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The 98% Silent PC 🔇 - DAW PC build guide for Music Production & Quietness

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Tech Notice

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Күн бұрын

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@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice me pulling a VERGE and installing the RAM in the wrong slots during RAM section? 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂ HAHA, can't believe it! Well, that was the first thing I changed before booting as you can see from the B-Roll in the end :)
@HDRPC
@HDRPC Жыл бұрын
Sir you have teach us so well. Got it. No issue sir we are humans🤩🤩🙌🙌
@TING_WU
@TING_WU Жыл бұрын
Sickk build I always learn something from your vids. Keep it up. 👍
@MrHexographer
@MrHexographer Жыл бұрын
What I don't get is how this comment is 3 days old but the vid was only posted hours ago👀
@TING_WU
@TING_WU Жыл бұрын
@@MrHexographer IKRR
@reptilespantoso
@reptilespantoso Жыл бұрын
Not many files? Not many big files? 😀
@jfh142857
@jfh142857 Жыл бұрын
RAM matters in audio. Flexibility with buffer settings limits audio drop-outs and improves latency. DDR5 is definitely worthwhile for audio production. Bluetooth and WiFi are useless in the studio. Not worth consideration in a DAW build. Everything should be outboard via USB (mostly), if the build doesn't have a professional audio card in a PCIe slot. Thunderbolt is great in Macs, not so great in PC's historically; dependent on drivers from Microsoft and performance gains per dollar/euro aren't convincing. Onboard connectivity isn't relevant, external audio interface connectivity is. RAM doesn't improve capacity for track count, typically each track is dedicated to a single CPU thread. Very pretty looking PC, but people in audio don't need anymore confusion from gamers about building a DAW. Its difficult enough as it is.
@vasileiospgr
@vasileiospgr Жыл бұрын
Asus ROG Strix Scar III laptop owner here (i7 9750H, RTX 2070, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2TB 970 Evo Plus), having difficulties with DPC Latency when using external audio interface (Presonus Studio 24c) like audio dropouts-pops. When using the onbard Realtek, i have no audio pop. (doing my Thesis in Unity and thought i could also use a DAW with this beast... nope) Seen so many laptop-pc benchmarking videos, no one measures Latency. I have this problem 1,5 years now, haven't found the fix yet. (I have already done ~10 clean windows formats (with drivers, no drivers, no optional drivers), have every latest driver from asus, tried win 10 /11, bios options, power options, setting windows audio as priority, changed ssd to a faster one, tried turning off CPU C1E state, etc. nothing fixed it) I can see i have latency with LatencyMon but i don't know what to do after. If you have any idea please let me know. I want to play with Ableton and also make some audio stuff for my game but that pop thing is driving me nutts. 🤬
@jfh142857
@jfh142857 Жыл бұрын
@@vasileiospgr Latency is normal, so I hope your not trying to eliminate it altogether. That isn't possible. Depending on what your doing, it may be best to accommodate the limitations of using computers when processing audio. Not as much investment has been made in computers for audio as has been invested in imagery. If your using an external interface, Realtec shouldn't have anything to do with it. If your studies are concerned with graphics, and your laptop is loaded with high volume processes, it may be allocating the machines resources to other processes and causing 'poping' in your audio stream. You'd need to dedicate a seperate machine for audio to get flawless use of Ableton. You may be using Ableton in a way that places too much burden on your laptop. Popping on playback won't necessarily appear in the final sound file. You should still be able to consolidate your work done in Ableton and put it in your Unity project without them.
@vasileiospgr
@vasileiospgr Жыл бұрын
@@jfh142857 the popping thing is happening any time i use my external audio interface. like when playing a video on youtube, playing any file that has audio like litteraly when i play audio and have nothing else running in the background. in LatencyMon the latency i see is some thousands in Red (with nothing running)... that is definently not normal. i tested it on my old desktop and my desktop doesn't have this problem with latency. Desktop stayes at 300-350μs but my laptop reaches like 20.000μs. usually i see that something is happening with the ACPI.sys driver. (Also had an IT that took a look at it but didn't found a fix)
@coletrainisback
@coletrainisback Жыл бұрын
​@@vasileiospgrTry Asio and a higher buffer rate also make sure your sample rate is matching os and interface.
@vasileiospgr
@vasileiospgr Жыл бұрын
@@coletrainisback i have already done that :) for going as far as disabling CPU CE1 state and throttling yeah i believe i tried enough but no fix tho :(
@muchammadnurwibowowibi4580
@muchammadnurwibowowibi4580 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes we neglect case & CPU Cooler, but Fractal case & Noctua have been rock solid for 10 years serving my music studio
@HDRPC
@HDRPC Жыл бұрын
100%
@LM8Gaming
@LM8Gaming Жыл бұрын
This is so cool. Me, being a gamer, photographer, videographer, and musician, I thought "He makes great PC setups for videographers and photographers, just overall content creators. Only if there was something for music" and BOOM here it is! I am overjoyed I subscribed!
@HarvinderSingh-yy8th
@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Жыл бұрын
Use asus Proart z 690 creator motherboard with thunderbolt 4 port. It will speed up your system.
@Moshington
@Moshington Жыл бұрын
Bruh. I had the same exact thought. Im so glad he did a daw pc build. 😅😅
@hbrookes
@hbrookes 10 ай бұрын
I also do photo,video, etc and music recording. My last pc was an off the shelf best buy, Then stripped it and added pwr supply,ram,blu ray,dvd etc..still daily use and still running win 7!! But Im looking into doing one for better plugins and upgradeable.
