The 550hp 2025 Charger Six Pack will CRUSH the 670hp Scatpack EV in 8 different ways.

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RacerX

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I take a close look at the incoming 2025 Dodge Charger Daytona EV and tell you why the Charger Six Pack, which will be equipped with the new Hurricane Twin Turbo inline 6 cylinder will be the more desirable car to have. These are 8 reasons you should buy the 550hp gasoline powered car over the 675hp all electric car. Which car would you prefer?
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@RacerX9
@RacerX9 2 ай бұрын
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@DesertStateNevada
@DesertStateNevada 2 ай бұрын
I can't imagine how insane somebody has to be to not die of embarrassment, when they roll up to a red light in an EV, and rev their non existent engine to make fake engine sounds. Fake engine sounds represent way more than just the lack of an engine. They represent the decay of our civilization.
@jeffrey501green
@jeffrey501green 2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to anything ....except any EV.....
@charleslandry5883
@charleslandry5883 2 ай бұрын
The guy on the bike never flinched 😂
@strippingears9052
@strippingears9052 2 ай бұрын
The bike guy almost met is maker ……
@bdogjr7779
@bdogjr7779 2 ай бұрын
He didn't have a clue👍🏾😁🤳
@SRT-ow3cq
@SRT-ow3cq 2 ай бұрын
At least he wasn't in the middle of the road.
@Lowclef
@Lowclef 2 ай бұрын
From what I’ve read, i6 Hurricane sounds like a modern 2JZ-GTE. Those were tuned to make well over 1000hp. That in an AWD car will torch any hellcat/demon. Plus it can be had at possibly a current RT/Scatpack price? Game changer!
@maxedwellseven6724
@maxedwellseven6724 2 ай бұрын
I’m old school and have owned MANY V-8s; including 4 Challengers and 1 Barracuda. But a V-6 is not un-American! Europeans used straight or flat 6s and we cornered the market on V-6s. And, as we’ve learned from Porsche, a lighter weight 6 cylinder can often beat an 8 cylinder. This is progress boys. Give it a chance - Dodge is trying to please everyone but they can’t make everyone happy.
@eastsydecash
@eastsydecash 17 күн бұрын
Spoken Like An ACTUAL DODGE FAN! All These Other Guys Are Just HellCatt Lovers.
@dtruth5769
@dtruth5769 2 ай бұрын
THATS INSANE. ALMOST 1500LB PER WHEEL WITHOUT PASSENGERS
@crazypkm
@crazypkm 2 ай бұрын
How is 550hp with all that weight supposed to beat a 485hp
@doofus401k......
@doofus401k...... 2 ай бұрын
​@crazypkm that's the ev not the straight six
@lafosh7234
@lafosh7234 2 ай бұрын
@@crazypkmthat’s the EV not the SIX pack…also the sixpack will smoke a 392 off the line with those beefy tires all around plus and awd..BMW G80 action
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 2 ай бұрын
@@crazypkmBro if you take the 1,800lb battery out and put the inline 6 engine in the car it will weigh 4,641lbs it’s still heavier than the previous platform. Dodge made no improvements to the weight of the car you will still be getting beat by 10 speed Camaros and 10 Speed Mustangs and don’t even think about racing corvettes
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 2 ай бұрын
@@lafosh7234​​⁠Bro if you take the 1,800lb battery out and put the inline 6 engine in the car it will weigh 4,641lbs it’s still heavier than the previous platform. Dodge made no improvements to the weight of the car you will still be getting beat by 10 speed Camaros and 10 Speed Mustangs and don’t even think about racing corvettes.
@cadillacquan7424
@cadillacquan7424 2 ай бұрын
That ilne 6 will be my next car
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 2 ай бұрын
That car will weigh 4,641lbs the battery weighs 1,800lbs take the battery out and put the 441lbs inline 6 in the car it weighs more than the previous platform a Hellcat is actually lighter than the new platform I never thought I see the dat when I hear myself saying the a Charger and Challenger is a lighter car 💀💀💀
@TheAceKannon
@TheAceKannon 2 ай бұрын
People are underestimating the engines cuz they aren’t V8’s. They’ll be faster no doubt, but most people are just sad the sound is going away
@jovaniortiz8317
@jovaniortiz8317 2 ай бұрын
@@redhunnid5142Well, It is a bigger car and it has the unnecessary weight of the awd system
@5plus4
@5plus4 Ай бұрын
No. The I6 hurricane charger will weigh 4000 lbs .
@5plus4
@5plus4 Ай бұрын
No its smaller and lighter
@angryfirebirdgaming
@angryfirebirdgaming 2 ай бұрын
The high output Hurricane Charger is designed to rival the Supras and GTRs. The horrible thing about the EV is that the RT and Scat badges are being used on it. The Hurricane should have those badges. Seriously there are Hornets with RT badging and they're under 300HP.
@yarrik701
@yarrik701 2 ай бұрын
If they've already lengthened the hood to accommodate an i6, why not just throw in a cummins. 😂
@blackice7408
@blackice7408 2 ай бұрын
The cummins engine itself weighs over 1000 lbs. If they put that massive slab of iron in that already supremely battery operated charger, youre talking about a vehicle that wont be that far off in terms of weigjt as a ram 2500/3500 or a grand wagoneer l. It will be heavier than a ram trx.
