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The 5 Phases of Corporate IP Ownership

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David Stewart

David Stewart

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@ezetram774
@ezetram774 6 жыл бұрын
Activision in a nutshell smh
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 6 жыл бұрын
ezetram and ea.
@coole59
@coole59 6 жыл бұрын
Crash and Spyro are now in the nostalgic remake phase where the current IP owners pretend the decade of crap that was released never happened and once again start mass producing sequels.
@GigaTrope
@GigaTrope 6 жыл бұрын
It's almost impossible to really stay interested in comics. There are no endings, the story drags out until it gets boring, then it is abruptly stopped without an ending.
@ZaKRo-bx7lp
@ZaKRo-bx7lp 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much an ending in comics is the end of a head writer's tenure.
@matthewlee8667
@matthewlee8667 6 жыл бұрын
RIP Steve Ditko
@Jared_Wignall
@Jared_Wignall 6 жыл бұрын
Star Wars is a very good example of this. When George Lucas had ownership of the films, the series was expanded upon and offered new things with each new film he had a hand in making. When you have a corporation like Disney take over the ownership, you get the films looking very nostalgic and your expectations subverted, and not in a good way. Disney is killing Star Wars, where as George Lucas was able to bring it new life with each film he made. Regardless of how one felt about the prequels, they at least offered new things with the story even with the inclusion of old settings and old characters that had to be in the films for the.
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree.
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Say what you want about the prequel and even the Force Akakens, they still felt like Star Wars. Those movies meant something. Then Last Jedi ruined everything which not only retroactively made the Force Awakens weaker but also threatened the meaning of the original 6 films. This is a huge deal becuase Star Wars, perhaps more than any other mivie franchise in history, was heavily dependent on its own history, mythos, and overarching continuity.
@noneyabusiness5455
@noneyabusiness5455 6 жыл бұрын
This is what makes me excited about the recent trend of comic professionals, like Mitch Breitweiser, self publishing with indiegogo. They can actual do something new that they and the fans can be passionate about again.
@matthewpahnke2613
@matthewpahnke2613 6 жыл бұрын
Except I can't justify $25 for a 48 or 60 page book.... I'm happy he's been funded and others have been too. Hopefully their model can sustain itself.
@idiotproofdalek
@idiotproofdalek 6 жыл бұрын
The actual title of this video should have been ‘The Perpetual Milking’ accompanied by the Star Wars boob alien in the thumbnail.
@skidooshlayman12
@skidooshlayman12 6 жыл бұрын
Ghostbusters 2016 - Went from Phase 5 right back to Phase 4.
@SeagullsGather
@SeagullsGather 6 жыл бұрын
and deservedly so.
@suflanker45
@suflanker45 6 жыл бұрын
Star Wars is an extreme case of corporate IP ownership in that they underestimated the fans. They thought they could do it real cheap. Rehash the OT and license the shit out of all kinds of cheaply made overpriced merch and it blew up in their face.
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 6 жыл бұрын
I would point out (cautiously) that they didn't UNDERestimate so much as MISSED their guess about the fandom with Star Wars. They knew very well how big and formidable the SW fandom really was... They knew very well that it had grown since the first episode release in the 70's... AND it had just continued to grow EVEN AFTER the original trilogy was done. There were no pretenses about it, with "The Return of the Jedi"... that project was over, and other than a steadily growing fandom of cos-players and markets and conventions gathering steam across the country (world?) Lucas didn't exactly elaborate any great intention for new movies... for TWENTY (20) years! With the prequels, everything changed almost overnight... There were re-releases of the original movies to theaters first... with some "touching up" (?) AND then the prequels came out. A whole new generation of fans was added "to the fold"... and Disney saw magic. Disney made the assumption that the enormity of fanbase Lucas had gathered, they could "get away with anything"... Lucas seemed to get away with plenty of license and to spare over the re-releases and prequels, even with the "Han shot first" controversy... (lolz). SO Disney just assumed the fans would "lay down and take it" when they decided to run amok with whatever the hell they wanted, and bought LucasArts out, hoping the momentum would just keep going... Only that didn't work... It didn't work because it was ALWAYS Lucas' heart that sold the Star Wars product... He probably had some really dark and even depraved ideals about sequels or whatever was coming next (if he'd stuck it out to see it all through)... BUT he would've done it well enough that the fans would've likely eaten it up. He respected the original craft he'd built, and while some minor points in the prequels seemed a bit "hammered in there", he was careful enough to avoid eviscerating the mythos... Disney's leadership (or lack thereof) just didn't care. AND what they missed about the Star Wars fandom was that these were not ordinary "just collect everything in sight" fan types... They were OLD SCHOOL fans who would wait out five or ten YEARS for the next movie, because it was always good enough to justify the wait... That's not a fandom you want to alienate. It's not the kind of fandom you want to piss off, piss on (for the matter) or dismiss as "mere peasantry"... AND this miscalculation cost them... Leaving the leadership (or lack thereof) to berate, attack, dehumanize, and defame fans over the lackluster reception of poor product is only worse. The oldest rule in business (any business btw) is "The customer is ALWAYS right." Any of these corporate's who forget that, regardless of their reasons, will nose their precious franchise into the ground... Splat. ;o)
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
I think The Last Jedi is an odd case of a franchise entry created by studio mismanagement and a creator in over his head. Rogue One and Solo were also almost disasters.
