a corset or stays or something. There is no structure or historical accuracy to that flimsy thing.

Beast shows Belle his library just to show off "Look at this stuff Isn't it neat? Isn't this asshole's estate fucking sweet??"

No mention of the triplets? Gaston wanted Belle (known to the town folks as strange and special) over the attractive and accessible triplets of the original version, but the triplets were made unattractive in the live action version, thereby making Belle's beauty more important, and her special traits of less value.

I am late here but what I have noticed from the relationship of belle and the beast was that it was mostly the beast making belle fall in love with him instead of the other way around. In the original you can see that the beast was actually the one who was falling for belle which in turn making him care for her and him wanting to change things about himself because of how kind and understanding belle was. In the remake, it was just belle falling in love with the beast and while the beast remains snarky and unempathetic. Belle was just adjusting to his needs and "accepting" his flaws while she also remains snarky and being better than anyone else.

It's indeed so stupid that they added "Belle reading a girl to read" is so stupid. 50% of woman could read. Even if you were poor, you still had chances to learn to read and write. And Disney be like "Let me conveniently forget!!"

About the whole “Why would the witch do that to a child?” And “why would the witch also curse the staff?” Things. Did no one just think “Oh, the witch is an asshole” and move on? I mean, she was a witch in a fairy tale. Being mean often comes with the territory.

I heard a 14-year-old girl outside the Guardians of the Galaxy ride at Disneyland give it the most perfect critique I've ever heard: "it's beautiful but I hate it."

"If I cant live as a cup, I'll die as a cup!" The best quote 😂

I knew something felt off with the “Library Reveal” scene but I couldn’t place it until Lindsey pointed it out 🤣 It was so iconic and it felt like the start of a massive shift in the Beast’s personality and their romantic dynamic. Letting her have the library was a gift, and it was really sweet how unsure he was when he asked if Belle if she liked it. But the tone was so different in the 2017 version, and as Lindsey said, he’s just “showing off”, goddamn

the thing about belle reading books was never "omg she is so feminist she can read" it was more of "she lives in her own world, reads a lot of stories,wants adventures and doesn t care about what other people think". in the original disney movie, the people from the town say that her head is always stuck in a book and that they just don t understand how a person can care so little about her looks and the handsome hunter everyone loves. they were mostly kind to her but they just didn t care about the stories she reads about. the whole point of the story is that belle wants an adventure, a story of her own (which she gets) not "she wants to teach girls how to read and she invents stuff".

The Original: A charming Disney classic with award winning animation. The Remake: A heavily auto tuned girl falls in love with a yak.

I'd like to mention it was Emma Watson herself that made the Feminist changes, like making Belle an inventor and all that.

"Cinderella 3" is really the best of all Disney DVD-sequels. I like it.

Can we all just agree that the greatest sin this movie committed was putting Belle in that damn banana-yellow, night-dress-looking, floofy, structureless insult to the iconic beautiful original dress.

Being a combat vet, the scene where Gaston was being calmed via remembering the horror of war while being a bloodthirsty psychopath really gives the WORST possible impression of what PTSD is. It's stupid and menial, but wow did that scene piss me off.

Oh boy, if only you knew how horrible Mulan (2020) turned out to be. I’m still waiting for a good remake of an animated classic.

It’s a shame Lindsey couldn’t hold all these feelings in until Mulan 2020, because that movie takes every problem she points out here and ramps it up to 11. I want to watch her destroy that movie.

Something I realised it was absent in the 2017 movie during the relationship between Belle and the Beast? physical contact, which was increasing during the 1991 movie, at first Belle helping Beast with his wounds, then Beast taking her hands guiding her to the library, then Belle grabing Beast''s hands when he showed her his library saying thank you.....and then the dancing moment and when the Beast let her go, he played with her hair a little, showing how affectionate he became towards her, and she even touched his face before she leaves the castle, that's CHEMISTRY!, that's a little of INTIMACY, two things I never saw in the entire movie!. She was like "oh gosh I can't stand this monster"

The Original: "You've met Gastons in real life before" the Remake, crying: "Gaston is so misunderstood"

I think the meta commentary worked in Enchanted, cause its basically a parody. But when it comes to the other films, I think it cheapens the overall product.

