Yeah, the video gives a good idea of what the kits sound like, but the best presentation would be to eliminate all factors except for the kit.

I agree Ben, but even under different conditions each kit has its own voice and I think these are all incredible kits for the money!

Ben Fullerton I was thinking the exact same thing, but I'm just to lazy to type a big paragraph, but you sir hit the nail right on it. For the price range they all sounded really good tho

Dead Right!

I guess it's more about whether the drum set has the potential to sound good, and if yes, how easily can that happen. I doubt these people would go as far as to hire expensive engineers and use complex mic systems just to sell one of their cheapest drum sets.

its true.the musician makes the instrument. i remember when i was about 7yrs old my violin was in the shop and i didn't wanna practice because of the loaner i had,when my teacher asked why i didn't wanna practice , i said because the instrument i had on loan sounded awful. she replied, let me see. she picked it up and proceeded to make it sing beautifully. it was then i learned that a master can make ANY instrument sound beautiful.

Haha yeah, I wonder if he listens to Jojo Mayer......

+xXx_Pokemaster Cyro_xXx how is it? u change anything so far?

+Matt Bellamy a fucking clown!!

+zambagrande yeah, cringeworthy

Maybe that's why Gretsch hired him

agreed!

I have a 3005 and it outshines more expensive kits all the time.

Both great sets.

Yamaha Stage Custom is a great kit. Especially for the price!

Patrik Gustafsson thought the same

My thoughts exactly! Completely distracting. How could make a video of that crap and think anybody is going to want to buy them.

Had great sound though - IMO.

LOL!!!

@@bishlap and sexy appearance too... 👍

haha

I totally agree 100% I was so pissed

He also looks like a dick!

Sticks and stones, sticks and stones!

Adam Kensington he did - but yes playing drum'n'bass isn't useful for a demo.

the guy on the gretsch kit, was an actual fucking lunatic

i thought the same...horrible part for a Kit Sound Video

I totally agree with you!

i wouldn't go THAT far bro if that were the case, studio drummers would have u87's u47's and telefunkins instead of DW's and noble &cooly's. Actually the room the drums are in are more important that the mics. I've recorded amazing sounding drums with only mxl 90's for overheads with atm25 on kick and sm57 on snare and senheiser drum mics on toms using only a Mackie dfx12 for phantom power and channel strip. when people heard they didn't believe me, and it was cause of the great sounding room. not to mention my engineering skills.

Drum quality is for road use and stability.Granted a great DW ,Yamaha or Sonor set sounds good in a studio or on stage but with good drum tuning, tape (or not) and real mics I can make any drum sound great. New drumheads go a long way for that...Years ago bill bruford told me screw what drums you play it's how you play...

mastermindmusics Good Points, room is important..lets not forget the drummer...is he hitting the sweet spots on the drums. etc...

***** this video is deceiving cause each set is recorded in a different room

The instrument and room are the most important things to a good sound.. I disagree with you, there is no way a $300 drum set will ever sound as good as a $3000 dollar drum set providing they are both tuned properly.

+Hivolt Arc Thank You, nice suggestion btw!

LOL and don't forget to add sound of angry parent and or neighbor yelling "quiet!"

+Hivolt Arc I think it's just stock video from each of the manufacturers.

+Hivolt Arc I don't have to worry because I live in the country

I actually use a gretsch catalina maple in a professional capacity and it suits me just fine....in fact, I enjoy it more than some kits I've seen colleagues spend thousands more on...there's a lot of good stuff out there in the $1000 range right now...the more expensive kits are nice, yes...but a solid workhorse kit more than does the trick nowadays...these kits are basically the mexican strats of the drum world...a good player can make them sing and you don't feel like garbage every time you get the slightest scratch

I agree

+Tj Medeiros own one of them. amazing kit

Marcello Granata i own one of them too! i have been more than happy with it!

Tj Medeiros I

Yamaha or Ludwig .. both quality sound, both readily available in standard 5pc for under $1500 USD

Well, I don't even think he was aware he was doing a demo.😂

This was my thought exactly. Irregardless of whether he was aware or not of doing a demo. Someone should have recognized this is a bad demo for peeps to evaluate drums. He hit the toms like twice each. Glad he knows how to play the snare and so into himself and his groove, but this was basically useless as a demo.