@yarrik701
@yarrik701 2 ай бұрын
@@blackice7408 Who said anything about putting it in the EV? I'm thinking, more of an alternative to the Hurricane. It's not like it's a light car to begin with. They'll never do it, but a certain cummins mustang sure looked awesome.
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 2 ай бұрын
@@blackice7408The car already the same weight as a heavy duty pickup truck it wouldn’t make no difference Tim Kuniskis CEO of Dodge is a terrible CEO smh dude just made a frame that’s the sand weight as a truck
@liamfirebird6922
@liamfirebird6922 2 ай бұрын
I'm excited for SixPack! The straight 6 has always been one of my favorite engine configurations. In most cases they are torque monsters and they are bullet proof reliable. There is a reason most diesels are straight 6 turbos. Great video RacerX. I would love to see you get a SixPack and mod the tire smokin', asphalt rippin' crap outta that thing!
@NBC_NCO
@NBC_NCO 2 ай бұрын
It can be yours for 10k per mph.
@ramcharger1978
@ramcharger1978 2 ай бұрын
Let’s get real, the best thing to do is to junk the straight 6 and drop a crate engine Hemi into the new Charger.
@tiersofemotion222
@tiersofemotion222 2 ай бұрын
😂
@cadillacquan7424
@cadillacquan7424 2 ай бұрын
That engine is dead get over it
@Protoscope
@Protoscope 2 ай бұрын
Dumbest thing i ever heard. There's a reason inline 6 are taking over the car scene. BMW B58 and S58 the peak of car scene right now
@sammi5281
@sammi5281 2 ай бұрын
I take the 6 and run circles around the old hemi
@DesertStateNevada
@DesertStateNevada 2 ай бұрын
@@Protoscope THAT is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Nobody cares about bmws, and especially about inline 6 engines. If you want a light fast vehicle get a motorbike. Chargers and muscle cars were always about V8s.
@johnnykilroy9399
@johnnykilroy9399 2 ай бұрын
Nah this is a crazy statement as much as I love V8s these inline-6 are ELITE when it comes to making power
@Bizzair1990
@Bizzair1990 2 ай бұрын
Only issue is weighing 6000lbd. As 4300lbs it would be insane
@Lowclef
@Lowclef 2 ай бұрын
@@Bizzair1990the gas car will NOT weigh as much as the EV. It will likely weigh less than the current v8 Charger.
@johnnykilroy9399
@johnnykilroy9399 2 ай бұрын
@@Bizzair1990 The gas cars definitely aren’t going to weigh 6k im hoping it only weighs 4k max
@somejackball
@somejackball 2 ай бұрын
well, having owned a 89 Turbo TA, and my Ex a 91 Twin turbo 3000GT VR4, i can tell you, Turbo 6 cylinder cars can be a lot of fun! and this coming Hurricane powered Dodge has way more HP than those did! should also mention the Turbo charged Grand National, the Silkwood's son up the street from me got one after they got their Kerr McGee settlement. and it was no slouch either! Turbo 6 muscle cars were very popular in the past, and proved their worth. maybe we can give Dodge a chance at least. just hope they can make it sound close to a V8 like Pontiac did with the 89 Turbo TA. not sure exactly how they did it, but i know it had larger headers, 3in pipes and a tuned muffler of some sort. and it DID sound like a V8. check em out on YT. and not since that car, have i seen not one auto maker, or aftermarket exhaust company duplicate it. but ya, i'll pass on the EVs, no interest in ever owning one! ☮
@roymorgan5498
@roymorgan5498 2 ай бұрын
To bad they won't make the I6 first. Great video RacerX!
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 2 ай бұрын
That car will weigh 4,641lbs 😐
@ryandyson5398
@ryandyson5398 2 ай бұрын
Agreed brotha that 6 pack is a American Supra I hope it’s mpi and DI fueling like the mustangs dodge will kill it easy E85 tuned oh yeah the 550 will be 600 or 650 just tuned and fuel change
@bobbycalifornia7077
@bobbycalifornia7077 2 ай бұрын
Not sure the I6 is going to be much of a deal considering the price increases we’ve seen from Jeep and Ram. Ram Rebel 1500 went up $5k for 2025 with the I6 and a refresh. Charger getting the same motor and AWD standard sounds like a start in the $50k range.
@maromyers964
@maromyers964 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully, the HO TTi6 will live up to its name. The 5.0 gt makes 800rwhp with just a whipple, so im hoping this hurricane makes up to 1000hp with stock internals, then it will be an interesting future. Camaro has left the chat..
@floorpizza8074
@floorpizza8074 2 ай бұрын
Would be great if the Six Pack cars end up being the Supra's of the '20's. For those that weren't around back then, the Supra was *the* car to buy and mod for an amazing dollar/performance ratio. I've owned Chargers since the reintroduction of the Hemi powered Charger in the '05 model year. I was thinking about getting the EV Charger when it's released, but after watching this, the lure of a twin turbo charged inline six might just be too tempting to overcome.
@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod
@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod 2 ай бұрын
These EV’s are so damn heavy… not an EV fan, sir.. i may be interested in the Hurricane though! I will give it the chance and test drive one. But you have to know they’re still is over 1000 charger hellcat wide bodies available market! Great upload,sir! Hope everything’s going OK for you
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 2 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy.. hope you are doing well. Headed to Cali to film with Magnaflow later today
@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod
@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod 2 ай бұрын
@@RacerX9That’s cool!! have fun buddy
@johnmalandrino2766
@johnmalandrino2766 2 ай бұрын
I guarantee there will me a heavy price gouge on the six pack . I can't see many people looking for the EV. Not many people looking for a refrigerator with wheels.
