The Architecture of Oak Hill East (2023 PGA Championship Host)

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The 2023 PGA Championship will be held at Oak Hill Country Club's East Course, a 1924 Donald Ross design. In this video, we discuss the course's history and design with club historian Fred Beltz and consulting golf architect Andrew Green. In 2020, Green was hired by the club to prepare it for this year's PGA Championship and restore as much of Ross's original design as possible.
A big thank you to Andrew Green, Fred Beltz, and Oak Hill Country Club for not only their time but also the historical photos and assets. Specific credit for access to Donald Ross's sketches, construction photos, and before-and-after imagery goes to Andrew Green. Historical imagery of the original club, clubhouse, and early photographs of the current property came from Oak Hill.
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@garrettpoole221
@garrettpoole221 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea Oak Hill was a Ross, or that it was recently restored. 100 times more excited for this tournament now
@Wizardstix23
@Wizardstix23 Жыл бұрын
Ross bunkers 100%
@lax3man3
@lax3man3 Жыл бұрын
Love this course. I worked at the neighboring club, which is also a Ross design (Irondequoit CC) for years and always could see #14 and #16 from the 13 and 14 fairways at ICC. Seeing the redesign in 2019-2020 was a treat. Each week I watched Oak Hill get restored back to its original drawings from scratch. At first, you could not believe you were watching them dig up this world-renowned course but after the restoration was finished it made total sense.
@leelejnieks1234
@leelejnieks1234 Жыл бұрын
By far the most fun I have ever had carding a 108.
@soliddoublebogeys
@soliddoublebogeys Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, great work to the Fried Egg team for putting this together, even more hyped up for the PGA championship!
@jamesrichardson3500
@jamesrichardson3500 Жыл бұрын
Part Oakmont, part Bethpage Black part Shinnecock. Love the short grass around the greens and run off areas. The US open is a real treat when players are challenged with something other than just length and rough. Can't wait.
@markromero4046
@markromero4046 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Rochester. Oak Hill has always been classy, and it continues with this wonderful redesign.
@tylerevans369
@tylerevans369 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely phenomenal redesign. This has sparked a re-found aspiration to design golf courses. The bunkering, new green layouts, even switching the 5 & 6 holes to better suit the landscape were all extremely calculated and truly great decisions.
@thomaselliott573
@thomaselliott573 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it was extremely extremely
@stevefox8524
@stevefox8524 Жыл бұрын
Was fortunate enough to walk this course at today's practice round. Amazing hole designs, and the greens are definitely a challenge. Hole 13 was fun to watch greenside along with 14 to see the players have a go at driving the green!
@qcrew2938
@qcrew2938 Жыл бұрын
This course is absolutely stunning
@colinkraft7837
@colinkraft7837 Жыл бұрын
Wow, great work. I knew Oak Hill was a great golf course but now I'm obsessed.. Those mounds, bunkers, and greens are just incredible. The things I would do..
@GoFast865
@GoFast865 Жыл бұрын
I’m a member at Holston Hills in Knoxville, TN, which is another Ross masterpiece. Due to budget constraints, it’s largely unchanged from its original Ross design. He truly was a genius and one of a kind.
@Peccs91
@Peccs91 Жыл бұрын
That is a blessing in disguise. The idiots at my club had essentially a blank check to redo 3 of our greens 6 years ago. What they did is create 3 greens that each have maybe 3 pin placements, max. When it comes to a golf course, access to $$ often leads to dumb decisions.
@me05501
@me05501 Жыл бұрын
Great, classic course with some of the most brutal rough around.
@Jschultepga
@Jschultepga Жыл бұрын
Holstein Hills is amazing! I hope they never change that masterpiece.
@adamszczupakowski6615
@adamszczupakowski6615 Жыл бұрын
As someone born and raised in Rochester it is amazing learning all these details about the gem that is Oak Hill. I can't wait for the PGA Championship and to watch the World's best tackle this course.
@Nick_J_
@Nick_J_ Жыл бұрын
The course looks great. The changes to 17 with the mounds and 18’s green shape are subtle but very important
@CaneFan25
@CaneFan25 Жыл бұрын
Donald Ross is my all time favorite golf course designer so I’m glad they restored it close to what he had intended it to play….should be a great pga championship!
@andrewjames8980
@andrewjames8980 Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing re-design (RIP trees), but the story told through the video is just as good. Tremendous work.