He would be right at home with the early 90's grunge drum kit setups, where you only have 1 mounted tom and maybe 1 or 2 floor toms, and 1 crash tops. No, on the other hand, that's probably too much, as all that extra stuff would probably distract him from his bass and snare drumming... Lol

@ LEGO: +1, and the Meth probably didn't help.

He looked like he was ate up with goofy. I was really interested in hearing what the whole kit sounded like. He pissed me off!

blica 1 Durability? What exactly breaks on a drum set? If kept in a temperature controlled environment, the shells of even cheap drum sets will last decades, provided they're made of multiple plies of a hardwood (like virtually all drum sets manufactured today). What in the blue hell are you talking about?

mikper7 What exactly breaks on a drum set ?? What in "blue hell" am i talking about ?? .. Lol ! You're funny.. Well... FYI, not all drums are kept in a humidity controlled, or protected studio environment now, are they ?.. Most young drummers will gig the crap out of these kits making them prone to all sorts of environments, including winters, set-up, tear down, touring, etc..Ever hear of hardware breaking ?.. Yes, i'm well aware that if kept in cases and taken care of , most drums can survive all these types of elements, but i certainly know that isn't the case all of the time..(i also do drum restoration as well, btw.. )This is what i meant by "outlasting" all of these other kits.. Pearl has proven time and time again that they're drums are built to withstand most types of punishment that drummers, environments, and the elements can dish out.. I've used almost every brand of drum kit out there, have gigged and toured for many years, and have seen and done it all first hand..I'm also very aware that there are other drum companies that have a reputation for solid gear..(Tama is another name that comes to mind).. I'm a Ludwig man myself, but in this case, I was just making a comparison with Pearl and all others in this video.. Every drum manufacturer makes gear that is solid, and some not so solid..This is a fact.. My comment was observed regarding this particular video.. That is what in the blue hell i'm talking about.. ;)

Or just save $750 and get a PDP Double Drive, with all Poplar Shells, and it's a 8 Piece Double Bass kit shell pack, so why get the same thing from Tama or Pearl and end up paying for pretty much a very similar kit for $500 more because that is what PDP is about; Amazing drums for an even more amazing price. And if you looked in the description of the PDP kit, it is all Maple Shells, so yeah, it would make just a little bit of sense if Maple or Birch just costed you know, a little bit more from what drum sets are usually made of. And in my opinion, the PDP sounds great, but then again it depends what music you play and how you tune it. So in the end, this comment is completely 100% pointless.

blica 1 Good comment, fellow drummer. What if you don't want a used kit? Someone might not want that, they want to purchase new, no matter how a used kit could be in great condition and all. I think these kits are decent. look decent defo... It is what it is.

blica 1 You sound like a real smart guy you should really yourself. No thats the problem you like to hear self knock other peoples sh!t.

i was about to say the same thing!! very true my friend =]

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***** Yes, of course. But there is a huge improvement between tuned and not tuned.

tama silverstar was eq'ed out of existence

Thanks, I think there's a bit of magic involved!

+Simone Messaggi I liked the Tama Silverstar it sounded so nice!!

WereFromUrFace you can make anything good just watch rdavidr

WereFromUrFace and the heads

I'm not sure they were played in the same room? Tuning and mic,s are different. It's kinda hard to judge for sure under all the different circumstances.

+Serguiy Kondrashov with ears?

+Simone Messaggi I believe he is meaning that these drums have been mic'ed and equalized... there for the natural sounds of these drums are not being shown as they should be.

+Whitefox2298 There is no way that the tama kit sounds THAT good! It's either triggered or mixed

+Serguiy Kondrashov My Silverstars sound awesome with Vintage Clear Emp's on top and clear Amb. on bottom. Therefore, they sound fantastic mic'ed. My only mark against them is that the wrap and tom mount are just ok. But the price point is what it is. I would say the snare drum is the weak link of the SS kit. The drums themselves tune easy and sound awesome.