@LM8Gaming
@LM8Gaming 10 ай бұрын
@@hbrookes oh nice!! Win7 was my fav OS. I haven’t upgraded to 11 quite yet, but if you like 7, you’ll love win10 for sure!
@foolishkeys529
@foolishkeys529 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for creating this video. Most of the videos about building PCs are always for gaming. I appreciate this content as it guides musicians in creating a silent but very much capable music DAW PC!
@foolishkeys529
@foolishkeys529 Жыл бұрын
@@JULESGUITARAr800 Wow! Thank you sir for including me in the lucky pick!
@flaviogargano5774
@flaviogargano5774 Жыл бұрын
pretty unrealistic. a pc with 10 fans can never be "completely" silent, but not silent either. No noise test done and the Cinebench "rendering" test has nothing to do with computer music where single-threaded CPU performance is most important.
@Guttalaser
@Guttalaser Жыл бұрын
Finally!!! A pc DAW!!! Asked a video about it time ago! Dig in man... this is for "SILENCE"... push the power to the limit! The goal is "zero latency" (almost) in VSTi and recording and real time plugin!
@blackhoundrise8431
@blackhoundrise8431 Жыл бұрын
Musicians can be forgotten creators and now they can find a system and design from it what they need. Very good video
@ThePearlDrummer10
@ThePearlDrummer10 Жыл бұрын
Man, I love you for this! Been avid follower of this channel for a while, always thought it would be so awesome if you did a build for us music producers, but we normally get the short end of the stick when it comes to tech. We normally have to try base our builds on info derived from video/photography production systems. And BOOM! I just saw your video/thumbnail and flipped! Thanks so much for doing this - you're awesome!
@akaerik1
@akaerik1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for building a DAW machine. The video creator needs usually aren't quite the same. Love the content
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@imRevenjo
@imRevenjo Жыл бұрын
FINALLY! A build for me/us Producers! Thanks so much!
@victor38542
@victor38542 Жыл бұрын
That's a great guide, thanks man, really appreciate it. As it turns out, I discovered _way back when_ -- 20 years ago maybe, as a teen in teen rooms -- that the most silent PC for music production is the one that's _not in the room_ :D What we used to do, because no money to improve PC noise, is drill a hole in a wall (preferably closet) to wire cables to the other room next to it (say another room or garage) and put the PC there and wire it back to the intended desk (VGA + USB KB/mouse + USB for ADC/DACs). It's janky and parents will kill you if you do it wrong, but it works(TM). I hear pro studios do the same sometimes, there's a backroom with proper isolation and everything routes there (USB, HDMI etc) over ethernet for length/signal power. Just like we route XLR's all the way if we need to :p Nowadays, I agree that for most SOHO (or Small Studio / Home Studio rather), you can build perfectly silent PCs. And that was a great how-to!
@bobomellette
@bobomellette Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video! I sincerely appreciate that you've taken the time to focus on audio creators, and not just video. Instant sub, and hope that you continue to update this build for the future! I'm looking to build a new audio production machine later this year, and this will be my first stop in that journey!
@BradleyGagne
@BradleyGagne 5 ай бұрын
Me too! Love to see an update!
@johnesparza7170
@johnesparza7170 Жыл бұрын
This is by far the best DAW directed PC build guide I've seen on the internet so far. Your choice of motherboard was spot on, I would have also included that the ethernet ports can be used for audio over ethernet protocols like Dante, this gives you a lot of options for high quality audio interfaces without having to buy expensive option cards. I also liked that you chose an E-ATX board as PCIe expansion cards are very common for things like word clocking (a must), MADI/ADAT connection, as well as DSP acceleration so having those extra PCI lanes are very important. I do think your RAM choice was a bit overkill in terms of size, having more than 16GB doesn't really make sense for a singer song writer type, maybe up to 32GB would make sense for someone doing large projects but might still be overkill. But I wouldn't go up to 64GB unless you were recording orchestras with multiple mic arrays recording at 192kHz/24Bit for hours at a time I don't think the noise is that important as professional production setups will try their best to put any noisy machine in another room. But for the home producer having their computer in the same room might be a must to avoid spending a lot of money on long cable snakes and KVM extenders. That being said I think it would have made more sense to go with the Noctua ULN specified fans. The 120mm NH-S12A ULN with the LNA attached produces only 6.7dB according to Noctua's website, which is astonishingly low. Along with that it could have been interesting to use the fanless CPU cooler from Noctua as well. Though with the current fanned cooler you have very low levels of noise, that low level can become more noticeable in a properly treated room with isolation from the outside and silent HVAC. For reference a professional control room's ambient noise level is about 20dB which is equivalent to the sound to a watch tick, which is why most studio designs place the computer in a completely separate room.
@MrHexographer
@MrHexographer Жыл бұрын
For anyone trying to make a decision between the Noctua cooler and the Thermalright Pearless 120....I just completed a build with the Thermalright cooler, 4 Noctua NF-A12x's(in vid) + 2 NF-A14's, and even before tuning the fans, the build was so quiet. I'm cooling an i9 12900K inside the Corsair 4000D Airflow, havent had tempts go above 85 on the CPU in any of the bench marks ive run so far. Asides from what I think is maybe too much negative pressure inside the case, I am beyond satisfied with this build.
