Few in all of Asia really.

Well, it is true, westerners cried more than other asians when the bombs fall.

I disagree that it was sinister. Cold maybe, but sinister?

Asia hates Asia more than anyone else

His statements were true, though. Most of Imperial Japan's colonies, should I say, rejoiced when Hiroshima and Nagasaki was bombed. It's like "Ha! Totally deserved it" and "Oh no! Anyway..." kind of thing, even today. Most that remembers and learns the past atrocities made by Imperial Japan abhors them (look at South Korea and Japan today) and most choose to forgive them but never forget. It's like "I forgive you for f*cking us up when it was colonized by yours, but we will never ever forget what you guys did." What ticks me today, although I adore Japan and its culture, is that they (their government) try to erase or revise their history in their education system by making them the victims during the war (which is not, in historical case).

A society where gamers don’t rule the world

@@blu_nades we truly do live in a society

rise up

*j o k e r*

what society is the most Gamer?

Never thought a sentence so historically significant could sound so much like a meme

Damn, now if only this was actual history and not just fantasies from sexually frustrated young men

@@boozecruiser The sagas are the Medieval equivalent of a Hollywood movie that's "based on a true story".

@@boozecruiser they were

@@harrym7544 US government did kill MLK.

@@GrigRP That's a conspiracy theory.

He meant shot to death by their society's governments.

@@bigboineptune9567 No, it isn't. We know the FBI had plots to murder him.

He meant never had the platform to speak in the first place.

Thanks for your efforts

Excuse me you dropped this > 👑

I guess modern China took a lot of inspiration from the Qin dinasty, as well as the Soviet Union.

@@randjan8592 Authoritarian tradition is passed down through dynasties, and became part of China's social structure.

@@cassiopesysg5423 that's why their always on civil war

The British one sounded like high praise from a certain point of view (although with caveats).

Lol, he completly ignored south americans again! I'm not sure if this is good or bad...

@@ingold1470 it wasn't the only one. These nations were all exemplifying extreme manifestations of concepts that were arguably virtues, and this getting the benefits of such to extents that are all but unattainable otherwise, which Is praiseworthy... But at the same time, in so doing they greatly neglected, or outright rejected, the others... With all the inevitable, and often contemptible and/or reprehensible downsides and problems that come from doing so

@@efxnews4776 that was his way of roasting them

@@cerridianempire1653 lmao

That’s sorta the problem lol

Basically

Poland: O Shit

I feel that's a good way to explain it, today's society in the west is progressively more and more unable to distinguish between feeling attacked and actually being attacked.

What is the West?

This!

The vast majority of people agree with pulling the lever though. The interesting part is if we actually do it when presented.

Obviously you pull the lever. Interestingly if say 3 people were in the train cart with none responsible for driving I could see nothing being done.

Super stupid "problem". Unless your true goal is to find out whether someone is either a) a sociopath who actually wants to murder more people or b) really, really weak-willed.

just return the trolley to the supermarket and stop leaving them anywhere and everywhere.

Based on many metrics the world is doing better than it ever has. You're just ignorant and probably young so you don't have anything to compare to.

@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 There is much truth in what you are saying, i.e. the Earth is greening, poverty rates are plummeting, medical tech is near miraculous now AND malthusian pressures are waning as populations either stabilize or recede, but.... many things can be true at once. Whatifalt and many others point out that 2020-2040 are going to be severely turbulent due to water shortages, localized overpopulation, and simultaneous horrible demographics. That said, The 2040's through 2100 should be a good set of decades.

@Louis le Prudent absolutely true. Both geopolitics and demographics can roughly predict what should happen, but can't account for a highly positioned idiot's ability to screw everything up.

Its strangely comforting

@@VARVIS_ I don't find it comforting! How tf am I supposed to appreciate 2056 if I can't survive 2040?

Even about turtles

@@just_a_turtle_chad definitely about turtles

He started writing a historical fiction novel and made it pretty far, but pretty sure he quit on it

@@emtee9057 ues

@@just_a_turtle_chad Especially about turtles.

