Ironically, this was used for the DVD of a Speedy compilation. Speedy was thought to have been racist towards Mexicans, but they actually loved the mouse. However, the DVD contained the message anyways.

@@kaelisprime9087 i honestly do not see the irony in that

Honestly, this is fantastic.

@@joshmbrown42 How is it racist? Because they wanted to make a Mexican cartoon character that the Hispanics in the USA would like? Honestly, I'll never understand why people thought he was a racist character.

@@Zathren more a stereotype than race thing

I honestly respect that more than Disney going, "look at this classic trope -- isn't it stupid?" in a post-Shrek world.

That reminds me when people form the US tried to "cancel" speedy Gonzales, because it was offensive to Mexicans...ugh! I really hate this outrage culture!

Jonathan Sweet I respect that

Disney has released some of their older stuff on DVD with just that sort of commentary.

@@Kyorisu It's not about how funny they are. They have straight-up blackface

I don't know if its still around, but there used to be a place like this for apes and the like here in the UK. It was a park that would rescue monkeys etc taken as pets, ones wounded, ones freed from testing facilities/poachers, and bring them into an environment where their ultimate goal was rehabilitation. Get them socialised with other members of the species, get them their medical care, get them back out. Of course, some where never released for a variety of different reasons, but the organisation was genuinely ethical and alleviated a lot of suffering *whilst* still serving as entertainment and education for the public

Wildlife conservationist here that has had experience with captive animals (even if my current job is actually me reading sound data for whales in the Ocean, but that’s another story)... You are correct. And it should also be noted that the message that “no Wild animal belongs in captivity” is a bad message too. There are dozens, maybe hundreds, of notable endangered animals that have been saved from extinction due to captive breeding programs. There are some select few animals I think don’t belong in captivity, namely great apes (due to their social nature and intelligence, but I can let that slide since great apes are doing terribly in the wild) and cetaceans (with exceptions like Bottlenose dolphins), but my point still stands.

@@andrewheaney4874 My level of expertise only comes with watching a bunch of panda videos, but I'm glad that you brought up that statement too. Simply because the animal is wild doesn't mean you shouldn't call for a professional to help, or ask the professional to release it even if the animal is still undergoing problems. There's a whole reason why they're called professionals in animal care or zoology.

I'd also like to add the story of a couple who took a chimpanzee in and raised it like a human. If I could remember, that chimpanzee was eventually dropped to a rehab when she started being too aggressive for the household, and that chimp, once thrown in with a bunch of other horny monkeys, was terrified, distressed and confused by this sudden arrangement and has developed depression and existential crisis, because now she's forced to act like something she never thought she was. Thankfully she eventually coped with it, but literally just after two years, she died. They speculated that it was either poaching or homicide from another chimp, and it's honestly not far to imagine because chimpanzees are very aggressive, even to each other, and even if she's been socialising for two years, she was so inexperienced to save her own life that she really couldn't. And even if it was indeed a poacher, she was most likely shot because she's never encountered this problem.

@@carlbradley3175 Yes, I know what you're talking about. I think the discovery channel has a mini series about that ape sanctuary.

And the best part is that in original Mulan, she had flaws when training but she was able to overcome them with perceverance. But on the Mulan Remake, she was a robotic impossibly perfect human being that were better than everyone else from the start and easily overcoming any flaws of obstacles that she had. That's not a figure that little girls can mirror themselves in, it just feels like an impossible character that we can't inspire ourselves because they are already perfect. Now take spiderman as an example, probably the most famous superhero, he has flaws, struggles with his low paying job, and has his own problems that he manages to overcome, with hardships but he does it, that's a character that little boys AND girls can mirror themselves in, he becomes stronger learning from his mistakes, he's not an ultra perfect princess that nails everything from the beggining to show how GIRLS (and that's important, because little boys also liked watchin Mulan back then) and only girls are stronger than anyone else. Disney movies before could be watched by anyone and still be enjoyed, but nowadays is like having a lecture from an angry parent.

@@luvmypolly new Mulan is a Mary Sue and therefore an unattainable standard. Old Mulan is a mess and I strongly identify with that.

I loathe the Remake and the people who say that the OG was sexist. Especially calling the amazing "I will make a men out of you" training sequence sexist and bad and cutting I out the original. :(

@@skylarjohnson7779 I completely agree.

@@Isabelle-hv6ny "Especially calling the amazing "I will make a men out of you" training sequence sexist and bad and cutting I out the original. :(" That scene is amazing PRECISELY because it's meant to be sexist (at least, that's how I see it; bear with me). The song basically says that you need to man up in order to be a soldier. And guess what? Mulan does not, and yet she vanquishes all her obstacles, by using her mind, heart and will, instead of mindless muscle. It's almost as if, I don't know, the remake writers took that "man up" at face value, instead of delving even an inch into its meaning. Yeah, the remake is garbage.

Hi

Or like my parents and I

First you and Sarah Z, now you're here? Since when were you BreadTube-adjacent?

Seeing your comment here is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one at that!

THAT WAS DISNEY'S MISTAKE

@@golagiswatchingyou2966 She never sold her body to anyone, you twit. She used what she had to get what she wanted... aka she was resourceful. Are you going to try saying being resourceful is a weak trait? By demeaning women's sexuality and however they choose to use it, you demean women. Sexuality isn't the only thing a woman can use but part of being strong and intelligent is knowing what tricks are in your arsenal and when and how to use them to your advantage. The old Jasmine didn't have a guard she could rouse into disobedience to Jafar like the new one did. Unlike the new Jasmine, she tried to use herself to fight the battle instead of calling on a guard (with a speech about loyalty, etc.) to do it for her. So, with this in mind, which one is the superior Jasmine? Which one is more brave? Which one is more proactive? Which one is more resourceful? Which one is stronger? Which is more admirable? The one who says something to try to get others to do something for them or the one who does that something themselves?

Haylla2008 if anything, JAFAR was the one trying to sell his body and then gain power by betrayal. Sure the guy looked like the slimiest of slimes, but that was indeed why he had that snake staff, to get around that.