@mageprostudios4334
@mageprostudios4334 Жыл бұрын
Are you seeing thermal hot-spots? I am curious why you think you have too much negative pressure.
@MrHexographer
@MrHexographer Жыл бұрын
@@mageprostudios4334 i dont think i even know how to lool for thermal hotspots lol but now im going to try. But i was noticing that i have quite a lot of air being drawn in through the back pci slots under the GPU. I've heard this is a way you get a lot of dust build up inside the case, so I need to figure out my fan speeds a bit more i think.
@NewRelix
@NewRelix Жыл бұрын
This was great! Maybe set up a deep dive interview with someone who really knows music studio computer requirements to see exactly how to configure the 3 types of music production computers: Home Studio, Project/Demo Studio, and Professional Studio. (Thank you for all you do!)
@skullsession
@skullsession Жыл бұрын
My 16 year old MOTU audio interface went tits up a couple weeks ago, and the PC it was on was an old i7 950. That PC was still running very strong for audio recording, actually, but I wanted to go Thunderbolt with a new audio interface...so I built this system this week. I used slightly different components beyond the motherboard and processor. I also reused my old case. Can't thank you enough for the pointers on this build. When you build a PC every 12 years all the parts look like alien technology. 🤣 So guidance is always welcome. You couldn't have been more timely with this video for me. First boot was last night...looking good so far.
@Siziksu
@Siziksu Жыл бұрын
Hey @HOOK, which board for thunderbolt did you finally got? I'm building my new PC, and since I have the MOTU 828ES I wanna use its thunderbolt connection.
@skullsession
@skullsession Жыл бұрын
@@Siziksu I'm using the ASUS Thunderboltex 4 with this ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A. Pretty easy to install. I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to update the firmware on the card, but it's communicating perfectly with an Apollo X6 at this point so I'll just let it be. Good luck.
@Siziksu
@Siziksu Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! By the way, which cable do you use? The only way I find to go thunderbolt is to buy from Apple the thunderbolt 1/2 cable + the thunderbolt adapter to thunderbolt 3. Is this the only way?
@skullsession
@skullsession Жыл бұрын
@@Siziksu I'm not sure I understand the question exactly...but my Apollo is Thunderbolt interface. I'm using a Startech Thunderbolt 3 cable. Working fine with this Thunderbolt 4 card.
@Siziksu
@Siziksu Жыл бұрын
@@skullsession Oh, excuse me, I don't know why I thought that the port on your interface was thunderbolt 1/2 like the one in the MOTU 828ES. Thanks a lot anyways for your answer, I'll have a look at Startech hunderbolt cables!
@kwameryan
@kwameryan Жыл бұрын
Saw this in my feed and shouted "Yessss!" 😊 Haven't started building yet, so this is gonna be awesome! Thanks so much for thinking of the musicians as well! Will let you know how it works with my workflow. 👍🏾
@fitztech
@fitztech Жыл бұрын
The noctua cooler is installed backwards. It should be flipped 180. It probably doesn't make much of a difference but if you look at the install instructions and look at the top of the cooler, the heatpipe holes are teardrop shaped. The tail of the teardrop should be pointing at the direction of the io shroud.
@TazzSmk
@TazzSmk Жыл бұрын
that's a very nice clean build, good video, didn't expect you to cover DAW users, WiFi may cause interference and noise issues in studio environment, but on the other hand Bluetooth may prove useful on MIDI-over-Bluetooth capable controllers and audio gadgets; one thing I'm not sure I can agree on is the CPU choice: apart from fact Windows 10 can't properly schedule tasks between P and E cores (and many musicians and producers may want to avoid W11 yet), DAW apps and audio processing in general (regardless of OS) heavily relies on consistency, which mix of P and E cores cannot deliver by design - that said 12700K gives 8 performance cores and overclocking potential to lock frequencies, but you have to completely disable its 4 E cores to prevent DPC latency spikes and unexpected slowdowns when processing audio - means, something like 12600 instead which has only 6 P cores is no hassle, and arguably at half the cost not much of a downgrade from 12700K for audio workflow...what do you think?
@jeromerusselldemusicologist
@jeromerusselldemusicologist Жыл бұрын
I am currently running Reason 12 on Win 11 with no issues at all...
@frankymino8773
@frankymino8773 Жыл бұрын
Changing the power plan to high power with 12th and 13th gen intel cpu's running windows 10 will eliminate the issue you describe between P and E cores. Just means lower priority tasks are still given to P cores so E cores are not utilised. More power consumption though that's the only trade off. There was also a windows 10 feature update a while back that addressed the issue. The scheduler from windows 11 was backported to windows 10. Been running 2 pc's for my studio with windows 10 and the latest gen cpu's for a long time now with no performance or reliability issues. Performance is mind-blowing when working with multiple virtual instruments running and playing at the same time. I also game from time to time with no issues either. For me I don't feel the need for windows 11 at this point. And with windows 12 just around the corner.... I will wait and see what windows 12 brings to the table in terms of hardware/software compatibility/benefits and whether it provides any benefits to my workflow. I dread the thought of transitioning my music workstation to another OS and avoid it unless it's absolutely necessary for productivity.