@kevinporter1832
@kevinporter1832 2 ай бұрын
Why would u want to buy over priced dodge junk .u guys crack me up and are the reason dodge has raised prices more then any manufacturer because u jack asses will buy it .go buy one i dare u because u clearly haven't realized why so many Dodges are still sitting on the lot.
@larryc1616
@larryc1616 2 ай бұрын
​@@johnmalandrino2766Racers want the faster car. EV > ICE 4680 Roadster = GAME OVER BABY! ⚡️ 🇺🇸
@aj_hlct6230
@aj_hlct6230 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree with all of your points on the new hurricane powered vehicles! Im actually excited about how they will perform! I would be very interested in having even the base one for daily commutes. I’ve had a couple turboed powered cars. One thing I’ve noticed, is the exhaust notes are very different from the n/a cars when installing aftermarket systems. They sound really nice and aggressive vice the obnoxious noise from n/a 4 or 6 cylinder cars.
@user-nh4je9ul7f
@user-nh4je9ul7f 2 ай бұрын
I just checked like and watched love my new coyote glad I made the switch
@noahknight4039
@noahknight4039 2 ай бұрын
I have a 2018 5.0 but the HO Sixpack has my interest. Problem is the estimated price is around $50,000 and we know dealers are going to add a crazy markup. They’re trying to sell Dark Horse for over $100,000. So you know on the low end the RT Sixpack will probably be $60,000.
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 2 ай бұрын
Your Coyote will beat this fake Six Pack garbage inline 6 I promise you!!!
@user-nh4je9ul7f
@user-nh4je9ul7f 2 ай бұрын
@@noahknight4039 I hear 2026 ford dropping something nice . What’s the weight on that six pack seen that video at track day was slow
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 2 ай бұрын
@@noahknight4039The Six Pack will cost SRT money with markup but it’s 4,641lbs you’re not beating anything anyway so especially not any other tuned inline 6 sport cars out here
@noahknight4039
@noahknight4039 2 ай бұрын
@@user-nh4je9ul7fIt looked slow? On paper it seems like it’ll be a beast. I have a feeling because of the reputation of running from cops that Dodge is just choking all their cars. I mean they say the 170 Demon has over 1000hp but a top speed capped at 152mph.
@TonyTheTruckGuy
@TonyTheTruckGuy 2 ай бұрын
The Hurricane is for sure going to be the way to go if they're doing the ability of 2wd and AWD while having more power and weighing less. It won't sounds like any V8, but it will have to do. Beats all EV options I guess, and the engine seems to have great potential. Looks like a pain to work on though haha
@cbruno12180
@cbruno12180 2 ай бұрын
Look guys even the 420 hp engine will be very moddable just look at the bmw340i has the 400hp inline 6 and tuners are getting 600hp with bolt ons and tune.. so its going to be really cool to have this option with dodge now
@parkercarter3917
@parkercarter3917 2 ай бұрын
It’s still not a Muscle Car.
@ManiacalManiac
@ManiacalManiac 2 ай бұрын
That's not a positive that you think it is
@michaelceziggy
@michaelceziggy 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you. It was nice met you last week at drag strip. Hope see you again you have amazing car
@peterpowder8546
@peterpowder8546 2 ай бұрын
What’s gonna happen with all these Electric time bombs when we start to drill baby drill!?
@yarrik701
@yarrik701 2 ай бұрын
If lot-rot doesn't get them, maybe, just maybe, they'll at least serve another purpose: Earning Dodge enough super cereal Al Gore approved "carbon credits" to bring back the v8.
@clif4403
@clif4403 2 ай бұрын
What's gonna happen to all these electric time bombs when they need batteries? $$$$
@thumbgas888
@thumbgas888 2 ай бұрын
A turbo MOTOR is way easier to get free HP than an N/A MOTOR, I like how the new Charger looks and a little play to it that this is going to fly. Granted I love the sound of the v8, but that Hurricane will be more fuel efficient and more power per litter than any HEMI V8
@readyon3506
@readyon3506 2 ай бұрын
They are almost heavy as the trackhawk
@Almighty7266
@Almighty7266 2 ай бұрын
Heavier ! 😭
@S8ER
@S8ER 2 ай бұрын
the EV is way heavier...this inline 6 is unknown but I suspect it may even be heavier than a trackhawk.
@leopapio683
@leopapio683 2 ай бұрын
Well maybe not lighter then a trackhawk but definitely lighter then the TRX 😂 AND BY LIKE 400ISH LBS lol
@Lowclef
@Lowclef 2 ай бұрын
The 2025 ICE chassis has a lighter chassis and lighter engine, it will likely be a very similar if not lighter car than the current Charger
@timprice8877
@timprice8877 2 ай бұрын
Love your content as always bro 👍🏼 You always reminded me of Kurt Angel & Goldberg all in one person 😂 2 years of watching you & I finally commented what's on my mind lol 😅
@bblessedbeats
@bblessedbeats 2 ай бұрын
What’s your thoughts on a flat 6 Dodge Viper? Just curious.
@JuanLopez-dk6qw
@JuanLopez-dk6qw 2 ай бұрын
When can I order a 2025 4 door Charger in Go Mango 420 HP?
