The Art Introvert’s Guide to Networking with Kristian Nee - Draftsmen S2E34
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Күн бұрынProko employee and artist Kristian Nee joins the podcast this week. He talks with Marshall about his secret to making friends with influential people, how his personal connections have opened up new opportunities for him and his friends, what road tripping has taught Kristian about humanity and why he asks crazy questions. On top of all the insight there’s also a few special guests that make it into the episode as well.
You can follow Kristian and keep up with his work here:
Website - www.KristianNee.com
Instagram - / kristiansknees
KZfaq - / @kristianneetv
Thanks to Betterhelp for sponsoring today’s Draftsmen episode! Save 10% on your first month with Betterhelp - betterhelp.com/draftsmen
Timecodes:
00:00 - Intro
00:57 - Marshall & Kristians Past
02:38 - Kristian...AKA "The Connector"
05:19 - 300 Mile Bike Ride
08:17 - Road Trip
12:37 - Kristians Internship in England
14:19 - Dinner with multi millionaires
22:17 - Kristian's Start at Proko
25:49 - Role Models
50:17 - Kristian's Crazy Questions
01:03:44 - Marshall & Kristian summon Charlie
01:09:21 - Bruce Mayo
01:12:08 - April Soloman
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Shep Gordon’s Book - amzn.to/33STOBT
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Erik Gist - proko.com/draftsmen-media/eri...
Jeff Watts - proko.com/draftsmen-media/jef...
Ben Young - proko.com/draftsmen-media/ben...
Scott Flanders - proko.com/356
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April's Solomon Patreon - / aprilsolomonart
Loic Maltais - proko.com/draftsmen-media/loi...
Lisha Maltais - proko.com/draftsmen-media/lis...
Kristian’s Website - www.KristianNee.com
Kristian's Instagram - / kristiansknees
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ABOUT DRAFTSMEN
Stan Prokopenko and Marshall Vandruff are art instructors. If you love the arts, particularly the craft of drawing and painting and image-making… and you want to level up your skills or even make a living with your skills, we are here to answer your questions. We’re here to offer you advice, refer you to our resources, share your love of the craft and maybe inspire you! Learn to Draw - www.proko.com Marshall Vandruff - www.marshallart.com. Subscribe to the podcast at bit.ly/DraftsmenPod
CREDITS:
Guest - Kristian Nee (www.kristiannee.com/)
Hosts - Stan Prokopenko (www.stanprokopenko.com), Marshall Vandruff (www.marshallart.com/)
Bonus Guests - Charlie Nicholson ( / shloogorgh , Bruce Mayo, April Solomon (www.aprilsolomonart.com/), Loic Maltais ( / loicmaltais , Lisha Maltais ( / centidraws , Scott Flanders ( / shapecarver )
Production Assistance - Alex Otis ( / alexotisillustration , Charlie Nicholson
Editing - Tyler Spaid, Alex Otis, Charlie Nicholson
Intro Animation - Cody Shank (codyshank.com/)
Intro Jingle - Tommy Rush ( / tommyrush )
Music Used with Permission Intro - The Freak Fandango Orchestra
@Draftsmen 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy Kristian Question Time! You must choose one: You can read people’s minds, but only when they’re thinking bad thoughts about you OR every meal has to be topped with whipped cream.
@twomoledmiddlefinger353 3 жыл бұрын
I'll choose the latter lol
@zacharyhorvath3615 3 жыл бұрын
Reading people’s negative thoughts towards me-I think I’d end up more confident and with a generally more positive opinion of myself because I doubt anyone can top my own self deprecation. Also it would level out my hubris
@latteARCH 3 жыл бұрын
One will test my relationship with humanity, the other gives me more calories *hmm* Serious: people think bad thoughts about others all the time, even the people they care about. There's an interesting manga/anime I read called Kino's Journey, where one chapter the main character visits a town whose residents were 'cursed' to hear the thoughts of others (involuntary telepathy). At first it was nice, but then you hear the minor complaints and nitpicks between each other. Some problems that seem small to one person are huge to another. People tend to pay attention to the negative more than the positive (me included). You hear the thoughts of someone before they perish in a car accident or on their deathbed. People with perverted/unwarranted sexual thoughts. Exams were useless due to cheating. As a result everyone in the town eventually moved to seclusion within their own homes to escape that pain or conflict. So I think there is some beauty in the ambiguity of thoughts and emotions between us. Though there is also a lot of beauty in whipped cream. Decisions, decisions...