​@@golagiswatchingyou2966 Sure if, by agreeing with you and my feelings being affected in the slightest, you mean the exact opposite. But believe whatever makes you sleep better at night. I've surmised that's what people who don't know how to make a coherent argument usually decide to do in cases such as these.

One line in the original where Jasmine says "I am not a prize to be won" says a lot more than anything they were going for her character in the remake. Yes, even her song too.

Naomi Scott is an OK actress, but I hated what they did with Jasmine's character in the remake. 1) In the original, she wanted to marry out of love and not because of the law. This brought about a side we can sympathize with, while giving the story romance. In the remake, they gave her Jafar's role. She wants to be Sultan because she thinks she can do a better job than the current Sultan. 2) Her song. Jasmine is throwing aside guards, ripping down tapestries, all while saying how she won't be silenced. What does she do the next moment? Basically roll over and beg. This basically crushes the whole "feminine empowerment" flat. How cool would it have been if she had snatched one of the guards' sword and fought her way back to the throne room?

Based also source ?

@@ujjwalmishra8962 It's a pretty well known quote, in response to Spirited Away, I believe. You can literally look up just part of the quote on Google and it'll pop up.

Miyazaki movies do be hitting different

Miyazaki always b poppin’ off, he’s an icon, and he is the moment

@@benedictdwyer2608 Now come on now

Not to mention Cinderella is a story about Abuse, it shouldn't be her job to save herself and such.

@@asimhussain8716 No, what I'm saying it shouldn't be there JOB to do it on there own, they shouldn't HAVE to do it on there own

Agreed 100%

Even the _Cinderella_ live-action remake wouldn't be made today with a moral like that. Our institutions have literally come to believe that kindness and humility are insufficient and even condescending traits to uphold today. In the wake of George Floyd's murder, the national college-prep school network KIPP actually voted to remove their slogan "Be kind, work hard", for this very reason.

yes exactly she's a victim of abuse but she manages ,stays strong, settles for everything she's given and make the best out of those circumstances. the one thing i didn't like in the remake is her meeting the prince. it made it look like she only went there to meet the prince when in the animation she had no idea who the prince was etc and just wanted to go there for a little glimpse of freedom, a change of air. when people say she was dependant on the prince, it kind of frustrates because in reality her step family was dependant on her and the prince was only an enabler/plot device to make her situation better. also she's not supposed to save herself the point being that she's a victim of abuse.

In Princess Mononoke- the movie with the most badass and varied women- none of the women ever had to announce what strong independent women they were. If you are a strong independent women, you should never have to say it.

I wish I could like a comment more than once

Basically, Studio Ghibli heroines "show" what modern-day Disney heroines "tell"

@@SilverFireworks If you claiming you're the king, you're not the king.

And what's better is, Ghibli's female characters were still human. They had fears and emotions and motivation! they don't just walk around like emotionless planks of wood, acting like "this is me a strong woman, look how strong I am".

It's probably going to be about global warming too let's be real here

This is funny because it can be true,scary

If Aquaman squeezed it in you can bet Disney will too!!

Holy shit, Ariel is getting legs not for a man but to spread the word about "Contamination bad" isn't it?

Honestly on paper I don't have a problem with that since there is a lot of trash dumped into the ocean.. but this story takes place way before the 21st century and they're probably gonna mention it once and never again.

@@orionkeenan6247 i mean, a few bad apples does spoil the whole bunch

@@imperial2252 yeah, i mean... you can't NOT make rot spread if untreated.

@@imperial2252 But people often say as if "a few bad apples" is insignificant, as in "oh, it's just a few bad apples. Leave them alone." when the entire phrase is indicating that "a few bad apples" is NOT, in fact, insignificant.

Also shouldn’t packing factories sort out the good apples from the bad and throw the bad ones away

I actually liked both movies!

Holy crap you just made me realize why Returns didn’t land for me as much

Your goddamn right.

That’s not their fault. YOU try inserting commentary into something which was never designed to have commentary. It can be unsurprisingly difficult.

@@Shadowkey392 If "say something" is too hard, they could very well go with the other option lumi7890 offered.

Girl boss paint is, for the majority of a general audience, palatable and inoffensive. Legitimate critique of systemic sexism, racism, etc. is threatening, disorienting, and possibly alienating. Big corporate entities like Disney have little incentive to tell stories that seek to undermine existing power structures. Interesting commentary is inherently going to be more divisive.

@@TheSongwritingCat Is "girl boss paint" any different from "princess paint"? I agree with what you're saying to an extent. But we know the "princess paint" worked at reinforcing those gender stereotypes and images of patriarchal ideas of "femininity". These are broad strokes not nuanced detail. If we want that has Disney ever been the place to go? So the question is does shifting to "girl boss paint" ultimately help in where we want to go in addressing these systemic issues? I often wonder whether we get dragged into the "girl boss" is bad. Because that's what that Patriarchal mindset wants us to. While ironically calling for some nuanced complex character that communicates feminist ideas. But if Disney is propaganda (historically and now) then this is what you get. Simple, clear and two dimensional characters that appeal to children. "Girl boss" isn't bad. I do fear how Ellis is using the term woke. And while maybe in honest faith it's a voice among many who aren't. Who have a very "unwoke" agenda. That's not to say she shouldn't critique or analyse these films, but it's a good idea to be very careful how you frame/structure it.

Well they can't do that because that would admit there was something wrong with this woke message. And heaven forbid any movement, progressive as it might be, could find missteps because of inadequacies of the human condition regardless of gender, sexuality or race.

True story. Read what happened when they actually decided to “free Willy”

@@katesteventon5296 i know😢

@@katesteventon5296 So tragically ironic. But at least, Willy tasted true freedom before he died.

Of course they didn't show, because the movie was over.

You want to know what annoys me most about that song? It's all done her her head...TWICE! It was already a pointless song to add in because as you said Jasmine was already awesome and that was never an issue for her, but to sing a song about not sitting silent in your head? That is just a complete waste of time and negates the entire purpose of even doing it to begin with. Animation Jasmine would never.

