You mean brett not parker?

The idea that the queen was there was much scarier than actually encountering her.

If you return to the reactor area in mission 16 you very clearly hear the queen. Its a deeper, more powerful scream than a regular xenomorph.

I love the fact that if she was there by those words, then not seeing her made that whole sequence in the hive that much better for me.... I KNEW she was there... somewhere... I was glad I never came across her.....

There was definately a Queen on Sevastopol because there are hundreds of eggs in the Hive under the main reactor. While eggmorphing process can create new eggs, it does so much slower than the Queen and it can't make them in such large quantity. I think the Queen was either the first xenomorph on Sevastopol (born from Catherine Foster - Marlow's girlfriend who was facehugged) or she was born through eggmorphing made by the Foster's Drone. That Queen was most likely killed when Amanda purged the reactor (unlike smaller and more agile Drones a massive Queen couldn't escape in time).

The game was perfect, you were running for your life and defending against the xenos, you were NOT triying to find the queen, nor the hive would EVER allow you to do so, why would a giant hive like that let you get so close to their queen? The game was a realistic take on the first movie. Man, a Masterpiece!!!

The fact that you wondered whether or not she was down there somewhere and could maybe even hear her screeching now and again made it terrifying enough, and all the better for what you cannot see. Such an amazing game. Can't believe it hasn't had a sequel.

Still no sequel to this amazing game :(

I still prefer the Xenomorph molting into a Queen theory.

The game creators did say there was a queen, just wasn't seen

I think they made the right call. But we could have seen some more hints at the queen, making the whole journey of Alien: Isolation less ambiguous.

Alien Isolation is canon ? Its totally deserve it

I believe it was a Queen’s reproduction taking place, rather than eggmorphing. Eggmorphing requires people, which is a finite resource on a lone space station. Some eggmorphing could’ve taken place in the early infestations of Sevastopol. However, it is most likely a Queen grew to size at the most populated stage, and the inhabitants were used as mere hosts, rather than both nutrients and hosts. Eggmorphing being involved would be less efficient. It would require a half sum of individuals selected for the unseen morphing, and a select few to be face hugged. Whereas, a Queen can just get the job done then and there.

I saw the queen at Universal Studios during their Halloween event. I was not expected to fight it.

It would have been cool to see a queen interaction towards the very end... making the player assume what could/would happen in the next alien isolation

There's no way they egg-morphed the entire station. Hadley's Hope aliens didn't need to do that. Clearly breeding a queen is high priority to the continuation of the Xenomorph species. It might have been exciting if at some point in the game the player had to run and hide from the queen. It would be different than the usual.

Isolation was PERFECT just the way it was... I kept wondering when I would run into the queen, and thought there is NO WAY you could destroy her with ONLY the things you have... so it was PERFECT to keep you FEARING that confrontation, which is JUST what the game was about. I was totally shocked at the ending bc I was expecting a battle with a queen and it took a complete left turn! AN AWESOME and WELL DESIGNED game!

If the director officially stated that there was a queen, then why is this even being debated?

Never played Alien Isolation, too scary for me.

I remember when I first saw the xenomorph in this game and accidentally stood on its tail then I got my face ripped off XD. Cool vid Also, I totally agree with the decision to not show the Queen in alien isolation just because it's very clear that the game was trying to emulate the atmosphere of the original film and I think having a fight sequence that actually makes the player feel empowered would detract from the feeling of helplessness the game wants to portray

Remember how Ripley was chased by the alien queen in Aliens? Now imagine an entire level where you have to run around corridors and trying to run away from the alien queen. While running away from the xenomorph is useless as they programmed the monster to always catch up to you, which forces the player to move slow and sneak around, in the Queens case, the player would actually be encouraged to run fast, so that the alien queen would not catch up to him. I always got the chills in the scene where, Ripley was waiting by the elevator to get in, while the alien queen was seen approaching from the distance. Then Ripley had to keep her at bay by shooting with the flamethrower, until she could get in the elevator and then close the door. And just when she though that she escaped the queen, it turned out that the queen also learned pretty fast, how to use an elevator. So Ripley saw how the alien queen was also following them with the elevator. Like, if done right, they could have a very stressful and adrenaline filled level where you have to run away from the Alien Queen. I think there is potential in that.