@MichaelPatrickPorkins
@MichaelPatrickPorkins 6 жыл бұрын
At least Rian Johnson had the courtesy to illustrate "the milking phase" in TLJ...
@gamingguru2k6
@gamingguru2k6 6 жыл бұрын
I wish corporations would allow things to enter the public domain.
@guy8528
@guy8528 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think that will ever happen willingly. They'll keep lobbying to change the law until they can just hang onto the rights for things forever. Literally until the end of time. :(
@thejakyl1369
@thejakyl1369 6 жыл бұрын
Look at Disney. They are the ones that made this normative. The right for Mickey Mouse lapsed into public domain law, then the company sued for it. If a corporation owns it, and can make money off This is why we keep getting shit movies
@SamKressin
@SamKressin 6 жыл бұрын
You can thank Disney and Mickey Mouse for completely killing the public Domain its very unfortunate and the laws need to change or we will have a future where it everything is under corporate control
@dissonantvibe8585
@dissonantvibe8585 6 жыл бұрын
What does the Constitution have to do with copyright law?
@SamKressin
@SamKressin 6 жыл бұрын
Dissonant Vibe nothing other than Freedom of Speech which allows Satire and commentary on copyrighted wrks
@NotOrdinaryInGames
@NotOrdinaryInGames 6 жыл бұрын
There are people in this world who still don't know the difference between a sequel and a reboot.
@keriford54
@keriford54 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, fans seem to buy into the corporate speak, they're very ready to talk about movies, books etc as a "franchise" but the enjoyment is through its art. Maybe some people prefer the milking phase as they've grown to like something and basically want more of the same.
@SeagullsGather
@SeagullsGather 6 жыл бұрын
i absolutely hate when people talk about franchises in art. it makes my skin crawl. didn't star wars used to be a saga?
@gallendugall8913
@gallendugall8913 6 жыл бұрын
Reboot? Call it the "Frankenstein" phase - that's got marketing zing to it!
@COctagons
@COctagons 6 жыл бұрын
One of the Warner Brothers (original founders of the company of the same name), Jack Warner, put it best: "I don't want it good, I want it Tuesday." (Referring to what was then an up-and-coming mass-production film.)
@sofaking1611
@sofaking1611 6 жыл бұрын
I will gladly pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today. -anonymous
@intoxovision3121
@intoxovision3121 6 жыл бұрын
Highlander shot itself in the explosion stage. One of the most mishandled franchises of all time.
@intoxovision3121
@intoxovision3121 6 жыл бұрын
And yes, I'm aware it probably shouldn't have been a franchise to begin with.
@cptace
@cptace 6 жыл бұрын
A very timely video indeed. Based on this analysis I have little hope for the future of my favorite IPs.
@tuppybrill4915
@tuppybrill4915 6 жыл бұрын
Past stars making cameo appearances to endorse the reboot, like Peter Cushing in Rogue One ... oh, wait ...
@14bis42
@14bis42 6 жыл бұрын
Its amazing that you posted this analysis months before the news about Disney slowing down Star Wars on the exact moment you predicted , Its amazing , and scary ,
@SamKressin
@SamKressin 6 жыл бұрын
I recently read George Lucas’s Biography in the end it says Lucas sold Star Wars b cuz he plans on donating his fortune to charities like Warren Buffet what he should have done was donate Star Wars to the public domain
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
He should have leased it out to whoever had the best idea instead of selling it.
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
I think Lucas got old and tired. He must have put a lot of work into the Clone Wars.
