The $700 LEGO Technic monster - 42146 Liebherr LR 13000 detailed building review part 1

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After the long weeks of waiting, my first video about the LEGO Technic 42146 Liebherr LR 13000 is finally here! You can see all the new parts, the interesting details of the building process, the final result, all the features of the app and much more!
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@RacingBrick
@RacingBrick 9 ай бұрын
Click here for the LEGO product page page - racingbrick.com/product/42146-2/
@RJ1.
@RJ1. 9 ай бұрын
hi
@alexwarren5447
@alexwarren5447 9 ай бұрын
700 I gotta pay 1050 😢
@Tamima27f
@Tamima27f 9 ай бұрын
@@alexwarren5447depends on which country currency he uses
@Gzilla313
@Gzilla313 9 ай бұрын
This set feels like one of the few times where the 18+ age rating is truly justified.
@mcdswifi
@mcdswifi 9 ай бұрын
Yes.
@1403gavin
@1403gavin 9 ай бұрын
The 18+ rating means minimum age to afford it 😂 Thanks For Over 100 Likes Now My Like Button Is Too Old To Play With Lego
@Glegh
@Glegh 9 ай бұрын
​@@1403gavin 35+
@Mcneds
@Mcneds 9 ай бұрын
​@@1403gavinwas about to comment this lol
@sirhamalot110
@sirhamalot110 9 ай бұрын
very true. most of the cars in the lineup (those and trains are the only things i’m interested in from TLG nowadays) that are 18+ i would have loved when i was 12-14. i think this one almost takes some appreciation of modern engineering to fully enjoy the build.
@h734802
@h734802 9 ай бұрын
Each crane has a lifting diagram (in the cabin also). If you check a real one, that might have incredible low lifting weight capacity in flat angles. If you make a linear calculation: 1) 1 dimension ratio to the weight; 2) rational weight difference (because it is made of plastic). Then you can get how much the lego version should lift in what angle
@musictolive4
@musictolive4 9 ай бұрын
I am a crane driver and enthousiast myself. And I know a view things of the real crane. I know that it can lift 660 (metric)tons at a distance of 100 metres. So the real crane is quite a beast!
@h734802
@h734802 9 ай бұрын
@@musictolive4 can you search the lifting diagram of the crane config in question? I'm lazy.
@mephInc
@mephInc 7 ай бұрын
Liebherr has the load charts in pdf for free on their site.
@Raelhorn
@Raelhorn 9 ай бұрын
The more I look into this set, it looks like what really happened is that Lego ran into some real engineering problems and materials limitations while designing this set. It's novel and impressive looking, but I can't help but wonder if the noticeable changes from the real thing are simply because they couldn't find a half-decent way to build this set and still have it be more or less "functional". They probably could have resolved the issue with more new parts... but that would turn this set into a sunk-cost monstrosity (for Lego). To point out an easy difference, the lack of counterweights on the back of crane's main body. I think this would have resulted in the body not balancing well on the central ring. It could have also become too heavy to turn around. Similarly, the tracks dancing around with the top spins means that the tracks are simply too light. Which means bigger tracks (perhaps even a double-track system)... and stronger/more motors to turn everything. Issues like these keep cropping up, and before long you find out the biggest limiting factor is that you're working with plastic and not steel. And I wouldn't be surprised if the crane model mentioned was the original intent for this set... and simply didn't work, resulting in a scaled back but still very functional version of a crawler crane. And for anyone who has been around cranes... seeing the tracks lift off the ground *AT ALL* is a terrifying sight. The guys running the excavators might have fun doing that, but you never see that with the cranes. Luckily, this is just Lego. To comment on the price? It's definitely too much, and I think the price is intentionally inflated to cover the bigger than anticipated design costs along and to offset the expected lower sales. While the price appears to be the biggest complaint, the other issues with the set would have inevitably come to light. I think Lego is expecting only the most dedicated and die-hard fans to get this one, and are bumping the price in an attempt to off-set the already incurred costs during the design phase. I think this is definitely not a "price per piece" issue so much as it ended up being a much bigger design cost. On the bright side, it's very likely that Lego learned quite a few lessons from designing this set, which will go to helping design future sets.