I agree, you can mic a $600 drum kit, and after tuning, mixing and compressing, it will sound like a $3000 kit, I knew a guy who owned a recording studio, he did this all the time

Thank You bruns for the kind words! s.

charldaughter recommendations?

Trevor get Dream Bliss cymbals. Pretty inexpensive and the best playing and sounding cymbals ever

Exactly! Point taken, works every time Frankenstein!

I'd get the grestch catalica birch. A zildjian a custom symbol pack. My favorite heads and sticks, and call it a day. I don't if that would be over budget, but it would work for me.

Grab yourself a Tama superstar maple or silverstar birch kit. They are both right around $800 new for the shells. Get used midgrade hardware such as cymbal stands and snare stand. Then spend money on high quality cymbals of your choice. Me personally i like Zildjian A customs and some K dark thin crashes. Finally make sure to get a quality pedal or double if u choose. Even if you buy it used thats fine. A high end iron cobra powerglide will last you at least 10 years so the $400 is worth it. And get a snare for the genera of music you play if the kit doesnt include one!

Yes agreed !!!

jonathan james It sounds like that because of the tuning and the mix if all the drumkits were tuned and mixed the same it would sound quite different

i agree

They have a Tama Silverstar set up in the studio on my music high school and I have spent many hours on it and it's an awesome kit! Prob one of the best in the price range, I'm thinking of buying a kit like it or a Superstar classic and put a set of Evans G2's on em

i have the Superstar classic blue burst not a pro Level kit but i take it on every gig People in the audience dont cear about the price tag on the drums and With good drum heads and decent cymbals and alot of practicing yoy wil SOUND LIKE A PRO

Yea it's super warm

Hi Alex, I'm glad to hear that, choosing a kit is hard at first, I suggest you check out as many live kits as possible. KZfaq videos are OK but seeing it first hand is way better! S.

I agree with you I have one myself and I love the sound of it! Pearl does make great sounding drums!

it is waaay better than silverstar, this dude just didnt see the pricetag on superstar

They sound great, and I managed to get them used, in FABULOUS condition, under a grand, let alone 1500 dollars haha

I have 2 Tama superstar Kits. World not sell Them ever

Yup I just bought the pdp maple concept red to black fade, suspension mount and maple shells but the factory heads are Evans and unfortunately I have to play a rehearsal with stock heads once, they aren't bad, it's going to be triggered

True but there's issues with the old one i have, toms lose everything due to the arm brackets going inside the drums poplar 16x16 sounds like shit ,so i had to doctor everything with o rings and moon gels good skins and certain skin will make a difference but doesn't always help.

I agree. Also how frequently you change both the bottom and top heads is also important. Surprisingly, many of the brand heads that came with the kits in these videos sound pretty decent. I got a Ludwig CS combo for my first set which had horrible horrible brand heads. Pretty good set, but some damn horrible factory heads.

Year and a half and you're 100% correct haha

"In your opinion heads make the set!" LMAO who are you Peggy Hill? This has been known since humans in Pangea stretched some animal's skin on hollowed out wood and thought " Hey, this skin is much better sounding and last longer than what I was using. Not only that but I can change the pitch without changing the skin by stretching it, or loosing it". I agree people are less focused on heads, but I've put heads on a Ludwig set from the 70's and it's almost the opposite so long as their tuned to the shells. Some cheaper kits now you can save your cash for the cymbals/stands/heads/equipment. 300 bucks for a five piece PDP full plug and play birch wood set including hi-hat, crash hybrid plus stands and all the pedals! Sounds like a deal to me just to have at another house. Electronic drums are addictive and too rich for me to continue forking out cash on. Bruford's set from "'89 ABWH An Evening of Yes Music" was my muse and those old Simmons SDX's were decades ahead of their time. I did what Danney Carrey did when he revised he's set during "Anema" and added a few at first, then blew money I should have spent on a car. Seems a few people have this passion with hexagon electric drums and replicating Bruford's sets form ABWH, Yes and DreamWorks.

its the room, where it was recorded sounds terrible.

