The 10 Worst Deviations From The Books in The Film Adaptations of Harry Potter

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@toodlescae
@toodlescae 3 ай бұрын
I can see having to leave quite a bit out but changing key points like they did is inexcusable. 1. Ron's character 2. Ginny's character 3. The stupid events at the Burrow in HBP.
@robtay1963
@robtay1963 2 ай бұрын
I wanted so much to see the cups pestering the Dursley's. And Petunia's face when Dumbledore said that at least Harry had escaped the treatment that Dudley had received. Would have been way better then an unprovoked and unnecessary attack in the Weasley home, which was perfectly restored in the next movie.
@kc3592
@kc3592 2 ай бұрын
Like the fire at the Burrow felt like them gaslighting me cause why would they do that?!
@nicholaslindsey7087
@nicholaslindsey7087 3 ай бұрын
#1 Not allowing Bonnie Wright to properly portray Ginny Weasley
@susanclay4225
@susanclay4225 3 ай бұрын
1# not allowing Rupert grunt to properly portray Ron
@Catherine.Dorian.
@Catherine.Dorian. 3 ай бұрын
@@susanclay4225#1 not allowing Harry Potter to have any personality
@M.A.C.01
@M.A.C.01 3 ай бұрын
Shoe lace was such a disservice for her character
@SonOfIzalith
@SonOfIzalith 3 ай бұрын
​@@Catherine.Dorian.he's so bland Even in the books tbh
@Catherine.Dorian.
@Catherine.Dorian. 3 ай бұрын
@@SonOfIzalith but at least he’s mildly spicy in the books where in the film he’s just part of the scenery
@Svensk7119
@Svensk7119 2 ай бұрын
I loved how the narrator mentioned the final fight. Voldemort's body just disappearing did no service to the story.
@connorwiederich
@connorwiederich 3 ай бұрын
Some of my picks: -Making Ginny shy and not saying much rather than sassy and not taking heat from others. Also her romance scenes with Harry in The Half Blood Prince movie were the worst scenes in the films for me. -The movie version of the maze removing all the creatures and the upside down mist. -Removing the Hepzibah Smith memory which was how Harry learned Hufflepuff's Cup and an artifact from Ravenclaw, which Dumbledore had determined after seeing the locket and cup were from Hogwarts Houses in the memory, were two of the horcruxes he was going to be looking for. I can understand leaving the Gaunt memories out but that memory should have been in the movie for sure. -Not having Voldemort and Harry's final duel be in front of others. Also Voldemort slapping and kicking Harry made no sense with him having a wand and being determined to kill Harry. -The added scenes in The Half Blood Prince of Harry being in a muggle cafe with The Daily Prophet flirting with the waitress and the attack on the burrow.
@arinerm1331
@arinerm1331 3 ай бұрын
My belief is that the actress portraying the waitress was either a relative of the moviemakers, or simply added for "diversity." I feel the same about the Scabior character in Deathly Hallows. That was a complete crime.
@FarzeenMouri12
@FarzeenMouri12 3 ай бұрын
The final fight scene was awesome in the books but they changed it too much in the movies.I read all the books and wanted to watch the movies but seeing how they ruined some of the best characters and scenes I decided not to watch them.
@iscariot2180
@iscariot2180 3 ай бұрын
One correction. Hepzibah Smith did not possess Ravenclaw's diadem. She possessed Hufflepuff's cup and Slytherin's locket.
@connorwiederich
@connorwiederich 3 ай бұрын
@@iscariot2180 I meant after seeing that Tom Riddle was interested in a locket from Slytherin and a cup from Hufflepuff Dumbledore was able to determine that he had picked an artifact from Ravenclaw as well. I knew I should have worded that statement better.
@mish375
@mish375 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, the Harry and Ginny romance was never well developed in the books. Harry just randomly decides he likes her despite it being established she's liked him for years. Also, he basically marries a woman who looks like his mother which is creepy as all hell. Not really the actors' fault because because that romance wasn't written well at all.
@Bryan198026
@Bryan198026 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't include Grindlewald basically selling Dumbledore out, the complete opposite of what he did in the book.
@spriken
@spriken 2 ай бұрын
I always thought is was less "selling Dumbledore out" and more "Okay, you want to poke the bear. Here's the stick, see what happens lol". He thought he was sending Voldemort to his doom.(And I guess he did kinda)
@MountainFisher
@MountainFisher 3 ай бұрын
Book Snape hated Harry, literally hated him. He didn't show or teach Harry how to do Occlumency properly as Dumbledore admitted at the end of OOTP. Also Harry told Snape during the lesson he wasn't telling Harry how and Snape just told him to mind his manners. The director of Goblet of Fire never read the book complaining it was too long, so he was going by whatever the screenwriters wrote without a clue. Frankly trying to turn an 800 page book into a 2 hour movie isn't going to work anyway.
@WilliamWizer
@WilliamWizer 3 ай бұрын
book snape hated everything potter with the exception of Lily. and it's not like he liked teaching to anybody other than his slytherin.
@MrSophire
@MrSophire 3 ай бұрын
He was telling him what to do, clear your mind and control your emotions. Harry also didn’t practice. He indulged in the dreams and let curiosity get a hold of him. Could Snape do a better job, yes he is the adult and Harry is still young but Harry didn’t even try. He was able to do it when he had to bury Dobby. He finally understood what Snape was telling him. Snape was always teaching Potter, yes in a horrible way but taught him nonetheless. If Hermonie was get over her prejudice and she actually listened to him. She learned a lot.
@mish375
@mish375 2 ай бұрын
Snape was a terrible person because it's established that he made a deal with Voldemort to save Lily, but didn't care about James or Harry, knowing they would be massacred. And he continues to torture Harry every year just for looking like his father. To me Snape's irredeemable.
