Mav: AI, it's an old 5th gen F-16 AI: It's Not The Plane, It's The Pilot.

I'm more worried who gets the keys to the Drone than the Ai going rogue 1 rogue AI is a menace A rogue politician with an AI Army is a weapon of mass destruction with no one questioning if their orders are moral

This is how we end ourselves

Talon-1: It's not real it's just a war game! AI: If it isn't real, then why did they implant it in my brain?

Dave: "Okay, so what do you do when you run out of fuel?" AI: "Um...fuel?"

I'm more curious what an f16 can do without a limiter. Not that the f22 wouldn't be badass... it's just the f16 is actually doing it right now. And 3d trust vectoring... fuck Imagine if they could make a f16 with a f135 engine 40k lbs of thrust.. or a 119 that's like in the raptor

I am not sure wether the F22 could pull more g without a pilot. This is also extremely stressful for the aircraft itself. There is certainly a physical limit.

@@zenon7094 oh for sure but most pilots being limited to like 9 gs or whatever I’m sure the plane could perform even crazier without being restricted by the pilot 🤷🏼‍♂️

the airframe will die

@@RealisticFPS_It’s possible to go beyond the 9g mark in various aircraft and though we train pilots to hold a 9g turn for at least 30 seconds, both pilot and aircraft can go beyond that. For example, the new Gripen-E has a G-limiter of 9g, but in emergency situations it can be overridden up to 12g. The issue with this is that it will have to go through a very thorough maintenance process afterwards. I don’t know what the G-limit is on the F-22, nor how far they went in testing it to determine how far beyond any G-limiter onboard it can actually go as it’s not a plane I’ve had the honour of flying. The only thing I am sure of is that pilots are capable of going quite a way beyond the 9g mark for short periods of time. In fact, there was an Indy car that crashed and the driver survived 214g, something that was more than 8x the lethal level. I have no idea how far the structural integrity of aircraft is pushed in testing, but I’m fairly certain that pilots can manage short periods of time at G-forces higher than any aircraft is capable of. Ejection seats put around 20g’s on pilots as well, just for reference.

Might be closer to "Select all squares with J-20s"

That would be better than "crosswalks".

"using TWS, designate 4 enemy targets on the radar" *we wont be learning from you, HONEST!*

Select squares that look like SAM smoke trails.

Select all squares with "Chinese Knockoffs"

no new much more highly maneuverable smaller aircraft designed with no pilot and insane G loads will take flight . God help our enemies..

Yes technically, although it still would be better to make a new aircraft since the cockpit wouldn’t be needed anymore. A cockpit is a huge hinderance, both on weight and aerodynamically, so makes a lot of sense to still make a new plane and avoid that waste, because for obvious reasons, you don’t need a cockpit on an AI plane

If we've shut down production of older aircraft to retool factories to make new ones then there's nothing that'll bring the older aircraft production back. F35's are about as cheap as F-18's these days anyway and so much more capable.

​@@jakammor4449 but the US also has a TON just sitting out in the desert for "reasons"

@@jakammor4449 whats that movie with ol mate who looks like owen wilson and jessica biel and jamie foxx....that one with the ai plane that 'somehow' manages to refuel itself lol

This is probably testing for NGAD AI wingmen.

Humans should be along for the ride (for now) basically as a supervisor and overall decision maker.

Big nope. This is skynet.

@@jlemons01 Australia MQ28A Ghost Bat most advanced AI drone in the world has already been testing with NGAD even has drone swarm AI technology. meaning swarms of these drones can fly together using the AI to comunicate with each other and a manned platform.

@@Narco42 You'll never convince every nation to prevent Skynet when this technology matures. Fighter jets with a cockpit carry a lot of extra baggage to support the meat sack on-board. An unmanned variant not only reduces the pilot requirements of the fleet, but also allows for more maneuverability, range, payload, etc. Keep in mind that even current model jets tend to have much higher maximum G's than the pilot can handle. Unmanned designs can be *at least* as deadly and likely more so.

lol

Hey I'm waiting for the Mark One BOLO !!!

​@@randym7961 me too buddy 👍🙌

yup, resistance is futile...

Amazing how Hollywood can turn fiction into truth.

😂😂😂😂😂

Just like when your cat gifts you dead mice...

Actually Australia gave Ukraine AI drones and ai swarm capable and already been in battle.

Kubrick's Dr Strangelove part 2

Sounds like a good fictional movie.

Modern ohka?

@@2goober4u A bit more complex than that. The "modern ohka" has existed since proper anti-ship missiles were put into service (AGM-84 Harpoon, Kh-22, RB 04, RBS 15F, etc.). These would be full blown fighters with full loadouts and no fear of death.

see Star Trek: "The Arsenal of Democracy" to realize, it can all go out of control rather quickly.

BANZAI!

Luftwaffe pilots in WWII were sometimes advised/trained to do that...

People born in the 40's and 50's have witnessed technological advances so massive it's unreal, I don't think I'll ever know how that feels.

Sounds exactly like mihaly

No. Terminator judgment day is real

"I want to understand the enemy"

AI in a manned fighter learning from the pilot is EXACTLY what Mihaly did in Ace Combat 7, just that we are using F-16s instead of Su-30s. NGAD might as well be called "Raven" at this point since they would functionally be ADF-11s.

Macross Plus.

@@NuclearFalcon146and the ZOE program was started by Belka after the first Belkan war and used data from the final duel between Pixy and Cipher

Yeah. On the other hand, we can be certain that other less benevolent nations are desperately looking into the same tech, and if the war in Ukraine has taught us anything, it's that AI and drones will be absolutely essential to all future conflict.

