The Anti-Elgi Doomstack

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@paulenan9636 14 күн бұрын

"Let's see how it actually performs on the battlefield" *looks at the video duration* yeah I think they'll do all right

@gijskramer1702 14 күн бұрын

The trollhammers might be needed in the comments here. Lots of slanesh demons here

@danielgloyd4529 14 күн бұрын

A counter to your ambush rant at the end. Thanes have a skill that increases ambush defense by 10, and runesmiths have one that increases ambush defense by 20. Every Dwarf lord except Grombrindal has the ability to get 30 ambush defense as well. Combined with stances (underway and encamp) some traits, plus the tech it's almost impossible to ambush a dwarf army with leveled up heroes. I didn't see the skill tree on all 5 of his thanes, but I'd imagine he has at least 50% ambush defense chance in normal army stance even skipping over the tech.

@darkrite9000 13 күн бұрын

Yeah, generally speaking while you can get a ton of ambush success chance as skaven, dwarves have a lot of ambush defense chance. But if an ambush did happen, it would be a potential problem, as ambush success chance and then ambush defense chance directly fight each other. So if both are at 100%, then the ambush success chance depends on the terrain on map. Otherwise it'd depend on who's got more surplus on their chance. At least based on what I'm currently aware of. But even a 9.5 is not really gonna see any problems in the campaign.

@nukagirl9159 14 күн бұрын

The fact the Elves dared to meet the mighty Dawi on the battlefield and thought they could win means that disrespect gets added to the book.

@90snetworkproductions79 14 күн бұрын

"The only true way to beat Dwarves, make sure you stay far away while you rain arrows down on them! They are dangerous across SHORT distances..." -Likely a cowardly Elgi somewhere, running away like always... 😒

@user-zh1hz1gq1l 14 күн бұрын

SHORT?!

@MrJinglejanglejingle 14 күн бұрын

Dwarves will turn 127, and make one of the following their ENTIRE personality; Mining Booze Smithing Hating Elves

@Michael-kd1ho 13 күн бұрын

"Mighty Grombrindal, we have soundly crushed the treacherous Elgi!" "Excellent! Any losses?" "Aye, two of our irondrakes have perished." "WHAT!? Ugh, that's going in the book!"

@sperera6835 14 күн бұрын

That doomstack handled business so fast that Legend had to pad the run time with a lot of analysis

@Austin-sw3mf 14 күн бұрын

Welp, gonna steal that on my next Dwarf campaign now. Those boys pushed those knife ears' shit in.

@8heimdall8 14 күн бұрын

I love the smell of grudges settled in the morning

@2D_SVD 13 күн бұрын

I think this can be overwhelmed with multiple flying units. Like endgame vampires with their billions of terrorgheists.

@googleforcedhandle 4 күн бұрын

Nah, faced a couple armies with lots of air units, they get completely wiped easily by the torpedoes, in any case I had much more trouble with skaven armies due to their magic and artillery, also their crap infantry that simply have too many units to wipe out fast enough

@Nightmare_52 14 күн бұрын

this is a pretty similar map to when we last saw an irondrake doomstack way back when, what a coincidence loved watching the dragons get nuked out of the sky back then

@Syngrafer 14 күн бұрын

One of the first WH2 doomstacks on this channel as a whole, I believe. Fun times

@mackenzieobrien7579 14 күн бұрын

Are they different since then?

@justinvlaun 14 күн бұрын

@@mackenzieobrien7579 They just got reworked in ToD. Back when the WH2 version was made, the master engineers range improvement could stack so they ended up with 200 range and just insta deleted everything. All of the range improvement skills were changed shortly after to not stack with themselves.

@Nightmare_52 14 күн бұрын

they also used to work like semi mortars and fire big cannonballs that explode instead of more straightline bullets like they do now

@Syngrafer 13 күн бұрын

@@Nightmare_52 I do think they still have explosive damage, but the bullets definitely look less impactful visually in WH3

@AnthonySkubic 14 күн бұрын

"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" - Admiral Generic Lord, probably

@GloriousLastStand 14 күн бұрын

Oh eternal God Emperor. Protect us from the temptations of the Slaaneshi bots

@knightsolaire6342 14 күн бұрын

Someone should send this to Zerkovich

@user-ti4di1uh2d 14 күн бұрын

I actually got ambushed by 4 vampires doomstack and still win with this army. You just need to split like you’re playing Terran in StarCraft and use the unit that’s not pinned to melt vampires units blobbing around some of your units. My version have a lot more grudge settler irondrakes tho. The thing about having only 28 units is that enemies infantry will almost always form a blob when engaging in melee with irondrakes and unlike weapons team, irondrakes have a lot of armor and melee defense they can actually hold the lines very long. The damage output is also very high even when half your army is pinned and you are still able to wipe the first army and setup before second army comes in.