@jenni5104
@jenni5104 2 ай бұрын
Just stop with the Snape hate and making shit up everyone. It's remarked a number of times that Snape consistently achieved one of the highest passing averages amongst the teaching staff and his classes were advanced well beyond their age. Smh Harry also didn't WANT to learn Occulumency. He wasn't receptive to it at all. Due to his own hatred of Snape. That's a rather tit for tat scenario. Also, it was Harry's fault that Snape stopped teaching him in the first place, because Harry is a little shit that can't do as he's told for once.
@jenni5104
@jenni5104 2 ай бұрын
​@@mish375If that's what you took from the source material, you're an idiot. JK Rowling disgrees with you as does Harry himself.
@jakomioftherose2434
@jakomioftherose2434 2 ай бұрын
Hermione taking all of Ron's moments and making Ron a jerk.
@respawnedlife
@respawnedlife Ай бұрын
Yeah the movies wanted to make her a Hollywood acceptable girl boss. The characters were all evenly matched in different aspects. Hermione I found to be annoying in the books, not because she was smart but because she kept sticking her nose into everythjng, Harry's firebolt for instance
@VeraEdelman
@VeraEdelman 3 ай бұрын
It is absolutely bonkers to me that the movies never explained who the creators of the Map were. It's literally a key detail of the series and not to mention there is a whole separate fandom based exclusively around them
@greggmacklin4222
@greggmacklin4222 3 ай бұрын
The worst of the worse was having Harry destroy the Elder Wand in the final film. Harry loved and respected Dumbledore, and could no more destroy his wand then he could be Death Eater,
@wvu05
@wvu05 2 ай бұрын
In all honesty, I liked the symbolism of snapping the wand in the movie so that no one could hold them all.
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
They Don't Even Show Harry Using The Elder Wand To Repair HIS Wand. To Tell Ya The Truth, I Like It Better With Him Returning The Wand To Dumbledore. Dumbledore Spent His Life Looking For The Deathly Hallows, Didn't Do Much With Them Once He Had Them. It's Only Fitting He Keep One, PLUS It Kept The Wand Secret And Safe.
@wvu05
@wvu05 2 ай бұрын
@@Eaglehawk4 If it kept the wand so secret and safe, how does Voldemort get it? Surely, some other megalomaniac would put two and two together and rob his grave to get it. The real offense in the adaptation was implying that Grindelwald gave up the secret.
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
@@wvu05 Voldemort Was Powerful Enough To Break Through All The Protection Surrounding Dumbledore's Tomb. It Wasn't Just A Stone Slab, This Is The Wizarding World We're Talking About. They Would've Put All Kinds Of Spells And Enchantments On It That To Keep Most People Out. Even In That World, Nothing Is Foolproof. Someone As Determined As Voldemort Wouldn't Stop Until He Got It.
@wvu05
@wvu05 2 ай бұрын
@@Eaglehawk4 There is one thing that is foolproof in that world: destroying it.
@annnnne
@annnnne 3 ай бұрын
Harry had zero personality in the movies outside of being humble and having a saviour complex. In the books he’s very witty and sarcastic.
@nightstrike90
@nightstrike90 3 ай бұрын
Should have just made Goblet 2 movies. No one would have complained
@grahamdamberger7130
@grahamdamberger7130 3 ай бұрын
It was the middle book of the series, no shame in splitting it into 2 movies. Have the first film end with the Yule Ball and the first conversation between Snape and Karkaroff, and the second film begin the morning after as the focus shifts to the second task of the Tri Wizard tournament.
@sunriseDPL4242
@sunriseDPL4242 3 ай бұрын
Or making the movie bit longer I must admit I'm enjoyed the Goblet of Fire movie but the pasing of the movie is so quick and always make feel like the movies is way shorter then it really is. Adding extra hour and half would add space for more materials from book and I think many people would happier with it.
@johnfohey5694
@johnfohey5694 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful art in this video
@meninogui
@meninogui 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@westzed23
@westzed23 3 ай бұрын
I think that they should have digitally made Harry's eyes green. Some off the deviations from the book were because they needed to get a PG-13 rating. I agree that they did not explain and show Harry's need to live with his Aunt to continue his Mother's protection. I do understand the need to cut characters out, but they should have shown more of Dobby to explain the deep grief that Harry felt. Also removing Cho's friend and making Cho the traitor didn't show Harry losing his love interest with her earlier. They could then have increased the attraction between Harry and Ginny earlier.
@YamiSpyroX
@YamiSpyroX 2 ай бұрын
2010: We can't have Worm-tongue get Strangled by his own hand in Deathly Hallows Part1. That's rearing far too close to an R-Rating! 2022: Batman is PG-13 despite the Riddler's psychotic Jig-Saw like plot-line. (Warner Bros? Um, hello?) What I don't understand is how they concluded they should revert back to "PG" in Half-Blood Prince. Draco still bled out. It should've been PG-13 anyway.
@robtay1963
@robtay1963 2 ай бұрын
​@@YamiSpyroXWorm Tongue? I don't remember him being in Harry Potter, I didn't think Sauraman let him out of his sight. Opps Wrong franchise. LMAO. We all know you meant Wormtail.
@YamiSpyroX
@YamiSpyroX 2 ай бұрын
@@robtay1963 Whoops. Sorry about that. Its not JK Rowling based Worm-tail off of Worm-Tongues name or anything! Heh, or those Horcux's for that matter!
@knotgradaunknown7414
@knotgradaunknown7414 2 ай бұрын
@@YamiSpyroX In all fairness The Batman is the kind of movie the pg-13 rating was originally made for. Not tame enough for all audiences, not explicit enough for an R- rating.