@SamKressin
@SamKressin 6 жыл бұрын
Mark J In his Biography it said he considered hiring a director ect but in the past when he had brought in other people to direct produce ect he wouldn’t leave it alone he’d still show up on set every day and tinker with everything but I wish he would have done something like that I also think he undervalued his company by a lot it also said in the bio that Bob Igar promised him on a handshake only that he’d be involved as a consultant with the new movies and of course he was not it’s unfortunate b cuz Lucas wrked so hard to build his own studio ect so that he could be 100% the independent of the Hollywood studio system even buying all the rights to Star Wars a new hope from Fox when he negotiated distribution of phantom menace with them only to go and sell it all to the biggest studio / IP farm in the whole of Hollywood
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
+Sam Kressin I definitely agree. It's bizarre that he didn't go for a bidding war. I assume he thought the other studios made trash, and he has some integrity, but he seems naive in an interview of him and Kennedy. This is the guy who created Sidious and the Empire. I guess it's because Kennedy is a woman. He had a much better relationship with his mom than his dad, though his ex wife took a lot of his early money. What if Universal had gotten Star Wars? He should have temporarily leased out the movie rights to whatever studio had the best idea. This is what Lucasfilm did with comics. Who cares if the movie distribution rights are all over the place if there are quality movies. He and his family maybe could have made more money over time. I suppose he saved some people some jobs at Lucasfilm but whatever.
@SamKressin
@SamKressin 6 жыл бұрын
I agree leasing out the movie rights would have made way more sense than outright selling it off.
@foberdud7576
@foberdud7576 6 жыл бұрын
Great insight David; I feel like I understood that cycle on some subconscious level but you brought it up to a conscious level with your explanation 🙂.
@robertfullchim923
@robertfullchim923 6 жыл бұрын
I watched a 3 minute ad because I enjoy your work that much.
@mikestanmore2614
@mikestanmore2614 6 жыл бұрын
A good analysis, Dave. It's made me wonder if Star Wars will die before it's milked any further.
@thejakyl1369
@thejakyl1369 6 жыл бұрын
Phase six, we get the Han Solo stand alone movies and berated by creators for not liking it >.>
@NeoSef
@NeoSef 6 жыл бұрын
The screenshot from Highlander broke my heart.
@YootubeUK
@YootubeUK 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I hope all creatives watch this before selling the control of their Art to Corporations. Keep the great vids coming. :)
@Sam-ip6co
@Sam-ip6co 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with what you said about comics: being stuck in the milking faze. In my opinion this is because the medium never got a chance to mature, this is due to the comic book code in the 50's. When the code banned a lot of the horror in comic we were left with nothing but pulp fiction super hero storys for dacades. And latter when horror came back in it was shown through the lense of hero storys. Comics should have a diversity of genre just like Manga. When a company has investments in multiple genre of the same medium you have less extreme milking, but instead DC and Marvel are completely reliant on there extended univers. In other words when super heros are down the industry is down.
@yorick4179
@yorick4179 6 жыл бұрын
SammyRi _ As a long time comics reader, I’ve seen my interest moves towards Image comics exactly because of that.
@filmandpage1138
@filmandpage1138 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great analysis, of how IP's rise and fall. Star Wars seems to be in the decline not because star wars is out of steam. It's just because of bad management of that particular IP.
@LuderSatan1
@LuderSatan1 6 жыл бұрын
Star Wars is the clearly a franchise that is dying. And for me it is clear that is because both that Disney wanted to make money, and because of Hollywood politics (far left, SJW, or whatever you called it). The Force Awakens is the worst star wars movie, IMO (I hate it much more than The Last Jedi or Phantom Menace). TWA was so cynically put together. As if they had algorithms, that told the producers that these and these nostalgia-things should be put into the movie, with a re-trail of an older story, along with other "visual-elements", that always turns a profit. It was a spread-sheet kind of movie, I felt. It was soul-less. The Last Jedi and Phantom Menace was not good movies at all, but I felt, at least, that the director had a vision... A poor vision, but a vision none the less. I felt that the last jedi and phantom menace was made by humans, and not robots (as I felt when I saw the force awakens)
@seandetente1817
@seandetente1817 6 жыл бұрын
Honest question, and I realize it’s a mountain of a question, but what is with all the hate for TPM? The younger Anakin could’ve choked on a dick, but for me that was more the actor playing him than the character. Well, Jar Jar, too, I’ll concede that one, as well.
@Frank-Discussion
@Frank-Discussion 6 жыл бұрын
TLJ was just as bad. There was vision alright... but filled with hate for the OT and the fan base... The movie exists merely to take up time, rug-pull and troll the very audience viewing the garbage.
@SPTX.
@SPTX. 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure TFA is worse than TLJ. Yeah TFA feels automated and is retarded at places, but TLJ is retarded from start to finish, hell, it doubles down on the stupid points inherited from TFA.
@ETBrooD
@ETBrooD 6 жыл бұрын
Luluko He's not putting TPM in the same bag as TLJ. He's comparing them and showing the similarities and differences, of which there are mostly differences, with the exception of overall quality.