Alien Isolation was a near perfect game and really captured the claustrophobic terror of the original film. I never felt like the need or explanation of a queen present on the station was needed. However in looking back, hints to her presence could have added to the terror. Once the flamethrower was added to the game the alien itself became less of a threat, albeit in only a small degree. Knowing that there was something worse on the station could have help to build up the fear of third act of the game. Now if only we could convince Activision and Creative Assembly to make a sequel so that we know the definitive end to Amanda’s story prior to her passing mention in the directors cut of Aliens.

Do you plan on doing more Alien Isolation videos?

Honestly I like the subtle hints that the Queen is there, the creepy hissing in some parts of the game, and I think they made the right choice in not including the xenomorph queen especially since they are going for a survival horror, the Queen is good for games like AvP, Aliens Colonial Marines, and Fireteam but also I like the developers confirmed she indeed does exist somewhere deep within the Sevastopol station, hearing her hisses and screeches but not having her make a physical appearance to me makes it more threatening because the normal Xenomorph drone is threatening and scary enough but you get a feeling that something much bigger is hidden deep within the station, you don't see our beloved Xeno Queen, but she makes her presence known in the game with subtle hints being her screeches and hisses you can hear in some parts of the game, ultimately I think she is the ultimate orchestrator behind everything, she is unseen but she is definitely there, I believe the Xenomorph that's hunting you and the other survivors on board the Sevastopol are being hunted under her orders for the hive.

Guess you could say that the writers made her appearance... an easter egg hahaha eggcellent idea xD I'm not fun at parties though :/

The idea of a queen being there but luckily unseen/undiscovered is great. It tells you "yeah, she might be there, but dont think finding her would be that easy" which I like, it makes the Queen Xenomorph more threatening. Hearing the hissing, if true, is a great addition, if used well.

This game is the closest thing we have to real Alien horror film love it. This game respects the Alien for what it is, a unkillable perfect organism! Shame Ridley Scott lost that direction.

In the first movie Alien and Alien: Isolation the first people to see an egg were just like, "Oh, what's this? Better stick my face in it!"

Awesome was hoping to see some Alien isolation theory's or discussions. Keep them coming if you have any other ideas. :)

Love your channel! Keep doing what you do!

I always never liked the eggmorphing idea. As much as I love the original Alien, I think Cameron got it right with the queen idea in Aliens. I always thought a lone Alien would begin to morph into a queen since it was the only one of its kind like in the game Aliens vs Predator (2010). I just never thought the idea of humans becoming facehuggers was good.

Personally, I like the idea of a lone Alien using the egg morphing method at first, then when it's supported by enough drones, that Alien then becomes a Queen, the reasoning behind this being that if a lone Alien immediately transformed into a Queen then not only would she be highly restricted in movement but particularly vulnerable while in the egg laying process. Not to say that she couldn't detach from her egg sack if she needed to, but to me it just makes sense that they'd do this on an evolutionary cautious level, Xenomorphs being incredibly hardy survivors after all.

I've been waiting for this. I always HOPED that there would be a DLC where you play as a random Survivor who was unlucky enough to not just be in the Hive, but also encounter the Queen.

I'm mad we haven't got a sequel yet, outstanding game for the franchise.

I honestly think Alien Isolation was a perfect game, they got it right and did it so well and I personally think it can't be improved at all.

One of best games I ever played, the alien universe is amazing and thanks to this channelnis more easy yo understand, the theories are mind blowers!!

You just added a new dynamic to this game for me. I had ZERO clue a freaking ALIEN QUEEN was on board with me. I always had my suspicions but this? This just terrifies me....

Alien Isolation was hands down one of the best games ive played in the past decade. From the atmosphere to the game play imo perfect. When playing I thought there could be a queen, but in my head was totally down that their was just alot of egg morphing since its kinda of creepier. great video!

I take it there was queen, its creepy enough to backtrack place where you dont think you would return and then suddenly hear unusual xenomorph scream.

