Been a LONG time since I've made a video like this one. Did I miss anyone that should've been on the list, perhaps?

As someone who started WoW this year I definitely felt a lot of discouragement from the eceleb streamers saying stuff like “WoW is dead” or “Retail is dead, classic is better”

I agree with the I hate x part. I just like Warcraft. I want Warcraft to succeed. Through any iteration. More Warcraft. Let it be good no matter which version you prefer.

"...kind of an idiot. on a side note this channel is sponsered by zygor..." 🤣

Although I suppose it technically falls under the 'WoW is dying' category the people who never stop talking about how WOTLK was the only good xpac and WoW hasn't been good since, those people are pretty obnoxious.

Been playing since TBC and I still don't know what Parsing means hahaha

You forgot the Boomer Idiot. The kinda guy who wants to see the old mechanics of Vanilla that were not exactly player friendly, but enriched the world. Hunters needing ammo / Quivers Warlocks needing soul shards Priests each having a racial spell Forsaken players taking extra damage from weapons that did extra damage to undead. Do these things make for well balanced game design? No. But they don't care about that. They want a world that makes sense and has a strong sense of verisimilitude. ... basically me. I'm that idiot. And I miss those things.

People who pull bosses without the whole raid being there.... like...damn.

surprised im not on the list

I am the "My character needs a last name." guy. 😁

This should be titled - Top 10 things that will never change in wow -

Hahahaha, did bro just described every type of Asmon spergs, and Asmon himself xD

Gonna stick up for the "I have a life" guy (partially): Everyone obviously has a life, and your example (and this whole video clearly) is taken to an extreme for comedy and entertainment purposes (it's great; love your work dude), but I've always hated the argument that MMO's are not for solo players. It 100% can and should be AS A BASELINE. Arguing the game should "cater" to solo players...obviously an extreme, but arguing the game shouldn't provide solo content is a big mistake and will, imho, kill an MMO pretty quickly.

Third party website guy could also be certain content creators pushing Zygor all the time ;)

Meeting the crazy people in this game and listening to massive arguments after the 20th wipe in a pug discord call is one of the most special parts of the game.

my guy woke up and chose violence

the one that hate casual is the one that i hate the most. i am always kind to ppl that are new or dont know the mecanic

"Noooo! We can't just cater to a wide audience! We can only cater to elite players!"

15 dollars for a whole month's entertainment. 15 dollars is a sober night at a bar.

I do sympathize with the 'I have a life' type since my work schedule does put me at odds when everyone else on my server's on and doing stuff. It took eventually finding others who also work in my job field to help mitigate the situation. Not everyone gets it that for us, we're in our busy times when most have free time like working weekends or pulling overtime during summer.

Personally, I would prefer this game to be single player, like the Warcraft games before it, but that doesn't mean I don't like some aspect of this game. I get addicted to it all the same! And it is probably the only MMO that I will ever get addicted to! Also I FINALLY got the Tomb Stalker mount for my Troll Death knight.

I play on private server currently just because I can’t afford a sub

The problem is that Blizzard force the newest expansion down your throat. There are no servers for older expansions. And now, they are doing the same thing with Classic.

Tank specific, but you missed The Go Guy. "Go. Go. Go. Go! Go! We'll be fine. Go! Go! Just pull! Go! Go. Go! Go. I'm pulling if you don't pull."

The problem with "the game is dead" guy in mmos is that people play mmos to play with others but if they think other people stop playing then they stop, thus making a self-fufilling prophecy. But wow ain't dying for a while. Atleast not worse then Shadowlands

Asmonbald fits like.. all of these 😂

Best thing about P-Server shills: They play on builds that have an ingame shop that at times charges for items that are basic game rewards ingame. And the more you read from them the more obvious it becomes: They just don't want to pay to play WoW.

I gave up on WoW back in BFA and never looked back

Playing Devil's advocate here. Not having Addons/WeakAuras + best talents/gear is okay. BUT! If you are pushing content that is on the edge of your abilities (lets say early high keys in M+), you gotta be prepared. Otherwise, you are making your party members work much harder, basically carrying you. If you dont want to optimise - dont go into content that requires you to be. There is so much else to do

I was going to say “wow isn’t dead, just spiritually dead” because my experience with BFA was so bad. But then I remembered how great Legion was and damn, I am suddenly jonsing for some wow

If I could add one more type of person that is my true enemy in WoW it’s the “LFG/LFR ruined the game” guy. I had the most fun playing wow after they added LFG/LFR. It made it so much easier to experience all of the content available I didn’t have to spam LF DEADMINES in general chat, I didn’t have to organize a group that wanted to do the content I wanted to do. All I had to do was press I on my keyboard and suddenly I’m playing with a group and enjoying group content. Players that truly feel like LFG/LFR killed the game are just so lame to me and honestly ruined classic for me since I’m forced to spam the game chat to make a group or to GDKP which also is just ridiculous from my point of view.