I love her but my favorite Disney heroines are Esmeralda and Mulan

Same with Mulan. She was already a bad-ass to begin with. Sadly, Disney ruined her in live-action remake. Can't wait to see Hollywood and Disney go bankrupt... We need a new decentralized Hollywood.

I liked new jasmine more. She didn’t kiss jafar infront of Aladdin in the new movie

ehh I mean Princess Jasmine was also incredibly sexualized for absolutely no reason. I don’t think that you should be calling a pedophilic and orientalist character empowering.

The fact that they keep TELLING that message reveals that they don't actually believe it. A truly empowering movie would start with the unsaid assumption that strong female characters commonly exist, and never waste a second trying to prove it. This is why we get so many boring female characters, whose only role it to be an "inspiration to all the girls out there". How about some interesting characters of all genders with meaningful human flaws? Just imagine the case where you keep telling your daughter "you are NOT less capable than any of the boys!" Probably it didn't even cross her mind in the first place, but now you put that idea in her head. It's like when out of the blue someone tells you that you are most definitely NOT in danger. Now you are suddenly afraid. Similarly, the term "girl power" immediately reveals that it is not actual power, otherwise it would be just called "power".

Tbh the thing that also kinda bugs me - these "strong female leads" are always fighting. Always behaving like bad bitches or something. Some are rude for no reason just for sake of being "strong". They're always trying to say that "strong females" are the ones who behave stereotypically manly, when they're not. You can wear nice dresses, sing and dance, being someone's wife or mother and still be a strong character, what's wrong with it? You can even be weak physically and still be a strong character? You can be shy and quiet or overall behave stereotypically feminine and still be a strong character?

Show don't tell seems to be a lost lesson

@@anna84259 It's like being a strong female character requires conflict, anti social behaviour and generally being a cunt. This link; www.wagerbop.com/whats-different-between-weight-classes-ufc/ shows some stats about UFC and the difference between weight classes. Watching a movie with some 5'2" chick carving through 20 6'2"goons each with a good 30-40 pounds on her? Ok, that's fine coz Jet Li or Donny Yen could do it without anyone rolling their eyes but that's because they aren't in high heels and skin tight leather pants. Making more believable characters is not really going to meet with the approval of the feminist agenda though I imagine. #vaginapower!

Am I the only one who thinks that acting like being a "strong independent woman" and being "rescued by a prince" are two mutually exclusive things is harmful? I swear that now society is doing to the girls what they used to do to the boys. Nowadays everyone acknowledgdes how harmful and stupid it was to teach boys that showing emotions and any sign of weakness is bad and on the other hand we want to teach little girls that depending on someone they trust and love in hard situations is wrong?

Paul Cory yup

@@melize7035 we have always been at war with eurasia

Who cares about what some perceive as racism? Yeah that movie had some black crows. That's racist somehow?

@@Gyvulys Ooooof

@@Gyvulys It´s been a while since I´ve seen it, so tell me if I´m misremembering, bit weren´t the crows super helpful and didn´t portray any negative stereotypes?

I mean some people enjoy looking at plot holes even when they don't matter because it can kidna be fun tbh

YEP

Pull Yourself Up By The -Boot- High Heel Straps, GirlBoss!

This is why I watch 30 Rock on repeat forever, and nothing else. I like my characters stupid and selfish.

The former is easy. The latter is hard. People prefer easy solutions too often. And corps especially aren't going to push for major changes; if they push too hard, people might stop spending money!

Its a movie. Save to say, they don't want to "fix feminism". They want to get people in movie theater seats and appeal to other focus groups etc.

Yeah but when she sings she can dust people like Thanos

@@videogamenostalgia idk of its just me but her singing kinda sucks to me. At least for that power ballad

That would require taking risks and being creative, neither of which Disney is too keen on.

@@Neonach That's a problem in Hollywood in general. Disney certainly but then you have all the 80s franchise sequels (terminator, rambo, top gun). The Marvel and DC movies. Remakes of movies that aren't even that old (Grudge). The list goes on and on

Well, I don't see problems with their past.

@@Gyvulys For the time it’s was impossible to not to have problems as they had certain beliefs back then. Now we know those actually hurt certain groups of people and want others to not fix but be more mindful off when telling stories. Just because you can’t see the problems does not mean they aren’t there.

@@Neonach😂😂😂

I'm not entirely sure that they actually care deeply about writing in strong female characters; I think it has a lot more to do with capitalizing on current cultural climate for profit, more than anything else. When you look at how little effort or thought seems to go into the writing of these female characters, it seems like they're just doing the bare minimum in order to placate. There's a profound sense of shallowness and laziness their efforts. It's insulting to people's intelligence.

@@donnydogpiss4533 FACTS

That's because they're completely aware that they are discriminatory, and are attempting to be woke in order to hide their true colors as racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic, and sexist scumbags who will never amount to anything.

​@@donnydogpiss4533all companies are capitalist conglomerates and will latch on to any current trend to make a buck,I don't know why y'all keep giving only Disney flack for doing what all capitalist conglomerates do?

A corporation isn't a monolith. It has no singular consciousness. The writers probably actually do care, but the people in charge of low-paid Disneyland staff don't, even if they all work for the same umbrella company.

because when they do they’re often put down as ‘annoying’ or ‘stupid’ because somehow main characters have to be perfect all the time whilst also getting top notch character development

I started "Killing Eve" a week ago and I was amazed how well everybody but especially the two main women were written. They are so human

@@Isabelle-hv6ny Ah, cool! Never heard about that movie, but I will give it a shot ☺️

@@itsciver It's a series from the BBC😉 I binged two seasons (8 Episodes à 40 min per season) in under two weeks.

@@Isabelle-hv6ny Uhh 😍 Sounds promising!

Bible Illustrated that’s it! That’s EXACTLY how it sounds!! 😂

Oof ain’t that the truth

I love an oddly specific and cruel insult!

That... really is spot on.

Yep, totally. It doesn't gel at all with the rest of the songs.