@gertimmons5438
@gertimmons5438 9 ай бұрын
Would of been better off making the lr1600
@GimbleOnDew
@GimbleOnDew 9 ай бұрын
Dont the counterweights extend out? Like the real thing when you add more load or extend the beam out farther?
@andrewlarsen9700
@andrewlarsen9700 9 ай бұрын
Would have been nice to see it they used metal wrapped in plastic counterweights instead, would have added more lifting capacity. Also could account for the much higher price as the counterweights won't get much use in other sets.
@Marvidsen1973
@Marvidsen1973 9 ай бұрын
I very much agree in your assessment 👍🏻🇩🇰
@astranger448
@astranger448 9 ай бұрын
I think their legal department put their foot down. Cranes are very tricky and need very skilled operators assisted by loads of sensors not to tip over. I once built a big Lego crane with regular Lego Technic parts and started fooling around with ever heavier weights and counterweights. All fine and dandy right up to the point the load let go and my crane turned into a trebuchet. The hook came nowhere near my face but with less luck could have taken out an eye. Not something you want to sell nowadays.
@liweiqi215
@liweiqi215 9 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for unraveling this mysterious technic set. Finally it is here and can’t wait for the next episode.
@TheDethsight
@TheDethsight 9 ай бұрын
definitely impressive to see. i'd like to see a "death match" against this and the Liebherr excavator and the rough terrain crane. would be one for the ages.
@s0k010v
@s0k010v 9 ай бұрын
It would be ok for 300Euros, but the price is insane, and model doesn't really represent the Liebherr LR 13000. Great review, as always!
@nivethofficial
@nivethofficial 9 ай бұрын
It has two hubs and some 3-4 motors. Also bigger stronger pieces, which I think may justify a slightly higher price, maybe 450 ish, there's the Liebherr name used, so that easily adds more value.
@mathieuedde1465
@mathieuedde1465 9 ай бұрын
Actually if you look into it a bit, this configuration is actually used irl, it’s just rare
@romix8340
@romix8340 9 ай бұрын
@@mathieuedde1465not the configuration but the superstructure, tracks and ballast are badly reproduced. The R9800 was very close to reality, it’s sad they didn’t manage to do as good.
@nivethofficial
@nivethofficial 9 ай бұрын
@@romix8340 im no expert when it comes to the level of replications, but i'll take your word
@octoslut
@octoslut 9 ай бұрын
@@nivethofficial well people thought cat was expensive but now it looks like a better deal....
@ItsAndyEast
@ItsAndyEast 9 ай бұрын
This is an insanely good review. I've gotten so burnt out from the typical LEGO review style after over a decade of watching them on KZfaq, but your attention to detail and vast knowledge about what you're talking about is fantastic. Just subscribed, can't wait for future content
@Mekkinsen
@Mekkinsen 8 ай бұрын
The high resistance of the motor at 2:55 is actually a really good idea-in the bucket wheel excavator, the motors needed fresh batteries to have enough torque to even drive the whole system.
@ChrisSV98
@ChrisSV98 9 ай бұрын
Great way to start my morning here in America. Been waiting for this vid all week! Fantastic review and def a set I look forward to saving up for :)
@FASTFPSGAMER
@FASTFPSGAMER 8 ай бұрын
I saw this set today my LEGO shop in the mall. Its a great looking set. Technic is Amazing
@JPOG7TV
@JPOG7TV 9 ай бұрын
This set gives me the same feeling I had when I saw my friend showed me his Lego city crane years ago. I thought it was huge and cool. This is crazier.
@McKrushi
@McKrushi 9 ай бұрын
Life is too short for safety limits :D Thanks for the review. Without talking about the price, it's a very cool set. I wonder how low the hook can go, so you can lift up things from lower than the crane is placed.
@EviGL
@EviGL 9 ай бұрын
Yet it's much shorter without them.
@dazley8021
@dazley8021 9 ай бұрын
@@EviGL beat me to it! :D
@Legomaster58100
@Legomaster58100 9 ай бұрын
@@EviGLwe’re here for a good time not for a long time
@subraxas
@subraxas 9 ай бұрын
"Life is too short for safety limits." You sound like Stockton Rush. 😀 😛
@bailey.nt86
@bailey.nt86 6 ай бұрын
This crane is at my work right now. Like the real one 😂 it's mind boggling how massive it truly is irl. I'm 6'1. The top of my head is not even as tall as to the top of the front wheel. It's truly an amazing machine. The ballast weights are ridiculously huge.
