why do we believe we know it all, im afraid i do the same with the pyramids so dont rule out the genious of man?

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What do you know about the Greek god Janus

Parts of the video suggest the Antikythera was a work in progress. The device found was an evolved version of fewer, earlier designs as yet unknown. The basis for this was that it was not created overnite by Archimedes (or someone like him) alone but may have been, like Sir Isaac Newton once said, I did this by standing on the shoulders of giants. It may have been the sum of centuries of contribution. It would make the written timeline mesh with this magnificent monolith staring back at us.

These discoveries, super exceeds ancient theories, e.g. atlantis , amazing archaeological structures found are evidences supporting authenticy

thanks man!

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I watch these at 1.5 to 2.0 speeds so it just seems like a documentary! 😃

Well we can discuss for hours about the reasons that today's Greek scientists are not very competent. Instead, I will use the following explanation; Cycle of civilisation.

@@bozo5632 well,compared to each's time i think

Everyone who wants to be a demigod should have one of these. Not only did it predict sun and moon eclipses. It also predicts the Milankovitch cycles. Eccentricity 223,000/111,000 years galactic orbit. Precession/Great Year 25,900/12,460 OBLIQUITY 4 quadrants of galaxies electromagnetic magnetic north in keeping with the galaxies electromagnetic Toroidal fields.

@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. well, in the medical science we have invented antibiotics and the cure of many diseases. We can operate someone without opening the body... and a lot more. Bare in mind, that the Greeks did not invent that mechanism, they must have got it from Egypt from the antidelivian world. The previous human race was smarter, stronger and more. beautiful than ours, what can we do?

@@margasa7 There is not the slightest bit of evidence thay Egypt is involved in this mechanism. It is doubtless that the greeks invented the mechanism, and a greek engineer crafted it ( most likely the sudent of archimedes). Poseidonius did have one for example. What can we do ? First of all not spread unfounded unscientific bs.

Yes, you learn more from your mistakes than you ever do by confirming what you already know to be true

Your Wrong. Das is incorrect

But I am correct

I worked with a great electrician when learning my trade. He once said to me I can teach u sumthing. You can get it right 1000 times n learn nothing but get it wrong once and I will remember it and learn more. Always stuck with me

@@nickjohns1192 ... in this "whirld" the be all, and the end all, of everything, is ALCHEMICAL ALIGNMENT, determined, directed, deseminated, and governed, is ultimately captured, kept, and bound up with POWER-!!! The knowledge of which, lies with the secret societies of ancient mystery schools...

I love your "out-of-control stagecoach holding on to your hat" analogy. Made me laugh out loud with the visual it triggered in my head. 😂👌🤠

@@lievenyperman9363 Yippee Kyay!! Most gracious thanks.

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@@c.e.anderson558 TY. Now even more hopeful.

Considering the Greek god Janus - 2 heads looking forward and backwards into time simultaneously- I feel this can be connected to j f k - I now want to find the moon phases on his death and also an 80s rock sat believe it or not named jani lane - born John Kennedy Oswald - he died 8-11-11 in room 118 of a comfort in that is now been changed to be called the 818 ascend hotel - here’s the kicker jani means yani or John - there is a Janus island on each pole of the earth and he sang as fluently backwards as he did forward - see JANI LANE NEVAEH (heaven reversed) there is a huge connection to the Greek god Janus and the jabberwocky- in Louis Carroll’s novel through the looking glass - if you think thieves rediculous - ok, but is there anyone that has more insight? Some believe many celebs n stuff are reincarnated from the Egyptians but I’m seeing a much greater Greek connection - any input? Just throwing it out there -

Indeed it certainly seems to have had some interesting lubrication technics. Probably a few patients hiding in there!

There’s a KZfaq channel all about the process of making the replica using legit time period tools and techniques, but nobody wanted to stump up the money for all that, they’d rather drop billions of dollars of bombs on goat farmers

Honest question: Since you have these skills, why would not someone have them over 2000 years ago?

@@asage5801 Logical answer would be it is the "Bronze Age" so "steel" files did not exist yet. Cutting the gear teeth would have been extremely difficult (EVEN "WITH" A STEEL FILE) all done by hand. I propose that even TODAY, it would have been difficult to conceive such a device.