@carlosroo5460 3 жыл бұрын
I choose the third one, the Billion Dollars to spend on treatment for my hand and invest on research to find a solution for these kinds of health problem... And kick Maduro out of Venezuela.
@leontermolen2356 3 жыл бұрын
Whipped cream of course, no doubt!
@matheus_mth_1003 3 жыл бұрын
Working for free is not that simple for someone who needs to work a day to eat breakfast in the next one, it's not a critique about Kristian, it's a perspective on the world that i grow up. Many people wished that they had time to expend learning, studying or whatever, but the reality of being poor is too harsh.
@MuneemIslam 3 жыл бұрын
We all can agree that Marshall's beard is amazing
@professionalgumby 3 жыл бұрын
this episode is such a 180 from the last one lol, going from an artist who struggled to learn despite not having electricity most nights to a privileged 25 year old who secured a great position in the art industry (without really doing art) by taking the rich and successful to dinners because of the connections his had "ever since he could remember"
@fussilly 3 жыл бұрын
As a person who's been in the artworld for quite some time, I find the statement Christian says about hard work and how it separates succesful people from unsuccesful ones quite wrong. From my observations it's not always about hard work. You often have to rely on luck, your will to become a succesful, recognizable artist and you have to know right people. Also people that are born in families connected somehow to art or entertainment or even richer or in country in better economy situation have it a lot easier to gain recognition or allow themselves for education that is unaccessible for "normal" people. Hard work is one thing, but it is not always corelated with success. That's a capitalist myth.
@reik947 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite podcast at the moment. But something about this episode just doesn’t sit right with me.
@KristianNeeTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having me :)
@oxibound5945 3 жыл бұрын
Kristian, what about a journey to Myanmar? It just west Thailand. Now the military coup just happened and may be you can come around and have some excitement and some apocalyptic vibe. Ha ha just kidding.
@0ia 2 жыл бұрын
My maan of the skeetchy vaan!
@KristianNeeTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@0ia that’s me!
@fransende 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I'm so introvert I would rather spend 30min looking for a product on the market, then asking someone of the staff where it is
@twomoledmiddlefinger353 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather not tho since it's faster to look for something you want if u just ask
@zacharyhorvath3615 3 жыл бұрын
Lol-Ohhh, how I can relate. I spent an hour aimlessly walking the isles of Michaels to see if they had any acrylic paint markers that weren’t behind glass (I shockingly found one), before spending 20 minutes trying to find a clerk to help me with what I needed😣
@mf-- 3 жыл бұрын
Asking questions is a skill that can be learned. It takes effort but can be done.
@BigDomski 3 жыл бұрын
I was at a supermarket today and that's prettt much what I did. Spend about 10 minutes without even finding it in the end 😂😂😂
@yeoldegrayCat 3 жыл бұрын
I've done this, walked past all the aisles, couldn't find what I was looking for and had to ask at the end but was very tempted to just leave without it.
@Alex-jx8ez 2 жыл бұрын
wish I was in a position to network and work for people for free, what a ridiculously privileged position to be in, must be nice
@TheOneRioji 3 жыл бұрын
This title alone speaks volumes for me.
@knottyed5259 3 жыл бұрын
Pun intended
@klawzee 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit sad about this vid for someone who's really introverted and looking to network. It's not really a guide but a bunch of stories I wish I could have done or gotten to do. Its entertaining nonetheless.
@damirakhairi3391 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. This guy is more of a social networker than an introvert. Doesnt help for me. Basically an extrovert lol
@bloodnessx 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh... the things he do and live is too taxing for an introvert.. I hear no breathing room of him talking about introvertness either... its straight to the realm of extrovert
@ellahopkinson 2 жыл бұрын
I used to not be able to take advice from people who I perceived to have come from a more privileged background than me, but I think that feeling just comes from jealousy. Whilst, yes people's experiences shape their opinions, so I might argue that hard work doesn't make as much of a difference as money and nepotism, that's only based on what I've seen and others opinions are based on what they have seen. Now I can look past differences in opinions like that and see the value in other people's views even if they've lived a very different life to me, I can still follow the general advice even if not some specific things like road trips etc. The core ideas and life philosophy seem really positive, I think of karma quite often and try yo treat others as I would like to be treated. Thanks for the video, it was great, shame some people have left some bitter sounding comments
@diananicoletti101 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, you do a great job with this podcast and videos, and the information in this one was insightful, too. However, you r title is misleading. Maybe Kris is a people-oriented introvert, but for the vast number of introverts who are thing/data-oriented rather than people-oriented, this misses the mark. How about renaming it: A Guide to Networking with Kristin Nee...