**Dramatic thunderclap**

Easily one of her best performances.

Her performance in Enchanted was so endearing to me.

It's a really cute movie

I hope the sequel doesn't ruin it with wokeness and product placement

Jafar bustin' in like The Rock talking to Triple H.

lmao yeah it's literally the worse, unintentional version of Twisted's commentary on the original, which is kinda close to the "bitch shut up" example you provided

There's a moment like that in Book of Lufe, too, and it's the worst...

What makes the new "Mulan" even worse is that the young female character that IS somewhat relatable (since she doesn't have magical superpowers) is her little sister... who ends up becoming the good, traditional wife. So, the movie essentially tells people: "As a woman, you can be anything you want! If you have magic, that is. Otherwise, you better stay at home, get married and be a housewife. Because that's the role of regular women, and they should be happy that they can do that!" I actually don't object to the fact that a female-empowerment-movie also has the message that being a mother and housewife can be fullfilling and something some women might want. So, the bad thing isn't, that Mulan's sister is happy with that role in her life. The problem is, that in combination with how they show Mulan herself, her sister becomes the only other young female character who is looking for her place in that society. And if you show Mulan as being an equal to men ONLY BECAUSE she has these magical superpowers, and show the "regular" girl being happy with her traditional role, the message of the movie gets significantly worse.

This is the result of a false state of utopia common in today's social sphere. The issues of the past have been corrected and now everyone lives in a more progressive future. Racism? Equality. Misogony? Empowerment. Oppressed? Rights. Everything once bad has been corrected, so, there's no need to even think about it! Bad practises, bad traditions, bad people no longer exist! We don't even have to "feel" bad, and if anything makes anyone feel bad, then get rid of it! The world is more perfect than ever before so why would anyone need to struggle anymore, right? Our world is perfect and we are perfect! There's no longer a need for a hero with human faults to show us how to conquer personal hardships or struggles. Get with the perfect times people..

Why invest millions of dollars into a brand new property that has no guarantee of succeeding when you can invest that same millions of dollars into a subpar remake/sequel that will at the very least get nostalgia money?

@@GoddoDoggo business-wise, of course it makes perfect sense to do what they're doing! they're a company, and i don't blame them for making money in a safe way. my little optimistic heart would just like to see more original content in the classic disney style.

Disney doesn't need to bother trying to make good movies anymore. "Artemis Fowl" for example had a great book yet Disney ruined the story because they knew they could w/out any reprecussions

@@Andre_APM like i said, business wise it makes sense for them to put minimal effort in. i just wish they'd try to make good movies because of their integrity! that's all!

Eleanor Waldock same here , I miss the classics

Yeah man. Also even her clothes are like a peacocks. Idk what year this was made in but I have this Aurora and Jasmine CD. Jasmine sings this song called more than a peacock 🦚 princess. Soooooo

Damn :(

@@dajoler that and even if racism was addressed in the movie, i wouldn't think it would exactly affect Jasmine given she's a south asian princess set to take command over a south asian kingdom, her only barrier is her gender and even then it doesn't matter much because she just becomes sultan anyway even though that would literally never happen in India in the time period but whatever I guess. Her only true barrier was her dad not approving, she and every other teenager with a parental figure.

@@CommanderKatelyn That reminds me of the other thing that bugs me. Like it was pretty clear that the original movie was set in some Arab country, but now it's Indian for some unexplained reason? Like was it that hard to cast Arab actors, or I don't know, make it LOOK Arab? Theres this huge race problem with brown people being clumped up into one group that's all the same and nobody ever mentions it.

Never watched the movie because I swore to myself I would not touch the Live Action versions but it gave me a Siyeon cover so I don't mind it that much

As A practitioner of Chinese Folk Magic I found it deeply offensive. It did nothing to represent and simply left everything worse than they found it.

The thing is, the director of the Mulan remake had already made an awesome empowering unexpected-girlboss movie set in a traditional non-white cultural setting. Check out Whale Rider. So good!

Doesn't help they shot several parts of the film at or near concentration camps and the lead actress mocked the people fighting against the HK police. And then turn around and fire James Gunn for some pedophile jokes that were in no way grounds for firing.

I couldn’t even watch the remake, Mulan is also one of my favorite Disney movies💜

@@SmoothCriminal12 what did the HK police do

The remixes?? Ah yes, what this medium-quality 80s tune needs is teChNoBeaTs

Bruh, Bollywood is no different to Hollywood. Nollywood from Nigeria is better

As a Millenial,I remember when 90s remixes happened and our parents were furious. I know how they feel now. Stop remixing songs..

@@tiruliru1189 this is the first time i've ever seen someone say nollywood is better than bollywood lol

Come to think of it I don't think Indian people making a movie about a Syrian story set in China be much better.

The Dimensioneer lol did knuckles really say that?

@@BM-ft2hg Apparenlty so O.o The Sonic Boom Tv show has a fair few of them. Though that point is somewhat undermined by his next line which is something along the lines of - "What? Just because I'm a meat-head doesn't mean I can't be a feminist!"

Main man

YES.

Omg I’ve never been able to put this into words. Thank you!

Disney making jazz hands _metaaaaa_

Disney: We’re self aware guys please like us.

QuesoCookies more like Mehta

I'm meta like me

@brandon roberts Not even the bare minimum, but actively offending anyone who isn't woke.

@@luvmypolly This indeed happened. The actress who played Mulan is also a hard activist for police brutality.

@@TheQuashingoftheTub the actors opinions don't matter to the movie mayun

@@ussinussinongawd516 I'm pretty sure she used her role as Mulan to promote her views, so she _made_ it matter to the movie.

@@ussinussinongawd516 They do.

And it was wasn't even culturally accurate. It was worse than the original 😂 The youtuber Xiran Jay Zhao just created a KZfaq channel to roast the remake and it's inaccuries(I highly recommend it)

I never saw the orginal sleeping beauty. But I did enjoy Maleficent

Baron Von Jo both Maleficent and Sleeping Beauty are very different movies but they’re both good in their own ways. I’d very much recommend Sleeping Beauty if you want something that’s simply emotional, beautiful and powerful. It’s very reliant on classic archetypes, but it knows it is and does those archetypes well. With a deliciously unapologetic villain as well.