I have an 8 pc Meridian Maple. It sounds nothing like that in person. Very lively, full and punchy. Bass drum packs a wallop and the hardware is solid. I hit very hard and have never had a problem with hardware wobbles.

I suspect the riser the kit is on is the source of all the hardware movement.

This video didn't do the Mapex any justice at all. I've got the Mapex Meridian Birch in a 6 piece configuration and the kick drum is absolutely killer, really beefy with one heck of a punch.

mapex bass drums just sound bad. i hated mine and every other mapex ive tried ive never been happy with the kick. my Pro Ms started to fall apart after a couple tours too

I think they're "list" prices.

David Spidel Yes these are list prices, including hardware

vision birch really isn't $500 coz they're £600 rrp in the uk currency and it's like $1.6 to £1

+Randy Woolum agree

+Randy Woolum to each their own. I thought the PDP tom sounds were the best...

strongly agree!

***** yeah & despite me saying that he was actually a good player lol

Lol dude you took the words right outta my mouth.. he was like jo jo without the talent. . Haha.. hipster dbag

You never know, he might just be being himself completely and coincidently he sounds like Jojo, but people DO have idols, if the guy wants to be like him, maybe he should. Everyone has an idol they'd wish to be like, so just lay off a little yeah? No intention to be a dick.

djoc417 I found him funny, and he looked like he was enjoying himself.

Don't you mean "corn beefy"? We need more New fros in drumming.

Hola robertaco98! Sure it's worhtless to own a good drumkit if he ain't gonna tune it properly... tuning drums isn't that hard but it takes some practice, there are countless drum tuning videos on youtube like this: Tuning Your Toms - Free Drum Lessons And then there's some interesting devices that make tuning even easier like the tunebot, check it out! www.amazon.com/Overtone-Labs-TB001-Tune-Bot/dp/B0088DXS14/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=simmessacom-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=ZCRIBPFY62GIC42V&creativeASIN=B0088DXS14 And remember, the drum sound has a lot to do with the player as well ;) Hope I provided you with some useful informations! Hasta pronto! S.

robertaco98 The problem could be that their isn't a pillow along the bottom of the bass drum, but the drummer at the beginning could have just been using triggers

Brendan Cooke he wasn't triggered. I have a 7 piece silverstar double bass and the kicks do sound like that when tuned properly. It only cost me $999 and it is one if the best sounding kits on the market only beat by its big brother Tama starclassic b/b

Chimichanga Guy Oh okay cool just wasn't sure

Cant comment on your drummer's tuning but a 2k kit tuned and hit well is going to sound better than the this Tama, period. That Tama kit was mic'd with Audix D 12 mics which SIGNIFICANTLY alter and hype the sound of a drum. Its also probable that while the shells were not technically triggered they were probably treated with additioanl compression in a DAW. doubt they used a real-to-real analog machine to capture that audio! So what you heard on the Tama kit is not what the kit sounds like. Hope that helps give you some peace and perspective regarding your drummer.

so true

701321 They're just showcasing the drums.

No. 4 - Alex Vesper, if you Google him, you find plenty of videos where you can see he's a pretty rad drummer also with bands

142314 it's so you can hear all the parts of the drums.

PDP sounds the most interesting drum, for the sound and for the price, its the cheapest and it sounds pretty well.

Al R And you should hear it with good heads on it. Those PDP heads aren't great at all, especially for 16" floor toms. Throw some Pinstripes or EC2s on it and it's a dream.

Al R I have a cheap PDP drum kit, I've tried a lot of expensive drum kits, but none sounds as good at my PDP.

Love my PDP as well PDP Concept Maple 7 piece

Hæmoride jørgen Thank you for the advice I'll take it in consideration ! peace to you and keep enjoying drummin !!!!!!!!

Ben Bleyendaal Tama kit has been equiped with microphones, so any tipe of "production", at least overall volumes correction is presumable. PDP hadn't, sound of this kit was recorded by camera mic. This is a huge different and an advantage for Tama drums..

Nevermind I read the description, what brand symbols are they though? They sound good.

I bought the all birch concord new in 2009. Just sold it a couple of weeks ago. It was really a great kit.

Thank You Phil! S.