@Edubbonthabeat
@Edubbonthabeat Жыл бұрын
Basically just bought this entire setup besides a different case. This is going to be my first PC build i have been running my home studio from a DELL I’ve had for like the last 10 years lol. Excited and overdue for this upgrade
@imlieksokewl123
@imlieksokewl123 Жыл бұрын
Hows it working for you so far? Thinking of doing the same thing
@Edubbonthabeat
@Edubbonthabeat Жыл бұрын
@@imlieksokewl123 its working amazingly. Such a great build
@imlieksokewl123
@imlieksokewl123 Жыл бұрын
@@Edubbonthabeat Nice. What case did you end up using?
@thestroller7142
@thestroller7142 Жыл бұрын
I love silent PC builds. This was 10/10!
@volbers
@volbers Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this build (as well as the School of Rock cutaways). Also, I'd agree that staying on DDR4 for a while is sufficient enough for making music. In general, I'd say it pays off to not go for the highest end of hardware. I recently upgraded my system to a ryzen 5900 as it was dropping in price considerably, even though the 7900 was already on the horizon. It barely breaks a sweat even with my giant 200+ track orchestra template, and I got to keep it quite cool and quiet within my old Fractal Design R5 case. :) I figure it will be enough for the coming years, and you can also get around with using a 2.5 ssd instead of an m.2 one for sample library storage if you don't mind a bit longer loading times.
@mrrexy4151
@mrrexy4151 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I need, thanks for video bro!
@davehill9951
@davehill9951 Жыл бұрын
If your in a larger studio like the one i own, the computer is nowhere to be found. Its usually hidden away in the amp/power/cable room. Wiring is tided together and run to the soundboard/daw etc. with 2 or 3 large high refresh screens for work loads. So no real need for a fancy looking computer. Just make the guts work well with lots of ram. Musicians will never say, hey love the look of your puter rig. Paying 300 an hour for studio time they don't have time to look around. Studio time starts as soon as you walk through the door. Good video though and a very pretty computer!
@BoltRM
@BoltRM Жыл бұрын
@@JULESGUITARAr800 Massage you?
@Clayfacer
@Clayfacer Жыл бұрын
i produce music and I am going to be upgrading my pc, this guide is exactly what I needed!
@JacobGagoOfficial
@JacobGagoOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Legit a new fan of this channel. Your the only one that gets to the point and actually gives valid info. Like the 2x32 ram vs 4x16. I decided to go with 2x32.
@Crossfire2003
@Crossfire2003 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Great PC. I love that it's quiet & without all of that RGB stuff.
@segundacuenta726
@segundacuenta726 5 ай бұрын
For many a mini pc that is fanless such as the ones in aliexpress and amazon, that come with i7-1355u and can have 64gb ddr4 ram plus gen4 pcie m2 drive would be very good. Also that one has thunderbolt so one could add an external gpu if trying to install hackintosh. I think th e needs depend on how fast single core vs multi core are, and the amount of ram. For example many mini pcs can have 96gb ddr5 ram but from what Ive seen most are noisy, appearently the Beelink GTR7 is the exception as far as noise and thermals (it has a Ryzen 9 7940hs), but that is more expensive than the fanless one I mentioned. The Hx100g minisforum could be a contender as well but that has to be proven with time, since most mini pcs are problematic and unreliable many become bricks after a while, thermal problems, noise problems, etc. Great video by the way.
@nuvisionprinting
@nuvisionprinting Жыл бұрын
The only correction I see is with the advent of gpu audio being in beta testing. I can't see it being adopted overnight, but this is something to think about.
@stefanoricci9978
@stefanoricci9978 Жыл бұрын
Studio Machine - a DAW is digital audio workstation for example abelton, logic, FL etc are DAW.
@Metalpazallteway
@Metalpazallteway Жыл бұрын
Is there a such thing as having a powerful PC for Video Editing, 3D rendering, and music production in one package? What materials would you use to optimize it, is it recommended to have 64g ram or 128ram? Great material btw
@em.dot.2
@em.dot.2 11 ай бұрын
It's all relative - what you mean by powerful is different than me, and both of us have a different definition than, say, Daft Punk. In general, the PC in this video is pretty overkill for all those use cases at an amateur level. As you go up in price, for things like the CPU/GPU, the main thing you're doing is shaving off rendering time. That's important if you're making money on what you're producing (time does equal money here), but you and I can just go fold laundry or get lunch while a video is rendering. Remember: the phone in your pocket has more computing power than Alfred Hitchcock ever dreamed of when he was filming. You don't really need more than 8gb of RAM if all you're doing is simple hip-hop beats. But if you're into making beats, you probably don't want to be limited creatively. For DDR5, I'd consider 16GB the minimum, 32GB the sweet spot for most of your uses, 64GB if you can see yourself making more complex, symphonic/EDM tracks. If you don't already know why you'd need 128GB, you won't need it. At this point, 10 months later, definitely consider a DDR5 build. I'd wager there'll be some decent deals come Black Friday
@Metalpazallteway
@Metalpazallteway 10 ай бұрын
Hi there. Yes you're right he would've dreamed of our generational power. So I've been with my HP Spectre x360 for 3 year's works great 16g ram with 500 SSD gigs storage. Although, it does have issues with rendering speeds but I think it is due to ram power from time to time or even memory filling up, especially on the symphonic hybrid heavy Metal whole band thing going on. What build would you recommend for someone like me who wants speed (since it means money) but can also handle Kontakt VSTs like 80 running simultaneously like butter and also have Z Brush, Blender, Davinci or Unreal Engine turned on running smoothly?
