_It was never clear nor obvious_

Why not change the terminology then. Scrapping VAR bc of this and the PGMOL is just further backing of some of the worst officiating ever. And that in the best League of the World as so many like to say

Or "don't want to re referee the game" Then overturn yellows into reds 😂

Exactly this. Because it doesn't serve the purpose of judging the situation step by step to provide a correct call, it's just there to figure out if the ref made a serious enough mistake given all the circumstances which is just nonsense.

Exactly. It either IS a foul/red card/penalty/offside or it ISN’T. Yes or no.

He shouts at pgmol everyday but this won't affect them in any way

Exactly officiating belongs to Manchester, any form it takes will continue their decades of control

I'd take dumb refereeing over VAR nonsense any day tbh

We had dumb referring all through the fergie era which only helped United. VAR has not fixed that and now it’s City who seems to benefit

No but the games flow and you can celebrate a goal properly without wasting 2-5 mins and your buzz goes dead and never really enjoy the moment

Spot on!

Yes, but they do run it. Therefore VAR is the problem

Nonsense, VAR will always slow the game down, always have an element of human error, always put increased negative pressure on refereeing.

It's killed the momentum and celebrations with waiting 2 minutes for decision. Get rid and give us back the game we loved!

There’s certain aspects of VAR that are inherently flawed. Telling the referee to look at any decision will result in that decision being given. I don’t think i’ve ever seen a decision be suggested by VAR and the referee has had a look and stuck by his original decision in the PL. I’ve only ever seen it in Scotland.

well said

Basically yep!

Sack Anthony Taylor as well.

WHO DOES THE VAR JOB THEN? SUM LITTLE GAMER NEEK…..????

If var was to be removed, those people who want it to be removed will want it back.

Correct

Nah it was delaying games taking the fun out of celebrating anyway

But the truth is a lot of fouls are not black and white, and there is an element of subjectivity to a lot of fouls. This is why even days after the game people still can’t decide whether many instances should have been a foul or not. Also if someone is 1mm offside, who actually cares. If there’s a small shove in the back which the ref misses who cares. It’s sport not science, and forensically analysing decisions which could be given either way for 5 minutes every game takes all the fun out of it. Football was much better for the fans before VAR and that’s a fact

Xenophobe

Xenophobic

but then its the referee decision is final. game will flow mistakes happen. human error. VAR five minutes to make a decision and still can get it wrong.

@@davidhillyeah That's true but there are many penalties that are wrongfully given/not given and Var overturns it. Or red cards.

Mistakes even.tbemselves out over tbe season. Let us enjoy the goals instead of waiting for VAR everytime.

Y’all are right though. But why don’t this complains come from say the champions league, I just believe Var is not properly used in England

@@davidhillyeah says man urinated fan who benefited from that

Agreed , VAR to stay

Rhubarb

For everyone except Man Utd and Liverpool.

You have forgotten how fun it was to actually celebrate a goal.

@@ofusowre7620so you want bad decisions just so you can celebrate a goal slightly earlier?

@@ofusowre7620 It seems so long ago true, but that doesn't change the fact it's not the technology but the corrupt officials that are running it that are causing that.

They need proper systems and protocols in place.

Football is truly dead. VAR actually finally exposed their determination to fix the match and they think getting rid of it makes it better. Clubs owners, players, manager, media, youtube "fans" channel, corrupt rules maker...get another job. Football is dead because you can only fool us once. Noticed even these fans channel are supporting the decision to get rid of VAR. They are all corrupt.

Good analogy

Bros got bars 🎤

Yep, like blaming a pistol when police shot the wrong target

I understand but what's the point of keeping VAR if the refs are not going to change

Great analogy maybe Mark will understand now that personnel is a valid argument now since he speaks through analogies.

Without a care in my heart, without a love of my own.

Utd won 7 of the first 9 premier leagues! Not a word about destroying the league then!

They didn't win by cheating or bribing refs. City are rats, and a discussing stain on the Premier League. I hate utd, and hope their next season is even more awful than this one. But unlike city, they don't cheat.​@@kevinmorrow2788

I totally agree. But then on the flip side, by removing a system which does undoubtedly bring accuracy but is misused by human decision, you may as well remove this false sense of accuracy. so yes VAR is good when used right. however because the EPL refs are so awful, you may as well scrap the VAR system which exposes their inconsistencies. in fact, it may even be better for refs to save face as they can now just blame “human error”.

Shouldn’t even check for offsides. Check for potential red card offences

VAR includes the system mate.