@brickXperiments
@brickXperiments 9 ай бұрын
as seen so far: had way more building and "playing" fun with the 42082 for about a quarter of the price - but wouldn't be the first time your final review would change my mind 🤠
@notawesomebread
@notawesomebread 9 ай бұрын
we're getting ever so closer to the inevitable $1k set :D
@julianf6034
@julianf6034 9 ай бұрын
Great review as always! I wonder how it would fare with heavier counterweights. I know lego has to include them for the sake of it, but I can't help but feel like it would have been significantly cheaper and more effective if it was just left to the buyer. You'll probably touch on this in part 2!
@craneguy6636
@craneguy6636 9 ай бұрын
Great Review, have been waiting for this video for ages now! Would be really nice to see how it looks in other configurations, maybe one long main boom?
@MishkaTerminator
@MishkaTerminator 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, as usually - amazing job!
@MicahPotts
@MicahPotts 9 ай бұрын
I wasn't even considering this before, but I suddenly want it now!
@liamaston6545
@liamaston6545 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant review Balazs! 🥳 Yes, the first thing that came to mind when seeing the set was that the counterweight would not be enough. I would imagine if there was another counterweight far back on the ground (akin to the 'real' LR13000) then the lifting capacity would be improved. (Although structural stress and bending will have to be factored in.) 🤔
@tafana
@tafana 8 ай бұрын
yeah, it needs a derrick ballast, without it it looks like a lr1500 or something.
@brianwa1982
@brianwa1982 9 ай бұрын
Lol, the beginning of your video was funny with the crane tipping over and the old guy tipping over. Awesome start, just that alone would get people to start watching. Love your videos and I'm looking forward to building this set, I pre-ordered when it was up for Pre-order on the USA Lego website. As you said, it does turn a little too fast, the Rough Terrain Crane was better about turning at a slower realistic speed.
@DonutDrawsStuff
@DonutDrawsStuff 9 ай бұрын
It's finally here! Let's goooo
@ZEROBRICKS
@ZEROBRICKS 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the partial review. - I would love to see more info about the new parts such as the new spools. - What's the maximum load you can lift when the arm is positioned as horizontal as possible. - Does the type (especially weight) of batteries used in the top battery box affect the crane's's ability to measure load.
@robl39
@robl39 9 ай бұрын
This is the building review, I bet he’ll do a very thorough walk through on the functional perspective.
@Metalizer
@Metalizer 9 ай бұрын
woah what a behemoth. I think I would have to leave my room and live somewhere else to accomodate that beast xD
@yzzispizarro9828
@yzzispizarro9828 7 ай бұрын
Am glad that they at least numbered their bags, unlike some other technic sets
@rubenramos-wp4nw
@rubenramos-wp4nw 9 ай бұрын
As a crane operator omin real life i HAVE to get this set as it fills me with joy😍
@NicolasSaudemont
@NicolasSaudemont 9 ай бұрын
I don't know much about crane, but I was expecting the counterweights to be moved further back in order to compensate for heavy loads. At first, I thought that would be linked to the overload detector (either by a motor, or just geometry with a shaft pulling/pushing them away from the center of gravity. That could be a customisation theme for a MOC based on this model.
@Al828282
@Al828282 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing!
@torinstorkey
@torinstorkey 9 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see someone increase the counterweight and the top boom length. Would make it look much more like the real crane. I wonder how well it would hold up?
@is4737
@is4737 9 ай бұрын
Wow! What a big monster you have there!! 😀😀
@magnumsalyer
@magnumsalyer 9 ай бұрын
Very helpful review! I would like to see you attach a weight to the end and then spin the crane around 360° like it's swinging a wrecking ball
@mkprofessionalism
@mkprofessionalism 9 ай бұрын
Incredibly cool this set!!!😊
@ristopoho824
@ristopoho824 9 ай бұрын
I enjoy the box being that shape. It's tall. Which is the main feature of the model too. Yea it's a dang nice model of a real workhorse. But dang it's tall.