Oh definitely. Pretend I want to be a crazy country. I wouldn't want to be next to a bunch of neighbors who could call me out or stop me. Geographical isolation is good. I think there's a bit more as well -- If there's shared cultural values with other places, you'll also have that extra eye watching over that, and they'll get mad if you try to destroy the values. And another, language. If you speak the same language, it's really easy for them to express some kind of disagreement. If your language is super different, it's harder to communicate. And holy crap--language isolates, on the other hand, where NO language is like yours, allows for much more extreme situations I think. Japan. Checks all three boxes and is a language isolate. Iceland checks the boxes. Idk if there's more, feel free to add onto what I'm saying

What about China?

@@Berserker3624 China- Desert to the west, Siberia to the north, ocean to the east, jungle to the south. Maybe it kinda works? Though I'm not really sure it functions as an island especially with people living in 3/4 of those areas I named

@@ihaveseverefrootsnackism no I was saying that a counter to what the guy said

@@Berserker3624 o ok

This has probably happened in some form countless times but I guess it worked that one time. Wait I think same happened with napoleon.

Hearing someone say chad in a completely serious and academic matter is definitely something new.

Truly it is the new way to describe manliness

@@bluewatson4341 Which is not a good thing though.

@@ricaard6959The perfect representation of Chad is supposed to be aristocratic in the purest sense. He is strong but doesn't use his strength for bad. He is someone you can trust and he pulls the whole world up. Chad is someone we should all strive to be more like. Chad is the overman, he is a bit like modern Jesus.

@@Perrirodan1 oh, well as far as I know "Chad" was the name given to men with sexual prowess, so I thought the use of that to describe masculinity, would be bad because of a multitude of reasons, I mean, I agree with what you're saying, we should all strive to be the best men we can possibly become, but to use that word, (which came to be from, well you know where it came from), wouldn't that take away the whole point of it, I mean if you're doing that, why not Peter(Spiderman) or Ben or something, I don't know, but Chad, it ain't cool, it originates from something which makes me ashamed of calling myself a man. I don't know, maybe I'm missing the point, is it supposed to be ironic or...? I'm not an original English speaker but I hope you get why I don't like the use of Chad to describe manliness.

I think they're all factors in the equation used to assess what a society will/can do.

More technology, less religion is a good thing Had the Industrial Revolition happened during the time of Ancient Greece Humanity would be in a much better place

@@christiandauz3742 bruh

@@christiandauz3742 bruh

I think social studies is the right term

To much liberty is bad look what happened to ice land or more prevent look at America that place is a shit hole of insane outcasts wanting to reshape the world into their sick version of ‘inclusion’

@Awe Sean uhhh ok…but I do advocate for imperialism…just read my other comments…besides better than calling myself something dumb “Awe Sean” or something…

@@Berserker3624 >be me >british imperial larper >travel back in time to 19th century England >has to work 18 hours a day in a workhouse so your boss can make more money >dies of starvation because you get injured at work and can't make any money >tfw you think the british empire was a good thing

@@BONK_2000 yeah it was. Anyway better than your socity of safety. "OhHoHoHo poooooooor bAbY you stubbed yOuR ToE dO yOu NeEd Me To dRiVe you ThE hOsPiTaL???" Yeah fuck your world I'd rather live in a hard filling life style than life that sad world.

@@Berserker3624 even broke your shin

That's basically the gist of what he was saying: bending the rules was certain death.

Always hitting us up

plenty of typos and over generalizations

I just liked Bc of your background

@@calebhalder1064 Yes couldn’t have picked a better one for my Politics based Channel.

For a "historian" he sure loves to use the non-historian definition of communism.

yes

Sounds like being colonized by france, selling minerals cheap for food, deserts, poorness, starvation, drought

@@rahimeozsoy4244 And having your president die in a battlefield

Um, there's already a country called Chad in Africa...

@@rahimeozsoy4244 france never even set foot on iceland? you pulling shit out of your ass?

I actually agree with this. Victorian Britain was definitely not fair, but it was merit based.

Definitely agree he’s just using the same names for moral foundations as the book the video is based

Agreed

Some of which I’ve heard before

@@johnl.7754 Obviously, this stuff couldn't be worked out and throughout by one person in one or two months. Just the fact that he is able to put all this together is impressive enough.

I wish my brain would work as fast as his mouth. By the time I comprehend one statement of gold, I missed 3 others

One of my favourite content creators, he covers fascinatingly interesting topics

Thank you!!