@YamiSpyroX
@YamiSpyroX 2 ай бұрын
@@knotgradaunknown7414 Yes. but it did sorta feel like it'd be a soft-R like 'The Killing Joke' due to the sheer dark themes, and the gritty realness, that comes with dealing with 'real' acts of criminal evil. I was just shocked to see that this got Lego Sets with a 8+ rating slapped on them. Like...What? I agree that this was a true PG-13 like Dune but the later feels more Lego friendly than the former. It was for adults. Why the toys?
@RoPiDe
@RoPiDe 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, i maybe the only person who wasn't really bothered by the Quiddich World Cup scene. There where so many important things that needed to happened, that i just couldn't care about a sports game
@sunriseDPL4242
@sunriseDPL4242 3 ай бұрын
I understand why people were upset with absence of Quiddich World Cup scene I also enjoyed that part of the book but nothing really from this part carry into next chapters only the attack that happened after the game and not for too long I think they did reasonable move for cutting the World Cup even if be would great to see it.
@Swearengen1980
@Swearengen1980 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I didn't care about it and it's like these channels forget that it's not easy to reduce a book down to a movie. You have to get shit rolling and fit it into a reasonable time frame while leaving more moments that appeal to the whole audience, not just book readers. The same reason I like the Snape arc changed to leave out the darker parts - Because I know they needed the movie to have a happier ending to satisfy a broader audience. It's like, I know people who heard about the terrible ending of Game of Thrones or Star Wars Ep 9 and didn't watch because of how stupid it was. Potter made a safe ending that worked. That's capitalism and the smart play.
@Catherine.Dorian.
@Catherine.Dorian. 3 ай бұрын
@@sunriseDPL4242yeah it would’ve been great but it wasn’t necessary for a time strapped film
@postmasterpez
@postmasterpez 3 ай бұрын
They dont portrait Quiditch preticually good in the films either.
@samjohnson7869
@samjohnson7869 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I didn't really care that much about quidditch. I'd rather have more of the story personally
@nbenefiel
@nbenefiel 3 ай бұрын
Films are rarely as good or as intricate as the books.
@LynetteMcGrath
@LynetteMcGrath 3 ай бұрын
Totally off topic, but in the Jasper FForde Thursday Next series about literary detectives, Thursday can enter books and ineract with the characters as long as no-one is reading the book at the time. There is a snarky bit about Harry Potter hating the movies because now when anyone reads the books they visualised Daniel Radcliffe instead of him!
@arinerm1331
@arinerm1331 3 ай бұрын
The portrayal of Snape's memories was particularly egregious. Was Snape present for Lily's murder? According to the movie he was. How else would it have shown up in the Pensieve?
@WilliamWizer
@WilliamWizer 3 ай бұрын
the thing is that Alan Rickman was tired of playing evil characters so Snape had to be the good guy that sacrificed himself for his love while James was a bully. in fact, there's the theory that Snape was to be revealed as loyal to voldemort but JK changed that to hook Rickman into playing the character. a similar thing happened with Hermione being made far better than in the books. and I will forever miss Peeves. they completely erased the character. all his actions were removed or credited to the weasley twins. the two other schools of the triwizard tournament are implied to be single gender while, in the books, both schools have students of both genders. the entire character development of Ginny Weasley was completely ignored making it difficult to understand why she went from ignoring harry to "I want to eat his mouth with all I have" and... for the grand finale the worst offender of all. Harry has blue eyes while Lily has BROWN eyes!!! over the entire story we are told that harry is like his father but with his mother's eyes. but in the movies they don't even share the color. note: most actors/actresses were miscast. Emma Watson is too pretty for Granger, Bonnie Wright is pretty but far from the gorgeous Ginny Weasley. Neville, Ron and the twins are also miscasts. I'm not saying they aren't good actors, far from it, but they don't fit their character's look.
@blackharmonics4518
@blackharmonics4518 2 ай бұрын
The eyes thing is funny. They actually tried to give Radcliffe colored lenses, but he couldn't wear them. I think they hurt him? Or some sort of allergic reaction? I can't remember exactly. But they could've CGI'ed them to match, I guess. Normally eye color wouldn't be important, but in that case they were some sort of key element, since they were the only thing that reminded Snape (and others) of Lily, when everyone else was talking about James.
@mish375
@mish375 2 ай бұрын
Snape was still evil. The book makes it clear that Snape didn't care if Harry died to Voldemort so long as Lily lived and he could have her. Then goes on to hurt Harry every year just because he looks like his dad. I can't stand his character because that alone makes him a terrible person.
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
I've Always Said That They Had But Alan Rickman And Gary Oldman Were PERFECT For Their Roles Because They Played Villains Before. I Read That Rowling Took Rickman Aside On The First Movie And Told Him Something No One Else Knew At The Time, Snape's Love For Lily. They WERE Going Have Peeves In The First Movie, Portrayed By Rik Mayall (Best Know For Playing DROP DEAD FRED), But The Part Got Cut Last Minute And They Never Brought Him Back. He WAS In The Video Games Though, Voiced By Chris Crosby
@WilliamWizer
@WilliamWizer 2 ай бұрын
@@Eaglehawk4 here is the thing. it's a lot easier to add peeves to a videogame than to a movie.
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
​@@WilliamWizer Still Don't Mean Fans Liked Not Seeing Him In The Movies Lol
@ggt47
@ggt47 2 ай бұрын
Everything done to Hermione. Took everything great about Ron and gave it her because of the writers bias.
@davidblazek2418
@davidblazek2418 3 ай бұрын
9:10 Sacrifical Protection spell didn't protect him only when he was in and considering Dursleys house as his home. It is the bond of blood charm. If that was true, why Dumbledore himself said that Voldemort by taking Harry's blood into his body tethered Harry to life?
