The Airbus A321XLR - Coming Soon? |

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With rumours regarding the first launch customer of the A321XLR, we deep dive into the aircraft's history, mission and future. Where will Iberia fly the aircraft?
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0:00 Introduction
0:33 Market gap
2:32 Launch
3:37 New design?
9:56 Testing
12:39 Conclusion
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Script: Ed Lee
Voiceover: Ric Rosenbaum
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@helmutzollner5496 Ай бұрын

Hilarious that Boeing found a problem with the center tank configuration after having used a similar fuel tank configuration for more than 40 years in the 747 fleet. But I guess throwing a bit of muck at the competition helps to distract the public from the own problems. 😂😂😂

@karlp8484 29 күн бұрын

I couldn't believe my ears, *BOEING* complaining about an Airbus design? What business is of them anyway,it's an issue that has been resolved with EASA and now the FAA.

@helmutzollner5496 29 күн бұрын

@@karlp8484 well, Boeing is very concerned about passenger safety! It would be terrible, if something would happen and that fuel tank would catch fire. They say! Hmmm! 😂😂😂😂 Sure! Boeing are masters in dirty tricks, regulatory capture and lobbying the government, not so much at building their own safe aeroplanes. Look just what the did to Bombardier and the C-Series, where they managed to slap a huge price dumping import duty on a plane which they did not have a competing model for! As so often, when Boeing is trying to protect the passengers from the odious activities of their competitors, it backfired. However, before the cabin door blow out Boeing still thought that delaying the EiS of A350 ULR would help their B777X sales und cover for their ungodly delays in this program. So, pointing out issues with the centre tank served in that way and it looks like the range of the ULR was slightly shortened as well. So, the muck slinging campaign was successful! Boeing are the masters of disaster! They really know how to screw up a project as demonstrated in the starliner, KC47 Tanker, B3737MAX, B787 and the B777X projects. However, the A220 and now the A350ULR are better planes thanks to the efforts and experience of the oh-so-helpful Boeing qdirty tricks department.

@Buledde Ай бұрын

Boeing definitely shot themselves in the leg for not continuing/ modernizing the 757 and go for the 737 MAX. The 757 is capable of mounting bigger engines without major design changes and has a similar seat capacity and range.

@johnchristmas7522 Ай бұрын

Think Boeing lucky, otherwise it could have been a 757MAX also. THERE IS NO POINT TO ANYTHING BOEING MAY OR MAYNOT DO UNTIL THAT MANAGEMENT IS GOT RID OF.

@Sacto1654 Ай бұрын

The A321XLR will likely be certified initially with a range of 4,500 nautical miles with full ETOPS 180 certification for over-water flights, hopefully by late September 2024. Airbus may develop a new fuel tank design that will allow more fuel to be stored in the extra tank and still comply with FAA/EASA safety measures, extending the range to around 4,750 nautical miles.

@fleemwings207 Ай бұрын

I see the A321XLR is an interim development - it is just a development of an existing design, ensuring development costs are low. What will make it an exceptional aircraft will be a new and larger carbon wing. This will dispense with the need for an RCT. A carbon wing will limit any weight increase as it should be lighter than an aluminum wing, even though it may be a little larger.

@johnchristmas7522 Ай бұрын

Brit here, as the CEO of AIRBUS said a few weeks ago, we need Boeing back into production as it once was. It gives much needed competition and helps everyone in the aviation business. Sadly, Boeing has a rope around its neck with that terrible management plus hands off approach by the American government. Thats why Boeing CEO's walk away with such huge amounts of money and NO consequences. The American government, needs to send in the FBI and get prosecutions against the Boeing management because they knowing build aircraft with a risk to the public. Plus it would give a much needed lesson to ALL American businesses, that they have other things to think of rather than just money. Notably the public and their workforce.

@muhammadhanifkurnaen6689 Ай бұрын

Its imposible Boeing "own" goverment

@roamaroundgisg7362 Ай бұрын

I hope Bombardier and Embraer can compete soon enough.

@GThu1 Ай бұрын

In my opinion, it was a mistake to prefer 777X over NMA (797?).