Thanks a lot...

commenting for visibility

Thanks

You are a god amongst men thank you

plz do

that's literally the same as this video.....

Harm = societies strong on authority, purity and loyality

Got the reference XD

The Ancaps are gonna make us some cash The Nazis are gonna bring the fash The Ancoms are gonna let us get along The Commies are gonna sing sick songs

@@deleteduser1877 yeah as a centrist libertarian I generally have respect for my ancom and ancap brethren until I actually interact with them

@@deleteduser1877 fuckin weirdos. "Liberty, but not for the people we don't like."

Jreg and all of the middle schoolers in this thread who haven’t seen sunlight since last November are all edgy losers

I grew up in the very wealthy and waspy Montgomery County, Maryland. It didn't really become a thing until the late 2000s and early 2010s. When I was in elementary school (graduated 5th grade in 2008), kids playing outside unsupervised for hours at a time, even at age 5 or 6 was still normal.

It's mostly a thing in middle/upper middle class suburbia

That idea seems to stem from the idea of innocence which is supposed to mark your childhood with the idea being that the time between your birth and adolescence is very precious.

In Eastern Europe there were maniacs and kidnappers who sold kids for organs or to use for sexual slavery/human trafficking in 90s/00s. Still kids played outside. But every kid knew the rules - don’t speak with unknown adults, don’t approach cars, don’t accept any treat, food or drink from a stranger.

I think its more than just fear of getting kidnapped, though that's a factor. Video games make it easier to stay inside and out from under foot of parents. Not saying video games are bad, just a factor

The German Japanese Alliance that created the Axis was less an Alliance and more of lets do things together and not actually coordinate.

​@@forickgrimaldus8301I believe it was in fact the familiarity of the Slavs which makes his hatred of them seem quite natural. As the Japanese were so far away, they had done nothing as to arouse the anger of the Germans, who being a militaristic culture, valued the Japanese's apparent millitary prowess, considering they were rapidly forming an empire at the time. It makes quite a lot of sense, considering.

@Octavius "Why latin America, he skipped a lot of other places because of a lack of extreme large societies" could be one interpretation

Latin america is included in the western world so he did talk about it

@Octavius i don't think it has anything to do with english or germany but with the western civilization and it's pillars who created it which would be the Roman law, Greek Philosophy and Judeo-christian values. All 3 the basis of Latin america, the christian one being more present than in Europe and the US! Therefore i would also include the orthodox countries without a doubt such as Russia as part of the west. The thing is the average american thinks on the west as a synonym for NATO or something which is incorrect. I would not include the countries that adopted the concepts of western civilization (most only some aspects) later on such as Japan as western country for example though

@@freddy4603 Well if we say Latin America is not part of the west, but Australia and New Zealand are, then there's not too many places that aren't talked about here. The West gives us all of Europe, Wahhabism gives us the middle east plus north Africa. Even India was mentioned under British Raj. All of China was counted too. The only major regions not covered are Latin America, south Africa (as in the Southern half of the continent and not the country), central Asia and South East Asia. Southern Africa is the only one of those regions really comparable to Latin America (of course Wahhabism doesn't come nearly close to covering all of the Northern part of Africa, but Africa was still brought up in the video).

@@Jotari I approve of this message and have no objections

I beg to differ. The videos seem to match a lot of the descriptors of the fast money KZfaq analytics channel. Also, he never lists any sources.

@@blondemario good point about sources! Sources are most important!

@@blondemario That’s not true, he lists sources in the form of books constantly.

tabletop rpgs are massive cringe

@@pollall2793 Ikr, what kind of loser still uses the internet for information XD

Good song fun comment section kzfaq.info/get/bejne/irRiaMqZ0MzLgXU.html

+1. Sounds like meritocratic and innovation seeking "ignore the insane old field marshal" talk to me.

Politics

Gotta yank up the ladder behind you!

*Shogun

That was toyotomi Hideyoshi

@Skulmaster You're right

Last time I was this early, these memes weren't beaten to death like a dead horse.

@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 wow calling memes dead is so original and not under every such comment, congratulations on being exactly like him.

What type of roman

@@stahleis "the only way to be be correct is to be 100% original"

😂

A funcionado hasta ahora

Mandioca

Siempre funciona

Sociedade baseada em se esconder. kkkkkkk

Somebody translate for this poor english speaking boi :(

You have a choice between unhealthy prosperity in the West and healthy (or as healthy as a post-Communist country can be...) poverty in the East.

