one of the best explanations of ohtani's greatness you could get... such fascinating stats

I feel like the Angels are the team that everyone always quietly supports because no one around baseball likes to see talent being wasted like this

The worst part is the angels this year have a better record without trout than with trout

"Has anyone had to deal with this much mediocrity?" Ichiro: Hai

I laughed way too hard at “Angels of Averageheim”.

Blame the ownership. Been an angel fan for 17 years about to be 18, and Arte Moreno cares more about the stadium looks rather than the team

Ichiro and King Felix immediately come to mind. Exactly one playoff berth with a total of four wins between them both, with all of it coming in Ichiro's first season in the bigs. Felix never made it despite being borderline Hall of Fame talent. (He was successful in Japan before but so was Shohei)

The Edmonton Oilers, McDavid and Draisaitl, comes to mind as a modern equivilant. Two generational players surrounded by lacking depth and management.

I knew this day would come

This hurts as an angels fan, it’s bad ownership

I’m not even an Angels fan, so I can’t even imagine how angry this must make their fans

As an angel fan who’s watched almost every game for the past 20 years. It is painful to watch this team fail year after year. We know what it’s like to suck but to have potential and suck is much much worse

The Troutani Days = The Days where Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani entertain Anaheim and management continues to make little to no progression

Youre missing out on the current day Edmonton Oilers, Draisaitl and McDavid are 2 of the 3 highest scoring players in the NHL since 2015 and have just one playoff series win between them and havent won anything since 2017

Love Ohtani. So glad he was able to recover from his injury last year.

Would be a tragedy not to see Ohtani play in a World Series

Really feel like the 90s Mariners do fit this for the Griffey years.

Those 60s Cubs had 3 hall of famers in their regular lineup when Billy Williams is included and still couldn't make the playoffs.

As an Angels fan, I've been saying for the last decade we need to fix pitching. Its insane that its still the biggest weak spot on the team.

I've BEEN telling my best friend that Mike Trout will be one of the greatest players to never get a ring. He's going to be the Carmelo Anthony of MLB.

We've had too many great players have their careers wasted by dysfunctional franchises. This is just so sad.

I did a Franchise on the Angels on MLB The Show and they have plenty of hitters but they pitchers other then Shohei sucks. All I literally did was got rid of Pijols and sign some pitchers and the very next season they end up winning nearly 100 games

One parallel to this situation could be the Chicago Bears in the late 1960s. The Bears had Gale Sayers at Running Back and Dick Butkus at Linebacker. Two generational talents and are still looked at today as two of the best to ever play their positions. The bears did not make the playoffs with either of them

To be fair, there’s a lot of time for Ohtani, and Trout to be even better. Hoping to see them become more legendary than they already are over the rest of their careers.

I think the closest to Ohtani and Trout in sports is with Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid who play for the Edmonton Oilers in the NHL.

The Incredibles background music and reference in the last part makes this an instant like

Man, I do think you guys get enough credit for the time, effort, and research you guys put into these videos. It’s always a goodnight when I can watch these 25 minute plus videos and hear these awesome opinions and ideas about baseball. Keep it up guys!

Awesome vid bro! This makes me think about the Rays and A's which, in contrast to the Angels' bank, have at least gone to the post season recently several times despite their payroll. I'd love to see something about that in the future. Keep doing great content man!

This reminds me of Angels in the outfield....I think we all know what they need to do to win.

The Oilers are doing this right now with McDavid and Draisitle.

I have always felt the Cardinals have been the most consistent organization for building a winning team no matter what. They have great player development and never get stuck in signing large wasteful contracts. Plus, Ohtani and Trout both have had their chances at signing with a winning franchise. They just chose not too. Them two are a rare breed.

I love this…really well done video from start to finish. Cheers!

The Ichiro era mariners also had Felix Hernandez.

I can’t think of a team that’s been worse than the angels when it comes to signing free agents. There owners are Wilpon level the way they give out these dumb contracts.

Thank you for putting all that work in it taught me a lot I appreciate when I learn something you got a new supporter in me

Not as high profile, but the Blue Jays wasted the primes of both Carlos Delgado and Roy Halladay

It will never be as bad as the mariners wasting Felix's career..... When he was loyal as F to the M's

The lions team with Calvin Johnson had 2 superstars Matt Stafford was also on the team and has some of the best stats he also got out of Detroit

Love all your videos and this is definitely one of my Favorites!! Something I find myself saying often since learning about Ohtani his rookie year is “I don’t think people really understand how hard what he’s doing is, and how unbelievably good he really is”!!! I really think if he stays healthy enough to continue pitching all year, and stays consistent with his hitting(which I only see him getting inconsistent if he gets injured and is out of the lineup for an extended period of time) that he has the best chance at winning AL MVP this year. He doesn’t need to have league best numbers in either hitting or pitching, just above league avg in both, stays healthy, and I think he gets MVP relatively easy?? Thought?? Great video!!!!

