I E2 Shamare and probably will do the same for Kafka just because I like this combo, so yes, this is true endgame gameplay

​@@gaelx3d674 As a note, there are some high CC stall strats that requires E0 kafka, cause kafka's sleep duration doesn't ever increase only the damage does, so you want her to be at lowest possible dp for sleep spamming. If you do high risk CC, raising bibeak for base will be a better option.

I plan my "Who do I E2 immediately?" and "Who do I pull?" off of their base skills, these days (though I'll still pull and promote operators that I really like or think I'll really need)

@@isacat9547 oh I know, but I'm not into super high CC and I like Kafka dealing damage for the funs

i probally using bibeak since o love her art, skin and VA

In it for the long haul I see.

Archetto with any 2*30% gets same % as Exu squad. But you need all dorms maxed. Edit. There is also for factory that I use: 1. Exp: Pallas + Vermeil + Scene 2. Exp/Gold: Mizuki + 2 * Standardization a/b. 3. Gold: Purestream + Weedy + Passanger + Eunectes + Lancet-2

Huh, I've always used Silverash+Archetto+Jaye.

I use Archetto+Tuye+Kirara with 4 Gold Factories.

@@Genshinlmpact That's only 92%. Silverash + Cliffheart + Jaye is better group (95%), especially after Gnosis is available, where he can provide another 30% to the trio when he is in the control center (which adds up to 125%). You can save Archetto to make a group of Archetto + Snowsant + Exusiai (110%) to replace the Exusiai + Texas + Lappland trio (100%).

@@HD-fy2wu cliffheart requires E2, no?

Its a win win to E2 shamare, her debuff is bless for my exia

Hmm, haven't witnessed that bug before. Note that if Tequila leaves a TP while an order is in progress, the order will still have Tequila's +250/+500 LMD boost once it finishes. Perhaps you're switching him from one TP to another, and this is what's happening? Also, agreed, Shamare is great to use in combat too.

@@PeterYR no, I never switch him. sometimes lappland and texas and jaye gets extra 2500 lmd. or maybe its 1000 +1500. also, can you check the roi for tequila and bibeak.

@@winmen5279 I think it's just 1000 + 1500 ones, no bug there at all

What's a 343? Is it even possible since there's only 9 rooms for production?

@@quiteliteral3911 I think he means 333?

A year later and I've finally E2'd Sham. Out of all 4 in the team, she's the only one still 100% useful in battle. -50% ATK/DEF is still unbeaten and totally broken. Can't justify E2ing Bibeak at this stage in the game, and E0 Kafka is needed for DP-cheap Sleep spamming. E2 Tequila has had his thunder stolen by Mlynar. For the 3rd, I just use Firewhistle to extend the other 2's slavery timer.

Bruh shemare kit itself is insane. She works well on the squad. Even with high end risk CC. Tequila and bibeak also a solid A unit. You waste nothing here. All of them are good investment.

At the moment, Shamare and Bibeak still have uses. While Tequila is replaced by Młynar, it is still worth E2ing for his base skill. Kafka on the other hand is better at E0 for her lower cost and mainly used for Sleep than damage.

I don't think it's worth it to use Mr.Nothing's base skill with Dusk and Ling as it contradicts with Rosmontis' base skill. Especially now in CN Ebenholz can join the Dusk, Ling and Rosmontis (and Whisperain) combination to make the combination even more efficient.

You forget whispperrain+saileach

@@HD-fy2wu I think you are confusing the two. Rosmontis is factory efficiency. Mr Nothing is trade orders efficiency. There's overlap for Dusk and Ling's skills with both operators, but it's possible to schedule both into the rotation. Currently I don't have Iris. But I have rosmontis rotating with Mr. nothing in my base. Along with Ling Whisperain and Mulberry.

You just have a normal 36h rotation because Shamare has the Tailoring α skill herself, the increased morale consumption from Whisper gets cancelled out.

yes you should finish base and you should max castle and e1 spot steward gravel frostleaf shira perfumer vermeil ambriel matoi conviction, but not pinecone

Props to you. i have been using this for 8 months. Highly suggest you to have 3 gold producing factories as you would want to use your drones to boost the trading posts. definitely worth it in the long run.