Fandyus, I agree, the same thing happens in Poland. But I think being on the frontier, the outskirts, these kinds of countries always retain some kind of individuality - as things change in the centre (USA, China). As long as you have people (for example, among my circles, essentially everyone agrees that it's fucked up) saying and thinking that it is wrong; eventually, society will take a new form.

@@greywolf7577 There is no fascism in Poland, nor in the World. The ruling party is not any more or less corrupted than the party before that, it's just that this time the scandals are nationalistic/ideologic in nature (which led to lots of political people in Europe to talk about that in order to fuel the nazi paranoia in their respective societies). Freedom of speech and the Judges were always a target here, to expand the state's power (in other words, it's something each prime minister slowly worked towards) but not in any way that would mean we are somehow "not free" or fascist. Do your research beyond reading an article from something like the Guardian.

Why not Russia? Anything the west does Russia naturally wants to the exact other thing.

​@Patrick Ellis Pis is ideologically nationalistic and economically socialist. Using the Left and Right-wing rhetoric is absurd, essentially every party in our nation (and in most of the others) is on the Left side of the spectrum because their economical ideas are the most important part, not the ideological ones. Their "believes" are there to get the votes, but their "plans" involve almost only rising the taxes and preparing new social support - doesn't sound like something a Libertarian or capitalistic government would do, right? There are no "ultranationalistic" tendencies, what is that even supposed to mean? They are pushing to expand their power, that's that. Were the regulations after 9/11 "ultranationalistic" or were the reforms after The Great Crisis "ultranationalistic" or maybe "ultrapatriotic"? You see why this is absurd. Just adding the word "ultra" and hoping that it will all make sense seems like something a primary school student would do. Fascism is a political ideology - just decreasing the liberties of your population doesn't make you a fascist, that would mean for example Americans are living in the Nazi state since II World War, because of their Presidents decreasing their independence and power. Saying someone is fascist or authoritarian or populist are just distractions. The only thing that matters is their economical plan (as politics are just an extension of economics). And Pis's plan is very left-wing, so I really can't find a single point in your argument. Last point: people in Poland don't really care, at least most of them, about being Western or Eastern. The country is run by a clique leftover from the times Communists controlled everything. Western societies appear to have the ambition to inspire us (and others like us) to be enlightened and kind people of tolerance - which essentially caused this society to completely reject that. Everybody here saw how Western media took the photos of our Independence March a few years ago to show that we are full of fascists - but now they took the same photos to show how much we hate our fascist government. The point being - focus on your own problems, the West ruined the world in the last 50 years, fucked up our relations with Russia, caused China to become the new USSR, obliterated any trace of reason from the Middle East, formed the almost international welfare state that can only exist as long as we are rich and exploiting any strategic resource we can find. Your words say one thing, but your hands are in my pockets. People here are disillusioned with your western bullshit, that is why it went so far that Pis managed to land almost 20% of support in the population. It was a signal to Germany, France and England and USA and Russia and China, that Poland can ditch European Union if they are pushed too far. It was a diplomatic threat, not a rise of Nazism. Again: do your research. Stop treating us like children that don't know the enlightened ways of democracy. We had democracy hundreds of years before any of you, we know how to handle it.

Virgin China Uncesored who wants to CCP fall apart because they are evil vs Chad Me who wants to see them last long so we can see all the horrors they are able to do

@@janvancura8412 Extreme societes don't last long

@@1000eau Luckely you are right but they can do horors before they die

Xi Jinping likes this, probably.

@@janvancura8412 so at the end of all societies they just delve into depravity and hell because, why not?

based

Bruh why did you leave? Just wait until you were done talking to her to watch the video. It’s kinda rude to just leave in the middle of a conversation.

@@ryanb1388 really though, treat others how you want to be treated

Based

My man has his priorities straight.

And we had to pay for that mistake for 700 years, rest assured we won't be making it again.

Lol I agree with him more than most people I listen to

Out of all the things I've seen in his channel there are only like 2 or 3 things i disagree on

What are you on about?

yeah he is wrong about almost everything but no one else does this

He is very pro liberal in his way of thinking. Modern world shows without any doubt that liberalism is bad. He thinks democracy is good which is a ref flag already that he cannot break out the 20fh century mindset.