@andrewmcmillan229 14 күн бұрын

Impressive early game doom stack. To make one exactly like this it will take 45 turns to get the grudge settlers, but you could make a similar one probably by turn 30.

@inductivegrunt94 14 күн бұрын

Yeah, I'd say this army performed well. That ought to be more than a few grudges stricken from the book.

@IainDoherty51 14 күн бұрын

THANES AREN'T SHORT!... They're just compact!

@hoomanlel5149 13 күн бұрын

Fun sized!

@xathlak 14 күн бұрын

That new computer really helps. Was so fast and smooth!

@LegendofTotalWar 14 күн бұрын

nope, this was the old computer. I don't have the new one yet

@sp0ckz0mbi3 14 күн бұрын

3:22 THATS GOING IN THE BOOK

@i.k.2485 13 күн бұрын

SHORT?! NO ALLIANCE!

@ericfilipiachado820 13 күн бұрын

I'd like to see a series on crap stacks, like the better ones how practical and powerful they are, i guess I'm not the only one that wants to see this and i hope you could make this happen

@Eliwood29 14 күн бұрын

Well thats certainly not going in the book

@ilari90 14 күн бұрын

* wipes over grudge against Alarielle *

@Tallborn5 14 күн бұрын

@@ilari90 Looking at Alarielle with 5 million bullet holes "Well I guess this one don't need a grudgin' anymore"

@YibbyZibaton 14 күн бұрын

Slanesshi Bot Doomstack when?

@michaelmills8257 14 күн бұрын

This is why I never do the dwarf end game crisis.

@DrDouche75 14 күн бұрын

DAMN! that dawi firepower is always a pleasure to see!

@xensonar9652 14 күн бұрын

Warhammer Fantasy vs Warhammer 40,000

@pistaciafilblarissa6193 14 күн бұрын

Didn't see it mentioned in the comments but Thanes have a skill that gives 10% ambush defence to the hero's army, so the ambush weakness of this army is heavily reduced

@paleface171 2 күн бұрын

A throwback to the warhammer 2 troll hammer stack.

@kraboviisup 13 күн бұрын

Too many dwarves died for just 3 thousand of elgi cowards

@benbiddiss336 14 күн бұрын

I just found my second wh3 campaign! Thanks Legend !

@justinvlaun 14 күн бұрын

Dwarves just really be eating good with army variety after ToD. This is also the third iteration of a trollhammer doomstack, I can't think of any other unit that has even had two show up on this channel.

@0KOrbU0 14 күн бұрын

That was a short battle.

@daedaulus6826 14 күн бұрын

SHORT?!

@blakeisthebeast 14 күн бұрын

Even a couple troll hammers are just plain fun to use. Feel nice and punchy, super satisfying to see a single entity get wrecked by them

@claudiurazvanvanan9506 14 күн бұрын

Beautiful

@dotmadhack 14 күн бұрын

The Dawi said enough is enough with the short jokes and now their anger erupts across the battlefield. Every single one of their doomstacks seem to do very, very good.

@ArukGrd 14 күн бұрын

Cheers❤❤

@aleckazamproductions8139 14 күн бұрын

Commenting for algorithm Hoping for more historical soon

@SkullivanBones 14 күн бұрын

Careful, this is a fun missile doom stack, CA will probably nerf it!

@srgfreaky 13 күн бұрын

2 casualties.... UNACCEPTABLE!

@mackenzieobrien7579 14 күн бұрын

A very precise thumbnail

@VoiceofAltdorf 13 күн бұрын

Need to try this out fast before fun police gonna nerf it.