@jhmcd2 Ай бұрын

Not really. If you were keeping up, Boeing can get hyper efficient fuel economy from the massive GE9x engines on the 777. Also, most airlines are looking to retire their A380s by 2030. Even delayed, the plane should come on time to replace that plane and Airbus has no A380 replacement. Boeing originally wanted to replace the 767 with the 787-3 (sort of, but it would have served as one) and the 757 and 737 with a brand new aircraft. It was the A320neo which caused airlines to pressure Boeing into breaking up the project into the 737MAX project and the NMA, and we all see how that went. Now they are back on their original track, but they will need new engine designs to get similar fuel economy to the 777X. Also, Boeing at one point, planed on merging with Embraer and having them developed a new 737 aircraft, but when the EU held up approval, Boeing pulled out of the deal.

@mariosgreek9707 Ай бұрын

Wow, so many false assumption and conclusions @jhmcd2

@AbA-wk7yp Ай бұрын

777X will replace all a380 and 747 passenger aircrafts.

@xkr510 Ай бұрын

Not interested in stepping onto a Boeing. Used to fly Icelandair but they went with the Boeing 737 Max, haven’t flown with them since.

@EpicThe112 Ай бұрын

Good news they're also getting the A321xlr with PW1100G making them A321-271Ns

@johnchristmas7522 Ай бұрын

Try booking through KAJAK, they give their customers the option of which aircraft they do NOT want to fly on.

@EuropeanRailfanAlt Ай бұрын

So are you flying with Play now?

@GisliKarlGislason Ай бұрын

Iceland air will replace their 757 fleet with A321xlr in 2027

@user-vl5tu2fn7r Ай бұрын

As far as take off performance, no Airbus a321 can match how quickly the Boeing 757 can take off. For most airports that is not a problem. But for airports where the runway is not long enough, that can be a problem. The Boeing 757 has a larger surface area combined with slightly more powerful engines. Also the Boeing 757 can hold more passengers. The problem with the Boeing 757 is that it is not as fuel efficient as an Airbus a321 NEO.

@dknowles60 Ай бұрын

YEA

@GThu1 Ай бұрын

Well, that last statement overrules all those disadevtages todays.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Ай бұрын

Not a fair comparison in regards to take off performance. The 757 can’t fly as far as the XLR. The -200 can do 3900 nm. The -300 even less. So if you fuel the XLR for the same range, it will be well below max take off weight and probably have the same or better performance.

@jamillikan Ай бұрын

Forget Boeing.

@dknowles60 Ай бұрын

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 less

@anthonydecastro6938 Ай бұрын

the xlr DOES NOT REPLACE the lr. they will be produced commercially contemporaneously because they have different specs. the lr does not introduce any radical structural elements into the fuselage. the xlr requires an additional central fuel tank which requires structural changes.

@gregquenneville7940 Ай бұрын

My airline has ordered a bunch if these to compete with widebodies. And in fact the routes we hope to operate probably won’t be possible as they are at the projected range limit . Beats me why Airbus didn’t revisit the A310 with modern engines.

@EuropeanRailfanAlt Ай бұрын

A321 is probably cheaper than A310

@davidh3002 25 күн бұрын

I wonder where Boeing would be with a 757 NEO today. Suspect better than where they are today. Only two narrow body planes around with over B757 range these days. I wonder how many here know the other?

@patrickpeters2903 Ай бұрын

Airbus made a wrong assessment with the A380. The problem was the engines. 4 and fuel consuming. BUT except for that missed target, each Airbus plane hits the target. Boeing did the reverse move. From the poplular 737, 747, 757, 767, and the 777, they built the horrific B737 Max. The B787 was full of quality issues from the start till now and the B777X can't be certified after 5 years behind schedule. What a mess. Airbus is ready to lead the commercial aviation market for the next 10 years. Maybe more...

@syedputra5955 Ай бұрын

There was a long range version of A319. Good for 6000nm. But so far no neo version.

@alexanderordinary2110 Ай бұрын

really? one that can carry 150 pas?