@@ricetorttu yeah I stacked up on some gold before this. And I'm not droning lmd rn but def going to start soon 👍 Next base goal is Proviso now

He meant to prioritize using drones on this TP combo, after they've ramped up. Ideally you want to save the drones to spend on this TP combo if you can, if you can't, spending on factories is the more efficient option. Other TP combos don't net you that extra lmd for 4 bar orders via tequila skill, nor increase the likelihood of the next order being 4 bars via shamare and bibeak skills. Droning other TPs would be like gambling, hoping to get 4 bar orders next, aka not efficient in drone usage overall.

1.) E2 Tequila will give you about 8 extra sanity per day compared to his E0 self. 5-stars generally cost around 3800 sanity to E2, so it'll take around 475 days (1.3 years) for E2 Tequila to pay off. 2.) Shamare already has Tailoring alpha, and Tailoring skills don't stack, so adding E0 Bibeak won't do anything. So you can look at the table entry for E2 Shamare and E0 Tequila (the top right).

I would also add that if you think that you'd ever intend to level up every operator at some point (or specifically Tequila) in the distant future then it's always worth doing the base skill operators 1st as that's pure savings then with no downtime to the ROI. The reason for this is because it's a foregone conclusion that you're going to spend the resources to level them (in this scenario) therefore the cost is 0 and you begin generating the additional resources the second you acquire the new base skill. I realize that very few players actually intend to do this and it's also dependent on how long you intend to realistically play arknights actively.

This is not a good question to answer. Many people fall in the hole of "its not good to e2 just for base skills" but the issue is that the entire point of the game, unless you don't deplete your sanity daily, is that eventually you WILL promote your operators. The real question is, "is there someone more WORTH to promote RIGHT NOW, rather than promoting for base skills at the moment?"

@@gaswe9236 Good point. I would add that Paradox Simulations are like unlocking free content. Like imagine an extra events worth of content that you get from E2'ing as many operators as possible. Not every operator has 1 yet but they're on track to add them to everyone so you could invest in Tequila now knowing that sooner or later you'll get a free, unique stage to play.

@@PeterYR does chip and material buyed from event shop decrease tequila roi in any form?

Don't e2 just for base. The ROI isn't worth it, people who e2 for base do it cos they like having fun with it E2ing Shamare is prolly something you'll do eventually tho since she's pretty good in combat

That Shamare S2M3 -50% ATK/DEF shred in a 3x3 tile radius is godly.

Hmm nice i like the smell of gold.

This works, in theory, for Tequila. You can have him rest for an hour or two, every 8-12 hours, for 100% uptime without needing Fiammetta. Use drones to make sure a TP order doesn't finish before Tequila returns to the TP. But this requires a lot of precise logins, so I don't recommend it. This also won't work very well on Bibeak/Kafka/etc, as the Tailoring skills have to ramp up over the course of a few hours before they reach full effectiveness. You'd be repeatedly resetting this ramp-up, hurting efficiency.

Out of these 3 5*s, shamare sees more utility and overall use if you do have a decent team already me thinks. By priority I would go for Shamare, Tequila (for that lmd boost) then bibeak.

Archetto only hits 40% if you max out your dorms, which a typical 252 base can't. But it works if you run 153, or 243 for some reason.

yea, i run 243

Assuming you have Shamare and Bibeak, E2 Tequila will give you about 8 extra sanity per day compared to his E0 self. 5-stars generally cost around 3800 sanity to E2, so it'll take around 475 days (1.3 years) for E2 Tequila to pay off.

@@PeterYR what if I use Fiametta for 100% uptime and also dump all my sanity into trading post. How will that change the ROI for an E2?

You'll get him in 6 months!

Soon

bibeak and kafka (and now also paprika) have the same base skill and replace each other as the 3rd unit, you don't need both.

Yeah, Fiammetta can reset one of them every 12 hours. I'll probably make a video on her when we get closer to her release on global.