@marguaritetherese3156
@marguaritetherese3156 3 ай бұрын
And if Petunia had Lily's blood, then Harry did too!
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
Voldemort Only Used A Little Of Harry's Blood, Just Enough To Be Able To Physically Touch Him. They Could See In Each Other's Mind Because Of The Horcrux But Voldemort Couldn't Control It For Very Long. Harry And Voldemort Were Connected In A Lot Of Ways But The Protection From Each Other Only Lasted To Certain Points.
@andeeharry
@andeeharry 3 ай бұрын
You know, there are a few things here that I can add. 1. Voldemort and the Death Eaters. All of Britain was terrified of these frightful ogres and yet they can be pushed around by wizard in training teenagers who didnt use much magic. It is a little bit of an insult to 10,000-15,000 people who said to have died in the First Wizarding War. In the books, they are the bogeymen that struck fear and terror into the hearts and minds of everyone due to thier infamous skills and power. I know a lot of people are curious about this one too. I doubt it was because of the taboo either. 2.Peeves: My favourite character. He made me laugh so hard during class, I was asked to leave many times for disturbing 'quiet hour'. It is a shame hey removed him completely, and apparently, it is because he made everyone laugh so much that they couldn't film properly. (I hope the tv reboot will feature him) 3. Winky: Shame they didn't keep her either. 4. Elder Wand: This one is messy and pointless. This tool was one of the three Deathly Hallows to master death, it is indestructible, unstoppable, has a long bloody history, it can't be trusted, it is strong, it can't be beaten, it makes the user unstoppable, it is legendary and somewhat infamous and yet......Harry Potter just snaps it in half and throws the pieces away. In the books, he just returns it to the tomb, but like in all these years, I am pretty sure other people would have tried to break it too. not only that, the loyalty thing is complicated. 5. Voldemort again: The End was weird. He just vaporised when the spell rebounded again, and it did look painful since he broke apart slowly. It is a satisfying end, despite the fact that he was a shrivelled thing at King's Cross. Not only that, he just died in the book 6. The World Cup: It was rather disappointing, as I was looking forward to that one. They managed to show the Hogwarts version no problem.
@blackharmonics4518
@blackharmonics4518 2 ай бұрын
About 5: I mean... It's satisfying seeing him die like that in the movies, but I think it's a bit contraproductive. Maybe it's just me, but the way everyone except Dumbledore feared to use his self given name (Voldemort) like it's bringing a curse, made him some sort of legendary or supernatural (in a godly sense). Dumbledore tried hard to put this into perspective by consequently using his name or even using his real name (Tom Riddle). Later, Harry adapted that. And in Voldemort dying like a normal human being, I think it broke some of the fear/worship (in case of the Death Eaters) the people had. They always thought of him as a supernatural, immortal, indestructable being, but he was in fact just a human with many, MANY flaws, although really powerful. Edit: That's why I think it's SO important that he died like a normal human in the books. The movie death just sort of "proved" his supernatural like status. (Plus, nobody saw it happen, so how can they be sure, that he doesn't come back once again? Just because Harry says it?)
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
One Thing I Hated Was The Fact That The Spell That Killed Serius Black In The Movie Was GREEN. It CLEARLY Says In The Books That He Was Taunting Bellatrix And And She Shot Red Jet At Him, Striking Him In The Chest And Sent Him Crumbling Through The Veil. The SPELL ITSELF Didn't Kill Him, The VEIL DID
@josephesquivel4066
@josephesquivel4066 2 ай бұрын
Also right before Harry returns the Elder Wand to the Tomb he uses it to repair his old wand being the only wand capable of it.
@jayducharme
@jayducharme 2 ай бұрын
All good points. For me, the most upsetting change was with Mad-Eye. In the Goblet of Fire book he was a formidable and dangerous person who commanded respect. In the movie (with that absurd strap-on eye) he was little more than a bellowing clown. The portrayal abandoned everything that made Mad-Eye such a memorable character. In fact, the Goblet of Fire movie suffered from too many alterations, eliminating much of what made it such a richly fascinating story (such as Hermione's creation of SPEW and Harry's growing awareness of the ministry's constant bungling).
@solaris9426
@solaris9426 3 ай бұрын
To be fair about the Wormtail scene: suicide by autoasphyxiation is very dark, and while it is okay to put to words, it's not okay to show in a PG-13 film. I suspect the filmmakers changed it to avoid Deathly Hallows Part 1 getting an R or NC-17 rating, as I don't think even cutting away and showing Pettigrew suffocating himself through shadows would have saved it. Also, Pettigrew was supposed to return in Part 2, but apparently, his role was cut.
@Swearengen1980
@Swearengen1980 3 ай бұрын
Especially with all the controversy over suicide being a touchy subject these days. That Professor Sprout actress who recently said the movies are only for kids and adults should grow up and get over it. I guess she didn't read the books. There are certainly aspects of the Potter series that are not "only for kids". Even with the cleaned up versions, my kid actually doesn't like the Deathly Hollow films because they're not appealing to younger kids.