I dont think WoW will ever die. They always do SOMETHING that keeps them going. Warbands is a great idea thats gonna bring me back. Im doing the WoW Remix at the moment and im loving it.

I used to be the classic Andy guy. decided to give retail a shot and I'm having more fun than I had in years

Nixxiom I think you forgot an important one: the Guy that says the game is bad, not for them. yet keep their subs on and keeps jumping in once every red moon. Just to say the game is still bad.

my ability to press 3 buttons and then smacking the game with tank meat is old

Nixxiom. My guy. You’re absolutely right about the complaining with speed running. but there are TONS of people who prefer running through the experience as swift as possible. Some people even adore it. Just look at the m+ numbers. Shouldt be calling those people idiots. We are trying to grow this game, not make it a cesspool of negativity

Yo Nixxiom. Great Vid as always, but you missed an important annoying one: "The AFK Guy" - The guy you plan some dungeon runs with, that shows up late while you wait. When online he tells You to wait so he goes quickly to the AH to buy Flasks. When finally you found the full group and go summon he goes on a Bio. Then finally inside the dungeon goes AFK on the ready check and ofc never releases when everyone else is on a corpse run because he is off snatching food and drinks which will occupy him for the rest of the run. He will have his focus fully set on the food next to him making him the 1st one to die 15 secs into the fight and enjoy the show the others put up while eating his popcorn "This is a good run" *OmNomNom! At least i know one, but i still love him man

Games been dead/dying for a reeeeaaaalllllly long time apparently

This is what i thought with Day9 recent 'review' of WoW. Im a new player too but i enjoyed retail. I respect his opinion and i know wheres he's coming from. But i just enjoyed WoW for what it is. Doing quest, leveling, casually playing at my own pace. Just recently i tried LFR in MoP remix and i love it. Playing with others scares me since im really new to WoW and afraid im not contributing anything to the raid/dungeon run. But random run with pug feel not bad at all. I enjoyed my time atm with WoW and can see why this game stand strong after all these yrs. Looking forward for TWW.

The queue times for BG's in Dragonflight is so ridiculous. I LOVE BGs, but it seems way worse than when I had last played. I don't mind paying the 15 a month, but the one thing I like to pad my XP with is BGs and can't even get in is so infuriating.

Nix, i totally agree. the speed runners ruin it for the rest of us who dont run that fast thru content. I went from playing for hours a day because i enjoy it , to playing for maybe an hour a week because its no fun anymore. I started playing a game called Palia, created by several game developers from many large companies , they branched off and created their own game. its alot of fun , tons to do , a garden to tend, a house to build , there is hunting and gathering and cake parties . and so much . the community is warm and welcoming and FRIENDLY .

As someone who plays multiple MMOs and an older sibling - The tribal idiots trying to say other things/versions suck never had an older/younger sibling call them a nerd for liking video games and it shows. If someone likes something let them like it, you do some stupid stuff that others think youre dumb for too and if you think you dont youre lying to yourself. AND anyone who rushes to return to being bored rather than rushing to play the 17 games on backlog is a fool. Dont sit in tradechat bored - go play DD2 or Helldivers or something.

Guilty of running through the content fast, thank you Zygor. I do play 27 characters and want to get them to end game. I am looking forward to the War Within and the new Questing meta where once my main reaches max level the next Character in line can start questing where the main left off. It means I can finally read everything to better understand the story. I stopped playing at the end of MOP and returned at the end of Shadowlands. It's taken me this entire expansion to relearn how to play WoW. Things sure have changed. Currently I'm putting everyone to bed, cleaning bags and banks and take a couple months off to recharge my own batteries. Looking forward to pre-patch and the War Within.

i like mmos and warcraft universe, but i really sometimes dont have time to play wow as much as i want, also i like to play wow solo without guilds, like roleplaying as outcast. adding some singleplayer activities to wow might not be a bad idea.

You forgot about the "Sweaty raid lead who only plays 1 class telling people how to play their class." guy.

I’m an old guy. Both my sons played wow when it came out. They pretty much played it all the way through. I played some in wotlk. Now they’re grown I started playing sod and in Cata with them. I am enjoying it. I have more free time to play it now. We leveled in phase 3 in less then a day. And raided in the first lockout. We’re still raiding and struggling to fill the raid and everyone is complaining. I don’t mind the extra time in phase 3. I shoulda started in vanilla classic. Being new to the game the longer phases gives me more time to level in Cata.