@raucous66
@raucous66 8 ай бұрын
Excellent guide! Once thing I will say is that I would NOT recommend installing plug-in graphics card, particularly NVidia! I thought I could use NVidia GeForce RTX 4060, and I would get better performance, but for audio it was considerably worse! The NVidia added a lot of latency issues that went away after I uninstalled it, and started using just the discrete Intel graphics, so if you want the best audi performance, definitely do NOT add NVidia GeForce RTX adapter!
@JMark4
@JMark4 Жыл бұрын
That section in the bottom front behind the front panel are 2 5.25" bays so if you wanted to put a HDD cage or optical drive you can do so.
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Жыл бұрын
Yep
@jessechristman1471
@jessechristman1471 Жыл бұрын
While I truly, sincerely appreciate you making this video for musicians (cheers, just finished my studio!) and not gamers, I have some concerns about the choice of PSU. Sparkle is not the most reputable brand and for such a critical component of this type of system, I would think going with a more stable brand like Corsair or Seasonic would be ideal. Of course every manufacturer is going to have lemons, but I've never had one from either of those two companies, and I've been building computers since 2010. Actually the first Corsair PSU I installed in 2010 is still alive and kicking today! Just something to consider.
@vasileiospgr
@vasileiospgr Жыл бұрын
- DAW PC build guide for Music Production & Quietness... follows color theme - measures only temperature & noise - noise measurement is: i can't hear it - saying "maybe", "might", "you know" in a phrase shows that you are not sure what you're saying? - not measured system latency - many audio interfaces & DAWs recommend to turn off intel Hyperthreading, intel Turbo Boost etc. and put everything power related to maximum power (they even recommend disabling some CPU-C states)
@HDRPC
@HDRPC Жыл бұрын
To be honest i have skipped only psu part. Except that i haven't skipped anything. Keep it up
@Hoolagun
@Hoolagun 10 ай бұрын
As an Audio engineer of 17 years and gamer, i appreciate this video. Details like "a faster single thread for lower latency operations..." i have not heard from any other YTer and is good to get confirmation on. Somethings ive had to be aware of for my build is a mobo with two ethernet ports. One for internet and another for Dante. Also perhaps running 140mm fans as they run slower to push the same amount of air and resonate at a lower frequency? I would certainly appreciate if you were to do an update to this as newer CPU technology comes out. Hard to keep up with team red and blue throwing punches. Subscribed!
@yoRRnl
@yoRRnl Жыл бұрын
Hey Tech Notice, what an awesome video. I hope you will make a awesome Digital Artist PC in the future. For those out there doing digital painting in Photoshop. Big size stuff, 300dpi, lot of layers. Doing some blender for a quick reference and move over to a drawing program. USB C for connecting a Drawing screen, etc.
@GMICHAELG62
@GMICHAELG62 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t see you screw with confidence. Seriously though, your videos are a big help. Thank you 😊
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for some more musician love. Thanks.there is also a few. Music vst plugins that can use the video card for acceleration planned in the future.
@BradleyGagne
@BradleyGagne 5 ай бұрын
I'd love to see an updated video for a custom music PC that's as silent as possible and super fast for running lots of plugins and VSTs. Thanks for all your work I love your content!
@Badrogu13
@Badrogu13 7 ай бұрын
Awesome video! And if someone wonders if the NH-D15 fits it this case, the answer is YES!
@robertcrain9849
@robertcrain9849 Жыл бұрын
I love it! What if I want it quiet but I do 3D? What is the quietest high end graphics card you recommend? Do they exist?
@radicaltouch
@radicaltouch Жыл бұрын
super cool video!!!! Just to clarify terminology, a DAW is usually a software where we track or compose, such as Logic, Protools, Cubase, Ableton etc.... still learned a bunch as a computer tech noob and long time mac user! cheers mate.
@windmillcoach
@windmillcoach Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video - as per usual
@artactsound444
@artactsound444 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps I shouldn't ask for advice here but I'm going to try: I'm not even sure I need an Audio interface, I have happily used an M Audio Audiophile internal sound card for the last 20 years, first in a 20 year old PC then on my present build from about 10 years ago, I've just upgraded from Windows 7 to 10, and lost the software and drivers of the card in the process. I've been doing a littler research and it looks like my good old sound card is very dated. All I do is on Sibelius, DORICO, Vienna Instruments and Note Performer. All I really need is Sound quality, power to drive my Zennheiser HD 600 headphones well, lowest possible latency and no clipping. I like monitors with amps in them. Connecting an instrument or a Microphone is something I've never done, but it could be fun to do sometime maybe. Certainly not more than 1 instrument or 1 microphone. These are my two choices though I'm not sure they are what I need. MOTU M2 2x2 USB-C Audio Interface. M-Audio AIR 192x4 USB C Audio Interface. Hope you can help.
@FightingWordz
@FightingWordz Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Needed some high end pc build talk.
@juddrizzo
@juddrizzo 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! I’m glad I finally found a video from you focusing specifically on building a PC for musicians and recording engineers. I’m trying to figure out if it makes more sense to build something very similar to this machine or build a DAW based on a Mac mini. Years ago, I was very happy when I switched from windows to macOS. So I’m not really thrilled about the idea of going back to a windows based machine. Yes I know they’ve come along way in the last 10 years. I know you as well. I’d love to hear your opinion on what Mac mini based solution you’d have to put together to equal this machine in the video.