@CM.825
@CM.825 2 ай бұрын
Then it should not have been PG-13 but a higher rating like R. Simple. Younger children (especially those in the audience who accompanied their parents and older siblings but hadn't yet read the books, or been read to, beforehand) were already pretty scared by what happened in PS. Or by the Basilisk and the Acromantula scene in CoS. Arachnophobia! Nightmares for years. Or the Dementors in PoA or OotP, those were mighty scary... And watching Cedric Diggorey getting killed by Wormtail point blank by AK just like that in GoF was pretty harsh if you had not already read the books. There are so many movies out there aimed at teens that show plenty of injustice, betrayal, (fantasy) violence, cruelty and death on screen, I don't see how Peter Pettigrew getting strangled by his silver hand in DH would have been worse? The HP books are great imho but they are definitely pretty dark from the very first book onwards. They deal with serious issues. (Just like many of the classic fairy tales or YA books, Oliver Twist, David Copperfield, Mathilda, Treasure island, Lord of the Flies, Lord of the Rings...) It's all about death and dying, neglect and abuse, apathy towards other people suffering, trauma, depression, betrayal, injustice, misuse of power by people in authority, government corruption, misjudging of people in general, Machiavellism, hatred, prejudice, fighting, terrorism, counter-terrorism, yet survival against all odds. There's also so much bravery, compassion, hope and friendship! That's the reason why they resonate so much with readers of all ages, hundreds of millions of adults and teenagers have read them too since 1997, again and again. Not just children. Countless People have found inspiration to not give up, but to face their personal problems, be brave and to persevere. As grownups! This spirit of the books must be shown on screen. Including the violent and ugly parts which might garner a higher rating. Including Dobby, Winky, Kreacher, the tragic backstory of the Marauders and Snape, and the equally tragic origin stories of Tom Riddle and Barty Crouch Junior. There are circumstances and reasons why these bright young men did what they did. I sincerely hope that the planned new TV series will do them justice. Show us. Here they can and should elaborate, put an effort into making it right and explain more. Don't show us so many silly awkward romcon attempts or a pointless attack on the Burrow like in the HBP movie... Harry should not be shown reading the Daily Prophet newspaper in a Muggle café in the Surbiton tube station at the start. That's insane! Breaking the Statue of Secrecy!? What a terrible, ridiculous, incompetent movie that one is! I agree.
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
Also, Pettigrew Didn't Kill Himself. That Silver Hand Was Both A Blessing And A Curse, And Only Served Him As Long As HE Served Voldemort. Once He Hesitated In Killing Harry, That Hand Turned On Him. Voldemort Made Sure Of That When He Gave It To Him. I Remember The Book Even Says That Just Before He Was Strangled, Pettigrew Fearfully Said 'NO MASTER! NO!'. It Wasn't Suicide, Just Another Murder Commeted By Voldemort
@CM.825
@CM.825 2 ай бұрын
@@Eaglehawk4 Yes, thanks, very good that you point out that this specific death isn't a suicide in any way! How did people here get this wrong impression? In the book Pettigrew's death in the cellar of Malfoy Manor was quite abrupt but deeply satisfying in hindsight. It should have been shown on screen to make clear that Wormtail does not get away with betraying everyone. First he betrayed the Potters as their Secret Keeper. Sirius sought revenge, he tracked down Wormtail, wanted to kill the former friend to punish him for the betrayal. Then Wormtail hid for over ten years as a rat at the Weasley family, happy to play their children's pet, with no intention at all to help the child Harry or his former friends Sirius and Remus. Or the Dark Lord. If Pettigrew had felt remorseful for example, he could have turned himself in, clear up what had really happened back in October 1981 and be consequently sentenced to life in Azkaban. Sirius could have been freed and been able to look after little Harry (in theory). Or, alternatively, searching for his master and attempting to help the Dark Lord in any way as a loyal follower. Wormtail simply enjoyed his relatively carefree life as a pet rat at the Burrow. Later, at the end of book 3, PoA, Sirius and Remus wanted to kill Pettigrew, take revenge. Harry stopped them. But not because of his 'good heart', he was furious at Wormtail for betraying Harry's parents and disgusted by his cowardly behaviour, but because Harry believed that Pettigrew could be presented to the Ministry of Magic to get a trial for Pettigrew and Sirius, which would finally clear up that Sirius was 1. innocent in the betrayal of the Potters, 2. that he wasn't a follower of the Dark Lord and 3. that he didn't kill those 12 Muggles. And in that scene in the cellar Pettigrew did attempt to betray the Dark Lord by not killing, or just incapacitating Harry and Ron. (Spells like Stupefy, Petrificus Totalus or Incarcerus come to mind) Therefore he deserved to die from a magical standpoint, because Voldemort - his lord's magic - had crafted him this silver hand as a reward (and failsafe because Voldemort knew that Wormtail was a spineless, opportunistic coward) after the Resurrection ritual in GoF.
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
@@CM.825 The Potters Were Only The LAST People Wormtail Turned Over To Voldemort. When Sirius And Remus Were Yelling At Him, We Find Out That He Had Been Relying Information For Over A Year Before The Potters Death. And I DO Believe I Found Something That Harry Didn't Want His Father's Friends To Become Killers In The Book, But Either Way, It Wasn't For Pettigrew's Sake. If Wormtail DID Go To Azkaban, I Don't Think He'd Last Very Long Because The Other Death Eaters There Would've Killed Him.