@socialjihad5724
@socialjihad5724 6 жыл бұрын
Soren Sorensen I agree. Watching TLJ actually made me hate TFA more. I find it somewhat irksome at the claims that TFA was a good setup. It completely retread the same story of ANH. There were no hints of Snoke being anything more than the Emperor 2.0. Rey faced no adversity and defeats the villain in the first act. Finn is selfish and inconsistent and an absolute waste of a character who's backstory of a stormtrooper never manifests itself in a meaningful way. The rules of hyperspace and the force were already broken. If the knights of Ren were going to play a role in this trilogy, they needed to be in the first film. Any explanation for why Luke hid and left a map anyways was going to be weak. OT characters were already receiving character assassination. The efforts of the heroes of the OT were made worthless. The state of the Galaxy and who the new sides were ambiguous and never explained...I'm probably still missing stuff, and TLJ was still an awful movie, but Disney Star Wars was garbage right out of the gate.
@robinthrush9672
@robinthrush9672 6 жыл бұрын
If you ask Rian Johnson, TLJ was all about soul and his vision. It's just that his soul is black and twisted and he gets off on pissing off at least half the viewers of his work.
@Kissamiess
@Kissamiess 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting breakdown. Goes well with Vee's "The phases of a GeekerGate" video, I think. Not sure these are universal laws, but there certainly is a tendency. Also, I greatly enjoyed Star Wars' 90s/00s "milking phase".
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
Also it seems as if story writing talent is scarce like pop music writing talent, and good writers are not interested in working on franchises, and when they do, they don't put in their best work. Also most producers don't know enough about story telling or are just there for a paycheck. There's also the idiosyncrasies of the fandom, the punditocracy, and corporations.
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe the best way to keep a franchise vital is to constantly reboot it like they do in Japan. In the U.S., the best results seem to come from creators reinterpreting franchises from a beginning. Also, if a reboot sucks, you just have to wait for the next one and not give up on a franchise completely.
@simplythebest2k
@simplythebest2k 6 жыл бұрын
You are wrong that good talent doesn't want to work in franchises. The thing is now there is a political monopoly where people get hire based on politics and not talent. Right now artist are not in charge of Hollywood as it was before. That is considering progressives have always been in charge of hollywood but there is a difference between dreamers and idealist. Artist of today are not dreamers or innovators hopefully it'll pass.
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
+Simply the Best When you look at when a creator follows another creator in a film series there seems to usually be a drop off in quality. It's not their creation, so even if they like the money and series and want to be successful, ultimately they are working in something that is not their own which is hard to get around psychologically. But if a creator is allowed to recreate, reboot, or nearly reboot a franchise, the results seem to usually be much better. Rebooting also opens up storytelling possibilities. It's the norm in Japan. I wish it was here. It doesn't seem like the talent exists to do this anyway, though Hollywood's poor output could be because of constant studio meddling. I suspect that their is a lack of talent now like with music. Reading novels for pleasure is not popular anymore, and the newer generation of creators has been raised on trash TV and video game cut scenes. Most of them start out on TV, which is how we get bland soulless junk like the current MCU movies. The old cultural memory is now lost. Beat sheets and screen writing books can't replace it. I think Hollywood needs stronger producers who understand storytelling or a better creative system. I think the MCU and Feige have become hugely overrated in the years following phase one, but the MCU batting average is decent and the movies appeal to many people. Though much of the reason why the MCU has been successful is because of the high quality of phase one which began before Disney bought Marvel Studios, and I would be very suspicious of any "big man" explanation for anything. A better model might be Pixar's where all the creators work together.
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
+Simply the Best It's called Pixar's brain trust. If something like that had existed at Lucasfilm (that wasn't a bunch of no names like in the Lucasfilm story group), maybe many of Rian Johnson's idiotic decisions wouldn't have happened. Johnson claims he made a 250 million dollar personal movie in a massive and beloved franchise that has become the biggest modern cultural myth of America and beyond.
@simplythebest2k
@simplythebest2k 6 жыл бұрын
That's not necessarily true look at the star trek series, TNG was an improvement of the original and deep space nine was an improvement from TNG. voyager wasn't necessarily a decline either story wise it was good and hold to the last two, just the production was not. So that a very good example that is not because it's not their creation but rather money. Reboots are not better if the creator doesn't follow the source material. Not following the source material always results in decline of the audience because the audience doesn't like change. If it embraces change is due to visuals and a long break. studio meddling does result in poor quality but the studios meddle based on statistics so ultimately I think that's not something the audience has realized till now with starwars. Which is making it acknowledge and starting to reverse the damage idealist have been putting. As for your MCU thing honesty, it's success is due to the fact that the MCU did not start alienating their audience with poor customer treatment.
