Plato was unique, not a typical Greek. It is a big mistake to generalize from the example of Plato to the average Greek, who would have considered Plato an eccentric or even mad nut job.

We have trouble being distracted by our luxuries and devices.

We live in an age of extreme ignorance. Most of what you think you know is wrong.

Im going to read the writings of these three philosophers as soon as I can

No diogenes was the badass

​@@mammaboy1Socrates never wrote anything. All of his teachings come to us by way of Plato. So if you read Plato you will also be reading Socrates (assuming you go with the idea that Socrates' teachings perfectly match what Plato describes in his writings)

​​@@HelloBro-qr4heDiogenes was a student of Socrates. His love of Socrates is actually why he didn't like Plato whom he felt was overcomplicating Socrates' teachings

@@wildmen5025to be fair, Plato was founding a new religion.

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Is that what they call Utopia like Greek Underworld where Gods from Greek mythology go when they die? Similar to Valhalla in Norse Mythology?

​@@macmel2160The Gods do not die. That being said, when humans die, there are said to be one of several places they go. The best place is Elysium which is for heroes, initiates of the mysteries, and virtuous souls. The Isles of the Blessed are a location in Elysium for the greatest of souls

It's really just called the Philosopher's Stone. It was only ever called the Sorcerer's Stone in the American versions of the first Harry Potter book because they felt that no American kids would know what the Philosopher's Stone was. That being said, the Philosopher's Stone is pretty cool. It's said to be able to turn lead into gold but what most people don't understand is that this is also supposed to affect a change in the soul of the alchemist. Like the dull lead turning into bright gold, the human soul is uplifted when it unites with the divine. That is the true power of the Philosopher's Stone

I disagree. Aristotle was bad for science. Because of his belief that the sun revolves around the earth, many great scientists who disagreed were put on trial and ultimately executed. The church taught the teachings of Aristotle, the church was more powerful than the king so for centuries science was at a stand still. Thanks to Galileos heroism, we have the scientific method. I hate Aristotle and i hate how much credit he gets for being so arrogant.

​@@MoreOnPleeezHere's my question to you: During which period were those scientists killed? Was it under the reign of the church?

Heraclitus died ten years before Socrates was born

@@wildmen5025 I said studied. Have you ever studied anyone who died before you were born?

​@@zeroworldcraftThat's literally not what your comment says (at the time of this comment). And yes, I have. Every day, in fact. It's why I know so much about these guys.

@@wildmen5025 cool cool. I'll put your comment on a shelf right next to my old scholarship to study philosophy in ancient Greek, on the Greek islands. So, chill a bit. You are correct about my wording. Okay?

​​@@zeroworldcraftAnd I'll put your "scholarship" on the shelf next to all the things I doubt. Prove to me there is a direct link between Heraclitus and Socrates. What sources indicate this? If your "scholarship" (the word you are looking for is "degree") is worth anything then you should be able to answer that.

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@@Madfox4you I do not understand gibberish.

@@b1crusade384 yes you do, that’s what your ancestors in Africa communicated in

My ancestors created language and writing in Africa. ​@@Madfox4you

It's funny that you are praising Diogenes while criticizing Plato when Diogenes was actually a huge fan of Socrates. The big reason why he hated Plato was because he felt he was overcomplicating Socrates' teachings. At the risk of sounding pedantic, I'd like to mention that Aristotle was never Socrates' pupil. He was Plato's pupil. Socrates was long dead by the time Aristotle came on the scene

Can you elaborate further.. I am curious as to why you have such a low opinion of Socrates and Plato

Who would be some examples of philosophers who do not have the “philosopher’s sickness”? What is the “philosopher’s sickness” in your definition?

The Socrates character is one of the most obvious frauds of the past few millennia. Aristotle provided more substance to the world on a Tuesday afternoon than this Socrates goober did ever…regardless of how hard Plato tried.

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@forgottenlorebookshop8645 Athena is a sub Sahara African god, and the greeks honored her by calling the city Athens, where philosophy started to flourish

@@blist14ant She was Akkadian, Mycenaean, Minoan, perhaps Anatolian. But West African? That’s just wildly dubious. Attic, Scythian, but not Sub-Saharan.

Socrates worshipped the Greek Gods. He described an encounter he had with local Nymphs, one of the dialogues begins with him attending a festival in honor of the Goddess Bendis, he heeded the command of Apollo to begin the work of becoming a philosopher, and his last words were a request for a friend of his to sacrifice a rooster to Asklepios on his behalf. In fact, Plato even says that Socrates taught that the goal of philosophy was so you can purify your soul to spend time with the Gods for all eternity rather than being stuck in the cycle of reincarnation

@@wildmen5025 And they Say his las words were adressed to a FRIEND for paying a rooster whom he took from a neighborow. So Xanthipa his wife not being in debt...

​@@viorelpiscanu9425Here's the quote from the Phaedo: "Then he uncovered his face, for he had covered himself up, and said-this was the last thing he uttered-“Crito, I owe the sacrifice of a rooster to Asklepios; will you pay that debt and not neglect to do so?” He's clearly asking that someone do a sacrifice on his behalf. Nothing to do with stealing a chicken. It was common to promise the Gods that you would give Them an offering later in exchange for an answered prayer. Clearly Socrates felt that a prayer of his addressed to Asklepios had been answered and he wanted his friend Crito to do the honors on his behalf since he would now be unable to do so. Socrates worshipped the Gods. End of story.

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Aristotle was Plato's student and Plato was Socrates' student. They all matter

@@wildmen5025 in a way they all matter and in another way Aristotle alone matters. In a way when you consider philosophy with respect to philosophers who are the non-Socratics, the Socratics, i.e. Socrates( who left nothing written), Plato and Aristotle, seem important. Socratics are important as a school. But in an another way when you consider individual philosophers Aristotle seems important. Aristotle is important not as a school but as a individual of a school. The difference is just in the point of view, i.e. which school is important or which philosopher is important.

Diogenes wouldn't have agreed with you