Got my first proper steps into wow this month. Looking forward to to experiencing my first expansion launch day, but the "Wow is dead" spammers under every teaser, video and help chat really puts a damper on things :/ I just want to bonk demons on the head with the power of The Light, and my Big Hammer

Been aying since 2005 or 06, nowadays i unfortunately dont play like i use to. I finished BFA but haven't finished the last 2 xpacks and makes me sad. But ill never hate on a game that gave me the fondest memories of my gaming life and the day they shut down the servers, ill probably tear up because the memories will comeback even stronger

You forgot the people in heroic and mythic 0 dungeons who treat it like a military bootcamp and if you step out of line (pull something you wernt meant too, rip aggro because the tanks sucks or just generally just breathe wrong) then these guys just explode and vote kick you (in normal/heroic) people who three stack should not be allowed to vote kick anyone. Anyway, I was in a M0 Neltharus and kept ripping aggro from the tank on my alt and the tank thought i was taunting them and raged about how i am expendable and not the tank. They simply could not understand me when i tried to explain how I was getting aggro, i think they were from FF14 or something.

We just spent the last 5 years talking about how Blizz has gone off the rails. Nixxiom included. Now he was just fooln and he hates his fan base. Rah Rah Retail. Just like kid rock and bud light.

I'm the guy that keeps on saying on the in-game chat to Blizzard to contact me so we can bring Warcraft to life as a full theme park attraction and more and beyond

i haven't watched Nixxiom since the "AAAAUGH~! ISHNU ALLA~!" days. I'm glad he's still immensely based. I'm getting into WoW RP when i resub on friday! I've only dabbled into it before despite being a writer at heart, but hey, better late than never, and i'm gonna try and just not care about what people tell me about the game I've been playing since Burning Crusade released. I also kind of used to only do the "Only one type of content" kinda thing, mostly because I never enjoyed PVP, but ever since i discovered that you can solo old dungeons, i've been foaming at the mouth for transmogs.

My buddy Matt gets upset that I don't use builds or walkthroughs and just kinda play the game when making my builds. I think it's mostly because I tend to out DPS him more often than not, or my particular build doesn't get nerfed into the dirt every other patch.

I resonate with the disdain for people that rush to max level and then complain that the game does have any content. I’ve had friends like that. Time and time again have I just been chill leveling slow to get the most out of the game and they’ve already progress several quests ahead of me. Needless to say, I’m still friends with them irl, but I never level with them anymore.

So I am that idiot with a "life", but I am self-aware enough to realize that I can't get through group stuff, and focus my energy elsewhere. Ain't no point in bitching about how I can't get endgame content I won't set time aside for.

-In my experience, Alliance IS worse at PVP battlegrounds than Horde. I don't know why, but i lost far more as Alliance than Horde. -As someone who had a life when i played WoW, i would have loved to be able to be able to join the high end raids, but I didn't have the gear and got stuck in LFR hell and it drove me away from WoW more than once. And the few times I had the gear, the specific class that was OP for the season, I didn't have a guild that raided/or they were full/or i had work or college on the raid days. As a very low percentage of people see the higher end raids when they are current, i would argue that the game is being elitist and obnoxious. And i play MMOs to be social, that is the point of them.

Loved this video! Community is filled with tons of doom and gloom, negativity, and trolls that you will meet. However, there are 10x as many people who are nice, courteous, and great to play with across all versions. That is why I continue to play.

The speedy player is victim of the game design. Once a new expansion hits there’s a huge incentive to reach max level to get ready for raid. If you missed that train. You are not going to be invited to pugs. You’d always going to fight from behind in uphill battle. 2- you are paying to play. 15 USD for 4 raids lockouts per character and 4 loots chances per boss. If you missed that, you are wasting your money. 3- the End games content is time gated. You have limited time chances to get progress in per your monthly subscription.

Fun fact, original Top 10 idiots was the first Nixxiom video i have ever seen. Still here :D (Fuck, we are old)

I like how at 1:50 that lady dead ass puts a blunderbuss up to her eye covered by a patch and then closes her unpatched eye to aim the thing.

Hey Nixxiom do you 'retire' your characters once they hit 70? I mean if you don't get anymore experience points what is the point? Just wondered how you handled getting to the top level. Thanks.

I feel that 5th one too much. When Dragonflight first came out i know of people who were competing to find out who got to max level first, and then complained raids and such weren't coming out fast enough.