@yogiebere
@yogiebere Жыл бұрын
I haven't ever seen this course played on TV or really heard of it before. I'm really impressed by not only the original design but also the visionary leadership from Green in his redesign, it looks simply stunning, and while like a lot of other courses in its region/era, totally unique at the same time.
@scottyholdridge
@scottyholdridge Жыл бұрын
Obsessed with Fred. When the music drops when he’s talking?!?!? Unbelievable. Perfect. Zero Fuck’n notes.
@Peccs91
@Peccs91 Жыл бұрын
My old man's good friend casually mentioned he can get us on here, crossing my fingers that it becomes a reality. Courses like Oak Hill are why the majors are so awesome. The best tournaments played on some of the more historical and beautiful courses. As golf fans, I wish we were blessed with Oak Hill, Oakmont and many others on a more regular basis.
@gnickkie1058
@gnickkie1058 Жыл бұрын
I'll be there Sunday!!! So pumped
@bobbydrex5268
@bobbydrex5268 Жыл бұрын
As a golfer from Rochester who will never be able to play this course, this video was incredible
@ericduffett
@ericduffett Жыл бұрын
10:55 mark where the voiceover says "You gotta hit a really good tee shot" as the video shows a snap hook 🤣
@unvrknow22
@unvrknow22 Жыл бұрын
Incredible job putting this video together! Loved the insight and cinematography. Really adds to the fan experience to learn some of the history and design details of the course going into the event.
@IcePlays
@IcePlays Жыл бұрын
This is incredible! I'm heading up there to see a practice round for the pga championship and I cannot wait
@agoodwalkspoiledgolf
@agoodwalkspoiledgolf Жыл бұрын
"Ok now lets do a silly one" - Garrett at the 3:30 mark (probably)
@matthewrich7197
@matthewrich7197 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks for putting it together. I'm pumped to watch the PGA Championship!
@chrisbaldry4233
@chrisbaldry4233 Жыл бұрын
Nice work by the architects. Always hard to be respectful of the past but carry through on a clear design vision.
@johnnymossville
@johnnymossville Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful test that will be. Can't wait to see how they do on it.
@SeamusOReilly230
@SeamusOReilly230 Жыл бұрын
This is top tier content, great work.
@keylo4261
@keylo4261 Жыл бұрын
Never heard of this course until now but those greens and bunkers are absolutely amazingly designed/placed/created. Can’t wait for PGA Championship. They’re going to have to be creative that’s for sure.
@zachjeffers3524
@zachjeffers3524 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work gents. Thoroughly enjoyed the trip.
@MCA_Lives
@MCA_Lives Жыл бұрын
Got to see oak hill in 2019 for the senior championship, excited to see the redesign when I go to the final round this year!
@martinsmith8747
@martinsmith8747 Жыл бұрын
I was the front gate security Guard in 1980, as an 18 year old. I was required to accept and or reject people at the front gate, and was able to say good morning to all the players for all 4 days of the tournament. I even "told" Jack on the final morning that he was going to crush the competition today. One of my favorite moments was the smile on his face like he just knew it. Yes to this day I still take credit for his win at Oak Hill in 1980
@uwhaku
@uwhaku Жыл бұрын
I truly believe we are living in one of the greatest times of golf course architecture and re-design. Between Coore/Crenshaw redesigning Pinehurst, this amazing update to Oak Hill, and the amazing courses popping up (Bandon/Sand Valley/Sweetens, etc) this time period will be seen as a golden era.
@poocrayon4588
@poocrayon4588 Жыл бұрын
Lol no. Manicured courses with zer oreal hazards
@LegolasFan69
@LegolasFan69 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think so. Too much maintenance involved with the current architecture trends to make these courses last when they might not be as popular and maybe struggle with revenue. The current trends are massive land, long holes with a lot of tee boxes, no rough, short grass everywhere, super fast and therefore flat greens, even trees are thought of as a problem bc you can’t grow grass under them… I would like to see an architect buck these fads but golf architecture is a very insular industry
@golfinguru11
@golfinguru11 Жыл бұрын
@@LegolasFan69 I agree with all but the flat greens comment (Sand Hills is the template for modern courses and the greens are not flat at all). It is quite funny because the GOAT architect Allister Mckenzie touted the necessity of outlining holes with trees/wasn't afraid to make his courses "claustrophobic" - just look at Augusta, cypress point, and Pine Valley (the big three) - all would be criticized if built today.