@Al828282
@Al828282 9 ай бұрын
I was expecting the counterweights to swing out when a heavier load is lifted, maintaining balance. I wonder how long it will be until a video is posted where someone makes the booms longer. I plan on buying this set.
@vegasgamedude4379
@vegasgamedude4379 9 ай бұрын
Price is simply outrageous. Lego is definitely charging way too much for this. Thanks for the review.
@NiklasOjas
@NiklasOjas 9 ай бұрын
I find it crazy… the price is a problem but the set itself is aswell… I guess at some price I would overlook everything and buy it but that wouldn’t change the fact that the set itself is absolutely trash.
@mt8385
@mt8385 8 ай бұрын
Thats not a review, it's an ad. Quite pointless, they pay him cheap money and he makes a whole ad for them in reward
@terryakuna66
@terryakuna66 6 ай бұрын
True! Which is why Lego has become the largest toy company in the world surpassing Hasbro, Mattel, & Bandai ..... and profits.
@straightkushin977
@straightkushin977 4 ай бұрын
​@NiklasOjas I like this set, but I feel like a $500 price is warranted. $700 is insane, I'd rather buy the other leibherr excavator for $800 (the retired one) . And even then, I'm paying the retired price, but it's at least somewhat justified vs. this abomination.
@trusterracing6185
@trusterracing6185 3 ай бұрын
It's a crazy insane price, but I still want it lol!!
@banshee1322
@banshee1322 9 ай бұрын
Will I buy this? No. Did I watch the entire video? Yes.
@kevinyoung9557
@kevinyoung9557 9 ай бұрын
It's a beautiful looking piece.
@user-sl3ip8er4i
@user-sl3ip8er4i 6 ай бұрын
NICE! thanks for the cool video
@robl39
@robl39 9 ай бұрын
Great review as always
@henrykeyaerts241
@henrykeyaerts241 9 ай бұрын
Finally!! ❤
@joelbradley5198
@joelbradley5198 6 ай бұрын
It's functioning just like an actual crane would behave. Of course you can't pick out of chart at that radius. Also, the button that let's you override the safety features is also present in real cranes, "turning the keys."
@freerideaddicts4943
@freerideaddicts4943 9 ай бұрын
I have just assembled these models and I think that I should release a kit for sale to improve the length of the two feathers, increase the counterweights and improve the strength of the motors. lego would have to add for that price some accessory like a container or something similar to be able to use it with the crane.
@andreluisstahl
@andreluisstahl 8 ай бұрын
So impressive and nice!
@nikadvali1304
@nikadvali1304 9 ай бұрын
Love it!
@user-rk5wb7ep1h
@user-rk5wb7ep1h 9 ай бұрын
AMAZING
@WimvdBrink
@WimvdBrink 9 ай бұрын
Already pre ordered this for a bit less as the suggested price, it looks huge and fun and fits into the line of other cranes I already have, will be room for some expansion I think, great review as always, fun to see it extended the photo boot :-D
@ameunier41
@ameunier41 9 ай бұрын
The Liebherr have many configuration and the set represent one. Also the counterweight is not heavy enough, I'm curious how it would perform with a custom one.
@DJA7943
@DJA7943 9 ай бұрын
I want this so badly now after seeing it built
@bd-vdwd2139
@bd-vdwd2139 9 ай бұрын
Awesome set ❤
@FriendsOfTheRoad
@FriendsOfTheRoad 9 ай бұрын
I wish lego would do a tower crane in technic
@JaytheEverythingfan
@JaytheEverythingfan 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!!!
@rubyrbx
@rubyrbx 9 ай бұрын
FINALLY
@BestNameCouldThinkOf
@BestNameCouldThinkOf 2 ай бұрын
Re the rotation speed of the superstructure. The speed varies depending on how far left and right you slide the "lever" from the centre point. If you want it to move more slowly, just dont slide the lever as far.
@IanMcGarr
@IanMcGarr 9 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@quicknik107
@quicknik107 9 ай бұрын
Very nice, thank you for this video 🙂
@rezusdanieltudorsLEGOchannel
@rezusdanieltudorsLEGOchannel 9 ай бұрын
Hello! Nice review! Worth the wait! Can you do a load comparason with the big red ?
@vonfragyou
@vonfragyou 9 ай бұрын
Awesome review! Keep up the great content. Thanks!