@@bunzeebear2973 we know that the Greeks took many secrets from the Egyptian priests. Clearly the Egyptians knew how to cut “hard” things and kept that a secret. We also know that Greeks studied with the Egyptians. I’m thinking that they used a reverse pantograph to make the precision cuts with a vey hard gem or stone at the working edge. They also may have heated the metal a little in order to soften it slightly.

I would not be inclined to assume that the teeth were hand cut if only because, given the apparent level of skill and ability of that time, surely it is very possible that a machine method of cutting teeth may have already been produced with no extra or additional skills to those demonstrated already by the Antikythera machine. Just my initial thought. I think Dr Tony Freeth presented and explained the whole subject incredibly well.

@@philiprock131 - machine-cut teeth raises the tech level by another mile or so! they'd need to design the machine to cut the teeth - and each cog would have needed its own template for the different numbers of teeth. probably the same machine could do it, but parts would need to be changed for each new cog, with the machine reset each time ...

So, what was Archimedes Principal? !! Get this finished in time to start the Olympics before the Due date of arrival 😁

They were far more advanced, after armageddon the "elites" withheld all knowledge. Tartarian mudfloods and liquefaction event, sun plasma discharges, the phonecians ie Irish (druids) and moors then held power. That mechanism is a basic piece of their machinery. They use frequency technologies and ether energy.

@@sovereign7312 - your sources?

Not lost in time but deliberately hidden and removed from conscious history with the purpose of feeding us the story that we are a breed of human ignorance. We are supposedly some near ape men, just grown out of the stone age, with limited brain capacity and a need for world leaders and supercomputers to make decisions for us. We, as humans, would view ourselves completely different if we knew our race were here on earth for tens of thousanda of years, with all kinds of sophisticated and advanced societies. That's all in our dna, but wr are not supposed to know that

Most defenitly!!

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The "level of sophistication" of some ancients is remarkable and ranged broadly from technology to ... everything! For example, it appears that the extremely sophisticated Athens lost to (relatively less sophisticated) Sparta as a result of a strong, nascent move to ban slavery. The move to ban slavery inspired resistance by some wealthy Athenians (including Plato's uncle!) who conspired with Spartans to defeat Athen's democracy. I wonder, had Athen's not been betrayed by its own wealthy citizens (sound familiar?!) where would our world be now?

Yeah the viking swords they found quote "The famed Ulfberht Viking swords were made of metal so pure it baffled archaeologists. It was thought the technology to forge such metal was not invented for another 800 or more years, during the Industrial Revolution. About 170 Ulfberhts have been found, dating from A.D. 800 to 1,000" we should be rethinking the intelligence and time-lines it's pretty easy for things to get lost from a natural disaster plaque or war back then!

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@Horrid Henry what is?

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@Horrid Henry every time I record audio when I rewind it there is a Demon speaking to me

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Don't forget to mention Sun and it's Orbit AROUND the Earth.

Beautiful comment, just enough … well said sir.

who needs that machine thing. all we need to know is that the sun is over there an then its over there. same for the moon

I have often thought this, not only about the Greeks and Romans, but so too about the Egyptians, Chinese, Arabs, and Indians. They knew *so much*.

The dark ages isn't even close to a rock bottom. The barbarians who laid the last blow against an already internally imploding society wanted to be more like them. Todays cultists want to destroy all we have.

nonsense. the "greeks" were constantly at war one city against the other. they owned slaves - on average 5 slaves per household. Aristotle had 5 himself. also this "mechanism" is just assumed to be greek. we have no evidence to substantiate that.

@@ruralcoder it was exactly on topic but you did not get it did you? secondly on the nonsequitur - even if i were a turk why would i be bitter? if i were a minoan I'd be bitter maybe.

@@zarni000 really?

with such a complex society, there must have been a need to be able to not only tell time, but predict lunar cycles, tides, and other things that would affect trade. people were constantly sailing to trade goods, so a device like this could have been very helpful

@@DachampsterStudios I had heard about this device many years ago. But this is the first time I have head a comprehensive explanation about what it did and how it did it. I don't know if it would help with longitude.