Same lol

same

at least you'll have some sweet, historical information to talk about, lol

They’re not really rational though. They’re just his personal views without an actual understanding of history or how those movements began.

@@hueyg206 what is your understanding of it?

@@ihaveseverefrootsnackism he sweeps over tons of relevant information and clearly he doesn’t actually know very much about recent history.

@@hueyg206 ok then debunk one thing he say's, can't wait to hear your views

@@hueyg206 guaranteed you're some offended tankie or fash imperialist

N.

Last time I was this early, it was to one of my own videos.

That would be a nightmare on so many levels. Let's do it

Would probably be a tribal society of some kind.

I would like Radical Neutrality like the Swiss please

@Bolshevik Breaker Yes 😎

Funny how Authority and Liberty are opposites

does he stop you guys from "dancing" :D

They weren't executed by the government which was point whatifalist was making. Both were jailed multiple times but never killed.

@@andrewlechner6343 MLK wasn’t just jailed, he was also spied on, and if I remember right the FBI tried to get him to kill himself.

@@xman4399 but they didn't take him into the woods and put a bullet in his head. That is what would have happened in most countries in history.

@@andrewlechner6343 nah they just did on a balcony of a motel.

@@Skittnator is they wanted him dead they’d have done many years before easily long before the civil rights movement got any traction. In most societies any perceived subversive threat like that would be eliminated immediately without question and would happily do so in any other time or place

Good old times

@fuqc goggul I am, he helped me get into Glantz, Mark, Stahel and all the rest. WW2 really does not reward a cursory glance. A lot of the preconceptions I held were wrong until I started reading in detail

I agree 100%

Well, socialism as a concept is more tied to the mutual-aid based societies derived from the writings of Kropotkin, so it actually is more of a community built around helping eachother and benefiting those who help the most through social connection. In otherwords, it technically does both. You're idea of socialism is just clouded by the split between the factions of Marx and Bakunin that resulted in the Marxist sect focusing on capitalism and authoritarianism as tools that could be used to achieve socialism

@@space1546 TALK TO THEM

@@benjaminbaki1758 ???

Agreed. I generally agree with JP but sometimes he gets kind of off the rails with the Biblical mythology stuff. It sounds like he took too many psychedelics and has a case of academic pareidolia.

Democracy is balanced. Elites get to lead. Conservative and Liberalism is maintained.

@@CountingStars333 I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or actually believe that

Better than no votes at all.

@liam Anderson That's like saying, "Alright fellas, we have the steam engine, the best machine ever created up until the present day, let's never improve on it or invent anything better ever again." If there are flaws in the system, they ought to be fixed. Anything else is defeatist.

@liam Anderson it's one of the worst systems ever invented crumbling and failing to last a measly 200 hundred years, a system as unstable and petty as communism itself

The truth is cold, grim, and unpleasant But it's still truth nonetheless

it took 1 general to permit, 1 man to pilot a plane, and one to release a bomb thats 200k deaths caused by these 3 man it needed an entire garison at Nanking to kill as much we arent feeling sad for them, we are feeling scared of the sheer power of what it took about 3 man to kill hundreds of thousands

@@mrdoot0730 The huge effort to build the bomb is crazy. Over 100,000 were involved in it's development... but most didn't know it. As a side note I think it would have taken about 50 more nukes to equal the death that Japan inflicted on China. 10+ million

@@elrond3737 i agree that japan warcrimes are worse then the nukes, but what im saying is that what we talk about aint the warcrime part, is the nuke part, seeing a nuclear bomb decimate everything is really scary

@@mrdoot0730 nukes scare me. I remember being a kid during the cold war. I used to have nightmares about nuclear war

Ah yes, 100K and underated

I just wish more people watched his content

Yeah what a great crime, a channel not having unreasonable amounts of views. Name seems to be program here

@@man-o-arizona5166 nah, most people prefer stupid things, rap, minecraft

@@ortherner well, underrated means "below how it should be rated". 100K is a lot but I think we can all agree that it should be higher!

Especially in America.

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower I’d be so down to see that

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower Maybe Night City like in Cyberpunk 2077?