@0Patroy0
@0Patroy0 9 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for mine which i've preordered and will definitely try to make some extension upgrade to make it look more like a real one :D
@bobbyboyjone2866
@bobbyboyjone2866 9 ай бұрын
Yall commenting, “not the same crane” it is, the lr 13000 comes in diff varieties, lego just did a poor job of sourcing the correct imagine for the crane. And if you dont believe me, THIS EXACT MODEL is on the liebherr page for this conventional crane. Just search lr 13000 jib configuration
@bobbyboyjone2866
@bobbyboyjone2866 9 ай бұрын
However the lack of hanging weights on the rear is not accurate and would completely fix the weight issue. In real life it has about triple the counter weights. Also the boom should be about 8 feet taller to match scaling😅
@unoka1975
@unoka1975 9 ай бұрын
Szia! Szuper videó lett, és köszi szépen a magyar feliratot!
@andriysobol9127
@andriysobol9127 9 ай бұрын
you incorrectly estimated the load capacity of the crane, you need to put the boom completely up and the goose, too, this will give you the opportunity to lift the load directly under you and show the maximum load capacity
@RacingBrick
@RacingBrick 9 ай бұрын
I didn't estimate anything, I simply showed the amount of load and the position when the alert kicks in
@ultralaggerREV1
@ultralaggerREV1 7 ай бұрын
Oh wow, they have the core parts of Technic and include the Lego Spike parts
@loganmadson5465
@loganmadson5465 9 ай бұрын
With how much of a challenge it must have been to get this set to even lift this much, I can't help but think it might have been a good idea to drop most/all of the functionality. The lack of all the counterweights and motors would likely drop the price by a few hundred dollars as well.
@eldercf
@eldercf 6 ай бұрын
I NEED THIS!!!
@parcos79
@parcos79 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE IT..I WANT ONE. OMG
@Disbird
@Disbird 3 ай бұрын
So, if you wanna use the motors for something else is it actually possible or do they only work in this configuration?
@brodakarat6340
@brodakarat6340 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if that counterweight is calculated to be close to the maximum without stressing apart, or if it's possible to replace with more weight
@Caosthereal
@Caosthereal 9 ай бұрын
finally, lego motors dont cry if they have to lift more than spoon
@casperhansen826
@casperhansen826 9 ай бұрын
Would be fun to build from my existing collection, there are a bunch of bricks I don't have, like the motors, the boom bricks and the weight bricks, but I think it won't be too difficult to make some small changes to make it work anyway
@BUILTwithBRICKS.
@BUILTwithBRICKS. 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful lego set!
@pattyg1902
@pattyg1902 9 ай бұрын
I hope Lego never gets rid of their plastic bags they're so useful
@glitchemerald9866
@glitchemerald9866 3 ай бұрын
This video appeared 5 times on my home page so I decided to give it a view
@SaperPl1
@SaperPl1 9 ай бұрын
Will you check what happens if you put 1 kg of sugar or rise on each counterweight platform instead of those counterweights?
@iO-Sci
@iO-Sci 9 ай бұрын
This is unique and vast i never saw this. 뭔가 크고 독특하다
@jawjuk
@jawjuk 9 ай бұрын
Really amazing work! Thank you for your efforts. How low can a load be lowered below grade (i.e. beneath the level of the table the tracks are sitting on)?
@RacingBrick
@RacingBrick 9 ай бұрын
Will test it in the next video
@timpickaname2180
@timpickaname2180 9 ай бұрын
if i could recomend a custom build lego set it would be the 11200 leibherr ltm crane by jeroen ottens design. it costed me $400 for all the parts and the instructions, took me around 3 months to build, and it could reach up to 6 ft into the air! it is an incredible crane and i would love to see you build it!