Ohtani's journey to the majors was unconventional. Usually Japanese players play however many years over there before their free agency (similar to how team control works in the MLB) before being shopped abroad. Ohtani asked his Japanese team to allow him to go to the States earlier just cause he thought he could do well there and they allowed it. Thus, he would earn the league minimum in the MLB and start from scratch. Every team wanted him so they all threw him their pitch, and after he announced that he'd join the Angels he revealed why. 1 - He wanted to play in the American League so he could DH (obvious) 2 - He wanted to play on the West Coast to be closer to Japan (understandable) 3 - He didn't want to play on a team that already had a Japanese icon (meaning no Mariners (Ichiro) and arguably no Rangers (Darvish and that isn't really West Coast anyway)) So that leaves only the Angels and the A's....he would have been a perfect Athletic, absolutely perfect. It would have given the club the boost they needed to be true contenders and as he'd be under team control for however many years, an excellent Beane-esque signing.... I'm assuming he chose the Angels for the city of LA, that the Angels are more prestigious than the lowly (cough) A's, and idk if he really cares about winning as much as marketing his brand. Ichiro is Elvis in Japan. Every old person there knows about the Mariners. Think he wanted his 'team' to be more....presentable. But damn if only he wanted to win more, how awesome that would have been...

“I can’t fucking compete!” Got me so good XD

That clip from “the show” of the dude screaming “I can’t fuckin compete” is hilarious!!!

Shohei Ohtani could be the next Babe Ruth but hopefully he’ll have a title to his name

13:11 That's the exact comparison I was thinking of. Calvin Johnson was a beast playing for Lions teams that ranged from average to abysmal (they did make the playoffs a few times in Calvin's career, but I'm sure much of that can be attributed to Calvin and to a lesser extent Matt Stafford).

Let's not forget that Trout could've easily transferred to any contender team in MLB with probably more than 500M deal, but he instead chose to stay in Anaheim. It could have been the biggest transfer saga after "the decision". You just can't say "Oh, Trout is stuck with a terrible team. What a tragedy."

There are two types of teams. Some are going for championship and others are going to find a way to make money. Angels found a way to make money by having star players. Regardless of standings, the team can sell tickets and t shirts

i have been thinking about Mike Trout in that way for a few years now very glad it has now been addressed at this analysis depth

Coming from an individual that doesn't care much for baseball and only watching Jomboy's entertaining recaps, this video is put together well and kept me intrigued. Well done!

Damn....the Mariners wasted those big 4 all at once

The thing to keep in mind about those Cubs 50s/60s teams is that there wasn't even a playoff, you had to win the pennant in the regular season - thats like the two NFC/AFC teams with the best record automatically going to the Superbowl, it was really hard . Cubs almost did it in 1969 too.

im a brand new angels fan through Ohtani joining the team and I’ve got a good feeling about this current lineup. The main issue with the angels right now is their bullpen, the Angels are very capable of run support for their starters but their bullpen struggles night in night out if they dont get 6+ from their starters. I’m hopeful for the team! and the Ohtani Show has been an awesome ride to follow. Loved the video!

If I were managing the angels I would Invest HEAVILY in your player development and scouting. Secondly, the only players I would be handing big contracts to is their core. That being Trout, Ohtani, Rendon, and Adell depending on how he ends up. But they all seem to be under contract for a while so that step is already done. I’d throw a decent amount of money at a really good starting pitcher too. Obviously they need it. A few medium-ish sized deals for pitching depth and bullpen reinforcement. Outside of the core + a couple good supporting pieces. I’d be going full Tampa Bay Rays mode. Get rid of all the bad contracts and play money ball with the rest of the roster. Get effective players for a bargain price. If some don’t work out… well, it’s still better than their old strategy of throwing big money at players who suck for them. Then you just rely on your investment in your farm system to pay off. Good pieces coming from there can supplement their core, and if any have some high trade value you can trade them off for additional good pieces.

You got through this whole thing and this whole search without mentioning that Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl have won one playoff series.

Ive heard front office people dont want to go there because Artie meddles so much. They have had so many first time GM's because no one who has done the job is willing to work for them.

Watching this in 4/22, great video

god i love your vids, keep it up!!!

There isnt a modern comparison to shohei. Thats just a fact. I'm just glad I'm here to see it.

1:53 so we’re just gonna pretend like DeGrom isn’t hitting .400

amazing video man

The incredible montage was flamesss

You can include Stafford with megaton on that wasted career by management perfect comparison

"Who can forget superstar Cap Anson besides...everybody?" The man that invented Spring Training? No, I did not forget.