Oh my god she predicted the live action Mulan

What I definitely can't stand from this movie is the fact that in the original; the beast was losing his "humanity" with the spell as time went by: The beast initially walked on four legs because he had forgotten how to walk on two legs, he had forgotten how to read (and Belle helps him), etc. Belle's presence made him force himself to change; To fight his curse. Belle came to bring his humanity back. And the 1991 film made us understand it very well and in a beautiful way. And NOW, in this new version it is assumed that the Beast knows how to read, walks perfectly upright, and has no other problems with his spell but with his "physical appearance". It's what I can't stand of this movie. In the original film, Belle did not find a cultured beast (who read every single book of his library 🙄), but in a bad mood as in this new film; she found someone broken, rude, almost animal, with almost no part of his humanity and returned it with her kindness and sweetness. Something that in my humble opinion, they did not demonstrate in this live-action. I love 1991 version so much 💛, too bad they didn’t made clear (or even showed!)so many morals and metaphors the original had... They just changed it so much that it feels somehow empty when you watch it.

Emma Watson had this whole thing about how corsets are bad/patriarchal and thus she wouldn’t wear one for this film. As well intentioned as she was with this, she fundamentally misunderstood was corsets are/were. Corsets, when laced properly and comfortably, function the same as bras; they support the breasts and back, as well as make the heavy skirts and petticoats of 18th century fashion wearable. Most dresses of such construction *cannot be worn without corsets* because of how fucking heavy these big ass skirts are. The tight-lacing to the point of breathing problems and squished organs was a more recent phenomena that came about when the corset was falling out of fashion, and it wasn’t all that common to begin with. Because of this line of thinking, the dress looks like some cheap, modern prom dress rather than something special and magical. That seems like a minor complaint, but it goes to show how this Hashtag Woke™️ faux progressive, Hollywood liberalism worked to the film’s detriment.

Another problem with the live action movie is that it is so dark - like literally, I can't make out most of the expressions in a lot of scenes. The animated version managed to have dimly lit scenes but you could still see everything clearly.

So when I was a child the thing I loved most about b&tb was belles love of reading. I didn't care about the magic or the true love, all I wanted was to ride around on a ladder in her library room. The thing I hated about this remake is the beast mocks her love of reading at every turn. He mocks Shakespeare and doesn't give her the library room out of love. He literally just says oh this boring room over there I don't care about, there you go. And even her library in the village became 5books on a shelf in a church. Took all the magic out of it.

The yellow dress was more of your eighth grade Miss Small Town pageant style. It seemed cheap, wasn't ultimately designed to flatter Emma, and it clearly took intermediate skill at best to make. I know that Emma refused to wear a corset regardless of the period and her choice was respected. But the only excuse for the end result that I could think of is that the costumers had some BANGING designs and they were mad that they had to scrap them.

And they moved Mrs. Potts' face from her FRONT to her SIDE! The tea pouring spout was supposed to be her nose, gawds dammit!

Honestly the old Disney movies age really well in my opinion, especially as we grow from the outdated versions of performative feminism that we used to view them with (like saying that Cinderella isn't feminist enough when that's really just victim-blaming) and that is precisely the problem with the live-action remakes. They try to improve things that don't necessarily need to be improved upon and go about it in that same performative way of the mid 2000s that we're trying to move away from.

I always considered that the staff was turned into objects because the Beast treated people as objects, and the witch wanted to reflect that. That was unfair for the staff, but it was part of the Beast's "punishment". But then the movie want me to believe the staff were cursed because they were responsible of the Beast's education and didn't help him with his cruel father... Even if the cursed people in this castle includes a child and a dog.

"Wow. Such Gay. Very Representation." - this channel makes me lmfao

Disney shouldn't be making fun of itself. That's why we have Shrek

Also, the "Belle" scene for me was so infuriating. The fashion was all over the place. They were supposed to be in a 'poor provincial town' as Belle states but a lot of people are really well-dressed. Yes, maybe some characters in the town could be richer but the change of clothes wouldn't be that drastic. idk I'm not an expert

'Wow. Your pores are so much less noticeable with my human eyes.' 'It IS you!' Is the dialogue we needed.

I'm so glad disney made an entire movie for the imdb forums

"Thanks I hate it" is now a thing for me

The worst change was turning the traffic light ladies into pink ladies, so sad 😩

And also, in Beaty and the beast (1991) Belle felt alone because she had no one to share her hobbies with. The only persone who loved books as she did, was the man from the book shop, but he is represented as a very old man, and an eventual friendship with a young girl was unlikly. In the new version of Beauty and the beast, the man from the book shop was a young and hot man! Why on earth did Belle feel alone? She had an opportunity to have a friend with her same passion for reading, there is no reason she should feel totally alone as in the previous movie.