Babbage apparently was difficult to work with. Then on top of that you have to consider how prevalent our intricate technology is today compared to how many people could actually build a modern computer or even explain how every component works, not many can yet many can still learn. The way that Babbage had proposed his differential analytical engine is also similar to somebody today proposing to build a computer built on different principals to conventional methods not fully explored yet. At least that's how I perceive that situation. The ancient people's command over mathematics was definitely much more advanced than most give them credit for though.

It also makes we wonder, how long ago did they calculate all these celestial movements before they started to build this device. And, how many failed devices before the final one. I wonder what else we haven't found.

@@weareallanimals I think the remaning techs and knowledges are in the underwater

Imagine how it feels for us, Greeks. It's so damn overwhelming knowing we can never surpass our forefathers. But it's an honor knowing what we set in stone about how the world should be, exists through USA currently etc.

@@hermespsychopompos8267 Y'all that stupid you can't ever surpass your ancestors nor be equals lmao?? That's sad...

@@DrixMaloneDFS let us not be rude please.

Isnt it sad that one man can control the global CITIZENS, of all nations?? What's worse is that WEF started in 70s to dumb global CITIZENS, to a point that they want to make a country, that's paid for more people globally, which they are porpusly making that country as 3rd world.... Why the hail would anyone keep true history locked up, and create a narrative as to sell to the CITIZENS?? It's sad how much more could be found and theorized about!! Speaking of theory..why would 1% of world population insist on teaching race theory, and other critical theories making people dumber...instead of allowing more intelligence to learn past tools to use today??? Critical thinking went on vacation and left uncle theory in charge of chaos!!

Sorry. It is NYLE PHOENIXIAN / Khametic, NOT Greek. Greeks were TECHTARDS.

They're lying to you, everything came from black people

@@dealsed7544 lol good one.

@@b4ds33d I’m serious.

The guy building the replica is an ozzy, he’s got a KZfaq channel about the process using time period tools and techniques

@@dealsed7544 You're seriously delusional.

I believe humans are losing intellect compared to these people

I remember having read about this mechanism many years ago. I thought at the time that it is an orrery.

@@aloyisiuspeters8913 Me too, what a wonderful bit of reverse engineering. I can’t wait to hear more about the manufacturing / gear cutting machining.

@@lawrencepevec517 19 minutes into this documentary you will perhaps find a clue, that the manufacturing was done very simply by the use of Hellenistic Geometry and a swift and steady hand with a file. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLmBgaiBx7ezmX0.html

Stanford is really spoiling me with these lectures. Loving saposkys series on human behavioural biology

This mechanism has the ability to show any thinking person that doesn't already know the Earth is flat , that indeed it is flat .and motionless. And the Sun and the Moon are equal in size and approximate distance from the surface of our flat textured plane that we live on

Take a look at the Holodomor

@L.aE.cH. Empire Take a look at the holodomor

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The library of Alexandria going up just hits me in the pit of the stomach from the loss. A Chinese emperor did the same thing. I am Firmly convinced that human society goes completely mad every 10 generations or so. Come to think of it, I think we are in a period like that right now.

It wasn't destroyed in a fire, just gradually neglected over time and funding eventually cut off.

it surely was based on knowledge coming down from older civilisations, just like medicine for ex

Definitely wasn't the Greeks

Are they Blac?

@@Tmac_305 there's greek written on it it was shown in the video

about what we think of ourselves and of progress

@Steve M It shocked me also both realizing this discovery and the title came in shocking me with hindsight. ROFL 20/20 🤣

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@@janobara6337 LMFAO YES

Look up electrocution, now that’s shocking

If you say so...

@@persebra 👁️ say so...

@@persebra Wow. Deep.

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Agree: it's not the sort of instrument used to run a brewery, woolen textiles, manufacture of swords, or consumer goods. It's a special item useful to navigation, cartography, or civil engineering.

@@sltomsik It also isn't useful in navigation. It CAN be used to compute significan political dates (eclipses), planned game events, dates for celebrations, anniversary events... and possibly some astrology.

rather unlikely as it has nothing to present for navigation. Had it been for that, I would have expected it to have possible destination locations, and star positions instead of eclipses and game dates which would be more for political events.