@mariosgreek9707 Ай бұрын

I think you are confusing km with nautical miles

@syedputra5955 Ай бұрын

@@mariosgreek9707 the ACJ version of a319 ceo does 6000nm. I vannot see how a neo version cannot achieve this. A long range version of a319 will be a boon to smaller city hubs.

@mariosgreek9707 Ай бұрын

@syedputra5955 ACJ are the Business Jet Versions. No 120 passengers, no cargo ?!

@MrSchwabentier Ай бұрын

@@syedputra5955but it does that with 19 passengers

@user-yq4sp5ij6u Ай бұрын

I think the enthusiasm probably WANED rather than WEANED.

@Aviation_of_Houston Ай бұрын

757 Replacement is the A321XLR, this is ridiculous

@stickynorth Ай бұрын

Boeing really is on the way out when it has no comeback for the A220's or A321 programs...

@Bunnysinger Ай бұрын

Still don't understand why Boeing essentially pushed the C-Series to Airbus, especially if they themselves have no competitor for this aircraft.

@ama6487 Ай бұрын

they thought they were going to get embraer maybe, but they failed

@takingafence Ай бұрын

Wont be going anywhere if its powered by the PW1100 GTF.

@karlp8484 29 күн бұрын

Boeing is not even in catch-up mode. The B777-9 and B737-10 are so late, by the time they come out they won't be better than the Airbus equivalents. Which have already been in production years earlier. And when airlines go Airbus, they very rarely go back to Boeing for cost and efficiency reasons.

@barrylenihan8032 Ай бұрын

It amazes me that a video featuring an Airbus aircraft descends into KZfaq comments either defending or denigrating Boeing. Why can't people stick to topic.

@mariosgreek9707 Ай бұрын

The XLR is going to sell like cheeseburgers. No competition model , paired with the new ability to fly intercontinental. All low cost cariers smell blood in the water.

@daklakdigital3691 Ай бұрын

Talk about sales fluff, must have come out of Aibus' sales department.

@This-Is-Your-Captain Ай бұрын

It’s a 321 with more fuel tank. Reduce passenger loads to carry more fuel. How do you make up for lost revenue? Add premium cabin services? Feels like they are doing what Boeing did with the 737.

@MrSchwabentier Ай бұрын

no, you don't have to reduce passenger loads. The additional fuel is accounted for by a higher MTOW

@TrixityMcLight Ай бұрын

imho, boeings comments about the 321XLR are generally invalid because they need to fix their own maintenance issues regarding current flying aircraft before talking about other companies unreleased aircraft.

@jhmcd2 Ай бұрын

Actually, the FAA and EASA said the same thing. They're holding up certification.

@TrixityMcLight Ай бұрын

@@jhmcd2 I'm not against holding up certification for an aircraft by EASA or the FAA, I'm saying that a company and direct competitor should withhold comments about aircraft certifications of their competitors when their own aircraft seem to have major issues. I'd say the same thing in regards to airbus about comments they'd make about the 777X program

@jhmcd2 Ай бұрын

@@TrixityMcLight It is common practice for Boeing and Airbus to comment on the others designs. Boeing commented on the A380 (which they said was a bad idea and wouldnt sell more than 200 units), A350 and the entire Neo series, and Airbus commented on the 737MAX (which it gave mostly positive feedback at the time) as well as the 777X. Also the 777X's problem isn't with the aircraft itself. It's with the GE9X engines. Like the Pratt and Whittney Geared turbo fans, they were grinding themselves down in testing, so they had to pull the engines off the entire test fleet as GE redid the design. Now, GE has to redo the entire static test procedure before they can go onto the fleet and restart the flight test program. Without doing so, the 777X wouldn't get an ETOPS rating of higher than 90 minutes which is not enough for the routes the aircraft is supposed to fly. The last update I heard was 2 years ago, but they need ether 2,000 or 10,000 (I do not recall which) to get that 350 minute certification. So far, all of the stories about the 777X having other issues are false. Even in the age of the whistleblower, nothing really negative that isn't normal hasn't come out about the aircraft.