@Pulse2AM
@Pulse2AM Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting the video! I worked in the Architecture field for decades, this is a nice look at what goes into the work.
@jnagel605
@jnagel605 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Fried egg crew. Thanks for putting this together
@thomassus4444
@thomassus4444 Жыл бұрын
My cousin got a round here through an auction in 1998 or 1999. I flew in from Chicago and played (badly). Tough course. My cousin had grown up on the edge of a Ross design, Brookside CC in Canton, OH, and when we got to 11 at Oak Hill it was almost identical to #12 at Brookside! Can’t wait to see the PGA with the redesign they’ve done.
@sloppysnoopy
@sloppysnoopy Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Course looks amazing.
@keithrobel
@keithrobel Жыл бұрын
Great work!
@richardcutt727
@richardcutt727 Жыл бұрын
Very well sculpted changes.
@joshramirez7
@joshramirez7 Жыл бұрын
You mean to tell me there is a channel dedicated to golf course architecture? Where have I been?! Great stuff 👏 👍
@tomidzkowski
@tomidzkowski Жыл бұрын
Great production. Got me amped up for next week!
@nicholasforgione5596
@nicholasforgione5596 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw Andy wearing golf shoes I turned off the video... Great video!!! This course is going to be so fun to watch next week. Looking forward to more major venue breakdown videos.
@peterallen7118
@peterallen7118 Жыл бұрын
Great video, really looking forward to the PGA; and we didn't even have to sit through 10 minutes of BS about the Bears and Browns before we got to the good stuff!!
@chrisbevan1896
@chrisbevan1896 Жыл бұрын
This is so good. Crushing content.
@joeybagadonuts5774
@joeybagadonuts5774 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video!!!
@SocialAssasin
@SocialAssasin Жыл бұрын
Feel the exact same way Andrew does when it comes to bunkers. Especially when it comes to majors. Bunker shots should be difficult to get a shot close to the pin. Also fairway bunkers should not be easy to make par from. They're called bunkers for a reason. Every week on tour you see guys bailing out or even wanting to hit there shots on par 5s into a bunker. This looks like it won't be easy for the players. Love it
@gongshow20
@gongshow20 Жыл бұрын
I really wish this was a public venue or at least allowed someone from out of state to play that isn't a member anywhere! Can't wait to see on the TV coverage
@kinsleykhoo48
@kinsleykhoo48 Жыл бұрын
Ive always wondered which golf course in the US would be my favourite amongst so many of the worlds finest they have. would it be Augusta? Sawgrasss? Pebble? Spy glass? Scottsdale? Bethpage? and the list goes on and on - after watching and reading about Oak Hills history and development and seeing what has transpired over the last few years with an excellent redevelopment and restoration by Andrew Green, seeing Oak Hill now in all its glory, this is a beautiful beautiful golf course and would say this is my favourite course - Im really looking forward to this weekends PGA Championship and see what the pros can do on such a beautiful and unique course.
@rc4728
@rc4728 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to watch!
@aemeromedia
@aemeromedia Жыл бұрын
engaging information! 💪
@seanstrizzi4266
@seanstrizzi4266 Жыл бұрын
This is so so good
@rbisportscards3326
@rbisportscards3326 Жыл бұрын
Nothing crazy off the tee, but those green complexes and bunker designs are beautiful.
@Chackaa
@Chackaa Жыл бұрын
Whoever plays golf in Long Island, Should come by and play Colonial Springs 😏⛳️ 27 hole 3 courses & the beauty of the courses and how they play are amazing!!
@chippycut1406
@chippycut1406 Жыл бұрын
Parker McLachlin can help with those bunker shots. But seriously, nice video
@mikeoloco4298
@mikeoloco4298 Жыл бұрын
can't wait
@jeffboward7537
@jeffboward7537 Жыл бұрын
Great video, but genuinely curious how no one at the course has noticed that Annika Sorenstam’s name is spelled wrong on her plaque
@khunopie9159
@khunopie9159 Жыл бұрын
If I hit a ball in a bunker here... and it plugs... what should I have for breakfast?
@sgassocsg
@sgassocsg Жыл бұрын
Is there a sale at the pro shop?