@@jessepollard7132 I know Astronomy and Astrology, but I'm not a Navigator, nor a Mariner. I designed & wired up a digital clock drive and servos for my home telescope. Precision to 0.6 arc-sec for photographing Messier objects and nebulae. I find my way by stars outdoors at night in wilderness camping -- or used to. I'm a geezer now, don't sleep on snow fields anymore But I wouldn't trust my eye to guide a ship. Still, the discovery reminds me of the Siderial clock drive on a telescope mount. More complicated than the ones I used.

@@sltomsik Good going. I used to help set up a telescope for an astronomy class. The clock is needed to keep things in view. it is also needed for navigation (it is the ONLY way to determine a longitude, and still requires a known point for local time, so that the local time minus the reference point clock can give the longitude. And this is also why the Antikythera Mechanism is useless for navigation. it cannot be used to determine either latitude or longitude. thus cannot provide the necessary information.

Lmao you mean Afrikans...

@@DrixMaloneDFS you do not declare your origins may be you are aristocrat!!!Hahaha!

You mean after we weed our way through the misdirection and lies fed to us by the current day narrative?

Enjoying + admiring the comments as well…Heady stuff! Thank you to all commenters

The latest thought about the Alexander Library is that it held many unimportant works. and that the very important works of science and philosophy where in other libraries all threw the ancient world. Most works that were written on papyrus literally crumbled away under the weight of other papyrus scrolls. The ancient world had useless and pointless writers just as we have today. The rulers of Alexandrea were known for excepting any bodies writing so they could boost they had more books. Traders from all over the known world would bring scrolls to Alexandrea because they knew they could make some money. Important works were copies and recopies and the rest was of no value.

I wonder if the ancients found it somewhere and didn't know what it was either.

theirs a documentary out there that the Vatican actually has most the stuff from the library as it was moved out of Egypt and into the roman area by Ptolemy .

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Exactly what I thought..This device is definitely to sophisticated to be a one shot. It more gives an indication of just much we have underestimated our ancestors.

That is a good thought. Hats off to the metallurgists of the time.

Imagine a workshop somewhere pumping these things out every few days. All the gears being cut from jigs and whatnot. If they could build this, they could easily have built tens or hundreds of them.

@@User0000000000000004 this isn't a mass produced device

If it was thousands of years old the knowledge could have been lost and it might have been the only one

Did I understood correctly, that the dial had cca 230 months? In that case, isn't it correct that the dial was usable for only 12 years before it became inaccurate?

what a bunch of wind-bags. modern science is interested only in appeasing investors. education is indoctrination.

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Acknowledging, right here and now!!!

Thank you all, you are wonderful xxx

I think about this every day

When a human being creates a machine, he or she always does that step by step. This raises the prospect that you soon will be able to reconstruct, word by word, what ancient people have thought and spoken. There has been a continuous flow of contacts, imitation, and other influences, from the antiquity until today. Once even better computers than those of now will have arrived (e.g., optical devices), it should become possible to trace back much of the lingual work ever done on the planet.

was it burned with the books inside or did they go to the vatican......before the destruction ??

Or maybe t's under the Vatican??? 🙄

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Like I said 20 years ago, it's clear to see humans are devolving again. They couldn't even build a pyramid today as perfect as 200.000 years ago.... Dr. Freeth is a Master in many things yet talks like he has a learning disability, if you talk like that in my country in primary school you need to redo your year all over. He takes pauses every couple of words, it's so bad, maybe that's how British people talk but it shows they are slow, he constantly needs to grab the words he wants to use, we see this normally when people have a huge language barrier or learning disability. He said "uhm" over 5000 times in one hour and half. We fail class in oral exam if we say "uhm" 1 time.

@@NoMaYT_ Clearly you neither have basic knowledge of linguistics nor psychology otherwise you would have a better understanding of the mechanisms at play here...

Humbling, isn't it? To know that some person, 2000 years ago, created a device that only a miniscule fraction of our CURRENT population could emulate. For me, it reiterates the importance of teaching science and analytical thought in schools. Civilizations always fall. Ours will one day too. But preserving knowledge past those hard times is the best way to both forestall that inevitability, and assuage the impact it will have on future generations.