@KillerPowerslave
@KillerPowerslave 2 ай бұрын
I want one in indica green
@Justtwodangmany
@Justtwodangmany 2 ай бұрын
Probably early next year. One does seem appealing. Id hope its low-mid 30k But I dont need one, id just want something new.
@JRLL81_
@JRLL81_ 2 ай бұрын
​@@Justtwodangmanyno way its gonna be low mid 30k, expect low 40s high 40s
@Justtwodangmany
@Justtwodangmany 2 ай бұрын
@@JRLL81_ GOOD, so I wont want to buy it! 😂
@LXandBeyondNats
@LXandBeyondNats 2 ай бұрын
Great review and comparison. Good bullet points to think about!
@rustyshaklferd1897
@rustyshaklferd1897 2 ай бұрын
The 3.8 turbo v6 in the 87 grand national regularly made over 1k hp without touching the engine and with an exhaust it rumbled quite nicely along with the fighter jet sounding whistle.
@ManiacalManiac
@ManiacalManiac 2 ай бұрын
You have to mod those engines to get that power. Do you even read?
@jamesmitchell6598
@jamesmitchell6598 2 ай бұрын
Yeah your dreaming big time if believe that
@lesstyranny2695
@lesstyranny2695 2 ай бұрын
I own a '87 Grand National with modest mods putting 400-450 hp with stock internals (its a daily driver). Over 600hp you need billet upgraded internals, stage 2 heads and billet trans along with massively oversized intake, exhaust and intercoolers. 1Khp out of a 3.8L has def been done before but requires alot of time, patience and money... but with its low curb weight it will pretty much out drag everything out there.
@711slimshawny
@711slimshawny 2 ай бұрын
I like your optimism of all these changes.
@tomfromeyer6230
@tomfromeyer6230 23 күн бұрын
Just buy the Mustang GT with a NA V8. Glad they're still producing them 👏🏻
@christopherscott8272
@christopherscott8272 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely love 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder cars. I dont mean to be a negative guy towards this Hurricane version of the Charger, but I'm just not sold on it. If i want a Charger, or Camaro, or Mustang, or Viper or Corvette etc, I want a V8. Im aware these 4 and 6 cylinder cars can in a lot of cases be faster than the V8 but a lot of us never really race their car. I dont race mine. I just want the V8 in a muscle car because of not only the feel of the car but how that car makes me feel.
@JRLL81_
@JRLL81_ 2 ай бұрын
You never know,,, the hurricane may do all the same things as a v8, just lack the sound
@christopherscott8272
@christopherscott8272 2 ай бұрын
@@JRLL81_ it may. It just won't feel like a muscle car to me
@carboydorifutoparty3976
@carboydorifutoparty3976 2 ай бұрын
​@@christopherscott8272I honestly don't mind. I've been wanting to see if any American manufacturer made another I6 that'd show promise with power similar to the german/jdm crowd would come about since peeps are slowly creeping in on the 4200 vortec I6 and see potential in them making power. Now that dodges releasing a I6TT I'm interested to see how far people can push these tbh cause we rarely ever see a American I6 or 6 cylinder in general, hold a candle to the performance i6s from other countries.
@christopherscott8272
@christopherscott8272 2 ай бұрын
@carboydorifutoparty3976 that's fair enough. As I said before, I love some 4 or 6 cylinder vehicles. I hope the car does well. I'm nkt even saying I wouldn't buy one. If I did buy one, it just wouldn't be to satisfy the need for a muscle car.
@bigheavy12
@bigheavy12 2 ай бұрын
Great video and thanks for the info
@expectnolove9978
@expectnolove9978 2 ай бұрын
Great video!!! Well throughout points.... I would be interested in the scatpack just to have something to turn up... After watching your video on the superbee wide body, My wife I found one last weekend $5k below msrp and now proud owners of our 2nd Mopar....
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 2 ай бұрын
Heck yea .. congrats buddy 👍
@williamrose7818
@williamrose7818 2 ай бұрын
Voltage won’t make a difference when it comes to the weight of the car. Now, adding two more electrical motors or another electrical motor will definitely change the weight. But the voltage increase will not make a difference
@jnovakit
@jnovakit 2 ай бұрын
I've never wanted a modern Challenger/Charger, but I might like a Hurricane/AWD as a daily driver.
@soulodecarlo8108
@soulodecarlo8108 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, I haven’t seen anyone happy about the new line up. Just as a fan of cars in general, this lineup seems like it could’ve been more successful if it was released before ending the hemi production
@Akosa117
@Akosa117 2 ай бұрын
I’m excited for them, and I think it’s funny how you acknowledge the only reasons this might not be successful is because dodge fans are butthurt and petty
@robpetoletti826
@robpetoletti826 2 ай бұрын
Very cool, thank you!
@skybluemarshall
@skybluemarshall Ай бұрын
If you're not totally married to the V8 engine and you like the way this new car looks, then this is actually a win/win. The AWD, 4 door, 420 hp, I6, Sixpack Charger is expected to start in the high $30K range. The current AWD, 4 door, 300 hp V6 Charger, starts in the high-$30K range. You get 120 extra ponies and a brand new design for a few grand extra. The AWD, 2 door, 550 hp, I6 Charger is expected to start in the mid-$40K range. The current RWD, two door, 370hp, V8 RT Challenger, starts in the mid-$40k range. You get 180 extra ponies and AWD, but you lose two cylinders. I'd say that both of these are pretty fair trades, unless you can't live without a V8 in your life.