But they do have a very oppressive class system ;)

Too bad the rest of us live in na sing se

Oop my notifications are weird so I just saw these now but 💖💖💖💖💖 y'all rock

I understood that reference and it made my day

@@joshuasavage1128 There is no oppressiveness in ba sing se... There is no oppressiveness in ba sing se... There is no oppressiveness in ba sing se

Nice

So Disney movies are a 110%?

Anne-Sofie Idk what math you’re doing but last I checked 60 + 30 + 10 + 0 = 100 So...

@@nombnomb5648 I tried making a dumb joke. Sorry for its dumbness lol.

Anne-Sofie lol I was trying to figure out how I could’ve done my math wrong haha

LOL she sticks the fork in his thigh and swims off

you’re right and you should say it

i liked it will smith was good

You’re right dibwuwgsgw

They made a horrible movie but people still watched it because 1. Disney 2. Will Smith 2. Will Smith 3. Did I mention Will Smith 4. The genie played by Will Smith

I thought it was because Walt Disney was working with Salvidor Dali and the two wanted to created a surrealist work of art? I got that information from my English Teacher in high school though so it might not be accurate. Do you happen to have a source I can look into? I'm actually quite fascinated by this.

I didn’t know that! That’s cool!

And look what magic happened ;)

@@Swordflash4 No the Dali/Destino collaboration (1946) was 5 years after the release of Dumbo in 1941. "Following their first meeting, Dalí and Disney came up with the idea of collaborating on the “Destino” short. Dalí began working on the film in 1946, creating 22 paintings and more than 135 storyboards, drawings, and sketches. Disney's studio then generated about 20 seconds of original animation based on these ideas." The complete short film was only completed decades later for the release of Fantasia 2000 I think.

why i wanna be an animator:

EXACTLY!!!!!!

Wokeness is a massive reason it’s bad and I’m not conservative.

I have seen better chemistry in ISIS videos.

Right, because males are supposed to worship females and give them whatever they want, but females don't have to return the male's affection at all because that would make them seem weak and not independent!

Christopher Regan oh look we found the incel. Every chat gets one!

@@debodatta7398 Yes, and disney's white directors making Aladdin is better? At least Bollywood would have been a step up. And that is the point, they already had white directors, brown people weren't part of the background creative process.

@@Lord_Of_Night I agree with you they also might not have white washed Jasmine so much i get that shes a cartoon but they could have found an actress who is darker like Jasmine with more similar facial structure

That is one of the reasons I loved Alita over Captain Marvel. Alita was strong yes, but also very feminine. Meamwhile captain Marvel basically acts like a toxic male with girl power music playing in the background.

Everything second wave is new again :D

YEEEEEEES

Agreed. And it's always so half-assed too. "Being traditionally feminine is weak and dumb and bad! Be a #girlboss instead! But only if you're skinny and conventionally attractive. Being too unattractive is also dumb and bad." In the end it's all about playing to the center enough that you don't alienate potential customers.

Exactly! It's almost like people have become so afraid of femininity that if a female lead isn't "not like other girls", then suddenly they're a bad role model for women.

That was the best timing ever

Reminds me of both the Looney Tunes compilations where WB added a disclaimer acknowledging how these portrayals are no longer in line with cultural norms but censoring them out would be just as bad, as well as how Hangar 13 handled racism in Mafia III by portraying it as it is within the context of the game's story and time period. I'm all for progressivism and equality for everyone, but presentism and their "woke" policy isn't going to make Disney as a corporation any better, it just brings up their excesses even more.

It's as if the Germans made a movie set during WW2 and completely overlooked the Holocaust. Actually, it's as if the LEAD CHARACTER was a well-respected Jew.

Even though the original already had that point made in addition to the overall lesson.

@@pranavlimaye Huh?? Wtf. PeopIe seem to like anything these days that has the subtext “Nazis bad.” 🙄

Live action is real world, real world should end that dumbo die for animal abusing.

But it's true tho, animal cruelty isn't okay

This needs to be boosted up.

@Sidharth Rao well technically Cersei is a little bit obsessed about telling people that a woman can be in charge. Then in comes Olenna and just shows who's in charge =D

Nausicaa especially is great because she’s rescued by the OTHER WOMEN, and not in a badass jailbreak, but through a cunning trick and with their compassion and empathy.

So true. Miyazaki is an amazing creator and I wish others would take note.

@@islandplace7235 Maybe Disney is outdated nowadays compared to animated films from Europe or Japan.

@Radio Star Would've made the sequels a lot better that's for sure.

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It's Just Kyle I’m making a story about some lgbt characters existing and vibing and (hopefully when I’m an adult) not caring about who doesn’t wanna watch it coz gay. That probably made zero sense.

I think that's been nicknamed queerbaiting?

Can we stop calling entire countries homophobic and learn to make a disctinction between the citizens and their government driving the media censorship?

radiobob It’s obviously not the whole country, the op was probably talking about the government in certain countries.

It's Just Kyle exactly! one of the worst examples to me is in the star wars sequels. there were so many fans that wanted finn and poe to be a canon couple since they had such great chemistry. instead of listening to their fans and making two main characters gay, they decided to put a three second gay kiss between two random characters in episode 9 in order to be “woke”. i hope they have a well-done lgbtq+ character eventually.

Hey, it isn't like she made a video with "war" in the title!

Project Veritas!

Lindsay: 8:41 Disney: "This channel has been removed due to multiple violations of our community guidelines."

It actually started to load an ad for me before skipping straight to the video instead xD

Good thing she get sponsored at least :3

well I think dumbo could survive in the wild because he can fly

@@meowdonkey5811 that doesn't help if you don't know what's edible

@@prakhar__shukla yes but it's not Disney. You mean the Amazon one right?

@@prakhar__shukla The newest Cinderalla was no where NEAR as hideous as Mulan. Not even close.