@@DaveDEF82 true that

Great presentation. However the heliocentric explanations are absurd since those false theories hadn't been conjured up for another 1400 years after the device was constructed.

@@flatearthterrafirma8571 I have to admit, the presenter said it best himself; "Keep It Simple Stupid", and the system we follow today is a far more complicated model of the same machine we just watched get deciphered from over a thousand years ago.

Geocentric is a bad idea for those that refuse to believe in God. That is why it is not popular. People think they are God.

If more college lectures were like this, more people would be in there and graduate, even make it through a class. And I’m 26. This is refreshing. He gets it how to keep an audience.

About time you start learn listening to what is told.

It’s amazing what the man/women, are actually capable of when we put our minds to task, the period in which this was made, is absolutely mind blowing!

@@user-ds6uc2hx3f indeed

Excellent lecture, I listened in bed one night and had to miss work the next day but it was well worth it!

Yes they are so wonderful and I was amazed.a lot of effort have been put in this indeed.😄.I would love to learn more you know.

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What

Maybe they're cast not milled. ?

Perhaps Atomic Emission Spectrometry (AES), Inductive Coupled Pasma (ICP) or Atomic Absorption Spectroscopy (AAS) testing can tell not only the source for the copper and tin mines based on it's molecular fingerprint,, but also help date and locate the epicenter of that technology based on the percentage of the alloy composition.......like they have done with silver/gold and brass hollow ware from 17th and 18th cent. Europe??

@@kennethhamilton2499 ever considered the Phoenicians? They traded in copper and used astronomy to navigate the Mediterranean, they also gave us the Bible, which is an astrological allegory for the age of Pisces, something that only the mechanism was capable of divining

Too accurate for a cast

@Aurora Peace don't even get me started, omg. The Adena in Ohio worshipped the Hand of Orion, that's the literal name of Betlegeuse. It's also where we get the Persian Hamza, and it featured on Phoenician tombs in Carthage. They also used the same Metonic Lunar Solar calendar, and erected a Shiva Lingam every 20 years, to commemorate a King's rule, just like they did in Egypt, same solar observatory Pyramids, and Stonehenges/ Shiva Lingam same Feathered Serpent Priest Kings (Native American feathered Crown, being the Phoenix). Canaan is Phoenician for Serpent Kings, and the Aztecs spoke how the Serpent King was supposed to rule by outsmarting his subjects. The old Phoenician Serpent Priests were even depicted as serpents in little clay statuettes offered at the Temple of Obelisks in Byblos, from which the Bible takes it's name. There's even a star in Orion called Rigel, also known as Aurora, the Dawnbringer, Phoenicians even transmutes to the Scions/Sons of the Phoenix, or Sons of light, exactly how the authors of the Dead Sea Scrolls identify themselves, exactly what the name Freemason means, (House of light) a reference to Isis worship. Tyre/Jerusalem was also a center of Masonry, just like Thebes, then there are the twin cities of Heliopolis, one in Lebanon (israel) and one in Egypt, it was the Heliopolis that the Phoenix returned from India, anointing itself in frankincense and myrrh before stepping onto the Holy Grail, Philosopher's Stone to self immolate and be reborn by the baptism of fire. It represents a metonic cycle of 3 216 year periods, when Venus rose un the Spring with Orion, representing Lucifer, the Light Bringer, where they would add 3 days to the calendar to coincide their holy days with the zodiac. The Antithykera mechanism was also based on the Metonic cycle, and was the basis for Revelations, marking the transition of the age of Pisces into the age of Aquarius from 2001 to 2021. The mechanism was even found off Potamos island, aka Patmos, the island where St John (Code for Osiris) wrote Revelations. The New testament reads just like you would the Antithykera mechanism, anthropomorphizing Jesus as the Sun and Moon, Orion, and Serpentis, the 13th sunsign of the Babylonian zodiac associated with Hermes, Thoth, Enoch, etc. The feathered Serpent, the Phoenix, the American Eagle are all the same thing, a symbol of resurrection, based on the cycle of the Sun and Moon. I've done a whole video on it on my channel if you're interested

You have educated yourself to the point where this subject has something to say to you. So... well done you and well done to all the researchers who have expended so much of their careers on determining so much about this fascinating object. A true wonder of human ingenuity.