@Xiteri 14 күн бұрын

Grudge Settler fire weakness debuff + Irondrake Trollhammers + large Tree unit enemy = 11/10 , but that's just one of the wood loving avelorn units , the rest are just pointy ears.

@brunogattolin9782 14 күн бұрын

That phoenix was reduced to hot wings in a matter of seconds

@shavy7734 14 күн бұрын

Calling the phoenix a fire chicken is foul.

@jdbq2000 13 күн бұрын

Oh it's fowl alright

@sixspense794 14 күн бұрын

The anti everything doom stack

@Terragan 13 күн бұрын

Really enjoying these doomstack videos. Data nerd here. Is there a possibility you can make like a spreadsheet of the top 10 doomstacks based on your rating? Would be really fun data wise to see if there is a pattern of some sorts.

@acheron16 14 күн бұрын

Those Irondrakes sure fried that chicken good

@thecursed01 14 күн бұрын

that's one of your grudges removed from the book for this glorious battle

@quwarq 14 күн бұрын

I guess I will play Dwarf once in Warhammer 3 as well. *grabs the BBQ sauce for all manner of beasties

@Mathax92 14 күн бұрын

You missed each of the Thanes can provide 10% ambush defense stance. So with the tech you can reach 70% base ambush defense chance.

@thegreatestbaldeagle2999 13 күн бұрын

IT’S ANOTHER ELGI SCHEME!!

@ottovonbaden6353 14 күн бұрын

Not sure how it would work, but I'd love to see some Doomstack vs Doomstack coverage.

@simonkarsten272 14 күн бұрын

Torpedoes are big and heavy objects, but somehow dwarfs can carry already a lot of them casually. Then there are a bunch of thanes that somehow enable dwarfs to carry three times more. Somehow people question the strength of dwarfs 😂

@Tom_Cruise_Missile 14 күн бұрын

Lore wise, dwarves are unbelievably strong. The gotrek and felix novels that feature other dwarves shows this, even side character dwarves are terrifying.

@Xiteri 14 күн бұрын

And then imagine how much ammo an engineer type of support can carry, if they can replenish dreadquake mortars, steam tanks, queen bess and other huge caliber from being on-foot.

@BloodyArchangelus 14 күн бұрын

@@Tom_Cruise_Missile dwarves are basically S-word CLEVER CLEVER ogrins. with some marines traits.

@erikthedancer 14 күн бұрын

Reminds of the pre-nerf waywatchers doomstack.

@jangiurg5295 14 күн бұрын

I thought the ranged damage buff on engineers for the whole army stacks, so if he added at least one more engineer you could pump up those damage numbers even higher.

@ArmouredRawne 13 күн бұрын

Handmaidens of Avelorn should have access to restock

@arthurguchelaar1442 14 күн бұрын

Nothing like dead elves

@Scaphism36 14 күн бұрын

There’s a mod that doubles the range of troll hammer torpedos and it’s absolute bliss

@I2dios8 14 күн бұрын

Something something no views, ten seconds... eh, you know the drill...

@danielgloyd4529 14 күн бұрын

I run a similar army but I swap 1 or 2 thanes for runesmiths to increase damage 10% and 10 armor also reduce enemy missile resist 20% you also give yourself an extra 20 magic resist for any random spell they throw at you.

@TheKarofaar 14 күн бұрын

Short Fried Chicken

@ryaneggert112 14 күн бұрын

I did the same concept and burned down Ulthwan!

@utahraptor3523 14 күн бұрын

The thanes also have flammable attacks

@erencanayhan8514 14 күн бұрын

Making this army with grapeshot cannons instead of grudge settlers also instead of thanes putting more trollhammers and couple more engies actually makes it much more powerful. You need to start as malakai then get grombrindal tho, so it takes abit longer to pull off

@Assassinss77 14 күн бұрын

'Just something of a minor checkerboard formation' (2:09) Got it? Because they are small.

@tacosrule2312 14 күн бұрын

Hey, I was wondering if and when you're moving your units you can cite the keybinds / methods you use to position your army. I spend a bit of my time selecting and positioning single unit groups and would love a quick explanation! Ty

@josiahstreetman8806 14 күн бұрын

Skarsnik and a bunch of nasty skulkers would maybe give this atack trouble.

@DeadlyNightshadeZ 14 күн бұрын

"It's actually good to be short in this situation, so you don't shoot your own troops." SHORT?!?!?!?!?