@dennisruder7668
@dennisruder7668 9 ай бұрын
Hi Balazs, Thank you for another excellent review 👌🏻 If possible, can you show in the next episode if it is possible to lay the boom fully flat As would be 'necessary' in real life when building/erecting the crane. As I understand from your review, per the instructions the crane is built in an upright position
@RacingBrick
@RacingBrick 9 ай бұрын
You mean when it is fully assembled? During building at some point it lays flat, you can see it at 6:34. When it is fully assembled the outmost positing is what you see at 10:36
@user-zi2xd2wo8r
@user-zi2xd2wo8r 9 ай бұрын
This set is Awesome !!! Now can you take this set to the next level? Please max out the boom length and the counterweights to see how massive this set can be. 😲😎
@RacingBrick
@RacingBrick 9 ай бұрын
Boom parts are not available yet separately. Counterweight increase is in the next video, stay tuned ;)
@DJKirex
@DJKirex 9 ай бұрын
Finally!
@MarcMas07
@MarcMas07 9 ай бұрын
thanks for bringing this video to us racingbrick! by the way, do you remember me from some years ago?
@drummerbob10
@drummerbob10 9 ай бұрын
For some reason, it reminds me a lot of the Lego Technic Control Centre Set 8094
@cadefeldkamp
@cadefeldkamp 9 ай бұрын
I really wish I could have this set it is so cool
@amyjones25
@amyjones25 9 ай бұрын
Add some counterweights even if it's not lego to see how well it operates. This is a really cool set.
@tamartopuria6907
@tamartopuria6907 8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@rslotb
@rslotb 9 ай бұрын
I do wonder if it would look better with just a longer boom, without the jib. And of course, we are all waiting for someone to build the real-life configuration with the doubled-up boom, shown in the fotos in the instructions.
@hasoonalameer316
@hasoonalameer316 9 ай бұрын
Amaizing
@profBricks
@profBricks 9 ай бұрын
I am curious to know more about the load measurement system
@Maxiie_TM
@Maxiie_TM 9 ай бұрын
Great review. Sadly i won't ve buying this set any close time from now as i just finished building my ucs millenium falcon. Now i am waiting for concorde because i really want it to look good. Are you excited for it?
@mssm9495
@mssm9495 8 ай бұрын
For comparison, check out the Mould King Liebherr LR13000. It has all the right proportions and is actually affordable.
@brianjakobsen7556
@brianjakobsen7556 9 ай бұрын
Now they just need to make a LEGO version of this crane in the 250 meter tall configuration. That would make the model almost 5 meters tall.
@Ufthak
@Ufthak 9 ай бұрын
If only we lived in a warehouse
@moontube8704
@moontube8704 9 ай бұрын
For the height, 100 cm is the maximum height of the hook, not the whole crane
@dennisverkoeijen
@dennisverkoeijen 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to part 2. Question: why all the different colors? Red, grey, should be yellow imho. What are your thoughts about this?
@jliu1596
@jliu1596 9 ай бұрын
Wonder why they went with a sand blue gear rack sleeve for the weight sensor mechanism. Yellow or DBG would’ve worked much better here. Maybe to clear the excess stock after that ninjago set a few years ago?
@jamiesworld1690
@jamiesworld1690 9 ай бұрын
How hard is it really to control this mechanism Plus lego should make a real technic forklift truck being the same scale as this lr model plus with motor and app
@techni-cmate4746
@techni-cmate4746 9 ай бұрын
Nice Review, just want to ask if it's possible to add more Truss to increase the height like 42042, i hope you will try that next time, tnx
@jamesdavidson6689
@jamesdavidson6689 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s how real cranes work. The greater the radius of the lift, the less it can lift without becoming unstable
@CarstenJoshuaHedegaard
@CarstenJoshuaHedegaard 9 ай бұрын
Hi - great review. What do you think the possibilities are for making the crane larger or customer specific like Liebherr explained in their official presentation of the LR13000?
@RacingBrick
@RacingBrick 9 ай бұрын
If / when the new lattice frame pieces will be available it'll be fairly easy to make the booms longer, but I'm not sure how the app would react to that.
@THEYEAR2143
@THEYEAR2143 9 ай бұрын
I'd love to see this set lift some LEGO sets
@vincentlaramee4808
@vincentlaramee4808 9 ай бұрын
We need to see a battle vs big red (42082) awesome review
@jaysomewhereinflyoverterri735
@jaysomewhereinflyoverterri735 7 ай бұрын
I know I paid too much for this, but I bought one and can't wait to get started. When my 60-hour work weeks go back to 50 hours, I will. The box says 18 years and older, I'm glad it doesn't say, not for 60 years and older.
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