@diananicoletti101 3 жыл бұрын
(sorry for my typos)
@KiX-K4T13 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to know more of the crew names of Proko! And they're totally interesting people too! 😂 "renting out a theater to watch Troll 2" lmao. Great times. Also, Kristian is just life. The embodiment of life.
@ishheredia9626 3 жыл бұрын
This guy's about as much of an introvert as I am rich. This episode and this kid's "insights" can get bent
@sonseraedesigns7167 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this podcast!!! I have the same philosophy. I grew up and went to a private university in Malibu And lived and studied in Europe. I worked hard and became an artist at Walt Disney Studios and a bunch of other studios in the entertainment industry. Then I had to leave an abusive marriage and found myself hiding for a year and a half . I became homeless and hungry but every day was such a learning experience. I lost 50 pounds from hunger and I was able to see things from a completely different side. I spent the next year and a half talking with homeless people and sleeping in my car and a tent and hearing their stories and somehow I was always taken care of. I never took drugs or alcohol and stayed sober. God always took care of me. I found my purpose and now I have a nonprofit to help people heal from trauma and PTSD through the arts. I also teach kids art. This is way more fulfilling than working at a studio as an artist. I’m actually seeing people’s lives change for the better. I am an Optimistic person who has a lot of faith And even when I lost everything, I saw everything as a new opportunity of learning where as someone else would see it as a terrible horrible thing. Not to say that I didn’t have times of horrible discouragement but I truly felt like I was supposed to be there for a reason. To learn and to grow and to help others do the same. By the way, I’m in OC And would love to take Marshall’s classes!!
@xcoe 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Marshal has the time to do this podcast, considering his commitment to being a mall Santa Claus
@deebonash4487 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh 🤣
@bonlynx 3 жыл бұрын
My life has been nothing but me helping people and no one ever reciprocating. Also must be nice to be able to just work for free. 🙄 Most people don't have that privelege.
@bethsleepien9817 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I would help people (for free! and with a positive attitude) and they would get angry when I didn't do even more. Like, yelling at me calling me a bad friend/family because I "wouldn't help them and am selfish" (after helping them a lot, for hours and hours and hours). And it didn't just happen once or twice, it was consistent. I'm starting to think this whole "just help people and you'll be happy and your life will improve!" is spread by people who are lucky, giving thoughtless advice, or want more people they can use. :/ I think people get used to you giving for free and it makes them view you as valueless or that they're doing you a favor or something since you must not have anything else to do if you're helping them for free you poor thing 🙄
@xoxdid 3 жыл бұрын
@@bethsleepien9817 I think one must be selective about who they help. Obviously if the relationship is one sided and just sucking the life out of you, I don't think you should be continuing to invest in it. I don't think it's about being selfless, it must be more about growing as people together.
@evindrews 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree a bit. I think Kristian has found a groove himself and while I can't make any actual introspections, I don't know anything about him, but he seems very lucky. It's also frustrating he seems to promote to work for free, but many others don't have that privilege. (and for employers I don't think it's cool to let people work for free, I think it sets a dangerous precedent and just look at unpaid internships - they have lots of rules or are illegal in some places for a reason)
@bloodnessx 2 жыл бұрын
When I heard he was working for proko for free, shows he already had a very privilege and healthy life. For alot of others, it's an massive struggle that you would never think about doing something for "free"
@kermitthetoad9093 3 жыл бұрын
Stan looks a bit different today...
@ravenburneskushner1825 3 жыл бұрын
That was fun! I still don't know how to network, but I enjoyed this exchange. :)
@isamepython 3 жыл бұрын
I had so much joy from this episode, thank you.
@tanyapineda7212 3 жыл бұрын
"All of this independence coming together in unity". Cool. This was so interesting, uplifting, optimistic & fun. So much of my personal philosophy validated. Thank you! Just discovering Proko. Wow.