@deadfichboat 14 күн бұрын

I want to see this army against more artillery, like Chaos Dwarfs, Skaven, Empire. Can lose a lot while moving into range.

@MrNickW123 13 күн бұрын

So anyway I started blasting

@KingofGeo 14 күн бұрын

He needs to swap a couple Thane's for Engineers to boost speed on the troll hammers. That said I use a similar stack and love it, it is not invincible but it is a lot of fun.

@Loj84 14 күн бұрын

I don’t see any reason they really need more speed. Thanes apply flammable, give a bunch of ammo, are a lot better at tanking, and provide ambush defense chance.

@KingofGeo 14 күн бұрын

@@Loj84 I still have a similar build, just with 3 engineers and 3 Thanes but my guys move faster so we can reposition against Calvary heavy army's plus I have more smoke bombs, but to each their own as this does the tar pit a bit better.

@houlinfan4140 14 күн бұрын

Feel like this army would get overwhelmed by a lot of cavalry, sometimes warzag build savage orc cavalry armies that might give this army a run for its money.

@psychodoxie6987 14 күн бұрын

I remember when legend was scared when he played a Western empire save

@fl4k4tt4ck8 14 күн бұрын

I think you forgot the extra ammo on the engineer as well and the thanes have flammable attacks

@perrymeril 14 күн бұрын

Surprised it wasn't a boltthrower doomstack

@Xiteri 14 күн бұрын

Or a Chaos Knights of Slaanesh Lances (80 charge bonus now) + Fiends (16 models + Strider now) , fiends to tie up enemy, knights to +160 charge bonus flank. (not tested , just 5.1 relevant unit changes), would test in campaign, but vassal income are currently bugged so paused my nkari run. (love Strider addition on all the units though, makes running through high elf forests and hills a lot less annoying and taxing on fatigue/speed)

@putinhuiloooo 13 күн бұрын

гномы железные ящеры чертовски сильны. я по квесту малакая разбил армию возвышенных сланешитов с 0 потерями. Thank you

@ronaldmahan8417 14 күн бұрын

How do you move as formation without grouping? Also that rotate and stuff. Id love a video on that. Makes checkerboards and the like a lot cooler to use in my opinion.

@baeromir 14 күн бұрын

Highlight them, hold alt, and click drag to move them

@12SickOne34 14 күн бұрын

have you tried using the ctrl and alt keys while dragging your troops around?

@petarg1986 13 күн бұрын

Thanes and Runesmiths give ambush def chance as well, so I doubt this army can be ambushed

@julianbraunbeck7632 14 күн бұрын

the only thing i could see this being really weak to would be massed artillery

@Kamiiboyy 14 күн бұрын

Hi legend

@micheleassoni7019 14 күн бұрын

for dwarfs enthusiasts:do you think that thunderbadge doomstack is still viable(after nerf)?what are you opinions about gyrobombers?

@matthewwalton450 14 күн бұрын

Did he have the legendary grudge settler enchanted item attached that grants extra range for the army it’s attached too?

@zyhgar25 14 күн бұрын

Not the fire chicken :(

@grantpaterson1016 14 күн бұрын

3000 Elves dead, TWO Dwarves....... I see a grudge coming :( lol

@tronic47 14 күн бұрын

would it work with belegard aswell?

@nailigniststarzear6689 14 күн бұрын

while other are easy to get...still need like 45 turn need for that 3 GS irondrake

@Killord101Adam 13 күн бұрын

Sometimes less turns If you confederate a strong dwarf faction, you can get their grudge settler units

@allanhallah6038 14 күн бұрын

wouldn't it have been better to trade some of the thanes for more engineers? you'd have less line holding power but you'd still have plenty of ammunition and more killing power and speed

@chocho6766 14 күн бұрын

meanwhile sister of avelorn recruited at tier 4 building got limited ammo

@ezrakristianto8069 14 күн бұрын

SHORTT?!!

@de-landen885 13 күн бұрын

So what is the best dwarf ranged?

@Vanq17 13 күн бұрын

Couldnt Eltharion theoretically hold out longer than the dwarves? The Restock ability has limited uses, but Eltharion gets an ammo regen buff that as far as I know is unlimited.