Tbh, i dont like the trope of "disney characters making fun of disney in the movie theyre in" I just want to watch a fun fairytale i dont need or want that included

"the worst change has got be..." Lefou? "The teleportation book..." THE WHAT

adding the mom subplot could’ve been a great opportunity to show The Beast comforting Bell in a very vulnerable moment. Bell is learning that she’s lost a parent, and Beast has already experienced that hardship twice. He could have been seen becoming visibly uncomfortable as he cycles through which coping mechanism he’ll use to avoid something that’s pained him in the past. Should be get angry and scare her away? Should he remove himself physically from the scene? Maybe he tries to and at the final second, in a moment of vulnerability, he turns around and comforts Bell in a mutual moment of mourning and acceptance. That could’ve been an entire emotional climax in and of itself... but apparently they didn’t do that

Wait can you imagine how fucked up it would have been if the Beast wasn't able to break the spell? He stays a beast forever, sure, but everyone just becomes inanimate objects so he'll basically be walking around his house full of the corpses of his dead staff

I can't wait for the Beauty and the Beast 2 live-action remake where they actually show Gaston eating 4-dozen eggs every morning to help him get large. I mean they say he did it... But we can't KNOW he did unless we see it in an excruciating 20-minute scene.

Surprised you didn't highlight the removal of Beast's illiteracy. I always found that to be a fundamental plot point to his transformation as a person and his understanding of Belle. He doesn't know how to read, and so in his pride, he dismisses it as stupid and a waste of time. The irony that he has this massive library to impress people, but he can't actually enjoy any of it. As Belle teaches him to read, they bond naturally through a mutual activity. By becoming engaged in a story, he learns that he was wrong about something and Belle was right, softening his pride and opening himself up to what other people have to say. We get to see him mature. He gets excited and happy and shows new emotions. Even the story they're reading (King Arthur) has implications. He sees that an ordinary boy can be a king, which maybe deep down makes him think that maybe a beast could become a man. That's reaching a bit, maybe, but I think the correlation is there. Making him literate and removing the "teaching beast to be more human through reading" aspect undermines the entire plot, and I can't for the life of me understand why they would change that. All they had to do was adapt the broadway version, if they wanted a live action movie. That's it. Such a failure.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the Beast loves Romeo and Juliet because in the Extended Animated version, he asks Belle if she could read the story to him again and she actually asks him if he could read it to her. The Beast didn't know how to read, well, maybe a little, and she even helped him learn how to read.

Here are a few things that could've made this movie a little better. -When Belle asked for a rose it should've been a simple request. Like he insist on getting her an amazing gift for her, but didn't want anything fancy. So she simply asks for a rose. It didn't even have to be a rose. She could've asked for a nice flower. Showing her to be humble and a bit odd. -While the transporting book may have been a little dumb, it could've been a good plot device. When Belle sees her mother, instead of dying from the plague, it reveals that she actually abandoned Belle and her father when she was baby. Showing that she may have been a beauty on the outside but a beast on the inside. It's also a better explanation on why her father doesn't talk about her. He didn't want to taint the idea of her for his daughters sake. Sure, it does make the scene of him making that sculpture of him painting her rather sad. Showing that he still has feelings for a woman that no longer loved him, but this is still a better premise than what we got. -Add some real goddamn emotions! This pretty much goes for all the live-action versions. -Should've swapped the actors for Mrs. Pots and the Dresser. Hollywood pretty much just gives roles to whose more popular first and talented second. The subplot of the Dresser and Piano(don't know the actual name for it) could've been better if done right. The Dresser could say she has a lovely singing voice but actually doesn't. The Piano is so in love with her that he actually thinks she has the voice of an angel. It could've be nice and funny, as long as they didn't stretch it for too long.

"Where are the Disney Mums?????" The mortality rate during childbirth was very very high in European history

"We have no obligation to make art, history, or statements. But to make money it is often important to make art, history, or some significant statement." I will give this guy points for honesty...

The DRESS 🤢 it's shocking how they could go from the absolutely beautiful, almost ethereal take on the original Cinderella dress in 2015 (although, I do kinda wish that they had gone back to the original silvery-white/very light blue dress and her burnt orange hair, but I understand it in that the marketing for Cinderella has been yellow haired and in a bright blue dress for decades now) to the pre-teen school dance yellow smock in 2017. So Emma Watson didn't want to wear a corset, whatever, but you can create stunning costumes without corsets????

I know people always accuse Belle of having Stockholm syndrome in the original movie and yes, that might have had some part in it. But the way I see it, Belle didn't start to like the beast until he started being more kind and compassionate to her and others. Before that she was willing to leave, and she tried to. In the original movie Belle fell in love with him because he started to show his best self to her. But in this version the beast never goes through character development. He's just a huge jerk the whole time. But for some reason Belle still loves him? So honestly I think Belle in this movie has more Stockholm syndrome than Belle in the original movie. :/

“Why were the servants punished?” Because the Enchantress was a jerk. That’s why.