I think that confirming it's there, unseen, actually makes me more nervous going through this part. (I've literally JUST entered the hive on my first play-through.) That somehow feeds my paranoia about coming across such a monstrosity or even just clues of its presence. Like, if I knew that it was canonically on the other side of some particular wall, yet not actually coded into the game at all, that wall would still freak me out. But, either way, the game is basically perfect, even to someone like me who dislikes scary games. Just have to note that last part. Thanks for the informative vids.

Toys r us is closing down. Anyone remember being one of the first to get the queen toy? :) nostalgia.

I just assumed there was a queen since there were eggs.

I’d love an Alien Isolation remake with mic input as an option to add immersion as well as a queen interaction and gameplay revolving around sneaking around the eggs with the queen near the reactor

I like to think of as this: The first Xenomorph made its way through the station torwards the reactor. As it established its Hive either two things happened. 1- Among the many eggs it produced through egg morphin a queen was spawned and the drone went from establishing a supply chain of hosts to actively hunting and protecting the hive. Or 2- Either the first Xeno aboard the station was a queen from the start and established the hive quickly to spawn more drones or with lack of a queen like 6, the first Xeno became the alpha of the pack and while others hunted after the hive was established the drone went through a transformation into a queen.

Since the aliens are such good survivors and all the experiments that David does to create them I’m guessing that egg morphing is a way to produce a royal facehugger that would in turn produce a queen. Love how there are so many unanswered questions about them

Personally I really like that we never see the queen. I would have liked if she was hinted at more, like in a log someone starts wondering how more eggs and xenos got on board and theorized that maybe one of them became a queen. But not seeing her really works within lore, because her being shoved away deep into the station makes a lot of sense. We only scratch a little into the hive like the marines in aliens. We would have had to go way deeper to see her.

I love the theory of The Legend of the Queen hiding inside Sevastopol.

I friggin love this channel. You somehow have the perfect demeanour and tone of voice for conveying the events of the alien franchise.

Foster's Alien was a queen, not the drone stalking the player. The developers confirmed there was a queen down in the hive. You can also hear it breathing.

Honestly, the fact that there was more than one Xeno was twist enough for me. My brain was fully prepared to accept the Alien 'teleporting' between levels as just games being games.

It wasn't until recently that I noticed that Brett was turning into an egg in that deleted scene (which I've only seen a few times compared to the film which I've seen many times). I like the idea that a lone male alien can still reproduce because otherwise, unless the first alien to be born is a queen, then there is no other possibility. My impression when I first played the game was that they just disregarded Aliens and everything else as canon until I heard what you mentioned in the video about a queen being there in theory but not acknowledged. If the egg-morphing is not a real thing in canon, that means the alien that spawned from Foster had to be a queen, snatched up at least one person to spawn more aliens and then let them do the rest. If egg-morphing is a thing, then Foster's alien could have egg-morphed until eventually they got a queen who could then lay the eggs for them. Egg-morphing as a concept is not very believable to me, even in this universe. If we get a sequel, which we won't, I hope they clear this up.

Even if you never play video games, you should definitely make an exception for Alien Isolation. It has the sounds and visuals that is dead on to the original movie. And nothing is more terrifying that hear a real monster hunting you down the entire time.

they should have added a sequence where you are in a big area and the queen is lurking around while you are trying to complete an objective while power is malfunctioning and scary music in the background.

I think there was a Queen, we just didn't need to see it. Hear it maybe, that makes the hive stage more tense (if possible) than it already was. Knowing she's there...somewhere. Great video again.

I would agree that mentioning and or see a Queen would've disrupted the flow and horror of the game, giving a it a more "Aliens" feel. I think the idea of a hidden, unseen Queen or--as you mentioned--the Egg-morphing was the best way to go about it. I loved the first movie, and the game very much feels like a sequel to it.

I love the idea that the queen was always there hidden. It makes it that more terrifying

I knew this topic had to be here somewhere! A bit late to the party, but I recently replayed this game and it left me with a lot of questions that I am relieved was at least partially covered here. While the gameplay remains excellent, the story is a bit inconsistent with established alien behavior, as it understandably caters to the gaming experience. The lack of a queen has been explained, but why was there only one drone to start with? Why was there two hives, and why didn't the few remaining drones remain to protect it instead of follow Amanda to the Torrens? If I remember correctly, only about a week passes between the Anesidora arriving and the end of the game. Seems like an awfully fast timeline for the state Sevastopol is in when Amanda arrives, considering their population and resources. I would love to hear anybody's thoughts on this, but given that this video is over two years old now I'm just happy others has wondered the same things!