@williamk8000
@williamk8000 Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the most famous trees in golf
@erikanderson8093
@erikanderson8093 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video on how molested or unmolested the West course at Oak Hill is. The East gets the fanfare of course but the West was a very good Ross design as well.
@golfrep2584
@golfrep2584 Жыл бұрын
As a member of Oak Hill, I can tell you that the West Course's layout is pretty much Ross' original design. The greens have become oval shaped, much like the East course greens had become over the years. The West is a tremendous course, it's just too short to host a major Championship
@martinsmith8747
@martinsmith8747 Жыл бұрын
@@golfrep2584 And the greens on West are brutally fast. It's a challenge to play West just because of the putting.
@stevew2396
@stevew2396 Жыл бұрын
What Andrew Green does will be a lost skill when a course like Panther National in 75 years will be looking to get that course back to the original Nicklaus/Thomas design which over the years had been lost. Ponds had deviated from the original shape, cart paths had been replaced and widened along the way. And the course conditions had never recovered from Hurricane Jaxon in 2071 which left most of the course underwater for 18 months. But Google maps will make it so easy to see exactly what the course looked like on opening day, the research will consist of typing in the name of the course and then taking a few screenshots. The club historian will be an AI talking tree named Wesley.
@jwilder2251
@jwilder2251 Жыл бұрын
Well done. Course looks classic. Andrew Green did a really nice job explaining the process without making it seem like architectural masturbation
@dadaevan
@dadaevan Жыл бұрын
Andy - that is one violent swing. Be careful.
@glennsmith8373
@glennsmith8373 Жыл бұрын
Need a PGA at Inverness Club asap.
@demarcovasquez4016
@demarcovasquez4016 Жыл бұрын
I Cnt wait to go
@lonkylaine
@lonkylaine Жыл бұрын
Oak Hill historian... so this guy is specialised only in Oak Hill questions and stuff for a living. Pretty impressive.
@golfrep2584
@golfrep2584 Жыл бұрын
No...Fred made his living in the financial world. He's volunteers his time as the club historian, and goes a great job doing so.
@garrettmorrison1455
@garrettmorrison1455 Жыл бұрын
@@golfrep2584 Mr. Beltz is a gem!
@tomkirby6393
@tomkirby6393 Жыл бұрын
Pretty surprising at 9:36 that the spelled Sorenstam incorrectly on the tree plaque.
@trulymeparker
@trulymeparker Жыл бұрын
Every single green is elevated. It's a shame they didn't add in a few greens that sit in a punch bowl, like an amphitheatre setting
@TanBronson02
@TanBronson02 Жыл бұрын
13
@cledesma135
@cledesma135 Жыл бұрын
Im sure Lee and Jack were ok with them cutting those trees down.
@rileyrapp303
@rileyrapp303 Жыл бұрын
Our wives do not understand how this makes us feel.
@allend2749
@allend2749 Жыл бұрын
I have listened to all the bs i can about this golf course and how friggin difficult it is. and i am sure it would be for me. I am a 24 handicap, 85 years old and hit my tee ball 175 yards. But, the pros can cover 550 yards with a driver and a 5 iron and if not they can certainly cover 500 yards with those same 2 clubs. As for your tough sand traps. Every shot out of the green side traps will get within 5 feet of the hole. Every shot out of the fairway traps will find the green or pretty darn close. These pros of today with their books of all the information in the world on each friggin hole along with their caddies that study this course and know everything, well, you have 2 minds at work and not the one mind that Hogan, Snead, Palmer & Nicklaus used. And believe you me there are times in a round of golf where two educated golf minds are better than one and I don't care who the golfer might be. I guess what I am saying is that these professional golfers during the upcoming PGA, in May, 2023 will eat this course alive and make it another boring boring boring tournament called target golf.
@thomasburke1361
@thomasburke1361 Жыл бұрын
Fair enough. We shall see.
@ShOrt_RoUnD
@ShOrt_RoUnD Жыл бұрын
🍳🍳🍳
@jmucbear
@jmucbear Жыл бұрын
Andy what sort of lack-of-ankle-support Toms abominations are you wearing? We're getting old. Let's be smart.
@jayhamilton2915
@jayhamilton2915 Жыл бұрын
Always weird when one guy thinks he owns the club, and there's an outsider w no ownership making the calls. When nerve meets God complex.
@samuraichicken9248
@samuraichicken9248 Жыл бұрын
Amazing? I hope to have the privilege to play Oak Hill some day.
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