He kind of has done that in "countries that will collapse", where he talked about borders changing and stuff.

@@demun6065 that aint the same tho

Brain dead centrist

I believe he meant that if had been anywhere else he'd have been assassinated before his voice got national attention. Your point is still valid though lol

@@kojoarmah3915 The FBI tried to blackmail and taped him. So escalation of violence step by step.

@@theeasyway9432 hey. I just checked and there is more then heathly brain activity in his head. Btw since your mad at him for 1. Saying fact 2. Being a centrist i can guess that your either a libtard, stalinist, or nazi. Which is it?

@@cia8176 He's probably just a Jreg fan.

Ma' man got out of a hangover just to make video for us, Now he can sleep quietly until next video which probably would be in June...

This is not a criticism on the video as a whole, as I really enjoyed most of it. And your statements on contemporary culture and sociology have immense merit - for example earlier notes on academia being a center division for politics. Some examples and though tend to be extreme, and undermine the overall message.

When he said “They would be shot,” he meant by the government

@@jwil4286 The US Government DID shoot MLK. And JFK.

@@jwil4286 guess who shot MLK

@@lucasm7781 James Earl Ray shot him. And the conspiracy theory that the FBI had him shot is rather flimsy. The court case in which they were awarded money was rather sketchy, as the defendants were not named, and so couldn't defend themselves. Is it possible that the FBI had him shot? Yes. But there is still plenty of room for reasonable doubt.

They proved his point by getting triggered...

@@Alejoblocks when west falls one of two things will happen, one will be that the west will reverent back to its fairness values, the other is that the west will completely collapse and China will be free to what it wants do becuase the balance of power has shifted form the west to the east. Chinese hegemony will(most likely) last for 300 to 400 years before the Europe(not the west) takes back the throne of power.

sjws are the scum of the earth. hurt people hurting people is all they are. projecting their insecurities upon others for a momentary sense of satisfaction when in actuality all of them lead depressing, unfulfilling lives and their only method of coping is by projecting their hilariously false ideologies upon others and calling them bigoted for laughing at their sheer stupidity and lack of education on basic constructs of out western world.

"All people are equal, but some are more equal than other"

I think generally, altruist exists in abundance between individuals, but is almost non-existent in modern collectives. Most people would happily help their family or their friends - or even a stranger that they've just met without requiring much in the way of recompense provided what they have is a human interaction. In a small society it's easy to see how helping another could work it's way back to you (e.g. the blacksmith sharpens the lumberjack's axe, the lumberjack cuts down trees that the charcoal burners turn into fuel for the blacksmith) but the moment you no longer see the benefit because the benefit is spread too thinly among too many people, altruism looses much of it's appeal and can feel like exploitation instead. In a world where most nations have populations in the millions with a few in the billions, it's easy to loose sight of the importance of your actions and think that improving the world is someone else's job, while relegating those you haven't met to the level of concept in order to make going about your daily life easier - not obsessing over the tragedies of the world.

“Altruism” doesn’t *fucking* exist, ( _or to me, it seems like it doesn’t,_ ) the whole idea of “do Good but don’t expect a reward” is literally unlike Humans. Humans are like dogs in a way: they want something back (the Pavlov kinda situation), and it makes _sense_ because every fucking thing is _quid pro quo,_ just like the idea that “there’s no such thing as a free lunch.” If Altruism really did exist, I bet we’d be living in some sorta Communist-socialist (Collectivist) society. America (and most of the world, mind you) is *HEAVILY* individualistic to the point of Egotism; they only care about themselves and theirs - “Look out for Number One,” essentially.

@@fduranthesee Altruism does exist (or at least, it does with me) as I absolutely have done nice things for other people without any expectation of seeing them again - let alone being rewarded for it. Also, the point of Pavlov is using positive reinforcement to a behaviour until the behaviour itself is it's own reward (essentially training the dopamine receptors to respond to a particular behaviour), so I guess you could say that it could 'train' altruism, but even then that's not strictly neccessary as there's plenty of evidence for self-sacrifice (e.g. the stereotypical soldier throwing themself on a grenade) which is the ultimate form of altruism; there can be no reward when you're dead. As for communism/socialism, the biggest issue with them is that it makes altruism an obligation and expectation rather than a choice - in the same way you might think of say, washing the dishes while at a friends house to help them out, but if they start *ordering* you to wash their dishes then it's suddenly not okay unless there's some form of recompense.