@@prakhar__shukla aside from the fact that it's not Disney. The new cinderella is just dumb Mulan 2020 on the other hand, is an in outright insult to everything that made the original mulan what it is. They somehow managed to do everything they could've done wrong

The sound effect is so bad i'm rolling on the floor remembering it

The sound of the back of her head smacking into the walkway really seals it.

That snowball should have at least bruised her judging by that smack.

It's also so poorly edited that the joke falls flat *Like Belle*

😂😂😂that sound effect killed me.

Thank you Pinocchio for lit Dumbo

But I really liked Pinocchio

the right wing has run away with Ellis' usage of corporate "wokeness" as something we all cringe about, to decry all progressive ideas

Thank you.

Nine months after TROS and I'm still mad about that among many other things wrong with that trainwreck of a trilogy. Five years and over $30 I will never get back.

Or the posters in china where black actors are removed.

What should Disney have done to respond to the racism? If they came forward with a press release or something they'd just be criticized for "being all talk."

@@jbvader721 I routinely come to KZfaq to find people to vent with in the comments. Hi random stranger I hated it too

I was always annoyed at Finn's treatment, but I though everyone hated Rose because she was just a bad character? At least, that's all I've seen.

That really could be said about any movie or entertainment product in general, especially the entertainment that we don't personally like.

I agree but like that goes with everything ever lmao

No movie "needs to exist". I'm sorry, I know that comes off as a cop-out excuse but hear me out: Toy Story 4 was a movie that everyone was moaning and freaking out about how "it didn't need to exist". Even I wasn't sold on the idea, when first hearing about it, and was still rather skeptical even with the promise that they weren't just doing it for money and that it made Tom Hanks and Tim Allen cry. Maybe it was essentially greenlit for money despite the creators' good intentions, and maybe the movie gets worse the more thought you apply to it. But for me, when it came out, I was in such a state of despair and stress, that I felt like one that I needed to do to help cure me is take a trip to the movie theatre to see something that gave me a fun time. And that's what Toy Story 4 did. It livened me up for the time being. And sometimes, that's all a movie needs to do, even if the rest of the makers try too hard to "justify" the existence of something that is ultimately perceived as a soulless cash grab. I don't say this to try and come off as some sort of "Disney apologist", I'm just trying to say that if you don't think their content is good anymore, you can always go watch something else, like an Indie film. If you don't like capitalism, maybe it's time to go support socialism.

and you think your opinion is matter?

Jk channel “My opinion IS matter?” What does that even mean?!

Elephant have in general a very low tolerance to alcohol.

@@leroyblue4955 that implies someone was dumb enough to feed animals alcohol

Man, all these elephants are weakkkk!!!! They’re fucking BABIES

Those clowns definutely spiked that drink with acid

Weren’t women often writing a ton too? I remember Hawthorne writing something about women being “scribblers”, which sounds kinda patronizing but still, it seems probably much more complicated than the flat oppression in that remake.

Jagd Töpfer Wasn’t the original Beauty and the Beast written by a woman too?

@@noorazraq2245 exactly!

Belle Granger is Disney's portrayal of the quintessential millennial snowflake.

That is the most perfect meme ever!

Or a slavery plot

Or a black lives matter plot since Ariel is going to black in the remake.

@@stefy7234 that would be pure cringe

Or true love against arranged marriages.

Stefano Basso That’s too woke for Disney

The original story of Aladdin takes place in China, whether it's actually China or a metaphor for "far away land that isn't Arabic"

@@KyrieFortune indeed, but if the remake was following the original Disney movie, then culturally that is Middle Eastern, and not south Asian

Yeah when she said that I was like " D: Lindsay no"

@@KyrieFortune no it's Persian "Aladdin is only one of 1,001 tales. Aladdin is part of a centuries-old stories-within-a-story called The Thousand and One Nights (also called The Arabian Nights). The heroine, Scherherazade, is married to a murderous king, who kills his new wives one day after wedding them."

@@ComicAcolyte the story of Aladdin in the 1001 Nights begins with it taking place in "China", which may or may not be a metaphoric for "far away land"

If an act of love is when put some else's needs ahead of yours. Then the King In Maleficent put Arora's safety ahead of his mental health. Looking at the movie

I know right, like you're the princess of this kingdom, can't you just pay for the bread

well you see, it is the petite bourgeoisie that are the real problem (sarcasm)

In the original her motive was to just be free from suiters and her lifestyle and be like anybody else. she was the opposite of aladdin. She wanted to have her own choices and what she wanted, not because she was a woman or wanted to be sultan She wanted to be independent for herself but happend to fall in love with aladdin along the way. Its almost like Disney didn't even watch their own movies.

Team Starkid's "Twisted" pulled that off so much better. Without going into spoiler territory, Jasmine does some self-reflecting and realizes her position in society gives her the power to make things better for _everyone_ and not just for herself.

Belle inventor and Jasmine Sultan are nothing more than decorations that lead nowhere

That's not how copyright works, remakes are their own copyrighted property. Aladdin (2019) doesn't renew the copyright of Aladdin (1990), it's its own copyright. If this is how copyright worked they wouldn't remake The Lion King, they would remake STEAMBOT WILLY, the thing where Mickey Mouse appears for the first time and is at constant risk of falling into public domain.

So its that hitler episode from south park

"Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness....and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." -G. Santayana Erasing history maintains comfortable profit margins and compliant consumers though, so... all good? /s

That is a lot of responsibility for an entertainment company. What do you think they should do about it? Because I have no initial ideas on my end

Katie.L Hall If that’s a lot of responsibility for one entertainment company then they shouldn’t have bought all the others

@@artemiswolf4508 I know your response was not an aggressive one. but damn, you just shitted on 'em lol

@AAnd The quote is ironic.

lemme see the ceo of monarchy

KZfaq

Which is why Big Liz has the longest reign in history.

Or just someone who cares about it's people like Jasmine.