@DoubleJumpPunch
@DoubleJumpPunch 6 жыл бұрын
IP laws should more appropriately be called "state-enforced intellectual monopoly". I think it's an inherently flawed concept with many negative unintended consequences (saying this as a programmer). This cycle is one of them. Intellectual monopolies give mega-corps like Disney orders of magnitude more financial benefit than, say, whatever public funding PBS gets; and it doesn't really help independent creators or the public in general. It forces consumers to put up with crap like this, and gives corps the means and power to engage in crazy social engineering experiments. There are plenty of non-state mechanisms for ensuring artists get rewarded for their creations and work. Without these monopolies, we might not have the fancy big budget lightshows that we have today, but we'd probably have much better stories.
@drhumupower8570
@drhumupower8570 6 жыл бұрын
Great analysis - this makes perfect sense to me and it is spot on for many franchises that I've enjoyed over the years.
@jellyfrosh9102
@jellyfrosh9102 2 жыл бұрын
Stage 1: Vanilla WoW Stage 2: The Burning Crusade Stage 3: Wrath of the Lich King Stage 4: Cataclysm-WoD Stage 5: Classic WoW/Legion
@YogGroove
@YogGroove 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. If only, I'd oriented this way a long time ago. I was in denial about Star Wars. I thought it was actually employing artists who would have something to say. Man, did I get my fanboy nuts crushed.
@DrLynch2009
@DrLynch2009 6 жыл бұрын
11:34 And that why the New 52 only lasted 5 years compared to the 25 years the Post-Crisis DC endured.
@TheAutistWhisperer
@TheAutistWhisperer 6 жыл бұрын
Looking at that thumbnail makes me bilious.
@ranakin9000
@ranakin9000 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video.
@deaDParrot88
@deaDParrot88 2 жыл бұрын
excellent video
@ToriRocksAmos
@ToriRocksAmos 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video
@danielmumby1525
@danielmumby1525 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool, David -and “right where I live”. Find me on LinkedIn for a conversation
@SeagullsGather
@SeagullsGather 6 жыл бұрын
in corporate accounts you factor in the declining value of your assets (depreciation). Do you think that owners of IP assets expect/accept that the decline phase is inevitable and that their accounts reflect this? it seems to me that the decline in star wars box office numbers (even pre-solo) took analysts by surprise yet declining returns has been the rule rather than the exception for a very long time.
@vizuz
@vizuz 6 жыл бұрын
Seagulls Gather Disney did not invest 4 billion dollars in a declining IP. Clearly they saw a lot of untapped potential in SW but they are just not handling the IP well enough to actually make use of that potential.
@SeagullsGather
@SeagullsGather 6 жыл бұрын
declining returns in ongoing sequels/series is pretty much a given, there are very few exceptions (probably only marvel). they may have felt star wars would buck the trend, but there is no evidence to suggest that would happen and some to the contrary: star wars out performed empire and jedi and the phantom menace did the same with episodes 2 & 3. so either they felt they could succeed where others didn't or they thought they had a strategy to mitigate the decline. at the moment it doesn't look like they're succeeding on either count.
@WilsonLee123
@WilsonLee123 6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, man. I'm glad I found your channel. I've also been thinking about this subject and it seems as though it is an inevitable result (or consequence) of a capitalistic economic system. To me, it seems like it's, simply, entropy of a society's "culture". How long can reboots sustain us? Watch the latest Star Wars film. Just death 😂
@CharlesOwens04
@CharlesOwens04 6 жыл бұрын
You think too highly of artists. Many times, when an artist's work becomes popular, they get conceded, causing them to feel like they deserve the fans. Their vision is glorious, and you're wrong if you want to criticize it. The artist isn't the good guy and the corporation the bad guy. They play their roles make mistakes equally.
@ZaKRo-bx7lp
@ZaKRo-bx7lp 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of artists are very arrogant, they won't accept a corparation's impact on their work's success through marketing. However, they are logically the maker of the franchise and should come above the marketing department and the corporation. The story comes before the franchise. IMO The writer should die with their creation and copyright or keep its private ownership, like Schulz and the peanuts comic strip. If they wish to sell their IP that's their problem.
@randomusernameCallin
@randomusernameCallin 6 жыл бұрын
I would find hard to say that Star Wars followed this until Disney got it. Sure it had a cycle but there were always good will there for it as a whole.