I remember a guy in trade chat sitting in Shatt back in BC who was willing to bet _anything_ he owned that WoW would never attempt a third expansion because "the game is dead". The "welfare epics" and casuals had killed it dead and Blizz would hang up their MMO aspirations forever.

As a new player this game does look dead. I even joined a couple of wow Facebook groups and discords trying to find people to play with of some sort. i did get a couple of responses but not very many(compared to the amount of people in those groups) its really making me think twice about buying a sub and let alone the preorder for the next expansion(I kind of want to return it at this point..) I'm going to keep at it to see if I will find a group or someone eventually but so far my experience has been pretty bad.. (even one of the responses I got, they told me to just read and learn the game for a month then start playing.. like I bought this to play it not to just read..) That's my rant lol. I just want to experience the fun of this MMO.

Okay, about Skyrim... I did try to go through the main storyline at first in Skyrim, because most games i played before it like: Jedi Knight 1 + 2 + Jedi Academy, Diablo 2, Oni, ect. But after a while, i did realise that the sidequests are what makes Skyrim such a biiiig adventuring game. (By the time i got to the bad dragon, he didn't stand a chance... lol)

The whole Speed Run to highest level problem pretty much exists across all MMOs at this point and even the devs encourage it when they sell an item in the store that instantly boosts you to highest level. And a lot of it probably from peer pressure of people thinking they won’t be able to join friends or guilds in dungeon raids or joining guilds where it’s a must or a rule to be highest level with best on slot gear. And funny enough most people who complain about it also do it because, how else are you gonna get the “you’re not playing efficiently enough” monkey off your back who keeps whispering those words in your ears? People who complain about no content are the same people who laugh at people who aren’t playing tHe MeTa or Efficiently. Which again is usually what gives off the mind set that people have to get through everything as fast as possible. It’s a problem in ANY mmo. I guess the best way to put it is that every problem person on this list usually comes from the same problematic tree, the “You have to play efficiently” tree, other wise you’re bad and can’t join the guild, etc.

The reason people rush through content is fomo. It's just that simple, especially with things like class discord where everyone is posting vaults and logs and what bosses they are killing. No one wants to miss out and say it took them longer. Also gatekeeping is a huge factor, if you get aotc week 1, you will have invites for the rest of the expac vs someone who waited and doesn't look as good on paper.

Everybody rushing through content is a direct result of them putting time crunches on everything. Most people don't have the time to stop and smell the roses because they don't want to be left behind. If you're like me and have little time to play, ERA is actually a great game for character progression that you will never lose so it's very casual friendly. Play at your own pace and ignore the idiots who try to dictate how to play the game that YOU pay for. If you want to talk about the infuriating part of the game (at least for me) is that every time there's new content everyone wants a fresh start. I don't. I've done that five or six times now. I'm tired of having to start over. Here's to hoping that they backdate ERA with some changes to make things better, doubt it will happen but who knows!

I dont disagree with the wow is dead guy, but a slightly different perspective. It's not that the playercount is dying, it's that most of the world is empty because blizz incentivise rushing to max which is best done by playing through last expac and then playing solely in the current expac zone.

I'm the "we should be able to use apostrophes in character names" guy

I think the two that bother me the most are the rush through the game and then claim there’s nothing to do. The other is the WoW is dead people.

BG mainers are literally most wow players lol. They just actively keep working against their own best interests. And in my experience, it is almost entirely Alliance players that do this. Plenty of horde going "reeeee HoRdE dUmB Durrr" or shittalk their whole team the whole match instead of playing.. I just reply to whatever they say with "Less QQ, more PewPew" or "less typing, more sniping". I have them as macros and they usually work.

I am the 'Lost in the woods' guy. What, there is a whole ton of people doing stuff over there? Meh...where are those mushrooms though?

'This game is ded' what a classic!

Yes Nixxiom, please! There are new top 10 idiots of WOW, new top 10 coziest places on Azeroth, 10 new scariest places, etc. I am a fan of your top 10 series that you made in the past. Please make a new version of these videos or at least some of them. The game has changed, so many new zones, continents, and hidden places. I would love to see your modern WOW favorite zones too!

Nixxiom, I know you are only playing classic, but you forgot that cross faction BGs exist in retail aka DF. You can Q up as a 'merc' as a horde player and get in as an alliance. The guy talking shit was most likely an orc or something and just trolling, because he's actually horde.