@mistangino
@mistangino 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful! I built pretty similiar workstation but with Aero G, DDR5, 64gb Corsair Vengeance and Arctic duo freezer 34. i7 12700K also my choice. Works like a charm but seems like little bit of noisy. Maybe I could give it a try with this Noctua cooler, even this Arctic is very quiet. GPU is some old gen, but I am planning to upgrade it. Anyway, machine is the beast, I did’t succeed to make it insufficient even with dozens of synths and instruments. Stable as a the rock.
@busywl69
@busywl69 4 ай бұрын
Fractal makes the best insulated noise free cases without the glass side panel. Don't hear a thing.
@byteme0000
@byteme0000 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. You’re one of the few KZfaqrs who build systems for purposes other than gaming. From watching all of the others, one could be forgiven for thinking that all people do with their computers is play games all day on systems that look like electronic clown cars. Btw, I suggest reducing the number of cutesy interruptions (from Jack Black or whatever). Once or twice is OK, but after that it begins to disturb the flow of the video and it becomes annoying. You’re the star here, not him. 🤓
@oridavidmusai7184
@oridavidmusai7184 Жыл бұрын
I’ve built a 100% silent pc using noctua fanless cpu cooler, a 1000w psu that goes silent below 40% use, and a fanless gt 1030
@nitrouspeed3583
@nitrouspeed3583 Жыл бұрын
You can apply a .03V undervolt that i7 pretty comfortably & reduce load temps by about 5°. I havn’t had the opportunity to mess with that GPU but undervolting could reduce temps some more. Having less hot air inside the case would allow you to run the fans even less. Those are some simple software changes that can make it quieter without voiding warranties but you can take it a step further by delidding the cpu & repasting/repadding the gpu, lowering temps even further allowing for slower fans once again.
@soulscape5083
@soulscape5083 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I put my PC to the small room next to my studio, running 2 display and 2 usb extension cables. Zero noise. But if you have such a place available, ot course.
@ChrisKadaver
@ChrisKadaver Жыл бұрын
If single core performance in key, then I presume tight ram timings and frequency would be as well just like in gaming? I'm helping out a friend who is a profecissonal sound engineer and producer with his next build. But I have never seen benchmarks in like pro tools or anything like that, so it's hard to determine what to prioritize when comes to ram. Does quad rank gain performance over dual rank just like in gaming? DDR4 vs DDR5? i7 12700 vs i5 13600k?
@alpenfoxvideo7255
@alpenfoxvideo7255 Жыл бұрын
When is tech notice gonna try building a custom watercooled build just for the lols?
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Жыл бұрын
I've got an idea ;)
@astralboy
@astralboy Жыл бұрын
Thanks, i wish more reviewers would cover PC builds for music production. Too much RGB madness.........Also It would be good if you can compare the new AM5 AMD 7950 and Intel 13900k performance for DAW use eg Wav render time's, loading Linear phase plugins with oversampling enabled etc...... I find this missing in all the reviews where the focus is just on playing shallow copy-paste games or adobe subscription based products.....Both of which don't fit my use case.
@mashirokobato5509
@mashirokobato5509 Жыл бұрын
avoid AMD cpu overall
@astralboy
@astralboy Жыл бұрын
@@mashirokobato5509 well i have a new 7950x and it works great as my new DAW :)
@marksadventures3889
@marksadventures3889 Жыл бұрын
I'm coveting that system right now and making lists. Audio Visuals will be my goal and I use so many channels running vets and effects for music, the there's Devinci resolve for video even though Reaper can handle that too, I find Reaper fiddly for video. Of course the build is looking around £865 right now. Ouch. But hopefully will be keep going for at least 10 years.
@panamathrill4425
@panamathrill4425 Жыл бұрын
Any chance for a link update on the components, it looks like some new fans have come out
@gum3602
@gum3602 Жыл бұрын
The new i5 13600k is out too, looks like a better cpu than this one espeically for the price
@elteacher0223
@elteacher0223 Жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for the info... im planning to build a silent pc... your guide helps me a lot!!!
@subhojitkumar7375
@subhojitkumar7375 Жыл бұрын
Love from India sir ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@ryde2012
@ryde2012 Жыл бұрын
I had to subscribe, you're so knowledgeable 👍🏾💯
@Mizztah_D
@Mizztah_D 10 ай бұрын
Really good video, thanks
@Rezonances
@Rezonances Жыл бұрын
What we do is create baffles which close all the holes in the case EXCEPT for a lower front one, and the top-most rear panel fan hole (which a fan being affixed and running is crucial). This creates a closed system except the inlet and outlet. The top rear fan pulls cool air through the front lower open hole without turbulence within the case. This design prevents running extra fans that only create more noise too. Having a speed control on the top rear fan is good so you can set it where it's at the right speed for sufficient cooling (monitor your MB temps here) and lowest noise. You can create a quiet case like this with almost any of the cases on the market now. For those cases with a PSU tunnel which is separate from the motherboard cavity, you don't have to have a fan on the inlet there. You can simply utilize the outlet fan that's built into the PSU. Adding foam or mineral wool (or even Owens Corning compressed fiberglass) sound dampening and butyl hybrid sound deadening sheets can further reduce noise and help direct airflow. It's very simple for people to do. :)
@FeelFreetoEdit
@FeelFreetoEdit Жыл бұрын
Hey! This video gave me a great guidance for building a Music Production PC. Kindly make a video based on an Intel i3 build for the people who wanna build their first ultra budget PC.