The Queen died when Amanda flushed the reactors, like several of the Xenomorphs did? How many did get out? 3-4?

It’s a known fact now that there was a queen on the station. The developers were originally going to allow her to be seen, but scrapped the encounter because they thought the player would interpret that as leading up to a boss fight But apparently the queen can be heard during the reactor purge but it’s a rare thing and won’t happen on every play through. They scrapped the animation but apparently the audio can still be found

Probably the scarriest thing to think about, that there could be indeed an alien queen somewhere deep down there in the station probably even deeper then the reactor core just waiting, ripley was just lucky to not run into her when she searched the reactor, its probably even scarrier to think if the queen would have become aware that the station was falling and she would die that she would make her way to the higher levels of the station causing ripley to either hear her or see her in an elevator trying to escape for in the end her to be blown off into the gas giant with her nest.

I remember reading that the developers didn’t want the game to end w/ a typical big boss fight and they felt a confrontation w/ the Queen would’ve been too overwhelming for Amanda who wasn’t a soldier. Also, I think the thought of the Queen being there and remaining unseen adds another layer of fear during initial gameplay 🔥 just my pov 👻

Well holy shit...I had no idea! I assumed they went down the egg-morphing route. In my opinion what they should have done is have her in a hidden area, for example behind a locked door in the hive; and unlocking the door was time consuming and involved various steps. The casual player would most likely completely miss this. Therefore they wouldn’t have had to include a battle of any kind - it would just be about catching a glimpse. Hell, maybe they could’ve even thrown in a hidden trophy for it.

The fact we never saw her but knew she was there somewhere made the whole thing that much scarier. She was just kicked back and breeding more Xenos somewhere.

Egg morphing, now that's a horror story! I love that idea.

They made the right call. Isolation is tedious but also allegedly about escape and survival. Going into the heart of the lion's den would've taken away from that,rather than skirting its edges just long enough to flip a few switches and get out

The room of the Alien queen could’ve been a one (or two) time moment when Ripley has to hide behind eggs and crawl through the whole room :)

She did eventually find out what happened to her mom on the Nostromo, but it took a lot of effort from her and others helping her to do that. On top of surviving what happened on Sevastopol Station. Nostalgia. 😱👽☠️

I’ve never understood why they can’t say that eggmorphing and queens are both canon. The former makes sense as a starting point when there’s only a single drone that has to make do with whatever bodies he’s got, the idea that Xenomorphs can effectively start a colony from just one stowaway drone on a ship is fantastic. The latter also makes sense since once a Queen finally finishes her lengthy growth and development, ovomorph production becomes both cheaper and faster, so Xenomorphs can stray away from just killing people and focus more on the more horrifying prospect of impregnating them. Having both in canon would be satisfying and contribute to the theme of Xenomorphs having so many ways to kill you and use your body.

I like to think Drones, like the Big Chap from Alien always spawn from the egg morphing method, while Queens are more likely to produce Warriors, which was the only type of Zeno morphs seen in Aliens.

Personally, seeing a queen wouldn't have made me think a fight was coming. It was hard enough to repel the Xenomorph as it was. If they had shown a queen off in the distance it wouldn't have been a bad thing as long as there was some way to go around without going near.

The writer’s explanation makes a lot of sense. Even vague hints about the queen would have built in expectations of a confrontation, and that would have gone against the ethos of the game. Maybe save the queen for a sequel.

The way i look at it: Eggmorphing is what a lone drone does when it's hatched into a completely new environment or when it's hive gets wiped out. Sort of like a last-ditch failsafe to prevent a hive from dying out completely if the queen and hatchery gets terminated or is otherwise unavailable. It finds living creatures and uses them to morph a couple of new eggs, some of which will be drones to help the first drone and at least one will be a queen to get the hive going for real. I imagine it's probably very taxing for a lone drone to both generate the "creep" (star craft reference for lack of a better word) that makes up the lair AND initiating/overseeing the morphing process for new eggs though so i'm not sure how effective the eggmorphing stratedgy is in the long term from the viewpoint of a single drone. It would be interesting to know if a drone can morph new eggs indefinitely or if there's some sort of limit before it can't take any more and dies. Either way, that's how i look at it. It's just my personal theory and i could very well be wrong :)

There is (although a random event I recall) a hiss/screech that is VERY difficult from the sounds the Xenomorph Drones make in the game. It freaked me the hell out and, although not seen or directly mentioned, that sound was enough to make me more cautious while playing.