@TheRealTricky
@TheRealTricky 13 күн бұрын
Cho's breakup: Important to note is also that Hermione's "SNEAK" jinx was completely omitted in the movies. Harry took pride in Hermione's stunt, while Cho was outraged. Wormtail's death: It was important, but as far as I've been told it was censoring. Harry Potter attracted a young audience and the silver hand strangling its owner was deemed too horrifying. Yet it was indeed important that Wormtail would be shown to pay off his life debt. If not by his own silver hand, than perhaps by a Death Eater casting Avada Kedavra on him, but the stun (if I ain't mistaken performed by Dobby) was the cheap way out. Merope's omission: Certainly beyond me, as it does explain a lot about the Slytherin bloodline, and perhaps also Voldemort's pride in all this. Not to mention how wrong Merope was in using a love potion to get a man to was revolted by her to love her (which is actually a kind of rape). Voldemort's death: The disintegration was also bad as it places Voldemort as having gone beyond humanity (as he took pride in). Just a normal corpse, snake like, yes, but still a normal corpse, indeed humiliated in death in face of everyone, was showing that Voldemort was just a (foolish) human being after all and that his great abilities didn't change that fact. Marauders: Not only does Harry refer to Peter as "Wormtail", but when he tries to convey the message to Snape that "Padfoot" was in danger (which Umbridge did of course not understand, but that was Harry's intention), it made no sense in the movies that Harry knew that name, nor that Snape did know what Harry meant. If you read the books, you'll know why both knew this. (The films also omitted that Snape warned Dumbledore, but perhaps that was easy to assume). In the novel Snape calls Lupin in when he confiscated the Marauder's Map, which was a hint to Lupin being one of the Marauders. In the movie Lupin just coincidentally happens to pass by. I must confess that although I've seen (and enjoyed) all the movies, that the more I re-read the books, the more I see how terrible the movie adaptations were, and yes, that began with the Prisoner Of Azkaban. A few more things that I absolute hated about the movies: - Dumbledore's hysteria when Harry name came out of the Goblet of Fire, while in the book he remained calm. - The exact reason why "priori incantatum" took place when Harry fought Voldemort at the graveyard is completely omitted in the films. Odd, since in film 1 Olivander did mention the two feathers of the same phoenix that Harry's and Voldemort's wands share, signifying the connection between Harry and Voldemort. - The fact that the prophecy could also have referred to Neville Longbottom, but that Voldemort actually chose Harry to be his nemisis, was also omitted, while this could have made Neville so much more important and shining, not to mention that the entire coming true of that prophecy was all Voldemort's work in the end. - Gellert Grindelwald never betrayed the resting place of the Elder Wand in the novels. He even predicted that the Elder Wand would never belong to the Dark Lord and that the damn thing would even be his downfall, showing his actual redemption. Voldemort was angered by it, used the killing curse on Grindelwald. This is so contractionary to the movies here he immediately tells Voldemort with an evil grin, that Dumbledore had the Elder Wand all along. Given the kind of villain Grindelwald is in the Fantastic Beasts films ruins that part of his character even more. - In the movies Barthy Crouch Jr. took pride in being revealed as a Death Eater even taunting his father with a sarcastic "hello father". In the movies he always denied being a Death Eater and was downright desperate and in true fear. In the movies Dumbledore tells Harry that the evidence against Crouch jr. was "overwhelming". In the novels Sirius tells Harry the exact opposite. This made the revelation that the fake Mad-Eye Moody was actually Crouch jr. even more of a "WHAT THE FUCK" moment. - The wolf's bane potion that Snape made for Lupin to prevent him from going berserk while in werewolf form was completely omitted in the movies, however Sirius mentioned it just before Lupin transforms into his wolf form ("Did you take your potion, tonight?") It made no sense that Sirius knew about Snape making the potion for him in the first place, plus when you never read the book the entire mention of the potion didn't make sense at all. - In the movies the trio had no idea what they were doing when hunting the Horcruxes. In the novels the only Horcrux unknown to Harry was Harry himself as Dumbledore only tells this when Harry meets him in Limbo. Them finding the Horcruxes even knowing that Hufflepuff's Cup and Ravenclaw's diadem were Horcruxes made little sense. - Wouldn't it have been better if Harry kissed Ginny passionately after Ginny made the winning move in the final Quidditch game, like in the books. Made a lot more sense than in the room of requirement after hiding the textbook of the Half Blood Prince. (Not to mention the fact the Snape demanded to see Harry's potions textbook, which was a straight in-your-face hint to Snape being the Half Blood Prince, as a result to Harry's sectumempra curse on Malfoy, was also omitted). - In the movies, the falsified memory of Voldemort asking Slughorn about the Horcruxes scrambled the word "Horcruxes". In the novels, it was clear from the start that Voldemort asked about Horcruxes, although it was only revealed after the true memory was shown what a "Horcrux" actually was. - In the novels Ron was insecure which made him sometimes not appear the best way possible, yet being brilliant at many times without him even realizing it, but in the movies he was a repulsive idiot. - Where did the portable swamp go? The best prank Fred & George pulled. - Umbridge's hand appearing in the fireplace trying to catch Sirius. This was first of all a horrifying moment in general, second it showed all the more that the Floo network was being monitored, and monitored networks are THE sign of true dictatorships, which is very horrible to realize. It also shows how stupid Umbridge was, as she revealed herself this way, while she could have scored so much more if she was more patient, even if it meant letting Sirius go, but her lack of patience, obsession to score too quickly not only led to ending up with less, but also that she revealed herself as spying the network, which is something you do not want to do when spying. The movies letting this out was not a good move. - Harry NEVER saw Wormtail on the Marauder's map in the novels. He did see Crouch jr. on the map the year after that, but as sr and jr are not shown by the map, Harry thought it was Crouch sr. A clear hint to the fake-Moody, omitted and as fake-Moody could talk Harry into lending the map to him this was awkward. (Now Lupid DID see Wormtail on the map during year #3). - Mrs Figg being a Squib who actually had to monitor Harry on Dumbledore's behalf was most of all left out. Her entry in the movie therefore made less sense. - I also wonder why the movies didn't reveal that Umbridge was the one who sent the Dementors after Harry in order to force him to use his magic, so the ministry could expel him for underage magic usage? In both the novels and the movie she does hint about it in Harry's hearing, but the movies never confirmed this. - And the story about Ariana Dumbledore was completely omitted, which is what I hated most of all. You see her portrait, but the true story was never revealed. It tells a lot about Dumbledore's character, and with Grindelwald being the main antagonist of the Fantastic Beasts series, this omission made even less sense.