@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod
@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod 2 ай бұрын
This new EV chambered exhaust is really dumb. I’d be literally embarrassed to drive that in front of people making that noise.. just saying
@FlatPlaneCranky
@FlatPlaneCranky 2 ай бұрын
It’ll only sound great in San Francisco. 😂😂😂
@slingernoob356
@slingernoob356 2 ай бұрын
@@FlatPlaneCrankyHahah Facts! They a bunch of 🤡
@ex.spaceshuttle.worker
@ex.spaceshuttle.worker 2 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if that fake sound can be bought on a CD or download it on an MP3 and then play it through my speakers in my 4-cylinder economy car when I'm going down the road so I can sound like a V8 when I'm driving around town lol.
2 ай бұрын
The production workers in Windsor are missing the minivan because they believe these models are gonna flop and there goes their jobs.
@nascarnut00
@nascarnut00 2 ай бұрын
Why are they missing the minivan ? They are still being built along with the charger all on the same line. So your charger has minivan DNA LOL . Pacifica isn’t going anywhere. There’s even another unnamed vehicle going to Windsor along with these two vehicles
2 ай бұрын
@@nascarnut00The consonance is that the electric platform is not ready for prime time and will be a flop.
@nascarnut00
@nascarnut00 2 ай бұрын
I agree
@smacdiesel
@smacdiesel 2 ай бұрын
I don't care anymore.
@paulvincent3825
@paulvincent3825 2 ай бұрын
I believe that the hurricane will outsell the EV 100 to one. 💰💰💰
@Larry_M6790
@Larry_M6790 2 ай бұрын
I'm starting to come around on the Hurricane engine Charger. A 420 hp 4 door Charger is no slouch, and a 550 hp 2 door Charger is more than enough horsepower needed on the roads, and to be able to switch between 2wd and awd is amazing.
@charlespapineau5428
@charlespapineau5428 2 ай бұрын
The EV version weighs 5800 pounds!
@chuckz28
@chuckz28 2 ай бұрын
Insane. F**ker is going to be hard to stop!
@ex.spaceshuttle.worker
@ex.spaceshuttle.worker 2 ай бұрын
​@@chuckz28ditto. It better have big large brakes to stop it
@nathancrossley8210
@nathancrossley8210 2 ай бұрын
I like the 2 door look. Hope it's a practical vehicle.
@carboydorifutoparty3976
@carboydorifutoparty3976 2 ай бұрын
Considering the 4 door is basically the same car,I'd say they're practical,especially with how much larger they are now.
@bfula9900
@bfula9900 Ай бұрын
Gas n go definitely a huge deal! I like 1000hp. I'm getting a Ram HO and turning it up to about 650 horse seems like a good starting point
@MisterMikeTexas
@MisterMikeTexas 2 ай бұрын
The Fratzonic exhaust reminds me of singer Brian Johnson with laryngitis.
@johndantona2726
@johndantona2726 2 ай бұрын
Hey Racer x, Have you heard anything about the Federal Tax Credit $7500 for the Daytona charger. Love the look and awd 670 hp!
@jermainejpshepherd2778
@jermainejpshepherd2778 2 ай бұрын
Glad Dodge keeping Mod Life alive for us boys.
@jaredanderson53
@jaredanderson53 Ай бұрын
Is the i6 the base engine, or are they still gonna use the pentastar v6?
@skybluemarshall
@skybluemarshall Ай бұрын
The 420 hp, twin turbo I6 "Sixpack" is the base model 4 door. The 550 hp, twin turbo I6 "Sixpack" is the base model 2 door. The new 420 hp I6 cars will be badged as S.O. (standard output). The new 550 hp I6 cars will badged as H.O. (high output). All new Charger models will be AWD. All of the V8 and V6 Chargers are being canceled. The Challenger name and model will be shelved for at least the near future.