@georgebarrett2132
@georgebarrett2132 6 жыл бұрын
Very appropriate opening example there Dave.. Ditko was on the earliest forward thinking team of creators fighting for fair creator IP rights and control, along with with so many that Wallace Wood attempted to unify with his WitzEnd publication mid/late '60's.. Wallace must've had it toughest expiring in, what, his late 30s (edit, mid 50s, checked, sorry) from a ruptured something?.. GoodGod, the stress.. Ditko made it to near 91 (wish he'd've seen 100+ like Douglas and DeHaviland and some others (the old monk in "Shangrila")). Before that, Chaplin and a few other likeminds initiated United Artists with the same goal in mind within the Motion Picture industry.. Christ, I wonder if we peons can even begin to fathom the level of difficulty encountered by artist attempting to forge a better way when fighting the status quo, the battle of numbers, the few against the system. Attempting to clarify my thought, I would lend the timeless adage that any new invention WILL be inspected by governments to see if, and what type of, a weapon could be fabricated from it.
@LordMalice6d9
@LordMalice6d9 6 жыл бұрын
Thats what happened to Nikola Tesla and his work. Much of it was ceased by the Government.
@georgebarrett2132
@georgebarrett2132 6 жыл бұрын
Precisely LordMalice6d9.. I'd mentioned in another of David's vids how life in the military is basically civilian life cut and dried.. ei, if Thomas had listened to and taken care of him instead of screwing him, as did a few others a bit later, Edison Electric would have emmerged at the forefront as winner of the War Of The Currents, having initial sole rights to the Tesla AC motor patents, and Alva wouldn't have been forced out of his own company, becoming plain GE, instead of EGE.. Most usually do good things until the knife hit's the bone, as in good friends Sarnoff and Armstrong, after he became head-honcho at RCA but couldn't legally swindle Farnsworth over TV
@Crash103179
@Crash103179 6 жыл бұрын
So, when Luke drinks the green milk from that sea cow, is this Rian Johnson saying that TLJ is here to milk the franchise (or the customers, if you will)?
@glitchygear9453
@glitchygear9453 6 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head man.
@Lanterns_light
@Lanterns_light 6 жыл бұрын
Alien Resurrection was abhorrent. Indeed marked the ‘death’ of the franchise and made Alien 3 look like a reasonable entry in comparison.
@TheDen-ec9xe
@TheDen-ec9xe 6 жыл бұрын
Prometheus, on the other hand, was a lukewarm attempt at rebooting it, while Alien Covenant definitely annihilated the Alien series for good.
@mattboggs6304
@mattboggs6304 6 жыл бұрын
That Thundercats crap is the worst thing I have ever seen. It looks like a chubby SJW's DeviantArt drawing depicting "itself" as Lion-O.
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
It's the product of lazy cultural liberalism.
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
Of the affluent.
@sanityone649
@sanityone649 6 жыл бұрын
Nice assessment. Thanks. Here's a new topic that I'd like to hear more on. Create Space vs KDP POD...what's happening...viable platform...going away? Not much good information out there right now on the transition, and what I've been reading guessing, or speculative, or is too old to be informative. What's your take? I personally know of several writers that have used Create Space's paperback publishing/distribution/editorial services...opting to pay around $1300.00 for book editing, formatting, and cover design, etc. Will KDP eventually offer these or similar services? Looks like, for all practical purposes, Create Space is going away. I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say.
@gungan5822
@gungan5822 6 жыл бұрын
This thing his right in the feels. I think Canada still goes by the creator life + 50 years rule for public domain, and hopefully we will get stuff the usa doesn't.
@VaughnJogVlog
@VaughnJogVlog 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been pronouncing Ditko wrong my whole life!
@Stratelier
@Stratelier 4 жыл бұрын
This is not unique to corporate ownership, the five phases of KZfaq popularity are exactly the same: (concept -> viral popularity -> chasing trends -> meltdown -> reinvention).
@nintendsoad
@nintendsoad 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I would love to hear your thoughts on the recent reboot of Jumanji. In my opinion it is a reboot done the right way and it felt like it was created by people who understood and genuinely cared for the original film. If you watch it and do not care for it I would still enjoy a video about the reboots that get it right and what separates them from the crap we typically get when a studio is just trying to cash in on nostalgia
@SPTX.
@SPTX. 6 жыл бұрын
"it felt like it was created by people who understood and genuinely cared for the original film." If they had they wouldn't have discarded the basic rules set by the precedent movie, nor would they had changed it to a video game because "get with duh times" (people still play board games). It didn't hate this movie, but it's about as jumanji as any of its ripoffs.
@nintendsoad
@nintendsoad 6 жыл бұрын
SPTX The update from board game to video game made sense to me.