A whole lotta “nope!” at this part! I don’t think anyone in their right mind would be down there where that nest is for the life of them. Ripley was lucky she wasn’t infected with a facehugger here!

I think the first drone molted into a queen and didn’t use egg morphing. The reason I think this is because when the first alien burst from the Foster’s chest it eventually turns into a full grown drone. Then people start going missing around the station. This would suggest that the xenomorph was being cautious as it was alone and it was likely kidnapping people while they were alone and taking them to the hive. For example, there is an audio tap(right around after consulting with Apollo) where someone is talking about how they sent someone to go fix something by himself in a separate room and that person goes missing. I think the xenomorph kidnapped multiple people and cocooned them so it would have a batch ready to be face hugged when the eggs were ready. With the missing people cocooned the xenomorph then molted into a queen and started laying eggs. When all the missing people had been face hugged and the xenomorphs bursted through them then that would mean there was a queen with a handful of xenomorphs. Which would also explain why the xenomorphs get more and more aggressive. By the time Ripley gets to the station the xenomorphs are risking confronting multiple groups of people by themselves as their is already a stable hive and other xenomorphs. No need to hid and pick of the people going by themselves. This is supported because when Ripley first discovered the hive after getting off the elevator and finding a flamethrower she says she’s found the missing people. So these are the people who were taken by the first xenomorph. Notice they weren’t egg morphed. Too me, it makes much more sense for a lone drone to kidnap multiple hosts, cocoon them, then molt into a queen and produce eggs to get face hug the hosts and produce more xenomorphs as soon as possible.

Great video love it ! Alien Queen is my favorote Xenomorph she cares for her children she doesnt control she leads them i think she was there Xenomorphs probably blocked the path where the Queen was make sure nobody can get close to her

I would of liked a segment where you as the player would have to run and hide from the Queen shortly after stumbling upon her birthing chamber, or even a segment that has you run from her while doing everything in your power to slow her down by locking doors and setting traps till you reach a safe area or something that advances the plot onwards, just a few thoughts I had on the subject.

Adding Cameron's giant cockroach would have definitely been a vibe kill to this perfect game.

I think it's both. Having the first drone molt into a queen wouldn't be ideal, since now there is no way to keep the new victims safe during incubation. I feel like a hive would have to hit a certain population before a queen would be a good investment of resources.

Tbh, I like the idea that we dont see the queen. Ripley had the worlds unluckiest chance of bumping into the queen when looking for newt, deep in the hive, she had the armaments to defend herself. Amanda cannot even fight 1 alien, so her going up against the queen would be silly, or seeing her from a vantage point would be a waste of spectacle. The point of the game was to make you fear the regular xenos, you werent a marine, so youd never have a chance to go up against them. They were the threat, and your only interest is escape, not finding out were they came from. That being said, I do wish there were *some* hints, maybe when going through the vents in the hive at a particular point of the map, we can hear barley the faint hissing a queen reverberating along the mist filled vents, never seeing....only hearing

The idea of an Royal Facehugger could be the final answer of this question. Remember some terminal reports about Foster, that has stated that the crew of the Anesidora has found the facehugger, who seemed to be dead. Later when Amanda Ripley arrived on board the Anesidora she discovered one active facehugger, but only one. The dead corpse of the facehugger that implanted the embryo in Foster was nowhere to find. This is an hint about an Facehugger that is able to implant 2 embryos. The Royal Facehugger. The queen was there from the beginning of the catastrophe on Sevastopol Station

**Aparently, You Don't Need A Queen if You Molt your Skin or Eggmorph**

Suggesting a queen's presence, but not showing it, was the best thing for an interquel to do. They saved the initial reveal for the end of ALIENS where it belongs.