@jaredanderson53
@jaredanderson53 Ай бұрын
​@@skybluemarshallthanks
@markmartinez1888
@markmartinez1888 2 ай бұрын
Love the stash with dash of salt and pepper brudda😉 let's get it 💪 🙌 😤 👏 👌
@davidrosing5788
@davidrosing5788 Ай бұрын
RacerX, Actually, the arguments you make only encourage me to want to go and get the EV Daytona, but for other considerations that you may not have thought about: 1) The Hurricane 6 cyl twin turbo motor will indeed produce a lot more power, but one has to remember that in an ICE engine only about 1/3 of the energy originally stored in the fuel is available to overcome internal drivetrain friction and propel the car. Half of the remaining 2/3 available energy gets blown out the tailpipe as heat, the other 1/3 is transferred to the surrounding atmosphere via the radiator and other driveline cooling systems. So in order to produce your 1000 hp to the wheels, 1000 will go out the tailpipe as heat and the other 1000 will have to get transferred to the radiator. Normally this is no big deal, but remember that the displacement of these engines are getting lower and lower, which means the TEMPERATURES of some of these key engine/drivetrain components are going to get a LOT hotter than their earlier generations' counterparts. Have you noticed lately that there are a lot more PLASTIC components in the engine bay nowadays? Some of those are on key components, say like a plastic fitting on the thermostat housing that's sitting right above the exhaust manifold? After a lot of thermal cycles (run engine to normal operating temp, shut down, let sit overnight, repeat) all those plastic bits start to fatigue. Some break, and a few key ones can shut the engine down if, say, all the coolant blows out of the engine when you're driving through the desert (Oh, gosh, that NEVER happened to me :rolleyes:) So from a long term reliability viewpoint, the Hurricane engine has a built-in strike against it vs. the EV motor as the operational temperatures of the EV drivtrain won't get as hot as the ICE. 2) From a total system complexity point of view, there are LOT more moving parts in the ICE engine and transmission. Yeah, the engineers have had 140 years of experience making the things reliable, but the trouble is, the more parts there are that make the systems more complex (e.g., compare the 1969 3 speed automatic transmission vs. a modern 10 speed automatic transmission) , the more the probability is that something can fail. And when they do fail, they cost a lot more to fix. If Dodge has an electric motor like the Tesla's that needs no transmission (full torque available all the way to 13,000 rpm) the transmission disappears and (in theory, at least) this makes the drivetrain way more reliable. 3) Yup, batteries can die on the EV. But so can the engine on the Hurricane or the transmission. With all of the now heat-soaked and thermal-cycled plastic bits on the Hurricane after, say, 10 years of service, and if the engine has to get replaced, a lot of those plastic bits are going to break when they have to get removed if the engine has to be replaced or worked on. The engine and transmission are a bear to get out of the car and back in, so labor cost to replace them is significant because it can take a lot of time. If Dodge PLANS on battery replacement on the EV Daytona, this can be done in a few hours by dropping a few panels and swapping the battery out without messing with the other parts of the drivetrain. Remember, a lot of people change cars because they're afraid the engine or transmission will fail and cost a lot to repair. With the EV there's no fuel system, no exhaust system, no emissions system, no separate alternator system, no engine oil that has to get changed every 5,000 miles, no transmission fluid that has to get changed every 60,000 miles, the cooling system doesn't have to extract as much heat as the ICE, so there are things going in the EV's favor. 4) One of the drawbacks of the EV's weight that you don't mention is that because they weigh more, they will chew through tires faster than their lighter brethren. But one advantage of the higher weight is that if the battery pack is placed at the floor of the vehicle, the lower center of gravity will enhance stability and handling. 5) the major drawback of the Daytona EV is that Dodge hasn't made one that's been proven to be reliable yet, so I'm not so sure I want to the beta tester for the thing. But given enough time, the EV concept will prove itself. Frankly, I remember when the 1969 Challenger R/T was new, and it was my favorite muscle car after my all-time favorite of the 1965 Buick Riviera. The trouble is that the '69 Challengers were bought up and destroyed in the "Dukes of Hazard" TV show, so finding a used on in decent shape is pretty much an impossibility nowadays. So, yeah, with all of you guys wanting the Hurricane versions, save one of the EV's for me and hopefully the price will come down for the car I'd prefer to get, namely the EV (when all the bugs are worked out) Besides, remember you actually WANT those of us who prefer the EV's to buy them in order to allow Dodge to make the Hellcat versions for those of you who prefer the ICE. That way Dodge doesn't have to waste millions on credits to Tesla if Dodge can make their own EV. In my mind I'd think that because a lot of buyers prefer the ICE, Dodge should discount the EV to enable more sales of the EV, but this, in turn, will allow more sales of the Hurricane without penalty fines from the EPA, Just a thought. My 2 cents, mind you. YMMV.
@jeffsenecal4168
@jeffsenecal4168 2 ай бұрын
All valid. Ima save some money buy a used Supercharged V8 lol
@cerogravity8653
@cerogravity8653 2 ай бұрын
I do think that the inline 6 hurricane does have a chance to have a cult following like the GTR, it could be the GTR of the car muscle world who knows only time will tell.
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 2 ай бұрын
No it won’t because they won’t be beating anything the car with the Inline 6 engine weighs 4,641lbs it weighs more than the previous platform a Hellcat is actually lighter than this Six Pack inline Charger smh why does a inline 6 weigh as much as a V8 the BMW inline 6 weighs 300lbs it’s nothing lighter about this new Dodge Charger it’s the exact opposite it’s twice as heavier as the previous platform
@Lowclef
@Lowclef 2 ай бұрын
@@redhunnid5142 what makes you say it will be heavier when the chassis and the engine are lighter than the current Charger?
@305brian
@305brian 2 ай бұрын
What is the range on ev
@jamesmitchell6598
@jamesmitchell6598 2 ай бұрын
I understand people hating they don't have the hemi I love it too. But straight 6s can be made to run an if you put split headers on them they sound as good or better then a v8.have seen an heard a straight 6 done this way an thought it was a v8 till the hood was upon it had a straight 6
@chris10isleyen
@chris10isleyen 2 ай бұрын
Honestly debating trading my 21 SXT Plus for the inline 6 when it comes out.
@revelare_xvii6269
@revelare_xvii6269 2 ай бұрын
What makes this funnier is that this the first time since the 1980s that Dodge has made a factory Charger without a V8.
@bridgetrobertson7134
@bridgetrobertson7134 Ай бұрын
I'm fine with a straight six. All of them, not just 2JZ, can do around 1000hp. Some easier than others but even the old GM 4200s are on this same level. What no one is realizing, though, is that a turbo 6 is not going to be able to run the cheap gas, lol. Non turbo, sure, with some exceptions like BMW. In the end it's going to be the government that makes these things impossible to tune, though. Not that I would bother with the Dodge version until they're cheap junkyard motors.