@SPTX.
@SPTX. 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't say it didn't, I said they were slick to follow the safest trends.
@Clockwork0nions
@Clockwork0nions 6 жыл бұрын
I liked Star Trek Enterprise.......
@petman515
@petman515 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Scrutable funny part of that is that the first 2 seasons its more or less the same as every other startrek before it.
@averagejoe112
@averagejoe112 6 жыл бұрын
The submarine vet in me loved the ship and crew. The elevator in the engineering bay is the only real ship issue I had.
@seandetente1817
@seandetente1817 6 жыл бұрын
About long-running seasons, personally, I thought the 26 episode seasons were too much for any Star Trek. Usually, my interest would start slumping around eps 15-19.
@SeagullsGather
@SeagullsGather 6 жыл бұрын
so did I, it was perhaps just a little bit too samey at the start and never recovered its audience.
@robinthrush9672
@robinthrush9672 6 жыл бұрын
I rather enjoyed seasons 1 and 2, but I'd only seen Next Gen the whole way through and a few episodes of TOS, so I didn't have fatigue.
@porchtime504
@porchtime504 6 жыл бұрын
I dunno how to express this. Maybe you’ve already thought about it. Why do the stories seem to venture into simultaneously not being new at all AND extreme convolution? It seems contradictory to say that but I feel it’s true. Star Wars, Jurrassic Park, x men, hell any of the stories. At some point you realize Jurassic Park is just dinos attack. Yet, now there’s all this cloning military interest and you lose track of who is who. But we all know it’s just Dinos attack? I feel that same thing in the other films. But the question is, why don’t they just go with dinos attack again, and cut out all the convolution. The newer alien movies and terminator movies really go there too. The stories are so convoluted and they really are just alien attack and robot attacks. The convoluted stories to me seem riskier than a new character or a new goal. Why is the convolution not considered risky? I dunno if I even expressed that right. It just turns into a mess and I always think, did it have to? We could have all just been very happy with, a new crew and cast of characters finds an alien on its ship. Deals with it. I think the simple story retold with new people would hit huge. Or am I wrong?
@Vrynix
@Vrynix 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like the BCG-matrix. Or at least a possible cycle drawn on it at least.
@eugeneshevchenko8144
@eugeneshevchenko8144 6 жыл бұрын
Imagi comics were created by artists, was it successfull?
@sabinbrown320
@sabinbrown320 6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid
@fruitfarmfactory7901
@fruitfarmfactory7901 6 жыл бұрын
This is what happened to Dragonball franchise when they released DB Super. Terrible add-on.
@SPTX.
@SPTX. 6 жыл бұрын
Still better than GT.
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 6 жыл бұрын
Watchu talkin' bout? Dragon Ball Super was a lot of fun, and a good continuation of the story! Piccoyo, Dadgeta, and 17 = Best Characters!
@robinthrush9672
@robinthrush9672 6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Goku's existence in any given plot line ruins all tension in that series for me. All fights are meaningless until Goku makes the final round, all people's hopes (Kai's wish to be revived) are going to be dashed with needless dicking around in the filler episodes.
@LordMalice6d9
@LordMalice6d9 6 жыл бұрын
Well, the only arcs in that series that dodged the "Goku as Paragon savior" problem were if I remember, the Cell arc and Majin Boo arcs. Goku's son Gohan defeated Cell, and Goku would have lost to Buu if not for the Spirit Bomb with everyone's energy in it. Everything else was the writers blowing their loads all over Goku.
@robinthrush9672
@robinthrush9672 6 жыл бұрын
I count Goku's Buu Spirit Bomb as him being the solution since no one else knows it who fights. It's the same as the Zabasu fight; looks like Trunks landed the final blow, then super final form pops up and Goku pulls the "I win" button out, quite literally. Cell really is the only story arc ended by someone else. Still rooting for Krillen though. (::: 8 )
@m0ther_bra1ned12
@m0ther_bra1ned12 5 жыл бұрын
And in the case of The Last Jedi... literally the milking phase... :-Z
@guy8528
@guy8528 6 жыл бұрын
As Mike Stoklasa said....a sequel reboot is called a seaboot :D
@hurinsteadfast7826
@hurinsteadfast7826 5 жыл бұрын
Why does this happen? Greed.
@VNTomVideo
@VNTomVideo 6 жыл бұрын
Don't watch Covenant if you value the contents of your head. It is so horrendous, its painful.
@TheREALSeanKrummel
@TheREALSeanKrummel 6 жыл бұрын
The EU wasn't bad. A little perturbed by your use of that image. Disney books are garbage. Good video.