This is honestly much better than encountering the queen herself

Though I haven't played the game myself, I find myself agreeing with their decision. The goal of Alien: Isolation is to capture the feel of Ridley Scott's 1979 horror classic, and there were no Queens to be found there.

The least they could have done is allowed the queen to make an appearance in the game Amanda didn't have to fight her

Possible theory: original stowaway chestburster to arrival on Sevastopol was a drone, the same drone stalking the player up until the sequence where it is trapped on the detached segment of the station. That drone would have also instigated a hive with eggmorphing to produce a queen. The other drones remained in the hive, while the original continued to traverse the station. 🤷‍♂️

I agree with it. While the presence of a queen is very important in some ways, it would definitely enter my mind as a player that there would have to be a reckoning or confrontation with one. The absence of mentioning the queen means you still focus your concerns on Sevastopol itself and the Alien drones hunting you. While it would have been a cool thing, I agree it would have added a distraction and the game already had a very nice flow between humans, aliens, and androids.

Not sure about the whole egg morphing thing, I know it was a cut scene from Alien, I suspect it was cut because it didn't make sense within the Alien lore/lifecycle. It also suggests we're a lot closer genetically to the Xeno species than originally thought, not really comfortable with that either if I'm honest (although Davids activities certainly suggest this to be the case) I think it's far more likely that a Xeno evolved into a Queen once it got far away enough from her to be able to do so! I love your stuff, keep going! :)

Playing Isaolation, and throwing the Alien into space, I've felt "there's more". Hovever seeing the hive was so terryfying, that I didn't even considered Alien Queen beeing in there. Just wanted to set the reactor for purge, and get the f... out of this Sevastopol station.

I love this game and the whole franchise. A inclusion of the queen in the hive level would have been cool and it would have been great to see a Queen in the background behind a invisible wall or something. Even if it wasn't to appear in the game. A little nod or anything to confirm that there was in fact a queen on Sevastopol would have been nice and something I would appreciate alot. Ultimately I conpletely understand the absence of the queen because after all, This was supposed to be a survival/horror game. Having a Queen boss battle would have been too random for me.

They could've made a sequence where you see the queen, maybe through a vent grate below or above her.

I would have liked to encounter the Queen. I also would have liked a sequel to this game. But we can't have everything I guess. :/

She's down there but I think not showing her was the right move. It was actually scarier without the Queen.

I like the thought that there was a Queen there, but we couldn't see it. Somehow makes the whole experience scarier, knowing that there's something more deadly than the average Aliens and androids in Sevastopol

There is a queen alien on Sevastopol but we just never see it as it creates more fear and an unsettling feeling that she is always there somewhere on the station hunting you. You can hear the queen first in the main reactor when you activate the beta core. You will hear all of the aliens screaming but there will also be a higher pitched one that you can hear and that's the alien queen. This scream can be heard more in mission 17 when you end up having to find an alternate root to the spaceflight terminal as when you go up the elevator it breaks and you end up somewhere else. in this area eventually you will have to pull a lever to cut all power to get a generator to work. This is when the alien queen screams are very easy to hear and it is honestly terrifying and very unsettling as you are in darkness. Earlier in mission 16 if you backtrack to the genimi labs you will be able to hear the queen again as you walk through. The first time I went through this game 8 years ago I had no idea that it was the queen and I didn't know up until 2020 that it was and it made the whole experience way more scary and unsettling. Anyway thats all I have to say and I hope whoever read this had a good day or night 🙂.

Ways a Queen can become is if there is an absence of queen, a drone or xenomorph (for example specimen 6), there was a egg with a royal facehugger.

There was always a hinted Queen even in the original movie. The concept art shows the life cycle of the xenomorph, with the “border” of this picture showing an egg laying xenomorph.

I think the first chestburster was the Alien that stalks you most of the game. Through Egg Morphing it created a few eggs and then a queen. A few guards before the matriarch. The first hunted and brought survivors back tae the hive stations. The Queen took over a chamber she couldnt leave due tae her size, but she directed her eggs tae be spred all over the station as an act of security. The majority of Aliens were guards and egg protectors. After the first Alien was exiled the hive had grown so more could go hunting. Humans were getting rarer so and harder tae find.

Hearing her screams echo through the hive are enough for me. If Amanda did run into her it would have been game over.