I only play private servers because they’re free. Got nothing against the company. But after spending over 1000 dollars in monthly subscriptions charges and still not feeling accomplished in some way among other things, I gave up on paying for it.

the reason why there is an increase in the 5th kind of idiot is because there has been an increase in Blizzard designing the game around that style of play every "season" you basically have to regrind gear from scratch? it caters to no one except that type of player

I admit, I used to be the "There's nothing to do..." kind of player. At least in regards to pushing to get to max level, get my dailies, weeklies and such done and afterwards be bored since I tend to only main 1 character at any given time. However... After Shadowlands I quit all of that, to some extent. I still main 1 (maybe 2) character(s) for gear mainly what I can get from LFR, Heroic Dungeons and through the weekly stuff. Outside of that though I stopped pushing for gear and tend to play on my low level Twinks for fun nowadays. Currently journeying through older zones on a level 20 Twink with no spec, no mounts and no dungeons. While the journey will take longer, it has made my professions feel more important, and thus the experience has been more enjoyable for me.

HEAVY on the content rushers because they create a vacuum that sucks other normal players into rushing if they want to keep up with end game content. When i played classic in Lockdown the world felt so alive because they were people taking at their own pace, you could find people in every zone

Look I understand hating on third party websites but when playing the game now requires more, in-depth knowledge on what skills to use at what boss so the group doesn't take 1.5 second longer to down. It brings the whole game down and makes doing end game content impossible for a more casual or less than hardcore player.

I am the "has a life" guy because I have a family that requires a lot of my free time but I do NOT want the game to be as casual as possible Nixxiom, I swear!

What video was Nixxiom using at the start there?

Meta players are the most annoying and destroying the game because if you don't mim-max stats pre-bis with a specific Race Class combo then you're never getting into any raid on dungeons because your damage is 1999 instead of 2000

I got friends who do not play anymore theybspeed run like idiots. While i and mybwife play casual every day. The rush all and then cry there is no content. And game is dead. And i am like well i play every day after work in the evening. And they do everything during the day. At least i keep playing and enjoying remix right now. And i enjoy retail.

My favorite is private server Andy's that complain about the monetization of wow, while they play private servers that give out bis gear, gold, titles, and mounts for "donations". Or the ones who actively buy gold from g 2 g and then complain about the wow token.

"Some people dont use addons" Like damn, how the heck is that possible. I feel if i dont have at least a bossmod and a class weakauras i feel inmediately weaker

That 15 childrens part haha...lol

#1 spot is HARD RESERVED for players who vote to kick players from dungeons and report player names

Official and private server are not that different. The reason why I play private server is because I'm not from the west. $15 is my weekly salary, so it's not about which server is better my country is just not that rich.

7:02 that are also the people that act like "I have to sacrifice two childrens just to learn Fury Warrior on a basic level!" when you ask them why they cant do the most _Basic_ Stuff in the entire game, sure some specs are harder then others but tbh.. none of them are rocket science and there are many specs you can learn after 1-2 days training. 12:25 I met some guys like that, the most funny part some of them hate asmongold but still copy his behaviour.. like the "Full set andy" "HOW DARE YOU USING TRANSMOG YOU LIKE!" Jeez.. when people just want to use a full set whats the problem? WoW customization is rly lacking in compare to something like GW2/ESO etc and its understandable that some people are "lazy".

The problem with number 4 is some people simply don't care or think they are better than they actually are. But yes ranting still isn't the solution.

On the other end, I LOVE your idea of keeping the original 3 (classic, TBC and WotLK as it's own time capsule) you mentioned the other day.

I'm one of the guys with a busy life. But I just play when I can, as long as I want to. Don't usually raid or anything, but if i have some free time I might go ahead and do one. Never complained that it needs to be more casual friendly

The word 'parse' is a huge red flag in a player.

For real though. Those people who go in BGs who don't even have the cheap pvp crafted gear at least are selfish and ruin BGs.

I do understand players who don't have time for raids, they can't play everyday or stay late just for the team , some of them do make effort to find the time to play , it can be quite hard, but they too have the right to play what they want and how they want ^^

What about the people who don’t make dungeons fun by rushing ahead or pulling all the mobs?

On point 5: I am for sure one of these people; we burn through content because the actual fun content is M+ and raiding, I dont care about most random quest lines, PvP, pet battles, or other crap like that. I would have a much better time if we had heavier raid variety and content, maybe even 2 smaller raids per tier rather than 1, and an improved M+ with different and new affix, etc. I dont play WoW for the leveling, or the questing, I am here to raid and do M+

You forgot the 'insert feature here' ruined wow, guy. Whether it's dungeon finder, flying mounts, heirlooms, or whatever.