Old Disney: Enchanting New Disney: Pandering

I will always remember my sister, who LOVES beauty and the beast, dragging me to watch this with her for emotional support. She knew it was going to be bad but still wanted to see it, you could see her soul dying a bit in the glow of the move theater

I started to realise something. If the objects just told Belle that the Beast had to fall in love to be human again, then Belle would be forced to fall in love, which is wrong on many levels and would go against the theme that Beauty and the Beast was built off of.

"We can't leave things to people's imaginations. Then they might go make an Internet about it." "Go make an Internet about it" is now a phrase I will use on the regular. Thank you.

I never saw the Beast being cursed young as a plot hole, or even a problem. Yeah, the Enchantress cursed him when he was 11. So what? She's magic, she does what she likes, she doesn't care what you think is "logical".

I feel like Disney fundamentally missed the message in their own story when they made the live action remake. In the original animated film even Belle admits that Gaston is handsome. He's good looking, very talented, successful, charismatic, and popular with everyone, especially the ladies. But the defining trait that makes Belle a heroic character is that she sees past the outside of people to who a person really is inside. She won't fall for Gaston's charms because she sees that he is a monster inside, and she sees that the Beast is a good man inside, even if he is ugly outside. But in the live action remake Belle is no longer special for rejecting the popular guy. He's not popular in the remake. He's not even likeable. The original story had more value because it is more true to real life. People chase toxic relationships because they care more about looks, popularity, and material gain than inner character. And let's be honest; most girls will flip for a jerk with good looks and money. The original film inspired girls to be like Belle and avoid the Gastons of the world. But it's not much of a lesson if he's already unlikeable.

It’s like someone watched Pride and Prejudice, didn’t understand what was good about Pride and Prejudice, and then…..tried making Pride and Prejudice.

"Thanks, I hate it" is a great way to sum up the last three years.

Wow, even Beauty and the Beast decides to go the "just have the couple argue and be snarky with each other and they'll have automatic chemistry" route

So basically, the Disney remakes: 1). Try and fail to fix the "problems" with the originals. 2). Add a healthy dose of annoying "progressive" subplots, character traits, etc. 3). Leave out everything that made the originals good in the first place.

Yes! The original had the Beast be an immature, often tantrum-throwing person and Belle’s respect for him was *earned*- he had to actively change his behaviour. She didn’t become his “life coach” and the narrative didn’t pander to the often-used stereotype that good girls can ‘change’ bad, mean guys. Rather, the development of their relationship is quite inspiring and romantic. That was, in fact, more ‘feminist’ than the entire live-action movie 😂 In the live-action movie, the Beast has a tragic backstory and is shown to be charming and misunderstood which kind of justifies his bad actions. There is no chemistry, he has no expressions and he doesn’t do anything really to change her opinion of him. It’s just... bland.

*in the happiest most irritated tone* "THANKS I HATE IT." *EDIT* HOLY SHIT OVER A THOUSAND LIKES??! YOU GUYS ARE SO SWEET

Personally, I didn't like the live-action BB is because they never showed off how clever Belle can be. I'm not talking about her book-smarts. Animated-Belle had guile, she managed to tricked Gaston out of her house, while Watson just vents off her disgust and frustration in a song.

The remake of The Jungle Book was actually saved by that single rewrite. Having Mogli set the forest on fire was a fantastic moment. It gave the story a moral dilemma, where the original had practically none at all.

Someone also pointed out that there are black people, gay people, even people cross dressing in this small provincial town so the only oppressed people are well read white women and that really made me think.

This movie feels like it was directed by a writer for Buzzfeed.

you know what pissed me off?? THE FLOWER WASN'T GLOWING. GLOW ROSE, GLOW.

This reminds me of when The Take did a video called, "Cinderella: Stop Blaming the Victim". The character has gotten criticism in more recent years for not taking action to get out of her awful situation. They defend her by putting her story in its proper context.

"WE DON'T LIKE WHAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IN FACT IT SCARES US" haves to be my favorite thing ever

"Look at my library! Isn't it grand?" "The one at Hogwarts is bigger." "WHAT!?!"

GASP Ursula's crazy sister!!!!! that's it. that's the entire plot of that film.

wow, that Walt quote at the end really hits. just had a conversation about how the old disney movies feel like they have so much more depth than new ones, that you keep noticing more layers and poetry as you get older and it's still relatable and beautiful and a good story, while newer movies just feel like, less depth ? and cynical self-criticism, which is supposed to be appealing to older audiences I think, but Walt was the one who had it right. just make good, magical stories with depth and humanity and it will be compelling to all ages

Who's here rewatching old Lindsay Ellis videos in mourning of her leaving the internet 😓