The accounting trick that fooled Polly Peck's investors - MoneyWeek investment tutorials

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Asil Nadir brought Polly Peck to its knees using a simple accounting trick that could still work today. Tim Bennett explains how you can avoid being caught out.

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@impactodelsurenterprise2440
@impactodelsurenterprise2440 2 жыл бұрын
When I started my own business with an engineering background, I took the trouble to learn and do my own accountings. One of the most valuable skill in my toolbox ever since.
@MoneyWeekVideos
@MoneyWeekVideos 12 жыл бұрын
Under one of the allowable UK methods for subsidiaries the capital loss was taken via the P&L reserves in the balance sheet and bypassed the P&L. The accountants tried to solve this later by introducing the Statement of Recognised Gains and Losses but few people read it even so, let alone knew what it was trying to say. That's accountants for you!
@MoneyWeekVideos
@MoneyWeekVideos 12 жыл бұрын
There were similarities although quite a bit of Enron's loss was related to unhedged energy derivative bets. Cheers Tim.
@MoneyWeekVideos
@MoneyWeekVideos 12 жыл бұрын
He went to jail for theft of company assets. However the amounts involved were small compared to the amount the company lost on unhedged forex exposures via his main overseas operating company. Cheers TIm.
@kerumble
@kerumble 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent series of videos, thanks a lot. Enjoying your enthusiasm!
@TXLionHeart
@TXLionHeart 4 жыл бұрын
This is why you always need to look at the statement of comprehensive income!
@buku2008
@buku2008 5 жыл бұрын
You are great! I have learned so much from your podcast!
@Easytouch
@Easytouch 11 жыл бұрын
very interesting. Thank you so much for taking the time to publishing this videos. Greetings from Vienna, Robert Redl
@mikitimiki8604
@mikitimiki8604 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, Which section of the balance sheet will we be able to spot the forex depreciation?
@MoneyWeekVideos
@MoneyWeekVideos 12 жыл бұрын
Correct - he wasn't. Tim.
@NiNE0s
@NiNE0s 5 жыл бұрын
Keep an eye on the balance sheet. Hmm but what am I looking for overtime...the slope of what item.. the annual to quarterly profit
@Missdream071
@Missdream071 12 жыл бұрын
Hi, tim, If possible, Could you do more case study just like this one. the case actually more interesting than plain theory.
@crankyoldfart
@crankyoldfart Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very well explained.
@CharlesThomaston
@CharlesThomaston 12 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are many regional variations on this, but there's an old American saying, "There's a sucker born every minute, and two (born) to take him in, (take his money)".
@luvpinas123
@luvpinas123 5 жыл бұрын
That loss in translation when the lira dropped should have been put into a foreign currency translation reserve in the parent company's balance sheet..
@mihirpandit4802
@mihirpandit4802 3 жыл бұрын
Each and every video is awesome🔥🔥
@bob6168able
@bob6168able 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Tim
@rodctenis
@rodctenis 12 жыл бұрын
Let's say the UK PLC has the loan as an asset in its books and the loan is a long term one. Then, while the borrower is paying the interest, the lender will keep the loan at its 100% value and the damage will be realized only once the borrower defaults. At the other hand the borrower investing overseas, if doesn't use a mark to market system and depending on the vehicle used to invest, could keep the value of the investment at face value as long as they investment is active.
@SandeepKumar-tj1jz
@SandeepKumar-tj1jz 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@entertainity
@entertainity 12 жыл бұрын
great as always
@carterfinance2376
@carterfinance2376 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos
@kunalarora6487
@kunalarora6487 3 жыл бұрын
hey could have gone for currency forward to hedge currency risk
@macealvaro2
@macealvaro2 3 жыл бұрын
what if the investment was made in fixed assets, hedged against inflation. would they be hedge agaist depreciation too?
@F.G.30.4.91
@F.G.30.4.91 12 жыл бұрын
wasn't it the same at enron?
@Steephhnnn
@Steephhnnn 3 жыл бұрын
This is superb. Where is this guy today and does he still make videos?
@alexmckee4683
@alexmckee4683 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Bennett. More recent videos of his can be seen here: m.kzfaq.infovideos
@Steephhnnn
@Steephhnnn 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexmckee4683 thx
@F.G.30.4.91
@F.G.30.4.91 12 жыл бұрын
depriciation on what? you don't usually write down firm values, don't you?
@bob6168able
@bob6168able 3 жыл бұрын
But how the investment value decreased and the forex loss not taken to the profit or loss. !
@mummifiedcheese
@mummifiedcheese 12 жыл бұрын
So why did the guy go to jail if he wasn't lying about the capital loss? did he mess with the balance sheets, or is it illegal to not tell people to look at the balance sheets?
@David-ud9ju
@David-ud9ju 5 жыл бұрын
He wasn't arrested for the suspect accountancy that's talked about in this video; that was completely legal and it's the investors' fault if they don't understand what they're investing in. He was arrested for stealing stuff belonging to the company essentially.
@mail22
@mail22 12 жыл бұрын
Don't know how these so-called "professionals" attract millions of dollars to blindly gamble Vegas-style.
@alihaider-to3hy
@alihaider-to3hy 7 жыл бұрын
as you changed the ratio from 1 :1 to 1 : 2 than that means that the polly peck invested 10000 pounds which than turned to 20000 lira so 20 percent return rate should be 4000 lira and pound it should be 2000 which is same can you plz explain i didnt get it well
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 3 жыл бұрын
When the exchange rate changed, money which had already been converted to lira did not change. So the original £10,000 investment stayed at 10,000 lira, as did the return of 2,000 lira: but converting the return to pounds at the new rate resulted in £1,000, not the earlier £2,000.
@marypoppins4678
@marypoppins4678 4 жыл бұрын
No Audio.
@coolkidbmx6851
@coolkidbmx6851 4 жыл бұрын
What he said
@etasdemir
@etasdemir Жыл бұрын
neden her yerdeyiz
@kevinhenderson2019
@kevinhenderson2019 Жыл бұрын
We're ya coughed oot
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