@@spicyrice796 People are going to highlight refereeing mistakes with or without VAR, atleast with VAR you also have correct decisions being made that never would of been overturned without the system.

​@@spicyrice796so you want the refs to be able to save face more when they make terrible decisions?

Fergusson's love child was always the chosen one. After years of reffing Man Utd games............. another can of worms that no-one looked into.

Reminds of the South Park episode with the oil company constantly saying sorry

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Im a massive rugby fan but there is alot more subjective decisions in football. Also in rugby there ia no arguing with officials and more natural pauses in play

YEH BUT THE GAME TURNS INTO A POLICE INVESTIGATION FOR LIKE 5 MINUTES

I look forward to Mark having to sit there and say nothing about it

Lol its alot worse with var its owned by man city

​@@dondappapumpumslappa8051grow up you🤡

If they remove Var, It will be the most hilarious thing in the whole season. The amount of mistakes that will appear right after var is removed will be a joy to watch

Mark is a confused urchin. Exactly my thoughts. He'll be the first to begin crying 😢

Just like when the ball went out against Arsenal? You've had bad decisions go for you too.

It's like the majority forgot about one specific thing about VAR ; the onfield referee still the ones that gave the verdict,not VAR 🤣

@@Mr.WhiteCat_YTI don’t blame the referee for not having the correct view of the tackle on Gordon, but I do blame Var because they have watched it multiple times and all they needed to say was did you see any contact, if he says no then Var should step in and say we would like you too go to the screen and look again and make a decision off what we’ve seen. In my opinion keep Var for offside and Violent conduct because we know Violent Conduct does happen off the ball and if the referee is following the ball and something happens behind his back then he can’t be expected too give the right decision. Other than that football was never meant to be perfect but Skys Rob Dawson said they get 96% correct so taking last nights decision on Gordon does that go down as correct because Var never called the ref to review his decision 🤷‍♂️ if that’s the case then the percentage will always be high if no one challenges these idiots on sky as it’s just accepted what he says is true without having a conversation about what he is saying. Personally I back Wolves scrap Var it’s not good for the match going fan and don’t think European referees are any better because that’s not true only a handful of refs are good in Europe let’s get back to the ref deciding the game and let the game flow the way it’s supposed too.

Newcastle gaol against arsenal should be disallow 🚫

@ChimezieOkoro-rb6yu not for the ball going off which arteta was raving about

Var is a problem ,it makes things to robotic ,even if they got everything right its still not fun

Var killed the game

@@liamhjaltason4429You

@@redmanslo7057And You

Are Literally The Only 2 People I Have Seen Actually Wanting VAR To Be Gone In All Of These Comments…….. If You Want VAR Gone???? You Really Are Some Kind Of Dumbass 💯😂👍🏻

Exactly, thinking having the same bad refs & corrupt PGMOL without VAR will somehow be better is foolish

You know this is happening all over Europe right? It’s not specific to England. Brest in France requested VAR be scrapped in January.

I was hoping that someone else was going to mention this. The amount of times that blatant errors are missed by the ref is crazy and corrected by VAR is crazy. Referees use it as a comfort blanket so much nowadays and will continue to do so.

So how will it ever change? Their not gonna sack the referees are they

​@peterparker_78 better training, clear guides lines that that we are all aware of and have been consulted through experienced players where the majority of fans and pundits agree. There's plenty of ways to improve it. It's not all or nothing. Edit: get rid of "clear and obvious" and the culture of VAR's protecting their mates who are reffing the game.

@@40yearoldvirgil15 true. Feels as if some people just want to get rid of it for the sake of it.

The people aren't going away

Mark is an idiot.

VARmas

Khhhhamas

@@u-Dramatic_avocado5867 Haha

Do you?

Nah get rid ruins the games

​@@DarrenMac-yk2gd He's talking about semi automated offside, we should Def keep that

​@@DarrenMac-yk2gd Or I mean start that, cause we didn't put it in last year when we should have

@@JNRF5385 we don't have it

They didn’t use AI in the World Cup 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I agree. I think we get a version of automated offsides next year. Goal line technology and offsides are things that are factual not subjective. that should be the base to go forward

They will have their biases for sure being former players.

Exactly, they prove that with their punditry​@@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh

Former players don't make good officials they are subject to biases if anything

Former players from a different country . I said this should be the way it works regarding official. Should rotate one week we get German official the following we get Spanish. English refs should only ref in foreign climate.