OMG, yes - I was so confused by that mansplaining line. I was like "uh, was that mansplaining? Offering someone who obviously looks lost to help them find where they're going???" I ended up feeling like it was supposed to be a moment making fun of the main character.

A much more realistic reply would be "we can't afford to get you an education since I'm goddamn circus performer and have to travel for my job also" but can't criticise class in a Disney film, eh?

Marie Curie? More like Marie Antoinette...

Princess Fondu oof

lol

@@deer4927 yass

Hope HBO Max will Include the full Uncensored Looney Tunes Library of Shorts.

Dude, have you seen broadcast versions of WB’s old stuff? Censored to hell and back.

Okay, but let's still keep in mind that WB is a huge company too and that if it saw any chance in this being unprofitable, it would never have happened.

@@shakirakurosawa1740 Yes, that's how life works, everybody tries to profit, and the people at WB aren't necessarily better than the people at Disney.

@@Gemnist98 Broadcasting has different regulations to DVD releases. If we want to see broadcastings of any old cartoon with problematic elements aimed at young viewers, it will have to be censored. Its just how the broadcasting network works and has little to do with WB potentially "hiding" their past wrong doings, unlike Disney. In fact, WB releasing those DVDs with messages proves otherwise. If only Disney did the same.

That's because Mr. Disney is long dead.

Then 2 seconds later after the song, she's like " I'LL DO ANYTHING YOU SAY JAFAR ! Lmao.

I swear. Like, that had zero impact since she gets captured literally a minute after the song.

I also didn't like how the song "Speechless" was lyrically and musically completely different from the original Aladdin songs. It felt very out of place to me. It was a pop/rock ballad-style song (that wouldn't sound out of place on a typical radio station), while the original Aladdin songs are Broadway-style songs. There even was a "girl power" sort of song in the stage musical adaptation of Aladdin called "These Palace Walls." It's like why couldn't they use that song in the movie instead as their "girl power" song? It's a more well-written song (IMO), and actually stylistically goes with the original Aladdin songs.

In the original version, I feel like she actually gets a little more agency. Yes, it's gross that she pretends to fall in love with Jafar and kisses him, but she chooses that while Genie is trying to explain the rules to Jafar, not because Jafar is directly threatening her. It's not ideal sure, but it's a more active choice than the weird inconsequential song in the new one.

Her "I'm not a prize to be won" line from the original was more empowering than the entirety of "Speechless".

Its just for money, that's it. Remakes drag in old fans = more money, they could give a fuck about these movies being even mildly adequate.

@Johnny 600 what?

@@thechaostornado6600 AVGN , Ghostbusters all female remake (which did terrible)

@@DH_Artist I found the remake particularly bad because that whole "speachless" song that's been added to make her what they think is a stronger female character, is her singing a song about how she won't be silenced... to herself... in her head... where no one else can hear it... yeah. She doesn't sing it out loud to the people who are trying to silence her. You can tell it was just shoved in there as an afterthought (or not with much thought.) It wasn't a good remake.

I actually like the live action Aladdin better than the original, but I don't like the PC plugs like Jasmine's "Speechless" or making her the sultan at the end. Yeah, I'm sure a medieval (or modern) Islamic country would tolerate a female sultan.

well said!

Well, the original fairy tale was supposedly playing "in China", which could have been some Middle Eastern region under Chinese rule OR mostly Muslim region of China OR just being an geographical error. But then again, some of the elder texts of 1001 Nights come indeed from South Asia/India. But then again, Aladdin isn't even from the original collection, just included in the French version. BUT THEN AGAIN, the Disney movie is settled in Arabia anyway, so all of that is really irrelevant, I presume -.-

Wow, that's actually a pretty perceptive take that I never considered.

I think it's less of a racial issue as an issue of hypersexualization of society and women in general, the unintended consequences of the sexual freedom movement and women being promiscuous and flaunting as much as they, and let's not talk about only fans. Women objectify themselves all the time, race is a non factor in this.

@@simpbeforeusleep I'd argue that it most definitely is an issue of race. Women of color are much more sexualized in media, including Disney movies, what with their depictions of Princess Jasmine, Esmeralda, and Pocahontas. The thing about Princess Jasmine is that since the story takes place in a vaguely Arab setting, the creators pandered to the orientalist fantasies of European travelers and painters from the late 19th century, who spoke of and painted scenes with mostly-naked women in harems, ready for pleasing. This has historically been one of the most popular tropes in representing Arab women in Hollywood; that is a *belly-dancing harem slave*, or an *abused Muslim wife* that's forced to hide behind her hijab at the mercy of her husband. Other tropes relating to the depiction of women of color in media include the *dragon lady* and *lotus blossom* which hyper-sexualize-and infantilize-(mostly) East Asian women, the *jezebel* stereotype which force Black women on their knees for the pleasure of White men, and the *spicy Latina* trope.

I'd also like to point out that we middle eastern people aren't automatically Muslim. There are plenty of us who are Christian it's a stereotype to think all middle eastern people are Muslim

But remember girls, the wage gap exists *under the sea* What about on la- *Under the sea!*

@jocaguz18 it's a real issue there is a wage gap...wages in general are a real issue. People are being exploited, wages are being stolen, worker productivity is at an all time high while corporations pocket all profit.

DejaVoodooDoll Actually it’s not a wage gap, it’s an earnings gap and many factors go into like: -Men work more dangerous jobs -Men are more like to ask for raises -Men work more hours and take less vacation/sick days Etc. Just because you work the same job doesn’t automatically mean you’ll make the same as your colleague

DejaVoodooDoll No no and no... Working dangerous jobs do get you better pay because you’re risking your life and men make up 90% of work related injuries and deaths. Also what country are we talking about where women are being held back by the government from succeeding because of the “Evil Patriarchy”. In the West, there are literally programs (STEM and space) that are catered towards just women and girls. Also what consequences do women face for asking for a raise? The boss saying no? And finally, women being encouraged to be mothers instead of work made sense at the time since infant mortality was higher, most work places were dangerous and women were kept away from that and etc etc

Just realized I’m gonna get notifications on this for the rest of my life because I forgot there are Wage Gap Isn’t Real stans

I think there are those who no matter what will always think the empowered female character is “woke”. I can only imagine what previous female characters from the last 30 years would have been perceived by today’s critique.