@murraywebster1228
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
Ok, that was the musician version, how about a producer/mixer/mastering version?
@djashjones
@djashjones Жыл бұрын
I play an electronic musical instrument and I would not build that pc.God knows what he thinks a musician is.
@Design475
@Design475 Жыл бұрын
Why did you choose 120mm fans over 140mm fans
@Darkred11
@Darkred11 Жыл бұрын
Same question
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice Жыл бұрын
Good question... I could've got some 140mm fans, but sometimes even 140mm are louder than these Noctua NF-A25x12 fans. :) I could've tried something, but better to stick to what you know works. :)
@Darkred11
@Darkred11 Жыл бұрын
@@theTechNotice as I understand, the i712700k can get really hot - so is the u12a sufficient enough in cooling it? Or should I get the D15 instead?
@lundsweden
@lundsweden Жыл бұрын
It's interesting whether RAM speed really matters for music production. Any issues I have in my DAW is due to the CPU maxing out. This is why I'm building a Intel 13th gen rig with 32gb RAM. I'm only using DDR4 3200 but I don't think it'll make a bit of difference to my music making!
@uselessoldman7964
@uselessoldman7964 Жыл бұрын
Usually any delay in loading is down to the number of tracks and loading all the instruments and effects. If someone is serious about their music and doing it for their living, they should invest in a Professional Workstation not a toy desktop computer. You should look for a motherboard that takes ECC registered Ram and probably has a controller for SAS hard drives or buy a add on card. 2Tb is fine until you start adding in Kontakt or other sample libraries, SUperior Drummer being another example or a library that can grow into terrabytes. Even fast SATA drives are slow when you compare them to SAS drives especially when configured in a disk array. Even an old Pro workstation like the Z800 would give a top spec modern custom desktop a run for its money can take 192Gb of cheap server RAM has takes Dual Hex Xeon server processors and cost in comparison, PEANUTS !!
@certainlyjoel7778
@certainlyjoel7778 7 ай бұрын
@@uselessoldman7964Yeah I got a z640 with two Xeon CPU, excited to use it for music production!
@user-yv2cz8oj1k
@user-yv2cz8oj1k 9 ай бұрын
Intel Efficiency Cores have some substantial issues, really for this you could easily get away with a Ryzen 5600G/5700G on a B450 or B550 motherboard. And add enough memory, I chose 32GB of 3600 memory and it's going to work perfectly. I did mine as an upgrade just after New Year so the CPU and memory cost me $200, and I picked up the Gigabyte B450 motherboard for about $30 as the person selling it thought it was faulty, but all I needed to do was throw the old 2200G in there to reset the BIOS settings.
@rodhester2166
@rodhester2166 Жыл бұрын
That pump noise is going to haunt me the rest of the day.. lol
@rjb7569
@rjb7569 9 ай бұрын
An isolation box can allso be helpful for home studio setups. Just be sure to ventilate for heat release.
@aboveaxis
@aboveaxis Ай бұрын
"its 27 degrees, so very hot"... *laughs in australian*
@iamcoderedd
@iamcoderedd 11 ай бұрын
I’m a music producer and build CPU’s for studio owners and friends and the industry’ and working with plugins, VST’s and anything RAM heavy’ most important’ people always come to me with laptops running cracked FL software / 4gbs ram 😂😂
@SkyAvila983
@SkyAvila983 Жыл бұрын
Water cooling is never a problem regarding noise if you have the PC on the floor. No pump noise EVER if you have a good one.
@laxminarayana4828
@laxminarayana4828 Жыл бұрын
This requriment can use video edting purpose
@roythunderplump
@roythunderplump Жыл бұрын
Interesting to know music production needs are slightly different to gaming pc. With the system it would have been good to see if how many high quality sound VST Plugins you can run before it crashes, drop outs.
@userunavailable__
@userunavailable__ Жыл бұрын
Love from India 🇮🇳
@nicksinghal13
@nicksinghal13 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a pc or give out your recommendation for 3d rendering and cad cam programmers,a short would be absolutely appreciated too
@WarrenGaum
@WarrenGaum Жыл бұрын
I'm running a i9 12900k 360 msi AIO water cooler with 16 GB DDR5 5600. FL studio runs like a dream. I haven't hit my memory limit.
@Siziksu
@Siziksu Жыл бұрын
Hi @EvR3van, I'm getting also the 12900K. Which AIO model do you have? I'm about to get the MSI MAG CORELIQUID C280 but I'm not sure if it will be enough for the 12900K.
@WarrenGaum
@WarrenGaum Жыл бұрын
@@Siziksu MSI 360 v2 AIO water cooler. It works nicely. The 12900k runs very hot needs a good Cooler.
@Siziksu
@Siziksu Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your answer!
@pnwadventures2955
@pnwadventures2955 8 ай бұрын
a single "data drive" is a sure recipe for a complete data loss, when that drive breaks in a few years
@maozedowner5915
@maozedowner5915 Жыл бұрын
You'd get a quieter pc if you run a more open case and populate most of the fan slots. Run every fan slower.