@fruitfarmfactory7901
@fruitfarmfactory7901 6 жыл бұрын
I lol when this happens to franchises.
@unicornonthecob4302
@unicornonthecob4302 6 жыл бұрын
FIRST! BOW!
@annaconsta
@annaconsta 4 жыл бұрын
I just hope Disney never buys Pokemon, that's all.
@DreadNate9
@DreadNate9 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t watch Alien Covenant. It’s terrible.
@unicornonthecob4302
@unicornonthecob4302 6 жыл бұрын
I loved it.
@Barutokun
@Barutokun 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it also make sense from a corporate perspective to give the artists more freedom? Sounds to me like that's the key to keeping an ip alive and milkable for a much longer period of time. How is this still being overlooked?
@vizuz
@vizuz 6 жыл бұрын
Bart de Jong if businessmen dont produce the numbers for the shareholders they are going to get fired. So they will try to control the production as much as they can by looking at, and implementing, the formulas and trends that are proven to push the numbers. Of course, this stifles creativity. So for the businessmen its a balancing game between how much they control the production vs how much freedom do we give the creative
@Barutokun
@Barutokun 6 жыл бұрын
Then I guess what the world needs in order to get creativity back, is for the public to start spotting these patterns. Basically, as long as consumers can be tricked into thinking a sequel or a reboot is the same as the thing they originally liked, they'll keep buying movie tickets and so on. Once more people start to see the pattern they may not be so quick to go for these cheap knock-offs. (I mean cheap in terms of story content, or soul if you will, not production values since those tend to be through the roof) Then again, not all consumers are that discerning. Sometimes they really do only care for the spectacle. I wonder if there's any loophole here..
@vizuz
@vizuz 6 жыл бұрын
This is already happening, people are becoming more and more critical thanks to social media, IMDB, Rottentomatoes etc. And you can see it in the fact the the new Star Wars movies are not doing as well as expected. You can only milk a franchise for so long before the public catches on and stops giving its money. At the end of the day, we all want quality content. The businessmen want quality content, because quality is the best predictor of long financial success. And the consumer obviously also wants quality content. The problem is when the businessmen see that numbers are falling, they try to milk a franchise even more by enforcing even more formulaic production onto the content. Because they have to sell a 'strategy' to the shareholders. If the higher ups don't have a strategy to increase sales, the shareholders will pull out the pitchforks and demand some names because the shareholders don't really care about the movies. The shareholders care about the value of their shares. And in general, shareholders are short term thinkers. So this will create a loop which strangles the creativity in big money projects. The solution isn't so simple. I would say that the best thing to maintain the authenticity of an IP is that the major shareholder of the company is a person who has a majority stake(51%). And has love and involvement in the products and doesn't just care about the numbers.
@seandetente1817
@seandetente1817 6 жыл бұрын
Overlooked? Hardly. Shit like Kickstarter and Patreon has enabled lots of independent artists and other entities to pursue their projects, be it petty or large. Artists are also notorious for having shit business skills.
@samuelhaines3685
@samuelhaines3685 6 жыл бұрын
The story of what happened to Halo pretty much.
@threadbearr8866
@threadbearr8866 6 жыл бұрын
I know a way to liberate artists that way we get better media: UBI.
@michaeloscar956
@michaeloscar956 6 жыл бұрын
wouldn't UBI cause rampant inflation?
@guy8528
@guy8528 6 жыл бұрын
Sean, you can disagree without devolving into a petulant douche.
@ETBrooD
@ETBrooD 6 жыл бұрын
John Garrison That's socialism, and socialism doesn't work. It incentivizes people to reduce their productivity.
@threadbearr8866
@threadbearr8866 6 жыл бұрын
You know you guys are right. David clearly agrees with you and that's why he clearly said that artists are only in it for the money and without that money there'd be no motivation for them to create art. /s Or do you disagree with David's point that artists don't need money to be motivated to create good art? Do you disagree that a bunch of people with UBI wouldn't pool their money to fund a movie? Do you think that reducing their income and allowing Disney to have even more money would spur innovation/artists? Some things to think about.
@DFMoray
@DFMoray 6 жыл бұрын
Buncha moof milkers.
@MutualZebra0123
@MutualZebra0123 6 жыл бұрын
i have not seen a single episode of the new thundercats but it is probably just as bad as the last jedi.
@spagzs
@spagzs 6 жыл бұрын
Aside from knowlens Batman, DC MAKES TERRIBLE LIVE ACTION MOVIES. however, almost every animated DC movie is great!
@sethdossett1304
@sethdossett1304 5 жыл бұрын
umm Dragonball... dragonball super is terrible
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