Nah, we need to go back to regional powers and a balanced world order. Competition is the essence of progress.

@@ThatCrazyKid0007 a balanced world order would require Europe to shed their incredible fear of harm and start competing with the US economically, technologically, culturally, and militarily. In all these respects Europe is far in the dust.

@@ThatCrazyKid0007, the idea a nation or block would stop pursuing hegemony so they could have more competition, which drives progress through the pursuit for hegemony, is completely backwards.

True

Not likely in my opinion. Remember that at the end of the day SJ society mainly consists of capitalists who want to sell you something.

People hound on the 'social justice movement' but ultimately I think that it is doing far more good than harm. There seems to be a pattern when it comes to social justice movements in the 20th/21st centuries. First people whine and moan incessantly about the social justice advocates and the issues they bring up. For example, people whined about the advocates fighting to decriminalize gay sex incessantly during the 1960s and 1970s. They also griped about the advocates fighting to legalize gay marriage in the 1990s and 2000s. And when feminists demanded basic legal and political equality in the 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s, they provoked a bitter backlash. Then the changes advocated by these 'social justice warriors' get implemented. Soon, the changes that they fought for become seen as normal and are taken for granted. We now take it for granted to gay sex should be legal. We take it for granted that black people should have the right to vote. We take it for granted that women should have the right to vote, unimpeded access to birth control, the freedom to engage in politics, and the right to not be discriminated against in the workplace. We now more or less take it for granted (in Western societies) that gay people should have the right to marry. Now advocates are fighting to limit police brutality, which is disproportionately targeted towards black people. Now advocates are fighting to limit sexual harassment in the workplace. Now advocates are fighting to end the brutal stigmatization of transgender people. And people are furious -- just like they were when advocates fought for women's suffrage, the legalization of gay sex, and gay marriage. The incessant whining and moaning about contemporary social justice movements seems to me to be part of a pattern of blind backlash against social justice advocacy. Are some social justice advocates morons? Of course. Do some social justice advocates come up with silly ideas that should be disregarded? Absolutely. But this has always been the case with social justice advocacy. Some advocates will be stupid and some ideas proposed by these advocates will be stupid. But does it make sense to throw out the baby with the bathwater? Does it make sense to malign all contemporary social justice movements as 'mainly consisting of capitalists,' as kasra khatir said in his response? Does it make sense to condemn contemporary social justice advocacy as a whole when these social justice advocates actually have many good ideas?

@@noahkidd3359 I think they social justice movement has gotten worse over the years. At first they were fighting for rights large parts of population using nonviolent protest. The movement to get women the right to vote is the best example of this. But as time has gone on they are getting more annoying and extreme for the average person. The best example of this are the differences between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd wave feminists. While each wave has fought for different rights for women, 3rd wave feminism has become a turnoff for even larger segments of the population than the first 2 waves. It also doesn't help that some things the fight for are largely already solved or nonexistent. There also the problem of intersectionality, which makes the movement act hypocritical due to the different values of different minorities. I believe the movement still has some worth but it has reform before gets any worse which many people already believe it has.

@@noahkidd3359 very true. I just wonder how fair and equal they can make society before then advocating for communism. Which I have began to see increasingly

@@andrewlechner6343 Ever since the very first protests for universal suffrage, there were multiple sides to it. There were suffragists who wanted to achieve their goals through peaceful means, discussion, education and argument, and there were suffragettes that were militant and took protests to much further lengths, frequently breaking the law. They were arrested and still protested in jail. There's a line that can be drawn, where property-owning women were more likely to call for peaceful means, while working-class women were more likely to be militant and law-breaking. It's not absolute, but it represents majorities in each group. The world revolves (and revolved) around money and property, so naturally those with property will be less directly affected by issues such as these, and are more likely to be less comitted to action or result. Not to discredit comitment of anybody, because one can be very comitted to peaceful change, but it's much easier to abandon a peaceful comitment than a violent one, should the consequences start to reer their heads. Violence and law-breaking actions have been a part of protests since the very beginning, even the feminist protests. They weren't outside agitators or bad apples among the good ones. They were and have been integral parts of the movements that sustain the presence of peaceful actors.