@rocistone6570
@rocistone6570 3 ай бұрын
It would require sets of four-hour films to do everything in the books. The limits of film exhibition and film audiences confine films to around three hours at a time. Something has to go, as the saying goes. Your tone of disappointment is conspiratorial. There is no harder more harrowing task in the field of creative writing than turning a book into a screenplay. WhIe I dislike some of what was done in the films and how the finale was presented. I cannot fault the cinematic presentations as they were re-written. There isn't a bad film in the series, but I would have also made other choices in my turn. The author did not seem terribly stricken with the presentation of the works in question. So what the audience is left with is a grand game of "What-if."
@farfaraway4285
@farfaraway4285 2 ай бұрын
I just listen to the audiobooks these days and pretend it’s the movie in the background.
@catterin7815
@catterin7815 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully the upcoming series will fix/include all the missing items. To include portraying the correct colors and mascot for Ravenclaw. Blue and Bronze are the colors and the mascot is the Golden Eagle. The Golden Eagle is known for it's black (or raven) claws.
@aharontyson6958
@aharontyson6958 2 ай бұрын
The Quidditch World Cup biggest omittance was Ludo Bagman's role not missing the match although it would be cool.
@iscariot2180
@iscariot2180 3 ай бұрын
Snapes's character wrong adaption is the MAIN and the WORST deviations. Others in the list is hardly play a role compared to that as for me. However i want to add few more: 1. Absence of Winky and Dobby and their role in events taking in Goblet of fire; 2. Trelony role and the Prophecy text were not revealed
@respawnedlife
@respawnedlife Ай бұрын
Like the fact that snape was ok with tom riddle killing james and harry as long he spared Lilly.
@jackw.3504
@jackw.3504 3 ай бұрын
I know people wanted more of Voldemort's background, but they could only put so much in the film. JK Rowling said it herself it is a story about love, but not a romance story. Lilly's love for Harry saved him. Voldemort couldn't stand to touch Harry's mind because of it and his love for Ginny that kept him going up until the final battle. Even Snape's love for Lilly. We already knew Voldemort was the big bad evil guy, but if you cut out the romantic pairings then in the end when Harry and Ginny kiss you'd be like "Where the heck did that come from!?!". Also it doesn't help that Bonnie had almost 0 chemistry with Daniel as she said she sees him like a big brother. I hope the new series follows the books better.
@professorsassafras
@professorsassafras 2 ай бұрын
The half blood prince was actually my favorite film
@farfaraway4285
@farfaraway4285 2 ай бұрын
Marauders deserve their own miniseries
@lornepribbeno3760
@lornepribbeno3760 2 ай бұрын
The memories of Riddle were what made the 6th book my favorite. And yes, the romance stuff was overblown and, more importantly, all wrong. I wanted that moment in the book for Ginny and Harry.
@thoughtfulwatcher
@thoughtfulwatcher 2 ай бұрын
CinemaTherapy had a fair point of book vs movie Snape. Had they stuck with the book version we'd have a movie mostly about abuse of schoolkids. Audiences were unlikely to tolerate it.
@robertsmiley2207
@robertsmiley2207 Ай бұрын
I would have loved seeing the silver hand 🖐️ strangle worm tail that shouldn't have been changed
@daniellewylie6187
@daniellewylie6187 2 ай бұрын
I really hated the way that the film ended Voldemort
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
I Found A Cut Scene Not To Long Ago Where They DID Stick With The Book As Far As Voldemort's Death. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKx9q7Wnl8DFmmQ.html
@farfaraway4285
@farfaraway4285 2 ай бұрын
This could easily be a list of 50
@otbaht
@otbaht 3 ай бұрын
for me i understand some things have to change for it to fit in a movie so I have two main things that to be feel like oh come one and instantly come to mind. Watching this others totally made sense for the list but these are the two that popped into my head. first in movie six they should have take time to at least mention they are learning silent spell casting or it goes from movie one "it is all about proper and precise pronunciation" to at the end where they are basically doing magical guns with their wand. second him breaking the wand and not even healing his own wand! I mean if the elder wand could be destroyed that easily dumbledore would have either done it himself of told someone, or multiple someones, to make sure it was broken in half when he died to make sure voldemort couldn't get it. Normal wands aren't something casually destroyed. i mean even rons wand was still technically usable from that car crash with the womping willow and his was a hand me down wand of normal power and the elder wand was the strongest one. And it destroyed the little thing about harry wanting to be himself and not just grab onto power.
@professorsassafras
@professorsassafras 2 ай бұрын
But Voldemort has the blood of Harry's mother this meaning he himself continues the blood protection so Harry's continued living at the Dursleys was unnecessary
@user-yq9ko7vu7c
@user-yq9ko7vu7c 3 ай бұрын
I love Harry Potter and witchcraft and wizards
@spriken
@spriken 2 ай бұрын
#7 I actually think Voldemort's movie death makes more sense. Spells often don't survive the death of the caster unless something is acting as a glue to keep it working. Voldemort's soul is the most obvious glue for his new body after Wormtail is killed. Voldemort's soul was likely all that really held him together and it was being eroded away with the destruction of every Horcrux. Each of the Horcruxes seems weaker than the last so it's a pretty safe guess they each got half of whatever was left in Voldemort, with the first(the book) getting 50% Voldemort's soul and Harry getting 0.390625 of soul. In the end after Harry's piece was destroyed the last was 0.78125 of soul in Nagini, with her death there was only a bit of willpower to keep that body together. I actually think it's also the real reason he couldn't be the master of the Elder wand. The Elder wand only allows it's self to be mastered by the most powerful. Draco was in fact in that moment more powerful than a dying Dumbledore, and Harry was more powerful than him but Voldemort missing most of his soul did not rate as far as the Elder wand thought.