Sounds a lot like skynet

@@jwill9877 NVIDIA = Cyberdyne

IKR? who had *cities wiped out from uncontrolable, fully armed AI piloted Air bourne overlords* for the 2025 pool?

That's a glitch in the simulation it has to be

Yes, but if you make the planes better, you can afford to spend less. And if you throw enough money at the problem, the problem will become so throughly overwhelmed, and surpassed, that it will become its own solution

but the better the AI is the fewer AI drones we will need to fly to overwhelm an adversary, saving money. So your point is meaningless without both the measure of the drone capability and the cost of each.

AI systems _will_ be better than humans, though.

@@cacogenicist exactly, no reason to develop drones as soon as possible for them to “overwhelm” the enemy by their sheer numbers when you could literally wait 1 - 2 years(with the speed of AI nowadays this should be easy) and have the drones be better than any similar manned aircraft

AH a fellow HLC fan I see

Like every missile we make..

My thoughts exactly

Cordis Die 2025

BO2 with Masons son starts in 2025.

We’re gonna have those titter aircraft just like in the games. We’re using small drones in warfare now. We’re literally living the game.

@@bowencreer3922 Hunter Killer Drones from the games have become kamikaze drones

@@bowencreer3922 omg Australia has MQ28A Ghost Bat most advanced AI drone in the world with AI swarm capability.. it been around for years. MQ28A block ii is in serice with RAAF next year. is bigger version that can carry more weapons as one we seen was just a test bed for the AI.

I wish I could give you more than a "thumbs-up". This is the best comment I have seen on the internet in quite a while. Bravo!

I would like to have androids with the little red light going back and forth on their shiny helmets. That was cool.

I for one welcome our new Cylon overlords

All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

What's a cylon

He'd get his (_*_) handed to him....over and over.

next episode : two morons in an F 14 vs X 62 featuring GS and longshot 😂

GS plays a game, he’s not a real fighter pilot nor could he compete with one in real life 😂

I'm saying, put the AI programs against Top DCS GAMERS LIKE GROWLING SIDEWINDER.

@@TheSgtk9 He’d lose in DCS despite his skill, these programs are too fast and too accurate to beat. It would be like beating a computer in a reaction test.

Need to learn how to fly and also gain protagonist powers on par with Trigger.

@NuclearFalcon146 Trigger was great, but Blaze in AC5 is the peak for me. The nostalgia factor is strong with Blaze.

Now we need an F-22 that can carry over 100 missals.

@@trepan4944personally I like Cypher the best😂💪

Ok but who cares?????

​@@2goober4uMe.

Yes you can have 3D thrust vectoring with a single engine, but you won't have roll...

One step closer every day

Fun Fact: Britain has had a satcom network called SKYNET for decades. I had a small "wall wart" power supply made by SkyNet as well... lol

This plus Boston Dynamics new robot.....we toast

Skynet and Legion fully endorse the USAFs plan lol

@@verdebusterAP I’m sure they do.

Already a drone like this Australia MQ28A Ghost bat been around for 3 years,, America so far behind in this tech it is hilarious.

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At the time of the movie "Stealth", I accepted the Air Force contention that they would "always have a human in the loop, before weapons are released". Unfortunately, that group of leadership is long retired. The new kids simply don't have the experience of technology not working like the old guys. And Terminator 2 is like 25 years old now, so maybe they haven't even seen that one, or Terminator 3 that actually told the story of how the machines took over in the first place. We are boiling our own frog.......incrementally working toward our own demise.

@@i-love-space390 Lol you have no clue on AI algorithms and software, Terminator and stealth are movies made by people with no clue but sniffing long lines of a white powder and making people believe a made up fantasy. You must think light sabres and ewoks are real too. AI is a programme of 1 and 0 made by a human being and the programme is limited to what you programme it to do. This AI is programmed dog fighting simulations made by humans. it can not think all of a sudden to go wipe out a entire city until it runs out of weapons or see humans as a target. This AI has a limit and it probably does not even have tanks or ships added to it's target identification yet. You think this is new. Australia MQ28A Ghost Bat is 3 years old. it has AI and it has limits to what it can do. is a level of AI in all military equipment these days and has been for years.

It also eliminates the risk... which is not always a good thing. Take, for example, the standard "testing" done by nations. Russian aircraft routinely fly towards NORAD/EU airspace and we dutifully send up interceptors. Response is timed, and everyone goes home. Everyone tries to be professional. Nobody does anything stupid (except the Chinese). What happens when the interceptor, or the bomber for that matter, has no pilot? Shoot it down? You kill a pilot and it's a big deal, an international incident... best avoided. You shoot down a drone and, well, remember the last time that happened? Remember the consequences? Yeah, me neither. Like it or not, pilots are often a tripwire defence. You don't shoot them down because killing them creates problems. Losing that could actually increase the risk of escalation.

@@4Fixerdave Good point. I doubt Iran would’ve taken control of that RQ-170 and steered it to their own base by jamming comms and spoofing military GPS if there was a would-be pilot inside. ;)

I could do it

​@@wtbanation6268built different

@@wtbanation6268 Is your name "Trigger"?

@@NuclearFalcon146 callsign Mobius 😂

The f-16 losses energy in a 9g turn ai or human. It has 1 maybe 1-2 9g turn before it has to reduce the turn

America

Belka did nothing wrong

Have to teach AI to enjoy gaming. Then when they're not working they'll just play video games. Keeps them out of trouble. Then again, they might not show up for work either.

Have you not seen the new Boston dynamics videos? Lol