What Christianity does to a mf continent

@Lucious De Luca okay; just got chills. Going to google “yugas” now. Absolutely fascinating.

Martin Kenny. Flat Earth modeller mentions yugas 👍 he did a vid with odd TV. It's on bitchute. Also Eric dubay on bitchute. Flat Earth president. Many vids and evidence

@Lucious De Luca Referring to the Earth's wobbling cycle?

It's interesting that in the current age many would say that our enlightenment has declined, yet our knowledge and technology has excelled.

🤔 I'm wondering that as well.

I don't believe they have other examples that are comparable, know what I mean? The only reason we can kinda guess when a sword was made is because we have seen other swords very similar that we for sure do know the age/style of.

a good question ... i googled it & got a lot of information but NOTHING on what kind of metal was used... you'd think that the metal used would be analyzed early on ....

Would you measure this by degrading radioactivity?

Isotope analysis should show the mine area, but not the manufacturing site. Copper and tin from diverse areas were premium goods.

More like geeks lol

How about a Joe Biden speech?

The same happened with Charles Darwin. But now, hopefully, we all can ignore those science deniers and embrace the facts of our reality. The great thing about this is if we're wrong, we can find another, more reliable solutions and not sticking to the same answers like some groups out there.

@UCilEKHUR-WtlI3JD5yTcD3g lol. Creating a physical object requires fundamental understanding of the nature of the materials used. Youre comparing this to observation of a phenomenon of change in a species' traits, qualities, and features over several generations You're judging Darwins ability as a fish to climb a tree. The only clown here is you.

Especially indians

Academia likes to portray them as barbaric savages.

Dwij Gurram Not really... There are a lot of highly advanced ancient cultures that fall into that category

@@AmateurishAstronaut Indus valley civilization is the oldest , India has the highest density of cave paintings. And also were dabbling in plastic surgeries as far back as 4000 b.c (Charaka), indians invented a lot of other stuff too. There's too much to cover in this short comment.

Dwij Gurram Indus Valley civilization is not the oldest. Yeah, lots of ancient cultures did an incredible amount of things. You could find just as impressive findings in ancient Africa, Europe or the Americas. India having the most cave paintings definitely comes down to the size of the country, it’s an entire subcontinent after all. Don’t get me wrong I’m not downplaying India... But it doesn’t stand out above others.

Just leave away the apostrophes of those "it's"s, and your comment is perfect. So far, it isn't clear if you really mean the first one.

That's the question to ask

i mean, given that this planet has been clapped several times and the gods have to come back and re-teach or at least we have to rememeber what the gods taught us, weirdest thing is.......for some reason other beings from other star systems keep coming to this planet

It hasn't been a popular notion for a very long time. I am certain it has been the case. Too much has been covered up and hidden, or melted back into circulation. Like too many current narratives that are taken as pure fact. This was a wonderful talk!

No evidence of it.

@@maymay5600 Have you sen those images form Mars. Suspicious suspicious!

No! The only mechanisms described here are gear sets and pin-and-slot pairs; both digital device categories. There is no analog mechanism mentioned within the Antikythera Mechanism to confer analog motion. As an inventor of two CVT's and an IVT (all analog mechanisms), I can assure you that gears & indexers cannot produce an analog ratio without an analog (continuously variable) component.

Semantics. Certainly an analog predictor/mimic. My question is the evolution of the knowledge. How many years/centuries of observation were required to develop the counts that resulted in gear teething specifications or was there a mathematically predicted derivation?. If the latter then we a looking at pre-Kepler accomplishments of Kepler by 2000 years.

Google: Charles Babbage and the difference engine.

Stop...... I read the same thing word for word somewhere else in an article....lol...

I agree with Zenon Eleateis

Algebraic equations and problem solving were certainly necessary for many greek buildings, particularly with scale.

You may well ask David Murray as he has connections in that field of scrap and plundering.

Isn't it better to find stuff that tells us about our past than to not find it?

And war

Its organizations such as the Smithsonian, & the Vatican that are destroying the real history

@@jefffarris3359 Whats found that is real, they destroy or hide, & what aint found, they falsify