Great video!

This video was excellent thank you so much. When the angels won the World Series in 2002 my mom said “enjoy it, it’ll probably never happen again.” Boy was that unexpectedly prophetic lol. I too, ultimately hope we are wrong and that the angles can figure it out.

Pretty simple. Mike chose the money over winning.

I’m a Pirates fan, but consider the Angels my second favorite team. I wanted one team who sucks because they never spend money, and another who sucks because they spend SO much money

excellent video, great work. this reminded me of a secret base/foolish baseball video. i would love to see longer form content like this more often

Loved the incredibles music in the background.

A team that might fit the angles situation is the Edmonton Oilers of the NHL and Connor McDavid. McDavid is probably the best player the sports ever seen and might be the best athlete in sports right now. He also has another top 5 player next to him but the problem is they can make the playoffs. But, every time they do they almost always disappoint as they were swept this year in the first round after McDavid put up one of the best seasons in the last couple decades. The Oilers consistently fail to put up winning teams around one of the best players ever

The Phillies are the angels of the east 😞

i love the incredibles/contract bit with the music

The current Edmonton Oilers of the NHL are probably the closest comparison you can make. Seeing as McDavid is on his way to being easily a top 5-10 player of all time and Draisitl has been top 5 in league scoring three straight years and won MVP in 2020. This year they got swept in the first round of the playoffs, missed last year, and lost in the first round the year before that and that’s with the NHL allowing 16 teams into the playoff every year. I genuinely understand the magnitude of what both of these guys have done but man 2 MVP’s on the team in the last three years and McDavid is gonna win it again this year I honestly can’t decide which team is more extreme in letting down a pair of hall of fame talents. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

Joesph Gordon-Levitt’s dad is never coming for him 😢

Aren't Trout and Ohtani wasting their careers by agreeing to sign with the Angels?

Watching Ohtani throw that splitter and seeing it just drop off the table is a thing of beauty

These front office criminals need to be stopped; great video highlighting this ongoing tragedy

Trout chose to be there. Therefore he chose playoff irrelevancy.[Edit] Also, brother and I have a conspiracy theory Ohtani was made in a Japanese laboratory.

Love the Marvel references! .. This makes me sad being an Angels fan🤧

I feel all of your pain as an angels fan. I wish we could do something with them but arte is just holding us back. But seeing what we've done this off season I have some joy for the future. Also yes I hate the fact that we're called the Los Angeles Angels of Anahiem. I honestly want it to go back to the Anaheim Angels. Because we're not LA.

I have hope for this season!

As an Angels fan….yes.

The Lions wasted Calvin Johnson and Matthew Stafford at the same time

I've never really thought about using the angles in mlb the show 21 but now I have too

“Like a lunatic stockpiling gasoline in plastic bags” killed me

as a angels fan, we know 😢

If you’re looking for comparisons in other sports, McDavid is a pretty good comparable. He’s the best player in the NHL and has had virtually no team success. He also has a superstar teammate in Leon Draisaitl.

I remember the Angels hit 7 homers in one game last season and lost 7-8. It's time to get the hell out, Shohei and Mike.

Part of the reason they can't get to the playoffs is because Trout can't stay on the field. He's made of glass.

Put Ohtani To the Outfield in RF

"What other examples can we find of a team wasting generational talent." Me, a Lions fan: *visibly winces*

What an awesome video

Fantastic video! I enjoyed it and you remind me of Foolish Baseball!

Jordan and Pippen in the late 80’s but then the 92-94 happened maybe for Trout and Ohtani it’ll be 22-24 🤷🏾‍♂️ Similar situation 2 great players made a terrible organization great 👍🏾 Also the bulls were mediocre before and after that era

It’s kinda Trout’s fault though because he chose to resign

Oh I already know I’m gonna really enjoy this video. Thanks for making this. Only 1:19 in lol

As an angels fan I like this video, but also frustrates me. I like it because you are completely correct and what that is what frustrates me. Honestly you can probably do a better job at fixing this train wreck of an organization than our front office. Love the video from a frustrated Angel fan!

Their Starters have been unreal lately! They are 4 games back from the Wild card! They have a solid chance to make the playoffs

Ohtani is MVP

I didn’t think I’d get depressed from your video damn

A shout from the NBA: Tmac and Yao- both top 7ish players for about 5 years, zero career playoff series wins combined while on the same team the entire time. Neither were ever considered the best like trout, but Tmac was in that top 3 discussion for all of his prime, while Yao was the most gifted player in NBA history who injuries turned into maybe a top 15ish player for his era. With that said, he SHOULD have been a top 3 player as well, purely speaking on talent. Great vid!!!