@gianlucadesisto6058 3 жыл бұрын
Who else is hearing Chef Gordon, and thinking he lives a alternative lifestyle?
@joschuaknuppe5849 3 жыл бұрын
Marshall looks more and more like Santa
@mark_tolver 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that beard growth is definitely giving him the Father Christmas vibe. Come to think of it, Stan could definitely pass as one of his elves. 😁
@BigDomski 3 жыл бұрын
Kristian is the kinda guy that I aspire to be more like, but struggle tremendously with it. I'm only 24 but for the past 3 years or so, I forgot what it's like to have dreams... It pains my heart to say it, but I regret too much about my life and see almost everything up to now as completely pointless. I've been feeling a lack of will to do anything with myself, which hurts me even more after being a very focused kid with a strong work ethic before that. Kristian is probably not reading these, but I wanted to thank him for being a genuinely good, open-minded human being who's not afraid to stay curious and follow his dreams.
@Draftsmen 3 жыл бұрын
24 is so young! Keep dreaming and start working towards your goals day by day.
@KristianNeeTV 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Domo, thanks for listening and thanks for the kind words. Listen man, life is hard and sometimes things seem like they won't get better. In my experience they always do. We're both extremely young, and it is never too late to do the things you really want to do. Feel free to email me through my site if you're interested in chatting sometime. Would love to pick your brain a bit.
@BigDomski 3 жыл бұрын
@@Draftsmen Thank you for the encouragement guys, you really do a lot for me with these podcasts 🙏
@BigDomski 3 жыл бұрын
@@KristianNeeTV @Kristian Nee OH hey man! Thank you for the response, I really appreciate the inspiration and encouragement to just keep at it. I'll be sure to write you an email!
@0ia 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigDomski hope you are doing well, get on track!
@62LeftyBlues 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Marshall! Very much enjoying your guests. Great stuff, keep it up please. Thanks
@Rook818 3 жыл бұрын
I kept thinking Kristian reminded me of the guy from the movie "Into the Wild". Then I see "Into the Wild" is on his book list.
@yohenson 3 жыл бұрын
isnt that movie where the guy ended dying alone in a bus, writing his final words that joy should be shared and not hoarded?
@AnneliLMendozaArt 11 ай бұрын
I can’t find that list anymore 😢
@TheCoookieCrumb 3 жыл бұрын
The snaps at the end. 😆 Creatives goofing around. Loved it! I also really like the idea of asking weird trivial questions. I dont like/suck at small talk but i worry about putting people off by getting to deep. I end up never knowing what to say to people but i like this way of getting a convo started. It feels like a non threatening way of avoiding talking about the weather.🖒
@alfiealpha 3 жыл бұрын
what a genuine human being Kristian is
@dmcupitty 3 жыл бұрын
Man Marshall is the man!
@MarkWhippy 3 жыл бұрын
44:21 That painting from Jeff Watts is just stunning :O
@heyryanisonx3141 3 жыл бұрын
We finally meet the final boss of networking :0
@crgaming8102 3 жыл бұрын
Two things: 1.Marshall can you talk about every book you have and tell us the things you liked and the things you didn't like about it. Also this should not be only artbooks. 2.Can you make a video with Alan Lee ?
@AndrewMaksymBrainNectar 3 жыл бұрын
^
@TK-bg8jg 3 жыл бұрын
hope youre all paying attention, you need a wealthy family, have people that know your family sponsor you at their school, and be able to have dinners with multimillionaires
@professionalgumby 3 жыл бұрын
what pisses me off the most is when he says that if you're working a certain career and if youre not happy with it if they arent paying you for it, you should just leave and pursue something else. idk if this dude understands that most people just cant do that and that theyre only option is to move up in that career or they dont have anything else. i fucking hate it when rich people tell the working class to "just follow your dreams and youll be rich" when the reality is most of the population dont have the privilege to step out of their current job to chase something that isnt guaranteed
@definitelynotnick2454 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, totally out of touch lol
@TheCoookieCrumb 3 жыл бұрын
What i heard is... step out of your comfort zone, a curious and positive attitude can open doors that sinisism never will, be honest with yourself and what you really want out life, dont focus on just materialistic things, open yourself to life without jugment and with enthusiasm, work hard at the things that speak to you and success will follow.