@SonicEldorado
@SonicEldorado Жыл бұрын
Did you test this out already? I see that GamersNexus is always recommeding airflow cases, even for silent builds. Although he mentions that other noise sources than fans might get perceived louder (coils, etc). Anyone with real life experience using airflow cases in a silent environment? Thank you.
@maozedowner5915
@maozedowner5915 Жыл бұрын
@@SonicEldorado Me. I run airflow case with 8 case fans and they are dead silent.
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
I used a Deepcool Assassin 3 for the i7. I found that beast for the same price as an NH-U12A and performs like an NH-D15. The case is a Corsair 5000D airflow (tempered glass panel broke, but i made a new panel with common glass and it's way better without the nonsense of tempered glass exploding for everything).
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
The motherboard is an MSI Z690 Pro A DDR5 with 32GB corsair Vengance DDR5 4800MT/S. Two 1TB Kingston NV2 NVMe SSDs (more important the price perfomance specially for random reads than sequential vs proper PCIe Gen 4 SSDs and Gen 5 is ridiculously expensive)
@razhua
@razhua Жыл бұрын
great video! I just don't have the time. What if I do not want to build one but rather buy a quiet creator computer? any recommendations on where to get it?
@JEEKMUSIC
@JEEKMUSIC Жыл бұрын
It's possible to get this amazing silence in a Laptop? BTW, tu for this video.
@honeywellparts7541
@honeywellparts7541 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they are laptop that have a better cooling system and they are really quiet, but their prices can be exaggerated high. That's why a lot of people prefer to build a PC instead of buying a Laptop, that and you can get a better performance in a Desktop PC
@bassplayer3974
@bassplayer3974 Жыл бұрын
Yep need multi core but grunt as quite a few tasks are sequential and can't be divided up . Memory just fill it to the max with fastest you can get
@mwachner
@mwachner Жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@MarioSargeant
@MarioSargeant Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! Just this week I was wondering what I can do since I want to make one of your bang for buck 4k editing builds but silent for audio work as well. Would I be right in using the 4k build but just swap out the fans, cpu cooler and case for those in this video or am I missing something?
@residuevideos
@residuevideos 7 ай бұрын
My dude likes School of Rock movie I guess.
@nativesonno.1113
@nativesonno.1113 Жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you!
@codesymphony
@codesymphony 10 ай бұрын
loling at the SponsorBlock edits on this
@Shuttterbugg
@Shuttterbugg 11 ай бұрын
I dont mind a lil fans, as long as it cant be heard when i record or stream or w.e but inprefer it cooler and push rhe limits then a quite computer
@cryptout
@cryptout Жыл бұрын
You really don't need to build a specific "DAW" PC these days. Any PC that has adjustable fan profiles (for low noise) and more than 8Gb of ram is sufficient. A decent pair of headphones (flat response) is more important than DDR4 ram etc.
@HDRPC
@HDRPC Жыл бұрын
Keep it up just keep it up insane sir
@noreaction1
@noreaction1 Жыл бұрын
Can you do this video again but with a budget of $5000 (not including price of cpu plus price of gpu)?
@Gigatless
@Gigatless 3 ай бұрын
2024 did anyone try this build? How much does it cost nowadays?
@Darkred11
@Darkred11 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know why you chose the u12a over the d15? (the d15 is supposed to be quieter). Also, which one of them will be your best choice for a music production + video editing pc?
@akuahsan
@akuahsan Жыл бұрын
D15s
@mageprostudios4334
@mageprostudios4334 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I don't believe that there is enough of a cost difference to have chosen the Noctua 12's over the 15's. Considering the db difference, it could well be worth the price difference in the BBFB department. This is especially a point when noise is a consideration in the studio. It would have been nice to have seen a measurement of the sound levels as well as it under load for practical audio work as a DAW (such as anything from Reaper to ProTools with some heavy use of plugins from companies such as iZotope). Different DAWs react differently in CPU usage and some will even use a good deal of GPU for visualization. The 12th Gen Intel chips can possibly alleviate some of that visual load with their built-in GPU. If money was no object, the Asus Noctua combo 3070 might be a good choice as well when one goes to edit the sound (ADR) for a video. We are getting sent 4k videos these days and anything less than the 3070 isn't going to cut it.
@Darkred11
@Darkred11 Жыл бұрын
@@akuahsan The 15s has only 1 fan, so it might be too weak
@Darkred11
@Darkred11 Жыл бұрын
@@mageprostudios4334 Here we have both of them at the same price
@mageprostudios4334
@mageprostudios4334 Жыл бұрын
@@Darkred11 It's easy enough to add the 2nd fan when you can catch a sale (a rarity).
@abelovesfun
@abelovesfun 5 ай бұрын
I don't think you can actually fit the thunderbolt and graphic driver in the same case - am I mistaken? That thunderbolt card is a nightmare to configure. Built this a week ago and the card still won't install correctly.All music production is halted.
@mr.rainbowlovescoffee
@mr.rainbowlovescoffee 8 ай бұрын
Circle area is a better place😂 0:36
@Arvintures28
@Arvintures28 10 ай бұрын
Great build for music producers. I would've upgraded the GPU for video editing ang gaming just in case.
@rocnroll1715
@rocnroll1715 Жыл бұрын
Slam a AMD GPU in this build and make a Open Core bootloader for Big Sur OS and lets see how well it runs a DAW ...Mac vs WN11. Great build!!!
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