Yea But It Was United Before City 💯😂👍🏻

Nope, you clearly don’t watch the championship. Everyone accepts there’s no VAR and the games are better for it. If the linesman makes a mistake, we just move on

@@xswiifttexactly. These gloryhunting prem fans don't watch the championship so have actually forgotten what it's like. The championship is so much better for it.

Why give the refs less accountability.Every mistake would be taken as human error instead of the referee being held responsible

But you are talking about European match and UEFA isn't getting rid of VAR.

Once EPL scrap it other leagues will follow

They still would have found a way to fix that game with VAR

Mourinho said it best "I think the name is V.R because the pitch referee doesn't exist anymore all the decisions are taken by those in the office somewhere and that wasn't the plan . The plan was for it to only exist in obvious mistakes from the referee that everyone agrees on . Rare circumstances where the referee clearly misjudge and if that was how it works we would use it maybe once every 5 or 6 games not 7 times a game"

@@Silphwave no way without technology. VAR must stay

That will be good

Can't wait for semi-automatic offside tech for next season 👀👌

No goal line technology was introduced for that exact reason not VAR and that’s been fixed for years now 😭

Do you not watch football?

@@bushmonster1702 Are you intentionally being vague? What are you referring to?

But they’re not using it correctly

That was for the goal line sensors.

Bro didn’t watch the video yet

@@fergieunited8106 i have and mark is wrong here

@@fergieunited8106 Don't need to watch it if he's right... if a Ferrari has a flat, you don't scrap the Ferrari do you?

​@@edrahimoviche's not right though. No one knows how to use it properly. VAR doesn't really work well anywhere. The system is too complex and there will always be loads of errors. It's never going to work no matter who you put in charge of it. Turn it off.

​@@fergieunited8106Don't start crying when offside goals or handballs the ref didn't see happen then

😂😂

Love how he always ‘encourages’ fans to express their opinions, and then calls them fakes or idiots if they disagree with him

Based

Probably a good idea, TBH.

I'm a Chelsea fan and I agree it wasn't a penalty. BUT where was our corner??

where was lamptey red?

that game was terrible officiating for both chelsea and brighton

​@@sirwinstonchurchill2052 Sadly I am not Jesus . Have you been drinking :)

That makes it worse. Having a third party can eliminate bias from the ref's decision. It still also doesn't address the frequent and extensive VAR interruptions, confusion in the stadium, passion being lost from goal celebrations and all of the other drawbacks stated by Wolves that aren't directly related to the processing of the decision

It won't happen it would be a backwards step

Two years? More like two games

The problem is they are working off the wrong principle to start with, "we only send the referee to the monitor to review clear and obvious errors, we don't want to be re-refereeing the games". Wrong wrong wrong. One senior match official reviews the video footage and gives his decision to the pitch referee to implement. No fuss, no long discussions and delays, the official with the access to the most information makes the decision and it is quickly implemented. End of. The bunch of officials discussing and dissecting it all, should be background stuff, like a quality control department reviewing the performance of the VAR official.

But if the gun wasn't there - no one gets shot

this is a multi-billion dollar sport now - it demands correct calls.

We don't know yet, they haven't voted...

@Toosimoo but Sky have asked other PL teams what they think of Wolves proposal and they are not in favour of it , but wolves proposal will be brought up St the next Pl team meeting and there will be a vote on it , but it will not pass , this is a storm in a tea cup thing

@@1970pizza You dont know it wont pass and sky do it FOR CLICKS for gullible people like you.

I can understand why Wolves would feel that way because they have had their season well and truly butchered by incorrect decisions.

Absolutely

Lol they've got it wrong WAY too many times

it suppose to be right BUT the people running behind are WRONG!

They’ll realize how often they get it right with VAR when it’s taken away. On-field referees will have gotten worse as they’re used to using it as a comfort blanket

That's their job

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also get rid of "clear and obvious" and just let the var decide whether to send the ref to the monitor based on his own opinion

The var has been implemented only for a few seasons. Officials are not fully trained and don't have the experience yet

Lol, the referees are laughing at yall that want to remove VAR and if they do, referees will be worse, especially with social media nowadays

@@ronel7836 It doesn't matter how terrible the referees are going to be, refereean misstakes are a part of the game. In fact they can add flavor and spark to otherwise lifeless games making it a much bettet viewer experience.

@@wolfbrosunited7519 HAHAHA. Did you read what you just typed??? And you thought it was a good idea too send it????

That didn't work before VAR 😅 All we got was "well the referees need more help, the game is so fast paced".