@TK-bg8jg 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCoookieCrumb yeah you didnt pay attention to the part where he said he helped him get his class running so he could get a free class from marshall. take what what said/ this part and look up cynicism. but i am happy you found a positive from part of what hes saying, but regular people dont have the opportunities he has not even a little
@professionalgumby 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCoookieCrumb sad reality is that the majority of people who can actually use that mindset are people with the privilege to do so, most people HAVE to focus on the "materialistic" to put food on their plate and pay their bills
@ArningEchanoPH 3 жыл бұрын
I had to stop the video and check what's 300 miles in kilometers haha
@leordonez 3 жыл бұрын
1:11:34 is pure gold haha
@happily_imperfect_sketches 3 жыл бұрын
Love the podcast, but this one is poorly named - the name and the contrast to the content imply that introverts are inadequate and should just be extroverts. While it is good to stretch your boundaries, why can’t extroverts embrace just a little that some people don’t feel the same way about people and are different to them?
@PizzaGravy 3 жыл бұрын
when Kristian mentioned weezer, yes go off king
@JonJagsNee 3 жыл бұрын
YEAH KRISTIAN! PROUD OF YOU!
@TheCof6656 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always so happy seeing Marshal. He has such a positive face. Also, Kristian is german? Wow! I couldn't hear a thing, and I'm german. Or does he just live there?
@HenrikLarssonArt 3 жыл бұрын
- Ok, i hope i get through here, anyhow, you always talk about community as an important thing to grow as an artist etc. My problem is, and have been from early teen, i'm autistic and with that i have lived most of my life with social phobia and agoraphobia - What tools in addition to the obvious ones, whould you Marchall and Stan use, to grow as an artist without social interaction? Thank you for everything.
@AS-rk5vb 3 жыл бұрын
The neverending coffee, it's the Golden Goose.
@syverlauritz 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, because introverts are famously genuinely curious about people.
@aeoligarlic4024 2 жыл бұрын
Well i am curious about people, in a stalkerish way that is
@alphinart 3 жыл бұрын
Buddy Holly from the blue album! 🤘
@apeeatape 3 жыл бұрын
Magical! Thank you guys for that! Kristian is indeed a very wise man.
@goodmoe-jo9208 3 жыл бұрын
This one was a refreshing change of pace - not so much on art and technique, but everything to do with success! Thanks guys!
@richirare 3 жыл бұрын
Why is Repin's portrait of Mussorgsky attributed to Ben Young at 44:28?
@PrimoDirt 3 жыл бұрын
What was the book recommended? Something about "Investing"?
@hanjoe7646 3 жыл бұрын
Marhsall trying to get that Santa looks
@ranggonkingsbornemangaproj9506 2 жыл бұрын
marshal looked like santa that hooked on yoga and keto diet
@ciscoponch67 3 жыл бұрын
Finally it's that infamous Knight who says.......
@shapecarver 3 жыл бұрын
🚴♂️⚔
@0ia 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yea!!
@capritsuno2885 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting a Troll 2 reference
@yevmann 3 жыл бұрын
kristian is cool
@blessedandbiwithahintofmagic Жыл бұрын
The legendary Kristian, I finally get to see him, thanks, Marshall Vandriff!
@randominternetuser2 3 жыл бұрын
Is Kristian related to Leffen? Looks like him and sort of sounds like him too.
@joe4570 3 жыл бұрын
Ayy
@deebonash4487 3 жыл бұрын
The smash player?
@KiX-K4T13 3 жыл бұрын
This is proof, and Donald Glover and Bruce Lee said something similar, but "people set their own limits" is the gist. Those men either have no limits, or set the bar higher than they can reach. What does that mean? Well for instance, Kristian here just got in his Camry and drove across the country. Then he biked for roughly 300 miles in about 6 days. How did he do that? He didn't say "no, I'm good" or "oh I can't because of commitments". He never said no. That's the fine line between successful people and you. If you aren't where you want to be, then you need to look at what you're doing wrong. Are you really doing everything you can? I wasn't honest about a year ago. I was drawing, but not seriously. Now I'm putting money into lessons, I have incentive to work hard and I'm seeing vast improvements. Because I'm working a full time job, approx 12 hours of hard work at UPS, then I come home eat, shower and draw till I have to sleep. I get 4-6 hours of solid drawing done. Not much sleep, but I don't have time to screw around. Not anymore. I want the pain. I want the reward. Let's keep going. Come with me, damn it!