@zacharyburket55
@zacharyburket55 2 ай бұрын
Has anyone seen what the official curb weight is for the six pack??
@carboydorifutoparty3976
@carboydorifutoparty3976 2 ай бұрын
Hasn't been given out yet tbh.
@kNightPhantom392
@kNightPhantom392 Ай бұрын
I do enjoy a TT 6 cylinder. The lincolns had them in their AWD cars and were great. Those weren't even this powerful. The HO hurricane is worth looking into a bit.
@SovereignKnight74
@SovereignKnight74 2 ай бұрын
I'm with you on this one! I have a feeling that Hurricane I6 HO is going to give the EV counterparts a run for their money! Hurricane I6 HO all the way!! I can't wait to hear what a tuned, cherry exhaust note will sound like in the Hurricane I6!
@joshlamar1990
@joshlamar1990 2 ай бұрын
These engines may be locked who knows.
@mogulme6190
@mogulme6190 2 ай бұрын
@@joshlamar1990well so was the mustang, so was the c8. Good lord. Stop all the fucking complaining
@joshlamar1990
@joshlamar1990 2 ай бұрын
@@mogulme6190 stfu who complaining I’m just not getting my hopes up or be fed lies.
@beachside1
@beachside1 2 ай бұрын
Let these cars pile up at the dealer...I would rather keep my Nissan 300zx twin turbo in good shape over buying an EV
@Lowclef
@Lowclef 2 ай бұрын
This post isn’t even about the EV
@rustyshaklferd1897
@rustyshaklferd1897 2 ай бұрын
The demon 170 with the blower removed and turbo charged made 300 hp more at I believe 0psi, just removing vacuum. It may have made a couple psi, but very low if any. The parasitic drag of spinning the blower was about 300hp worth if I recall correctly.
@LeadStarDude
@LeadStarDude 2 ай бұрын
30 horsepower drag difference, not 300. Also, twin turbo is a nightmare in comparison when considering all the things that could possibly go wrong. 0% chance of a supercharger having a runaway like a turbo can when it fails.
@k.c.reptiles9044
@k.c.reptiles9044 2 ай бұрын
670hp AWD Dodge sound f-nuts 💀
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 2 ай бұрын
6,000lbs along with that don’t forget that it’s a aircraft carrier it won’t be beating anything
@charlescooper8235
@charlescooper8235 2 ай бұрын
Racer X, ask your engineer buddies what is the limits of the propshaft or driveshaft. This will give you an answer on the speed limits.
@DariusClaxton
@DariusClaxton 2 ай бұрын
What’s the weight of the car with the six pack?
@Lowclef
@Lowclef 2 ай бұрын
Likely less than the current Charger seeing as the chassis and the i6 engine weighs less than the current Hemi
@leon_games5332
@leon_games5332 2 ай бұрын
I love the new 2025 dodge charger HO looks awesome but I have two big concerns 1. I hope they put a better security system so the six pack doesn’t get Rob and number 2. I hope the engine last longer without any problems
@thecaptainkern7974
@thecaptainkern7974 2 ай бұрын
My Concern with the big EV would be Braking distance!
@larryc1616
@larryc1616 2 ай бұрын
4800lbs S Plaid outbrakes the Chiron because ev's also has regen braking too.
@richierich398
@richierich398 2 ай бұрын
Great vid!
@themanisworthit1022
@themanisworthit1022 2 ай бұрын
cant wait to see what the six pack can do
@erictate8986
@erictate8986 2 ай бұрын
Racer X friend keep up the great work 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😃😃💪💪💪👍👍👍👍
@grinreaper.
@grinreaper. 2 ай бұрын
Imagine the speaker shorting out while you try and rev that ev 😂
@michaelt6413
@michaelt6413 2 ай бұрын
Maybe, just maybe, a wrangler will have a proper straight six again some day
@desmo8755
@desmo8755 2 ай бұрын
Good to see the Charger get some love, most are critical of it. Lucky they’re doing this dual-platform with EV. That said, as good as an I6 is and although some makes have made a performance name with them (BMW, not the Nissan you showed) … I suspect Dodge buyers are V8 buyers. Time will tell.
@WoolfJ35
@WoolfJ35 2 ай бұрын
If they offer Carbon body parts for it that Six Pack could be made lighter and even more potent, I hope that motor truly stays solid for the new HP race that will come from the modders.
@AbnEngrDan
@AbnEngrDan 2 ай бұрын
The V6 is fine if people want it. Just doesn’t sound and feel the same. BMW, Nissan, and other makers have mastered big power V6s. Dodge is gonna have to show people something over time to earn the trust back.
@S8ER
@S8ER 2 ай бұрын
Exactly what I've been saying... this is an uphill battle and Dodge doesn't carry enough goodwill with me to pull this off.
@thekingsmen4631
@thekingsmen4631 2 ай бұрын
Not a v6
@michaelthomas5140
@michaelthomas5140 2 ай бұрын
Inline 6
@JRLL81_
@JRLL81_ 2 ай бұрын
Can yall stop calling it a damn v6,,, it's an inline 6
@thekingsmen4631
@thekingsmen4631 2 ай бұрын
@@JRLL81_ dude you have no idea how much i wanna throw up when people call its a v6
@Skidz75
@Skidz75 2 ай бұрын
The car comes from Dodge/Stellantis already at a high boost. How much more can the “wick be turned up”? Just curious. Now I think the mods can come in way of exhaust/downpipe then tuning it for those mods, but probably not increasing the boost too much. Your thoughts X?