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
The Thing Is That The Books Wanted To Prove That Voldemort, The Monster, Was Simply Tom Riddle, The Man.
@MaskedZoo
@MaskedZoo 3 ай бұрын
Heres what I dont understand. Every bad thing in the movies happened because Voldemort was afraid of death and dying. Why? For us in the real world it makes sense. Theres a million religions and sects trying to define the afterlife, ghost stories, mediums, but nothing is definitive proof. But for Voldemort, he gets to talk to ghosts all the time, his family ring holds the stone of resurrection, and paintings can eventually learn to contain an ersatz copy of someones personality to carry on when they are gone. Buddy, you know there is an afterlife wizards go to, you even know there's an execution veil where you can hear spirits on the other side. What is your holdup? I cant even 😮 I feel like most peoples fear of death stems from the unknown after life or the uncertain fear of complete nonexistence once consciousness ends. What's his excuse? That he wants to keep meddling in the affairs of the mortal realm forever? Ghosts who linger find their own quirky hobbies and social greets, and ghosts on the other side just watch us and cease to have any real incentive to care beyond events that affect immediate living family. When anyone uses the stone of resurrection, you get the impression that spirits tend to be prompt with their unfinished business and dont really want to linger in phase between worlds or be bothered with mortal affairs. To take this a step further, in Stephen Kings Doctor Sleep when the spirit of Dick Halloran is brought to our realm with Dannys shine or when he possesses the freshly deceased body of an old woman to give a warning, you get the impression that once a spirit passes over, it takes a great deal of energy, lot of stress and effort to reach out to the living, and they seem really happy to cease the contact and go back to their realm as soon as possible. The point I mean to make is once Voldemort dies (provided he didnt shatter his soul in the first place), he wont care about what goes on in the wizarding world, he'll be as happy being dead as the rest of the spirits.
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
If You Think About It, That's The Reason For A Lot Of Villains. Not Only Do They Want Power, They Want To KEEP IT, Even The Power Over Death.
@allenfoster8289
@allenfoster8289 3 ай бұрын
I say good luck witht the new channel. It is hard to break into it when they have a few huge channels already. I do hope your not using ai voices. I know some voiceactors who have their likeness stolen for these kind of videos. I dont think you are, but just stating it
@FabricatedPheonix
@FabricatedPheonix 3 ай бұрын
This is definitely AI. It's mispronouncing words in a way that only AI really would.
@jamesrussell2936
@jamesrussell2936 3 ай бұрын
@@FabricatedPheonix For a small channel just having fun AI is fine but if it's big enough it's not cool
@TheEddieguy82
@TheEddieguy82 3 ай бұрын
I really hope that we get a good/great show out of it based off the books and not a F**K up show like so many others when they try do something based from a book/Game/Anime/Cartoon. when they don't know the story at all but think J.K will be around all the time so hopefully it goes well
@fasdfdsdfs
@fasdfdsdfs 3 ай бұрын
I really hope that they require whoever they cast to have read the books. [Points at Michael Gambon who admitted he didn't]
@iscariot2180
@iscariot2180 3 ай бұрын
I have no faith in it. Look at Cursed Child and Fantastical Beasts crap. TV show expects to be worse. They will rather cast black girl as Hermione, asian family as Weasley's and Harry Potter will be gay.
@Havok0ne
@Havok0ne 3 ай бұрын
My favorite divination from the book was when Profesor Trewloney saw the grim in Harry's cup
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
They Should've Added In Professor McGonagall Reassurance To The Movie. One Of Times You Get To See Her More Witty Side Lol ”You look in excellent health to me, Potter, so you will excuse me if I don't let you off homework today. I assure you that if you do die, you need not hand it in.”
@PrincessAshley-Kawaii
@PrincessAshley-Kawaii 2 ай бұрын
personally elfs didnt need free'd TERRIBLE ark in the books... an of all things a bucky not so pretty woman doing ti only felt like the blind leading the deaf..
@spencerhiginbotham7538
@spencerhiginbotham7538 3 ай бұрын
I think the movie made up for all these deviations with the, "I'm sorry Professor, but I must not tell lies."
@farfaraway4285
@farfaraway4285 2 ай бұрын
I think a lot of that was destroyed beforehand by “Harry, did you put your name into goblet of fyaaaah?!” 😂
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
@@farfaraway4285 When I Read That Part, Dumbledore Was More Calm When He Said That To Harry. The REAL Fire In His Eyes First Came When He Confronted Moody/Crouch
@farfaraway4285
@farfaraway4285 2 ай бұрын
The last duel with Voldemort was such a disappointment. In the book Harry destroys his image infront of everyone, shows no respect, explains things, humiliates him, shows how limited Voldemort actually is. And Voldemort dies like any other human, final proof that he’s not special. Not this slap-kick beat down in the movie. Like, why?
@Eaglehawk4
@Eaglehawk4 2 ай бұрын
I Know, Harry Had A Long Speech When He Confronted Tom For The Last Time. Voldenort Went From Man To Monster Then From Monster To Man. Why Didn't They Show It That Way In The Movies? No GLORY For Starters. Lol SUPER POWERFUL VILLAIN Needed An OVER EXAGGERATED DEFEAT
@jenni5104
@jenni5104 2 ай бұрын
The films were pretty much rubbish with the exception of the outstanding adult cast, let's face it. Doesn't help that they had a trashy soap director in charge.
@ptorq
@ptorq 3 ай бұрын
I've never read the books nor have I seen much of the movies, but ... did you really want to see a 10-15 minute greenscreen sequence of a bunch of kids playing some bogus "sport" with rules that make no sense? Cutting it was clearly the objectively right decision; there's no way they could have filmed anything that would have lived up to what people were hoping to see and it just would have cost a lot and been a disappointment.
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