@hellomint4028 3 жыл бұрын
This type of mentality not only leads to success but also physical harm. Whats the point of improving when all ur efforts get thwarted aside by a jacked wrist/spine/neck? Make sure to get more sleep and take regular breaks.
@kullenberg 3 жыл бұрын
@@hellomint4028 yes, sacrificing sleep is directly counter productive when you are learning. Better to draw less if it means a full night's sleep.There's something very alluring with the grinding mindset that speaks to a lot of people but you need to be smart about hard work.
@KristianNeeTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for listening :) It sounds like you're on your own adventure! Keep it up, you'll start seeing results in no time
@fernandocamarillo3710 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never been this early. This podcast is very helpful and where’s Stan?
@Xenrys 3 жыл бұрын
Stan's on paternity leave.
@fernandocamarillo3710 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xenrys ah okay
@jeroen9637 3 жыл бұрын
51:20 Nope, any peanut butter with chocolate sprinkles on top is superior.
@PrimoDirt 3 жыл бұрын
Does Kristian Know more people or Gavin Rich?
@yvonneoy3124 3 жыл бұрын
He's an old soul
@hichamlaaberi9169 3 жыл бұрын
I just needed to be the first to comment, love from Morocco
@ellahopkinson 2 жыл бұрын
The most shocking fact of this whole podcast is that Americans do not have sticky toffee pudding :o
@slop5310 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I needed to hear. Kristian's take on things is very insightful.
@samdeacon7910 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I had to say out of all the draftsmen episodes this was the least helpful. Don't get me wrong I love the show and watch every episode. Just this one... I got nothing from. Personally
@zedzedlika8943 3 жыл бұрын
Stan must make an epic entrance when he comes back only if this comment is before he comes back
@royghosn18 3 жыл бұрын
Wasian?
@primeape6431 3 жыл бұрын
Is Charlie using cctv ? Just kidding luv u
@Vgladstone1 3 жыл бұрын
Did you realize there are gun ads on your video?
@bethsleepien9817 3 жыл бұрын
They don't decide or even get notified what ads will run. That's how all of youtube is. I pay 10$ per month and I see NO ads. For sure worth it to me.
@kullenberg 3 жыл бұрын
@@bethsleepien9817 or just use a free adblocker
@bethsleepien9817 3 жыл бұрын
@@kullenberg great idea, that works too!
@SPBHJ 3 жыл бұрын
Camry saquuuad
@mayukhdey8737 3 жыл бұрын
F
@maletu 2 ай бұрын
Nice, but networking from the perspective of a flaming extravert, I'd say.
@mikkelmelby 3 жыл бұрын
Kris is 25... im 25... he has 25 times better attitude than me!
@KristianNeeTV 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks! Nice stuff on your channel by the way, keep it up!
@mikkelmelby 3 жыл бұрын
@@KristianNeeTV Lol ty! Check out my IG Memelby for the up keeping :D Thanks alot for the episode, you should be more on camera with ur crazy questions and reflections! Karma and curiosity is my biggest takeaways...oh yeah, that booklist you mentioned should probably be read!
@flymachine 3 жыл бұрын
You totally had me until you started bad-mouthing Apple and criticizing Apple users as somehow having sold out, or as an example of how rich people can only have gotten their wealth or possessions by selling out!! I understand the concept but don't be so judgemental of those who have nice things, as an artist who struggled for the first 10-15 years of his career if not more (depends on what you define as 'struggled') I am proud of what I achieved and what it allowed me to buy and own most of which to better my art, I can not imagine being able to do what I do without my gadgets and tools. I am convinced your young age is showing here - a nieve outlook that the world should be rainbows and butterflies that typically changes with maturity. As an openly Christian person, you should consider what you're saying more carefully.
@flymachine 3 жыл бұрын
I was probably taken back by your comments but all in all it was great to 'meet' you and get to know the Proko team a bit more. Sorry if my comments were harsh but I felt it had to be said - perhaps you can clarify if I got it wrong.
@KristianNeeTV 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Darren, great to meet you. I think you have a fair point. I’d love to continue the conversation through email if you reach out to me on my site. Thanks
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