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 2 ай бұрын
The engine can take more than double the cylinder pressure of the high output that’s being offered! They are testing one with bigger turbos that makes WAY more power 👍
@Skidz75
@Skidz75 2 ай бұрын
@@RacerX9 huh interesting. That should make for a great “tuner car”! 😎
@cerogravity8653
@cerogravity8653 2 ай бұрын
Can we get the H/O in 4 door variant or is it only 2 doors, I mean you can probably just tune the standard output to make close the the H/O because they said the only difference is a tune I think am not to sure.
@luigibovio9983
@luigibovio9983 2 ай бұрын
If the engine is built as the current bmw twin turbo S58, with a few modifications, we can get up to 1000 horses
@bobbycalifornia7077
@bobbycalifornia7077 2 ай бұрын
@@cerogravity86534 door is S.O. only and the differences are significant. S.O. has cast aluminum parts whereas the H.O. has forged aluminum parts. The cooling is beefed is on the H.O. as well.
@HarleymikesDemon170
@HarleymikesDemon170 2 ай бұрын
Really dont care about the EV stuff. And yes, it's way too heavy. I think the Hurricane Engine is going to grow in power over the years. I am interested in the inline 6. I do prefer the V8 sound though. But your right, wait until the tuners and after market guys get going. It will be crazy I think.
@wolfsden5623
@wolfsden5623 2 ай бұрын
I don’t see the ev out selling the online 6 cars
@ryfheembrooks9156
@ryfheembrooks9156 2 ай бұрын
The sound isn't fake. It's the way they do it.
@andrewverdino769
@andrewverdino769 2 ай бұрын
I hope your right that the v6 car will Be way lighter than the ev. I love the on off for the awd system on both cars.
@jamesmitchell6598
@jamesmitchell6598 2 ай бұрын
Man learn the difference between v6 an straight 6
@haroldbirge6881
@haroldbirge6881 2 ай бұрын
🏆Racer X🏆🍀you're the man 😎✌️
@smilsmff
@smilsmff 2 ай бұрын
I keep remembering in shop class in school 1970s how they now had technology to make cars lighter and stronger metal for cars in the future. looks like someone was or is Bs. those new cars are heavier then Land Yachts of the 1970s
@michaelthomas5140
@michaelthomas5140 2 ай бұрын
I think the TT Inline 6 version is over 4 inches wider and 8 inches longer than the current gen. Plus it has awd which doesn’t help with weight either. It’s got a lot more technology features and bigger wheels/tires as well. It’s hard to believe it will be lighter, but hopefully RacerX is correct in the 4k lbs range.
@LeadStarDude
@LeadStarDude 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't understand why all newer vehicles are so heavy. My 2005 Daytona edition RAM 1500 regular cab truck only weighs 4300lbs curb weight. The newer trucks are close to 5800lbs. Same for the cars. Most are 1000lbs or more heavier than they were just 15 to 20 years ago. There are too many extra electronics, I guess.
@JohnnyRoadRunner-rr6qf
@JohnnyRoadRunner-rr6qf 2 ай бұрын
should make a slant six
@stlhd4lyfe1
@stlhd4lyfe1 2 ай бұрын
Big steelhead fisherman here and also a Scatpack owner. Lemme guess, are those St.Croix rods on the wall?
@RacerX9
@RacerX9 2 ай бұрын
They are 👍
@stlhd4lyfe1
@stlhd4lyfe1 2 ай бұрын
@@RacerX9 that’s what you call attention to detail 🤣 St.Croix are nice. Check out CTS rods if you’re ever looking for an upgrade.
@poly_g6068
@poly_g6068 2 ай бұрын
Those HO hurricanes are going to be muuuch lighter. Honestly no point putting those fat batteries in such a huge car
@jamesmatheson4746
@jamesmatheson4746 2 ай бұрын
A straight-six is a more balanced motor by design.
@ceooflovingthehomies9294
@ceooflovingthehomies9294 2 ай бұрын
While I’d only put my money into a 6.1, 6.2 or 6.4 Challenger or Magnum, I am still excited to see the 6 pack. While I wish they’d have used the stealth name instead of giving it a muscle car aesthetic it’s going to be a sweet ride. Even though I’d take my 10 speed 5.0 over it, it’s gonna be smoking me in Mexico that’s for sure!
@wdial659
@wdial659 2 ай бұрын
Any of these cars going to have a manual trans?
@moparman72rr
@moparman72rr 2 ай бұрын
Nope!
@lesstyranny2695
@lesstyranny2695 2 ай бұрын
Manual trans and boost don't bode well together...
@dalefreeman2124
@dalefreeman2124 2 ай бұрын
Hay, can I just have your Demon? 😂. I think I'd look cool in it 😂
@BrendenBaker30
@BrendenBaker30 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, Racer X. Most people don't care how fast it is. Even me, I still will not trade my car or buy the new Charger. It's not very appealing to me because the whole point of a muscle car is the Hemi V8. These are not muscle cars in my opinion.
@turnerruma5977
@turnerruma5977 2 ай бұрын
The Cummins 6.7L is an Inline engine and it’s awesome.
@eraanmcmicken-hi1dq
@eraanmcmicken-hi1dq 2 ай бұрын
He said aerodynamic with a straight face sitting on that brick 🤣🤣🤣
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