@Crocodebil Ай бұрын

just don't install a mcas

@melan0317 Ай бұрын

Words to boeing: Mind your business

@Dan.d649 Ай бұрын

The Boeing 757 is a far better airplane for high performance out of small runways and can be utilized as a pure freighter. The A321 doesn't have the same capacity. The 757 should've remained in production, and if it would've been, it would've outsold all A321 variants.

@michaelosgood9876 Ай бұрын

A321 can seat 244 pax and its cargo hold capacity is larger than a 757. How many more passengers can the 757 200 seat🙄

@uwemai1925 Ай бұрын

757 is good. The overall package of the a321 is better.

@gregquenneville7940 Ай бұрын

At 103 tonnes max weight the XLR is going to be limited to pretty low altitudes for the first few hours. The 757 was a very expensive aircraft to build, hence its demise. In many ways it was ahead of its time-an updated version would have been very popular.

@barrylenihan8032 Ай бұрын

'What ifs' are irrelevant. The reality is that the Boeing 757 is an older less efficient aircraft and has been out of production for close to 20 years. It is not coming back.

@Dan.d649 Ай бұрын

@@barrylenihan8032 When you say "less efficient" what exactly do you mean??

@jone7414 Ай бұрын

For sure i wont fly this... to9 km

@jhmcd2 Ай бұрын

The A321XLR is overrated. Keep in mind, and this is a major problems for airlines, Airbus aircraft rarely hit their range figures. Boeing calculates range at MTOW with 45 min reserves and wind alof, Airbus calculates it in what they consider the nost likely configureation with no reseves (check the performance charts). Also, the aircraft must dedicate large portions of its forward cargo bay for fuel, meaning limited fuel. Also, it uses the new geared turbofans which, and I would need to confirm this, still need to be fixed as its griding itself down. Even if the aircraft gets certification by the end of the year, it wont get the ETOPS cert it needs probably for a few years due to the reliability issues. Airlines are only buying this because the 757 is end of life for many airlines and the A321 in general has lousy performance.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Ай бұрын

Airbus aircraft do hit their range targets. So does Boeing. Boeing does not calculate range with winds aloft. No manufacturer does that, since that makes no sense at all, since you never know what the winds are. Every manufacturer uses no wind conditions for range. And they all use with legal reserves. Only difference is that Europe uses 30 min as legal reserve and not 45 min. I’m also pretty sure the whole idea of the XLR is that it’s not taking away from the forward luggage compartment.

@alicelund147 Ай бұрын

"the A321 in general has lousy performance." Airbus has delivered more than 3000 A321. 91 so far this year alone.

@jhmcd2 Ай бұрын

@@alicelund147 I used to fly one of US Airways trunk routes between two of their hubs. Every pilot I had on board in the jump seat (we used to mine them for when US Airways was going to hire new pilots, and so you know, US Airways is now American Airlines) that flew the Airbus would always say, the A319 is the hotrod, the A320 is the normal on (I forget what they would call it) and the A321 is the bus. Even on some ATC strips A321 are listed as slow climbers. The reason airlines buy them is because they bought into the A320 ecosystem. Up till the Neo, the A321 always had terrible climb and range performance in comparison to the 737-900 and the 757.

@jhmcd2 Ай бұрын

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Check their performance charts. The winds alof are estimate for the average over time. Look up the Airport and parking data for Boeing aircraft. They are connected to the performance charts and they clearly say winds along. I know I just finished reading them. But your also not listening. I said that Airbus aircraft are unable to make their range targets at Max Tafeoff Weight or MTOW. This means, if you max out the passengers, the cargo and the fuel, it cannot make the range targets, it's even on their performance charts. They have a recommended mission load which often times will scale back the number of passengers and fly with a half cargo load (or something close). It states so on their performance charts. Look up Delta Airlines flights from Capetown to Boston forced to divert for fuel. Singapore's A350 fly fuel heavy and light for both passengers and cargo to just make it to Singapore. Delta, who replaced their 777-200LRs with the A350 (I don't know the exact type) has found that they cannot make it from Boston to Capetown or LAX to Sydney without making the aircraft lighter. That's part of the reason for the "geat" cabin experience on Airbus aircraft, it's a trick to lighten the load.