Too bad Shrek isn't Disney.

@@victoriaodegaard1 Nobody said it was. And I think that was part of the point OP was making.

@@PittsburghSonido I don't think that's true. It's all about how the characters are delivered. Fans love modern strong heroines like Wonder Woman, Scarlet Witch, Katniss Everdeen, etc. because they're organically written and don't exist simply to push a political message. Most of the heavily critiqued "strong female" characters, like Rey or Captain Marvel, are marketed as such, with the actors and studios bringing their gender up constantly and using it as a defense against critics, e.g. "You just hate strong women." That's what most disgruntled fans are reacting to.

Toph and katara in atla

Yeah, but Disney is not trying to be woke per se. They just realize that specific types of wokeness will increase their profits, that's it. What do taoists say about trying to achieve something for the wrong reasons?

To a company like Disney, "Wokeness", "Bigotry", "Feminism" and "Mysogyny" all have one thing in common: If you can properly tap into all of them, all of them yield money.

Absolutely. I think "Lilo & Stitch" has some of the best "strong female" characters and no one is wielding a weapon and despite prominently featuring non-white characters it doesn't make some cynical plea to appeal to progressivism. In other words, they were fully fleshed out characters and not a coat rack to hang mock liberalism from in order to sell tickets.

Agreed. 90s Mulan is going to be ten times more woke than the remake will because 90s Mulan wasn't trying so goddamn hard.

@@trucutru3 In Taoism, giving reasons to your actions (good or bad) is like giving names to everything you see. Here's chapter 29 of the Tao Te Ching: Trying to control the world? I see you won't succeed. The world is a spiritual vessel And cannot be controlled. Those who control, fail. Those who grasp, lose. Some go forth, some are led, Some weep, some blow flutes, Some become strong, some superfluous, Some oppress, some are destroyed. Therefore the Sage Casts off extremes, Casts off excess, Casts off Extravagance.

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Me: Yes, I remember. I just don't care. Leave my childhood alone, Mickey Mouse.

we stanning a sober convertible lesgooooo

that would be an ugly t-shirt

“There is no corporate approved way to make Disney’s history with race representation[..]" Except for the obvious one, which is that it is all but certain "Song of the South" would move a Shitton of Units, it it ever got released. Though they are rightfuly afraid of that, cause it would be horrible optics, even if they put a Leonard Maltin "War-Cartoon" style disclaimer infront of it. Then again I'm quite sure Bob Chapek is unscrupulous enough at this point, to just place an Confederate-Flag on Splash Mountain. ^^

@T.N. Newton Doesn't the existence of Black Panther refute that very same quote?

PLEASE I WOULD LOVE THAT

neosoontoretro Marvel is owned by Disney but they are not Disney, imo

The thing that bothers me the most is that they're taking something fully developed for and dependent upon one medium and trying to translate it into another without making any changes (well, that, and the fact that it's a terrible idea to begin with). I actually liked Aladdin, at least moreso than any of the other remakes. Maybe my expectations were so low that it was a nice surprise, except for the part in One Jump Ahead where they incorporate the weird slow / fast motion effects.

What sickens me more is the fact that it works. If you think disney making a business decision to re-release their most popular movies in a diffrent (worse) format is sickening. That's up to your discretion sure. What bothers me MORE is that people are still buying this garbage. These movies make a TON of money and they shouldn't. I feel bad because the general public supports this uninnovative, soulless, cheap nonsense. Disney has become a shadow of it's former self, sure. But they just follow the money like any buisness. People who buy it are what dictate what succeeds

@@zazzpzazz THIS!! People can complain all the want. But all that Disney sees is the billions of dollars they are making from the remakes

@@matty6878 a re-release of the source material (such as a blue ray release of the original movie) is all it takes to preserve copyright. You dont need to remake the movie. Also. If anyone is stupid enough to challenge Disney's copyright. I wish them luck.

@@matty6878 also buying companies doesn't really mean anything in terms of copyright.

Makes you think, huh?

@@henrykahn Lol which Scooby Doo was that? I'm massively obsessed with Scooby Doo that quote is fantastic

@@henrykahn Oh I love that one! I didn't notice that line I've gotta watch it again because that's a big mood

I've done it Ms's Obama, I've stopped sexism!

Speaking of which... what was the last count of how many women and POC are working at Disney as animators and in lead management roles as directors, executives, producers, etc. on these movies?

Useless nobody

You know who else erased their history and rewrote it? The Egyptians.

'Hello is this the CEO of racism?'

Real?

Ok but enchanted was my childhood, like “that’s how you know”? A b o p

Okay but Shrek is scathing and cynical, Enchanted is a loving self-parody. The best parody tends to come from a place of affection rather than scorn, cause true fans of the original work understand it better and so make deeper rather than surface level parodies. Shrek: bits of Disney are stupid like isn’t it’s a small world annoying Enchanted: how would the real world intersect with a Disney princess and how would this alter her personality and she alter the other characters

Richard Bourton this exactly ! enchanted is probably the most wholesome self parody disney has put out and for that reason it feels 100x more genuine.

Guy2010 no it isn’t. It mocks some of the tropes of classic Disney films but ends up affirming all of them. True loves kiss is real, happy endings DO come true, the best way to behave is the wonderful positivity of Giselle, even if it needs tempering slightly in the real world. It’s packed to the gills with loving homages to all of Disney; every extra is a reference to a Disney film in some way, the lady with lots of kids Edward meets heading up the stars is played by Pocahontas’ actress, the couple in divorce litigation are named after the Banks family from Mary Poppins, the bus driver has her hair styled as Mickey ears and so on. Disney and its tropes are examined by Enchanted and then affirmed by the narrative. It is the least mean spirited film I have ever seen and that’s why it is my favourite film.

I'm not sure if they still do it but at one time WB had a resources page for education in their more problematic elements of cartoons.